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AGTSP paoho! Is O.K?

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NIOS MEETS NANTES

The door opened and out came a very congenial scholar. We had some trepidation because before we’ve met some powerful Jungian scholars but some have been chain smokers and others angry and arrogant. . .

Ooof!

Quite a relief. Then Professor Nantes took us across the Baroque lobby into his office, which was lined with books and beautiful artifacts to the ceiling. The fresh morning air of Buenos Aires came in through the window, cars hummed by as they went to work. There were ourselves, Hp Swami and three young students.

“Have you heard of E. T. Hall?”

“Have you read Jung in India?”

We have been trying to meet Dr. Bernardo Nantes, the founder of Fundacion Vocacion Humano, Dean of Universidad del Salvador, translator of C. G. Jung’s Redbook for three years ( and Shonu Shyamdasani of the University of London, co-founder of the Philemon Foundation, for at least seven years).

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In Dialectical Spiritualism, Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, Prabhupada, offers commentaries, on summaries, of the ideas of many, many Western philosophers. These summaries were presented by two of his educated students. The very last philosopher presented was Dr. C. G. Jung:

Prof. Howard Wheeler: That ends our session on Jung.

Srila Prabhupada: So far, he seems the most sensible!

If we take our NIOS work as building bridges between the classical worlds of the Orient and Occident, then Prabhupada’s comment along with Jung’s that follows is simply compelling.

“... if you go to other races, to India or China, for example, you discover that these people are conscious of things for which the psychoanalyst in our countries has to dig for months.”

“We Europeans are not the only people on the earth. We are just a peninsula of Asia, and on that continent there are old civilizations where people have trained their minds in introspective psychology for thousands of years, whereas we began with our psychology not even yesterday but only this morning. These people have an insight that is simply fabulous...”

Jung, C. G.; Analytical Psychology, Its Theory & Practice; Vintage Books, 1970, pages 48 & 74

Please join this work. If you are like us you had some little contact with Carl Jung during your undergraduate university studies. It is enough to pique interest but seemingly superficially presented. If you continue to be like us then you read the above quote in Dialectical Spiritualism and you are motivated but don’t know how to approach Prof. Jung and his followers in more depth. Of course books are the basis, so here is a suggested reading list. It’s interesting that everyone who I know who has read the books has also found them challenging for their personal spiritual development and mental hygiene. They can all be found at Amazon:

·      The Tavistock Lectures,

·      Memories, Dreams and Reflections (Auto-Biography),

·      The Kundalini Lectures.

·      Carl Jung and the Making of Modern Psychology – The Dream of a Science (Take it slowly. It is a look at the development of all of Western thought on psychology during Jung’s lifetime),

·      Introduction to the Redbook by Prof. Shonu Shamdasani (Buy the text only version of the Redbook)

·      . . .and now we are reading Jung in India.

Besides the books there are the people: Beverley Zabrieskii, Paticia Llosa, Maximilian Peralta. We have been able to meet so many, and then we attended a three day symposium on Art and the Creative Intelligence at U.C. Santa Barbara and were swimming in an ocean of youth, old age, various nations, intense scholarship, social awareness and compassion, artistic creativity, money.

Maybe you are not like us. Maybe you are coming from the other side of The Bridge. Our preferred lecture title has been: Science, Psyche and Spirituality, the Encounter of Prof. C. G. Jung with the Mysticism of Ancient India. As soon as you start talking about the mysticism, philosophy, religion, Yoga of ancient India you are diving into an ocean of traditions, practices, living examples.

If you want good food, go to Italy; romance, France; machines, Germany; but if you want Philosophy, India.

Sanskrit

George L. Harte, University of California

A Rapid Sanskrit Method

Motilal Banarsidass, Dehli, 1989

Preface

“It [sanskrita]is, like Chinese, Arabic, Greek and Latin, one of the few languages which has been a carrier of a culture over a long period of time. 

Thus, the variety of writings in it, and the quantity of those writings are staggering. An incomplete list of subjects treated in Sanskrit, usually with great prolixity, is as follows:

·      The four Vedas

·      The Brahmanas and Aranyakas

·      The Upanisads

·      Grammar

·      Epic, puranic, literature - Including 18 major puranas, 18 minor puranas, and hundred of sthalapuranas.

·      Works on Medicine

·      Logic

·      Astronomy & Astrology

·      Mathematics

·      Lawbooks

·      Architecture

·      Music…

On most of these subjects, there is an immense literature still extant. Indeed, a rough estimate of the works which will be listed in The New Catalogus Catalogorum yields a total of about 160,000 works… many so difficult that it would take years of study to properly understand them.…Sanskrit does have its share of great writers: Kalidasa ranks with the greatest poets, Panini is without question the greatest pre-modern grammarian, the Mahabharata ranks with the Iliad and the Odyssey, and the Bhagavata-purana is among the finest works of devotion every written, being equaled in my opinion only by other works in Indian languages.”

Of course, the Britannica article is a good place to start if you have no experience with India philosophy and mysticism (which I doubt): https://www.britannica.com/topic/Indian-philosophy.

Then if you have a little preliminary faith and can accept our advice we would recommend our own tradition of Bengali or Chaitanya Vaisnavism. It is centered around the above mentioned Bhagavata-purana and is based in tradition upon Srila Rupa Goswami’s 16^th century Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu of which Professor David Haberman, Indiana University, has produced an excellent translation. The Introduction to his translation is worth a million dollars, tracing the entire tradition from Bharata Muni, before Christ, on up to even modern times. At Amazon.com it clocks in at around $101 but maybe you can find it in your research library of even try to contact us. It is 752-pages so if you want a simpler path we would suggest:

·      Light of the Bhagavata.

·      The Nectar of Instruction,

·      The Teachings of Lord Caitanya.

These are all on line at www.vedabase.com and can be purchased in hard-copy at www.Krishna.com .

Are you interested in crossing the Bridge to buy and sell?  Are you interested in waking up.

An Englishman saw three people doing the same thing. He asked the first one:

“What are doing?”

The fellow answered, “Can’t you see, you damn fool! I’m laying bricks. Leave me alone”.

“Sorry, please forgive me.”

Then he asked the second man, who was doing the same thing:

“What are you doing?”

The man paused and replied, “I’m making money, take care of my family”.

English man thanked him and asked the third Johnny, “I say old chap, what are you doing?”, and the man looked up and said, “Oh, it’s very interesting. Today we are putting up the wall that goes behind the altar, and after a couple of days when it is set, the marble masons will come and hang the marble. My children are very small now, but when they are bigger I will bring them here and show them how I helped to build this great Cathedral!”.

Querido Gurumaharaja 

Por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias!

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada! 

Recién puedo escribir las preguntas respecto al color de vestido de Lalita Sakhi y las otras 7 grandes maestras .

Es verdad que el color azul del sari de Srimati Radharani no existe en el mundo material? 

HpS - No se. Claro su saree es una persona, no?

Sucede lo mismo con los colores de saris de las 8 grandes maestras? 

HpS - Pienso que si. Es como un reflejo de algo en una espejo. Hay distortion. Sus sarees son consiente, no?

Gracias por sus enseñanzas Gurumaharaja. 

Su eterna aspirante a sirviente 

Asta Sakhi dd 

HpS - Sri Radha, Sri Hari, Asta-sakhi, Yamuna!

Hare Krsna Dear Maharaja,

PAMHO, AGTSP!

All glories to the mission of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu!

I hope your spiritual energy will increase.

Here I present my homework about the color of the dress of the main gopis (Astasakhis).

Lalita devi, her dress is the color of the peacock feathers

Visaka devi, I only found that her dress is decorated with stars.

Campakalata, her dress is the color of the blue Jay bird.

Citra devi ,her dress is crystal color.

Tungavidya, her dress is yellow color that combines with white clothes.

Induleka, her dress is pomegranate flower color.

Rangadevi, her dress is red like jaba flower(hibiscus rojo jaba)

Sudevi, similar to her young sister Rangadevi, her dress is red jaba flower color.

Thank you very much for giving us this task, it was wonderful to read about the gopis, I discovered very interesting things about gopis and I was surprised by everything they know and the skills they have. are great yogis, great mystics, highly skilled in many areas.

Thank you very much for your mercy, today I appreciate the gopis much more..

Soon I will be sending my report letter. Sri Nrsimhadeva protect you.

Whit affecction and respect

ys Isvari dd

HpS - AGTSP. paoho. makes the heart happy to hear this, and ... They are all very, very humble. Not proud. Think that others are much better than They are, no?

Hare Krishna Maharsh. La presente carta es para rectificarme en cuanto a un mal entendido con mi autoridad de Isckon Lima pues Prabhu Yamuneshvara nunca me ha obligado ha asumir el cargo de Presidente de la Junta Legal por el contrario se tratade una falta de comunicacion de mi parte con mi autoridad administrativa debido a mis labores y ocupaciones y considero superado todo mal entendido con mi autoridad de Isckon Lima y atendiendo a su atenta respuesta anterior prosigo con mi servicio, su seguro eterno servidor. Visala Das.

HpS - Jaya! Pero puede ayudar en la administracion. TlgaSP. Esperamos mas noticias de Vd. a veces!! La conciencia de Krsna es llena de sorpresas.

Hk pamho querido Gurudeva empece a escribir por instrucción suya.

7 de Agosto del 2019.

Novela: Camino al Santo Dham

Purificación: ¡Perdí mi vuelo!

Después de un largo viaje estático, lleno de aventuras, de conocer gente muy amable, pasar hambre, frío, prestarme wifi de extraños para comunicarme, de correr para llegar a tiempo a migraciones y continuar sin parar, estoy en Brasil en el templo de Suzano, un lugar muy hermoso, vistas para postales, el templo es como una hacienda aquí la familia de Radha me acoge con mucho cariño, como un miembro más de la familia.

El día de mi partida camino al aeropuerto me sentí muy agradecida pues las personas me ayudaban con las maletas, el croquis de los devotos, era muy bueno, no había forma de perderse, Radha me mando una excelente lonchera, en metro llegué al imponente aeropuerto Guarulhos de Chile, felizmente un bus nos dejaban en el terminal correspondiente, a pesar de salir con anticipación había mucha cola, cuando toco mi turno casi al final el counter me explicó que faltaba un documento, que tenía treinta minutos para buscarlo, lo conseguí minutos después que counter cerró, la señal de fiwi fallaba por ratos, mi hermano espiritual Abhirama desde Perú, compadecido de mí desgracia, gestionaba en tiempo récord el documento, a pesar que rogué y supliqué, no me permitieron volar, y en un instante el sueño de todo una vida… se acababa en un instante, como si una torre de casinos cayera, así de frágil es la felicidad, en un momento estas riendo y al otro destrozado, posiblemente uno de los momentos más tristes de mi vida. Mi hermana Nitya Kishora que paso por una experiencia parecida me consoló explicándome que debía llorar y molestar a los counter al día Sgte. para sensibilizarlos y me permitieran volar. Pernocte en el aeropuerto, me puse a cantar, cante como 30 rondas, por un instante, pensé en regresar, dar lastima en mi país, pero no duro mucho, inmediatamente pensé que en tiempo record colectaría el pasaje, distribuyendo libros como en la maratón y volver rápido tal vez para kartika, pensaba. Preguntando terminé, en la línea de vuelos Etiopian Airlian, y una simpática señorita me explicó, que recién el miércoles podría viajar presentando todos los documentos. Después un joven vio mis papeles y me explicó que como perdí el vuelo, pagaría una multa y que me presentara al día Sgte. Una luz de esperanza brillaba sobre mi otra vez, así que regresé al templo, me alegré de no optar por quedarme un día más en el aeropuerto, tener la asociación de los devotos en el sadhana y programa estático de la mañana, rogar a la deidad a la hora de Govinda para que me permita viajar, me fortalecieron la fe. Me vestí con sari, lleve prasadham, y bendiciones para esas personas que actuaron como la energía ilusoria, probando mi determinación en mi resolución de llegar al Santo Dham, para que sean compasivas conmigo. En la clase se habló de Bali maharajá, como en un instante Krsna lo despoja de toda su opulencia, creo que en un momento pensé que todo era fácil, me enorgullecí de mi buena fortuna por poder ir al santo dham, tal vez pensé que lo merecía, las pruebas sutiles se inician. Pero por la misericordia de Nityananda, del Guru, y Prabhupada podemos ir al Santo Dham, para avanzar espiritualmente. Las deidades del templo tanto la murthi de Prabhupada y las deidades parece que me dieran bendiciones para ir con bien, curiosamente las deidades de Jaganantha son las mismas de hace 9 años atrás, cuando por primera vez, fui a Brasil para un encuentro de educación y recuerdo que atendimos a las deidades con mi hermana espiritual Candra mukhi. Fue muy bueno saber que detrás de este viaje están las bendiciones de muchas personas, que me ayudaron desde antes de la maratón, cabe mencionar que todo esto es la misericordia de Krsna, al fin su plan coincide con el mío, Él me pone esta prueba, que lo único que ha hecho es acrecentar mi deseo por ir a Vrndavana y Mayapur. Por favor, Gurudeva deme sus bendiciones, sin ellas estamos perdidos.

Su hija que lo adora:

Yugala Kishora Dasi

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Hk pamho dear Gurudeva I began to write by his instruction.

August 7, 2019.

Novel: Road to Saint Dham

Purification: I lost my flight!

After a long static journey, full of adventures, meeting very kind people, going hungry, cold, lending me Wi-Fi from strangers to communicate, running to arrive on time to migrations and continuing without stopping, I am in Brazil at the temple of Suzano , a very beautiful place, seen for postcards, the temple is like a farm here Radha's family welcomes me with much affection, as a member of the family.

On the day of my departure on the way to the airport I felt very grateful because people helped me with my bags, the sketch of the devotees, was very good, there was no way to get lost, Radha sent me an excellent lunchbox, by subway I arrived at the imposing airport Guarulhos de Chile, happily a bus left us at the corresponding terminal, despite leaving in advance there was a lot of queue, when it was my turn almost at the end the counter explained that a document was missing, that I had thirty minutes to look for it, I got it minutes After the counter closed, the fiwi signal failed at times, my spiritual brother Abhirama from Peru, sorry for my misfortune, managed the document in record time, although I begged and begged, they did not allow me to fly, and in an instant the dream of a lifetime ... it was over in an instant, as if a tower of casinos fell, this is how fragile happiness is, in one moment you are laughing and the other shattered, possibly one d and the saddest moments of my life. My sister Nitya Kishora who went through a similar experience comforted me explaining that I should cry and annoy the counter Sgte day. to sensitize them and allow me to fly. Overnight at the airport, I began to sing, sing like 30 rounds, for an instant, I thought about returning, hurting in my country, but not long, I immediately thought that in record time I would collect the passage, distributing books like in the marathon and come back fast maybe for kartika, I thought. Asking I ended up, on the Etiopian Airlian flight line, and a nice lady explained to me, that only on Wednesday I could travel presenting all the documents. Then a young man saw my papers and explained to me that since I lost the flight, I would pay a fine and that he would introduce me to Sgte. A light of hope shone on me again, so I returned to the temple, I was glad not to choose to stay one more day at the airport, to have the association of devotees in the sadhana and static program in the morning, to pray to the deity at the time of Govinda to allow me to travel, they strengthened my faith. I dressed in sari, wear prasadham, and blessings for those people who acted as the illusory energy, proving my determination in my resolve to reach the Holy Dham, to be compassionate to me. In the class there was talk of Bali maharaja, as in an instant Krsna strips him of all his opulence, I think that in a moment I thought everything was easy, I took pride in my good fortune for being able to go to the holy dham, maybe I thought that Deserved, subtle tests begin. But by the mercy of Nityananda, the Guru, and Prabhupada we can go to the Holy Dham, to advance spiritually. The deities of the temple both the Murthi of Prabhupada and the deities seem to give me blessings to go with good, curiously the deities of Jaganantha are the same as 9 years ago, when for the first time, I went to Brazil for an education meeting and I remember that we attended to the deities with my spiritual sister Candra Mukhi. It was very good to know that behind this trip are the blessings of many people, who helped me from before the marathon, it is worth mentioning that all this is Krsna's mercy, at last his plan coincides with mine, He puts me this test The only thing he has done is to increase my desire to go to Vrndavana and Mayapur. Please, Gurudeva give me your blessings, without them we are lost.

His daughter who loves him:

Yugala Kishora Dasi

Haré Krishna mi guru maharsh. La razón de esta carta es para informarle que la junta de lima y en especial yamuneshvsra prabhu me están designando como presidente de la junta legal pese a mi disconformidad y porque no deseo ningun cargo esta situación irregular le pongo en su conocimiento para que me autoriza a no participar en la administración pues no es mi voluntad y se puede perjudicar mi vida espiritual suplico su pronta respuesta. Su sirviente eterno. Visala das.

HpS - ASA - - TlgSP. Quien otro puede hacerlo? Quiénes va a ser vice-presidente et al? Si hay otro, bien, deja tomar el puesto, pero si no hay otro tómalo pero con acuerdo de seis buen devotos, escrito, cual va a ser sus deberes y solamente para un año.

Hmmm? O. K.?