“Kirtanananda is now a completely Krishna Conscious person …”

Dear Guru Maharaja,


All glories to A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada! 🌸

Please accept my humble obeisances. 💌



“Kirtanananda is now a completely Krishna Conscious person …” from 5th September 1967, letter to Umapati


I have been thinking about this sentence.


In my understanding, completely means there is nothing more to fill. It is full. Fully. How then can a completely Krishna conscious person become not so? Offences, yes. But how can someone described as completely Krishna conscious, within a relatively short time, become a person acting in ways so contrary to Krishna consciousness?


I am not here thinking primarily about the changes Kirtanananda later made to the practice of Krishna consciousness. That is another topic. But in this connection I cannot help wondering about the abuses he later perpetrated and, if I may say so, the criminal activities he engaged in — all after having been described by Srila Prabhupada as a completely Krishna conscious person.


In a way, I am also not trying to figure out what Srila Prabhupada meant by this sentence. That, for me, would be impossible. To really know what he meant, I would have to be able to ask him.



What interests me is something else: Srila Prabhupada sometimes uses words in a very strong, even absolute, way. And here I find myself wondering whether the words are simply exaggerated.


If “completely Krishna conscious” can be said about a person who later behaves that way, then I naturally start to wonder about some of Srila Prabhupada's other expressions as well. Not all of them, certainly. But some.



This is perhaps the more uncomfortable part for me. If I take his words literally, some of them seem difficult to reconcile with what later happened. If I say that he was simply using strong/exageratted language, then I have to accept that at least some of his statements are not meant to be taken as precise or absolute descriptions.


And that makes me think about the way I listen to him.



I don't want to dismiss his words. At the same time, I don't want to force reality to fit the words when reality seems to contradict them. Somewhere between those two things I find myself having doubts — not about everything Srila Prabhupada said, but about some of his (very strong) expressions.



There is also a practical concern here. When someone in a spiritual institution is publicly described in such absolute terms, other people naturally take that seriously (or fanatically or dogmatically). It can affect how they see that person, how much they trust him, and what authority they give him. So perhaps there is something important to consider in how such expressions are used.



I am, right here, not trying to come to a conclusion about Srila Prabhupada here. I am simply trying to be honest about what this particular statement does to my understanding of his other statements.

… and what it actually means to be a Kṛṣṇa conscious person, especially a completely Kṛṣṇa conscious person.




In trying to serve, 

Namacarya Das anu das anu das


HpS - AgtSP. Running to airplane.


We take letters as less precise than books.


We understand that Prabhupada describes Brahman as complete. Paramatma as more complete and Bhagavan as most complete.


complete

completer

completely.


it is a character of his rhetoric.


maybe his community.


airplane.


hope more later.

Personal sadhana report

Hare Krishna,

Dandavat Pranam, H H Hanumat Presaka Swami Guru Maharaj.

Hamko Daya karo Dayanidhi, Kripa karo Kripasindh.

Please accept my humblen condolences unto Your Padma Charan that I have read Guruji Maharaj's reply of my previous letter. Guruji, as I am a human being and Grihastha I could not by heart most of the Slokas of Gita, Bhag. CC, BRS etc. but selected are kept in memory. After receiving this letter, I have re-read the Slokas of NOI-7, Gita 7.15, CC-2.22.31, BRS 1.4.15-16 again Gita 4.10.

In the Sadhu sanga which I have newly joined discuss the differences between Beidhi Bhakti and Raganuga Bhakti. We specially discussion CC Ramanuja Sangha, Narotama Sangha. In any gathering (Sad-Sangha) the narrative form of Manipuri Wari Liba, the Narrator or recitor and the listeners are all concentrated in the Radha Krishna Lilas then fell down and weap, tears in their eyes. There are so many expert narrators of Gita, Bhag. but I have never seen such type of Guru's, Bhaktas among ISKCON.

Specially in Manipuri Goudiya Beisnavs they are followers of Narotoma Das Goswami. There is a common belief is that Bheigyachandra (Bhagyachandra) a famous king of Manipur (Rajarshri) is the incarnation of Narotoma Das. So raga-nuga bhakti is the only process to serve Radha Krishna as Gopi Bhava in the Nitya Seva.

In the Narotoma Das Goswami 's Lalsa (prarthana) 11 "Hana Nityai bina bhai, Radha Krishna paite nai, Drir kari dhar Nityai Pai". Meaning without surrendering to Nityai no one will get Radha Krishna bhai so hold Nityai's feets.

Lastly, I could join the Sat Sanga by the wises of Guruji Maharaj means Krishna.

As Guruji read and teach Gita, Bhag., NOI, NOD etc. daily, so please remind me sometimes the valuable Slokas for personal recall.


Your fallen servant,

Yamunesvara Das 

Yamuna Manjari


HpS - Thank you. AgtSP. Paoho.


We are in middle of intense journey to Udupi, India.


Everyone in Sanga follows four principles?

SB 1.17.38? 😃


Maha Dev Das

6 hours ago by a.garcia0108 in Other

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj 

PAMHO AGTSP

Your God brother Maha Dev Das has passed away on Ekadasi vrata Sept 2026.

He was going to be 81 in November.

Prabhu was initiated 1975 in person by HDG

At Brooklyn temple day after Ratha Yartha with full yajna along side 75 other devotees. Some how they missed the recitation of his name, but no one noticed, except Prabhupada. So the next day Malcom was in the basement kitchen newly initiated trying to figure out what services he was to perform when it was requested he go immediately to Prabhupadas quarters.

Apon arrival he was informed, " your name is Maha Dev Das, it's a good name and with this name you will become Krishna conscious"

With this mercy he served for over 50 years in NY, STL, Dallas, San Diego, LA, Hawaii and many other Iskcon centers. His main service was cooking for the dieties but also was Kirtan leader for some time. 

The most notable portion was spent cooking and "collecting change in parking lots" during Harinam on the Radha Damador Bus. His final stop was here in Texas where many such undeserving devotees (as self) had the opportunity to serve during his dwindling past time. 

He always insisted "don't skip the Sanskrit or any words in the purport, Prabhupada worked very hard translating these books so you can become Krishna conscious and that's what your going to do".

He suffered a stroke on Prabhupada appearance day the held on for Ekadasi giving all devotees a chance to serve one last time. Haribol.


HpS - Super, Super, agtSP, thanks 😇 Angel.


Everyone please concentrate on picture of MDD and chant at least one Maha-mantra.

Thank you.

Sunday ASA Workshop - 27/09/2026


Hare Krishna, Maharaja

Dandavats, pranams, AGTSP!


For September 27th class, Nikunja Bihari Prabhu has graciously agreed to do seva of Spanish translation for Maharaja's class and reading notes of CC. 

Mitravinda mataji will help us with translation, if there are any problems with connection. 


We will start reading from Madhya Lila 20.218 to 20.250


The class will be at 7:30 am Houston and Peru time.


Thank you.


HpSwami - You, agtSP, can see from WhatsApp posts thar we are traveling, so our participation is unpredictable.

Thank you.

ASA Calendar 260919

6 days, 15 hours ago by hps in Calendar Development

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ASA - Calendar (Tom Brown, Secretary, Anjana Suta Academy)

ACRONYMS

  • ACT = ASA Camp Time. Eg if we Camped in Boise, Idaho, it will be Boise, Idaho time.
  • EP = Evening Program
  • FMP = Full Morning Program: Mangala arati or Morning Service, Kirtan, SB. Full Brahma-muhurta hearing and chanting. NoI 3.
  • GTM = GoToMeeting, https://meet.goto.com/382688053. Using your phone, +1 (571) 317-3122, Access code: 382-688-053
  • MOE = Ministry of Education


NEWS

The monkeys and bears would chatter amongst themselves as moved South looking for Sita. They would regroup and discussed the day's search results at the end of each day and they had to make a report to Sugriva and Sri Rama by the end of one month.

  1. Moment to Moment Breaking Sankirtan News: 1) ASA, anveska, WhatsApp Community; 2) ASA, asa chatter WhatsApp Group .
  2. End of Day Sankirtan Reports: www.monkeywarrior.com.
  3. Monthly Sankirtan Report: https://jayarama.us/news


REGULAR EVENTS

Daily:

  1. Japa Joe: 16-rounds before Mangala Arati, 1:30AM+ @ GTM
  2. Full Morning Program (FMP): Local Temple/Camp 4.30AM @GTM

Weekly:

~ASA Sunday Morning SB Workshop: HpS/Upendra Das, 7.30AM Houston Time @GTM


CALENDAR

August

Base Camp at Houston until September 2nd.

27[th] lord balarama appearance! Purnima, Kapi-dhvaja.

29/sa - Srinivasa Das and Venerable Family and Sanga. EP. Ashrama.


September


20/su - hps - anantesvara das Houston to Dallas.


23 sep - 21 oct: HpS/AED = Documentary Tour: AYURVEDA - The Asian Philosophy of Medicine in Tradition and Modernity (AyurPM).

(Dallas :> Madrid :> Udipi (India) :> Madrid, :> Dallas. Film a movie.

23 Dallas to Madrid. Arrive 24th, Iberia 14.25, visit anybody in Madrid and then go to NVM.

25th - Temple Program NVM and Zoom/live Meeting with [ttd] Jaramara, Yadu Swami, Purnamasi, Yugala, Govinda, Jayanta... about organize Ayurveda, ASA Sankirtan in Spain, etc. especially conference with Complutence or others when we return from Udipi;

HpSwami = Guinea pig for Modern Pancha karma (25th through 9th) and hope good discussions with Sripad Tan Mayi Goswami et al. Hire local camera man. HpS/Anantesvar and Ranchor Das.


26 MAD>BLR [10:30>4:50 [27th]]

...6.50>7:45PM [?] BRL>Udupi.


OCT

10th Udupi to BLR

12th BLR>MAD [6:50am>8:05pm]

10[sa] - Maitreya Ayurveda Ashrama to Bangaluru, arrive for noon Sandhya. Recovery from Pancha-karma and expect light meetings with gentle folk.

12[mo] - BangaLuRr to MADrid at 6.50AM - 8:05pm.

13, 14, 15 - New Vraja Mandala

16, 17 - Espiritu Santo

18, 19, 20 - Nanda Gram (Jara Mara Hari Das et al)

21 -Espiritu Santo

21[we] - Ekadasi. MAD>DAL [10:25>14:15]


26 October - 23 November = Houston (mexico) <:> Lima (chile).

26[mo] - Houston to Mexico. Aero Mexico 12.19am - 1.50pm

27/tue -mex to lima, aeromexico 10.50am - 5.50pm


Letting Jagad guru das, parasurama das x abhirama das, candramukhi, gandharva das work out when we go to chile from lima and when we return and what are the programs. Of course we will edit the work from India with Pablo.


November

21/mo - lim to mex 11pm - 4am

22/tu - 7am -9.38am mex to hou

REST

😃

2027

January

7-8th - Mexico - Lochana Das and Jiva Goswami festivals. Mexico


PROJECTS

  1. Science & Vedanta - Ayurveda Documentary
  2. Media Resource Center - Houston. hpS/Saranga will talk with Madan Gopal Das of North American Regional GBC [ttd]
  3. Sastri Education - MOE. Srinivas Das will work with RKDas and HpS about starting Bhakti-sarvabhauma Diploma with. Gauranga Darsana Das and Vidyapitha in January. Rest of this year, Bhakti vedanta Summative Examinations, TPP[noi] bh. ved and NOD bh. vai and bh. ved.
  4. ASA Encyclopedia and Web page etc. Working well with Srirama Krsna Das
  5. Kirtaniya Sada Harih.
  6. Srila Prabhupada came to us in a vision and made us an ISKCON GBC Secretary (of our Bead Bag).
  7. Wherever you go whom every you meet tell them about Krsna.

Ratha Yatra en Córdoba!🙏🏞️

Jaya Gurudeva!!! Please accept my humble obeisances 🙏💖 All glories To Srila Prabhupada!!


We spoke with the president of ISKCON Córdoba, and he told us that Prabhu Devakinandana Das is organizing a Ratha Yatra! We got in touch with him—our spiritual brother—and he said he plans to hold the festival in early December. We would so love for You to be there, Gurudeva! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

HpS/ASA - We all would like to be there by media if not physically. Our body will probably be back in Houston ISKCON by then!!

We are missing your association at Japa Joe; we are without internet these days.

ASA - You don't need internet to talk to JC!


We sent the material to the coordinator at Siglo 21 University. What wonderful material, Gurudeva.

Thank You very much.


Prabhu Devaki Nandana also mentioned to us that he has a space where You can stay.


And despite the imperfections of our home, we would also love to welcome You, Gurudeva.

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👣🪷🌹🌷🌻🌹🌷🌻

We eagerly hope to receive Krishna's mercy and to have Your association, Gurudeva!

Always trying to please him:

Rjpjdd



HpS - Thank you for the invitations, but we seem to be carried around by Krsna in a basket now. We are scheduled to be in Latin America from last week in October to last week in November.