continued discussion on devotee professions and reading groups

1 week ago by Kamagayatri in Hot Topics

Hare Krsna,

Please accept our most humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

We wanted to share some comments about todays morning discussion.

In regards to how devotees can preach within their profession as a doctor, psychologist, counselor, etc.. Our thoughts are within a therapeutic setting it is most conducive to follow some Vedic standards to help preserve the devotees' mind and purity.

For example, because therapy or having a medical visit with a patient is a confidential atmosphere, we suggest a female doctor or therapist to request female clients if possible.

This of course, is not always possible and especially with therapy, the plethora of what is going on in someones mind and desires comes out.

Another topic of interest is when is it appropriate to encourage the use of psycho-tropic medications and when is it not. We like to help clients come to the mode of goodness standard through the most natural means possible. Sometimes therapies such as REBT, CBT, DBT, solution focused therapy, Adlerian therapy can help clients understand how to best control their mind and desires. Also encouraging them to increase their spiritual coping skills such as prayer and studying their Bible or following their yoga routine can help, but if they want to take pharmaceuticals due to extreme distractibility or depression, should we encourage it?

HpS - Don't know? Guess it is O.K. in some circumstances. I read from ONE book that Srila Bh. Siddhanta Sarasvatis said, that Bang, Marijuana might bring someone to a higher consciousness by allowing them to see things from a non-concrete perspective, but it would definitely have bad side effects, so it should be abandoned as soon as possible and actually never be taken up if they could do Nama Japa, or meditate on the Virata Rupa etc. May be it was a bogus book.

If it could mean saving them from suicide, this seems to make sense.

HpS - Yes...

But otherwise, we are sometimes unsure. It seems if someone is a devotee, we discourage it. But what if someone is a devotee and may be suffering from a diagnosis such as bipolar disorder? There seemed to not be time this morning to talk about this subject, but we are curious about your thoughts on this subject.

HpS - Like we say it is a very detailed topic but yes in general it seems to be correct for certain people.

Another awesome topic brought up was engaging those in systematic study according to their level of motivation. I would say with our group due to possible time constraints, independent reading is at times hard for the group. So we encourage reading two texts independently. We also read together and review points of interest found in the texts we read independently and re-read these points again. Besides sharing our answers to the study questions and answering a general topic discussion question, we are mostly reading.

It seems this is a great way to avoid speculation and to have any group come together for the purpose of association and to improve our motivation to study and read, even if they lack a qualification or title such as Bhakti Vaibhava or Bhakti Sastri.

Devotees who are sincere and following devotee standards could lead the group and correct any philosophical questions or deviations new comers attending the group may bring up.

HpS - Yes.

It also is nice if there is at least 3 devotees such as Sudevi, Lalita, and I, and if we are not able to answer a question properly, we usually ask our husbands then share with the group the answer.

ASA - Chanakya Pandita said, one person is good for Puja and meditation, two people is good for study, three for music, four for travel and for making war, as many as you can get.

Let us know what you think of this standard? Newcomers and those interested in reading may have too low of motivation to participate in a formal Bhakti Sastri program, thus, a reading group like this can be the alternative. We are starting Light of the Bhagavat tonight!

ASA - Yes.... Seminars on one book one one theme eg. Rupa siksa, Chapter 19 of the Madhya lila are very useful and popular. Of course, you could relate them with a larger diploma, but that is not necessary.

Thank you Gurudeva!!

Your lowly servant,

Kamagayatri Dasi

ASA-HpS - Thank you. Life is very short, so keep some general priorities and then improvise. Live life one day at a time.

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3 weeks, 3 days ago by hps in Hot Topics, Calendar Development

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URGENT Wikipedia KDPC

3 weeks, 6 days ago by Carlos Rold in Hot Topics

Hare Krishna Maharaja

PAMHO

AGTSP

Please, first all, forgive me for all offenses I have been committed to you...

I'm writing to you to ask for your mercy, please Gurudeva... and because I've got an idea to resolve Wikipedia problem... the fact is that we need to publish another text (the wikipedia police just accept original writings exclusive to be published in that portal). So, my idea is that we can create that text. I can start writing questions about Professor Samaresh, like an interview, questions based on his biography in NIOS website. And, after, I can send that questions to you to be checked and maybe the same Professor or someone close to him could write the answers to that questions about life and legacy of Dr. Samaresh... and using this material we can create the new writing. I think this is the better choice we have to publish as soon as is possible. Please, give me another chance...

Your aspiring servant,

The Dumb Fallen One

HpS - Yes, just rewrite the text from the NIOS website and then we can add some things from his incredible retirement volume, Pracya-prajna-pradip. Thank you!


Call for Papers (UREGENT) Viplavah

1 month, 1 week ago by hps in Hot Topics

Hare Krsna!!

AGTSP! Paoho.

The next issue of Viplavah (the Journal of the ISKCON Ministry of Education) will be focusing on childhood education. M. Indira-sakhi Devi Dasi is the Managing Editor. It should be very nice, very well distributed, very important. Exact details are at https://iskconeducation.org/journal/ . Please submit articles about:

  • Theory of Childhood Education
  • Examples of schools, home schooling, Sunday schooling etc.
  • Resources in terms of study guides, literature, institutions,
  • Children's Art, Poetry.

Articles should not be more two pages but may give links to other articles, and should be submited by end of April (but (MAY) be squeezed in by the middle of May).

The next issue, around Janmastami, middle of August will be focusing on university, and academic level studies, tertiary education. Of course, this can be scholarly articles about primary education etc.

Articles can also be submitted in Spanish.

Donkey-1 (Divorcio II)

1 month, 1 week ago by kintsukuroi in Personal Sadhana Reports, Hot Topics

Hare Krsna Gurudeva

Por favor acepte mis reverencias

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada

Todas las Glorias a usted.

Oro para que su salud se encuentre bien. Gracias por su respuesta a mi carta anterior. No quise escribir antes porque sé que usted esta muy ocupado y no quiero ser una carga, discúlpeme por favor.

*** En una clase usted dijo que cuando se rompe un matrimonio y las personas se "re-casan", de cierta forma, los siguientes matrimonios son solo una continuación del primer matrimonio". ¿Cómo funciona esta situación sutil?

*** Por otro lado, usted nos sugirió hablar con 5 o 6 buenos devotos sobre el matrimonio. Mi esposo y yo recibimos consejos muy diferentes 😅 (A mí varios vaisnavas me dijeron "conserve el matrimonio" y a él le dijeron "separence") así que él eligió separación. Yo acate la decisión confiando en la sabiduría de los consejeros y me he convencido de que es lo mejor.

Parece que un consejero puede ser la salvación o la ruina ¿no? 🤔 Pienso que más importante que el consejo es ¡QUIÉN es el consejero!

Y me preguntaba, ¿Cuál es la responsabilidad que un consejero adquiere?

Desde mi pobre posición tengo algunas otras preguntas sobre el tema, si me lo permite, en un futuro escribiré con ellas.

Muchas gracias por sus instrucciones que son un bálsamo para mi corazón.

Su sirviente

Kintsukuroi

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Hare Krsna GurudevaPlease accept my obeisances

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

All glories to you.

I pray that your health is well.

Thank you for your response to my previous letter. I didn't want to write before because I know you're very busy and I don't want to be a burden, please excuse me.***

HpS - ASA --- We are like Llamas we can only carry so much. We don't feel happy with less or more.

In one class you said that when a marriage breaks up and people “remarry,” in a way, the following marriages are just a continuation of the first marriage. ”How does this subtle situation work?***

HpS - Oooof!! We do not remember ever saying this? Maybe mistranslation. From our understanding of reality, Vedic wisdom, there really is no divorce. It is like a grass plate. Once it breaks you cannot put it back together the same way. Once you are married you have changed your life, body. That will always be a part of your life. If there is another marriage, man takes a second wife, let us hope properly, or a girl does, then that is another marriage. Not a continuation of the first.

On the other hand, you suggested that we talk to 5 or 6 good devotees about marriage. My husband and I received very different advice 😅 (Several Vaisnavas told me to "keep the marriage" and he was told to "separate") so he chose separation. I followed the decision trusting in the wisdom of the advisors and I have convinced myself that it is the best.

It seems that a counselor can be salvation or ruin, right? 🤔 I think who is more important than the council is WHO is the counselor! And I was wondering, what is the responsibility that a counselor acquires?

From my poor position I have some other questions on the subject, if you allow me, in the future I will write with them. Thank you very much for your instructions that are a balm for my heart.

Your servant,

Kintsukuroi

HpS - Thank YOU. If different good devotees give different advice, and cannot arrive at a consensus, even after good discussions, then it seems that the solution to the problem is not clear. Absolutely unclear. We have free will and even Krsna does not know completely how we will use it. He can accomodate us, but especially in the spiritual world when we are under the influence of the Gopis we do things that Krsna never thought of! Then His Jnana shakti expands and understands. So His jnana shakti and hladini shakti are always competing, dancing.

Yes, we should talk with 5-6 GOOD devotees. First principle is their character, do they have practical knowledge of the scripture, sudra devotees also must have this and are they applying it.

Thank you. Basic principle is marry Krsna.

“KDPC” >URGENT< Hanumatpresaka Swami Zoom meeting - details for login

1 month, 2 weeks ago by Namacarya das in Hot Topics

Topic: Hanumatpresaka Swami: Kirtan - external and internal

Time: Apr 13, 2020 06:30 PM Europe/Zagreb


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The discourse will be in English.

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Your servant Namacarya Das

HpS - Thank you. In your next life you can be a manager for Vrnda Devi!!! Teach parrots to use Zoom.