Urgente! LAD is leaving ISKCON!

6 years, 9 months ago by laksmana-agraja in Personal Sadhana Reports, Hot Topics

Hare Krishna
I'm about to leave ISKCON. But not Srila Prabhupada.
I clarify.

HpS - ASA -- Please, AGTSP. SP is the Founder and Acharya of ISKCON. No one shares or occupies that position, so to leave ISKCON means to leave Srila Prabhupada, no?


I am about to leave my relationship with the local administration, not with Srila Prabhupada and the Sankirtan movement of Lord Caitanya. Actually they already left me a long time ago.

It's 2.30am. My demons do not leave me alone. I have to kill them. The only way is to write about them and they will leave. I've already chanted five bad rounds and I can not continue. The thoughts harass me.

"wherever two or more meet in my name I will be there " I always liked that phrase of Jesus. I think ISKCON is becoming an esoteric entity. Wherever there are people trying to fulfill the seven purposes of ISKCON...Srila Prabhupada is there.

I'm not going to tell the administration what your job is. Actually nobody knows what they do. A few years ago, I commented with P. Mathures on the importance of communication between the community and the administration. Something basic. I told him that from the outside you can not see that they do much, you do not see a vision. May be they are doing many good things, They may have a vision. But nobody knows. So how are we going to work in cooperation? You only know about them when they communicate that they are going to punish someone . Anyway, I'm nobody to judge. I am sure they are making sincere efforts. But frankly I do not see a north, a perspective.


This is not an emotional reaction, just in case. I have been trying to do things since 2002. I have experienced many adverse situations in the institution and I have always kept doing things. Only the hospital took me away for a while. But even I could barely move, I came back. If you look up the word resilente in the dictionary ... there's my picture.


I'm fine. I get up early, I follow the principles, I chant my rounds the best I can, I go out on harinam from time to time, I distribute some books and prasadam, I read, I study. As soon as I finished the semester at university, I took this facilitation course with P. Baladeva from Argentina. I'm busy with my thesis project. In September I start the last semester. And then, next year I´ll start my doctorate. I am focused on that for Prabhupada and you. To improve my service in the education area. But I'm thinking more outward. There are many people who need a higher vision. It is surprising what one discovers and learns with outsiders. This is motivating me more to educate myself to help. In fact I already have a good relationship with several people. I give them books, mini japas, prasadam and we talk.
Association I do not lack. I relate to Srila Prabhupada and my sankirtan group, my students and teachers. Also the sangas vituales, etc. With the administration only a kind treatment. No more.

In the educational aspect, I have already spoken on numerous occasions to retake Peru as the examination center for Bhakti sastri, however they have other priorities, another vision, apparently. I'm not going to insist. There is a group that has finished the course, there are others who are waiting for previous groups and there is a new group that is starting. At first I thought about stopping all this, also because of my thesis, but it would not be fair to leave the devotees who are enthusiastic about getting educated. It would also be a bad precedent for the administration because I would have to say the reason why we would stop. I am thinking that a good temporary solution would be for the devotees to take the exam through an other examination  center that we can access through your generous advice. The details would fix here, how to get a Proctor, etc.
Thank you very much, gurudev for your mercy, for listening to me. I hope we can talk about this and other issues that concern me very soon.
ssLAD

HpS - ASA-  Hare Krsna. Your thoughts sound like my thoughts at 2.30AM after five bad rounds. Thank you for sharing them with us.   Now we need another letter at 10AM after 16 good rounds.

Good means the best we can do.

If we are following the four principles then we are sober enough to know if are making a good try to chant good rounds. That is ISKCON: The community of devotees who get up for Arati and Kirtana during Brahma-muhurta, chant good rounds, read and discuss SB amongst themselves and then after Prasada meet to plan their Sankirtan etc.

We keep ASA that way. You can join us with letters like this or on line and when we visit. When we die we can all go to Goloka.

Taking Sannyasa means to minimize our administrative activities in our insitutuional relation with ISKCON.

So, please write again after 16-good rounds for Srila Prabhupada. Thank you so much for your association!

Urgente

6 years, 9 months ago by parama karuna das in Personal Sadhana Reports

TlgaSP pamhr

Hare Krishna querido Gurudev, muchas gracias siempre por su asociacion.

tengo el deseo de saber como entender este problema el papa de una devota muy querida por mi es iniciado hace mas de 20 años y El toma cerveza alcohol y come pescado mariscos etc yo pienso q no es buen ejemplo para su familia porque ellos quieren ser devotos pero El las confunde. su esposa lo sigue porque asi El lo demanda, yo trato de ayudar a tener un buen estandar como devoto cada vez que los visito pero temo que el padre pelee conmigo se moleste y eso afecte la relacion que tengo con su familia. 

Si desea saber mas detalles para que ud sepa mas sobre como ayudarme as a diksa please let me know because its very important to me. You said to me that you can help me in many ways so please Gurudev help me in this way, thank you very much.

Your servant 

Parama karuna das

HpS - Jaya. AgtSP.    We will write simply so that translate.google.com can make a good translation. Thank you for the letter. We can ony help in limited ways. We are a small Jiva just like you, but we are trying to do something. For example, we maintain the full morning program on line, we work hard to answer mail in this Blog, we travel, we are pushing Ministry of Education in Latin America.

We don't have the ability to go into the details of many situations. Our basic advice is the advice that Chanakya Pandita gives: Victory comes from good advice and good advice comes from many counselors.

Then there is NOI 4 and 5 and 10 which give the basic and pretty extensive ideas about how to associate with different people. You have to apply these NOI principles to be happy and to be a good example for others. You can talk to the family based upon scripture, Prabhupada's words. If that does not work, then you can set a good example. Yad Yad acarati sresthas.

In the end everyone has free will, so the Papa, Mama, Hija... all have to make the decision that Arjuna made to give up the association of bad family members and take Krsna's association. It is dificult.

Many counselors.

We give general principles but you should talk with devotees, people, who know the family and then get advice from them how to proceed.   For example, real marriage is not marriage of two people. It marriage of two families.

Still Alive

6 years, 9 months ago by bhaktanicasio in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Gurudev,

Please accept my humble obeisances,

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,

Thank you so much Gurudev cause your vani is so clear, astonishing. The power of your spiritual realizations combined with your nature are an excellent combination. I think too, as you sometimes said, after your demise you will become very famous.

 

ASA - Try to die today.

 

Here we are in Sri Govardhan, remembering you everyday, while reading this pure nectar blog, or while worshiping deities at home and work. Sometimes is weird, when I wake you up in the picture, i think, Gurudev is already awaken.

I apologize for any inconvenient you had in your eye maybe because your visit to the eye clinic in MDP.

HpS - It may have been from the clinic. When I went to the clinic in Tennessee the nurse said that the furniture in the waiting area was probably contaminated from the people who can run for treatment.

 

I realize how imperfect our seva is.

We keep struggling to balance our material and spiritual life.

16R 4P ok, but is almost impossible to catch up my rounds debt. I noticed that main reason to not chant good rounds is lack of faith in the holy names, many times  there is something more important than japa. Big common mistake.

HpS - For all of us! Also, P'pada says that Maya says, "If you chant, I will kill you. You will die!", but we can think, "Thank you Mataji, that is our aspiration, die materially to awaken spiritually.".

I attend four days a week to Mangala Aratik. Living next to a temple make it much more easy.

Family is great, actually my main preaching focus is reestablish my new family, new wife and kids. Puting energy in trying to make everything works in a sane level. I feel blessed to have a good wife and good kids. They help me with my spiritual life.

HpS - I'm sure ourselves and all our readers hope you advance along these lines very well. Spiritual advancement of anyone will help me fulfill my own personal ambitions until my lotus like ambitions shine like the moon.

Work at Sama is O.K, and the project at Sri Govardhan is growing. Panca Tattva and Adi Yajña prabhus made their base here. So i have very good association.

Keep trying following this yoga,

At your service,

Nikunja Bihari das.

HpS - thank you for the report. There are five more letters. Let us look at them!

Vrisabhanu Das (desde Bolivia)

6 years, 9 months ago by Vrisabhanu-das in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krisna Gurumaharaja !!! my dear Gumumaharaja!

All glories to Srila Prabhupada !!! who has brought to the West the mercy of the Krishna Consciousness movement!

Gurumaharaja please accept my humble obeisances and dandavatas at your feet!

On Tuesdays we have a program in Cochabamba with some devotees (Prema Niketana, Mother Jambavati, Prabhu Sravananda, Prabhu Garbo). A Harinama program, although we will start distributing some books as well.

I also want to thank you especially for your mercy ... His mercy is the raft that keeps us alive ... A golden raft on the ocean of materialism ...

I will keep in communication.

Hare Krishna Gurumaharaja...

HpS - ASA - Ver nice.  Tale along flags and flyers for the Harinama also, no?

Hare Krsna Dear Gurudev : Status update

6 years, 9 months ago by Gopal C Biswas in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna Dear Gurudev,
Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
All glories to Guru parampara.

Gurudev, after leaving IBM i was struggling with material life that's why was not updating you. Because we know
spiritual mater is not for to discuss material life. i have your strength in the form of words / texts / sayings with me and
would overcome surely very soon.

Because of such struggling i found or gained depth of spiritual texts.

Spiritually going good...everyday new leanings. BG is with me always. BG is my life.

Gurudev, still don't have new job but trying my level best for to get a new job so that i can continue Seva / services
of Sri Sri Radha Kunja Bihari Ji in Pune. i love him very much (attached).

Yeah, still in Pune, Doing regular temple Seva ( Services ), regular BG classes (weekly twice). Associating
senior devotees. Spiritual schedule is as usual as it was earlier. There is no change on that part, instead engagements are
more now. Basics are - 4x16, reading, hearing going good.

i Read regularly your quotes and try to go deep, than i understand how you sacrificed your everything for Krsna. As i
go deep to know you more then my struggles looks tiny, which make me more strength and more focused.

Without you, i don't have my spiritual life. You are there in my every spiritual activity. Because of your strength
everything is happening in my life spiritually.

i can not pay you, Gurudev. Thank you so much Gurudev.

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

HpS - Thank you for the news. Sankirtan. Sankirtan.      If you are not married then you can just live in B'cari Ashrama and develop your Sankirtan with proper associates, teachers, partners and students. Take Sannyasa.

Working can be nice way to meet people for preaching also. Besides B'cari in Braja, what is his name, do you have any people do give you good counsel where you are staying?

Jai Jagannath

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

All glories to Guru Maharaj Hanumat Presaka Swami.

Please accept our humble obeisances at Your much-missed Lotus feet....

HpS - ASA - Lettuce feet.

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj,

We had a splendid Rath Yatra....and Purna Yatra.......so many pastimes to share...so many lovely moments.....thank You so much Guru Maharaj

We prepared bhoga for Their Lorships yet again ...on Purna Yatra...this time Subhadra Ma started showering Her love....the heavenly showers were a great delight....devotees pulled the cart all the while ....some with umbrellas in hand some without. Then....benevolent as always...the showers stopped ....the kirtan melted our hearts.....and all for Their Lordship's pleasure ..we pulled...pulled..pulled the cart...danced in gay abandon....

And as we headed back to the temple....Mother Subhadra insisted on a parikrama inside the temple....we loved every bit of it....Ma won't straight away get inside the altar area....last time on the Rath Yatra day ..that was on 14th July our Jagannath won't get inside ...we had to take Him round and round....He is so playful

This time we organized Rathyatra Festival programme for 9 days, every evening at the temple premises. It went great. We could manage to distribute 41transcendental books in 2 days....the first and the last day.Thank you Gurudev.

We are sending some pics. In one of the pics , the school where I got my high school education is seen,"Little Flower School", run by Roman Catholic Salesian sisters . Krishna kept us so close to His devotees ....for as far back as I could remember....

We hope to hear from Guru Maharaj soon.

We have started meetings for Janmastami preparations. We need Guru Maharaj's blessings to carry forth the celebrations.

Your ignorant servant,

Sarada Gaurangi DD

HpS - Thank you for the news. Manipur is the life of the world!!!   You can see from the DTC that we are traveling now and answering letters is different, so may be a little slower. We all have to understand our position in the Sankirtan movment. Which was better?                For M. Yasoda to save Krsna's milk on the stove or give Him her milk??   Prabhupada says that if we are sincere them Krsna, in the heart, will tell us which service comes first.

We are still struggling with this India calendar and our plans to visit India and the Northeast. Hope to have the resolution soon.