Authority in ISKCON: Between the Collective GBC and Zonal Management

1 day, 8 hours ago by bhaktanicasio in Special Category A

Dear Gurudeva,


All glories to Srila Prabhupada,


Please accept my humble obeisances.


I have a concern regarding the authority structure bequeathed to us by our Founder-Acharya. Srila Prabhupada established the GBC (Governing Body Commission) as the ultimate managing authority, based on the instruction that his own godbrothers disobeyed after the departure of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur.


HpS - AgtSP. I would say that it may not have been only based upon the instruction that Srila Bh. Siddhanta gave at that one time but efforts he made many other times, that culminated thus at the time of his departure, and SP working base upon own intelligent inspiration from Guru and Krsna.


As explained in the Chaitanya-charitamrita (Adi-lila 12.8, purport), those who disobey the Guru’s order to work collectively become asara, or "useless."

However, in current practice, we observe that in many regions, the "Zonal GBC" role falls upon a single individual. This presents two challenges that I would like to consult with you:

  1. Burden and Purity: Being a single person (who often is not an uttama-adhikari like Srila Prabhupada), they may become overburdened with service or commit errors in judgment due to the lack of an immediate counterbalance.
  2. Distance from Local Reality: Although Regional Governing Bodies (RGB) exist, sometimes the GBC is not fully immersed in what is happening "on the ground" or on the daily battlefield, which makes it difficult to make precise decisions for very specific, local problems.

My question is: How should we view and assist this authority when it seems to approach the "Zonal Acharya" model that caused so many problems in the 1980s? How can we, the local devotees, collaborate so that Prabhupada's will for "collective management" remains alive and functional, preventing the zonal leader from standing alone with such a heavy responsibility?

Thank you very much for your reflections and realizations on this matter.


Your servant,

Nikunja Bihari Das.


HpS - Your question seems like a big, broad one. I think there will be a lot of significant variety within the individual GBC people.

I think that a wife in ISKCON has a similar problem in relating to her husband... and children their parents.


In Kali yuga VAD does not work so well. So, we try to have Kirtan relationships with people and on that basis develop the VAD, management relations.

O.K?


We are struggling to be Sannyasis. The GBC is struggling to be GBC Secretaries.

Help everyone, GBC people et al, in their Mangala arati Kirtan, daily street Kirtan, etc. Then deal with our Management relations kind of like any other organization such as city, business, professional and national management in Argentina.



La Autoridad en ISKCON: Entre el GBC Colectivo y la Gestión Zonal


Querido Gurudeva,


Todas las glorias sean a Srila Prabhupada,


Por favor acepte mis humildes reverencias.

Tengo una inquietud respecto a la estructura de autoridad que nos legó nuestro Fundador-Acharya. Srila Prabhupada estableció el GBC (Governing Body Commission) como la máxima autoridad administrativa, basándose en la instrucción que sus propios hermanos espirituales desobedecieron tras la partida de Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. Como se explica en el Chaitanya-charitamrita (Adi-lila 12.8, significado), quien desobedece la orden del Guru de trabajar en conjunto se vuelve un asara o "inútil".

Sin embargo, en la práctica actual, observamos que en muchas regiones el "GBC Zonal" recae sobre una sola persona. Esto presenta dos desafíos que me gustaría consultar con usted:

 1. La carga y la pureza: Al ser una sola persona (quien a menudo no es un uttama-adhikari como Srila Prabhupada), puede sobrecargarse de servicio o cometer errores de juicio por falta de un contrapeso inmediato.

 2. La distancia de la realidad local: Aunque existen los Consejos Regionales (RGB), a veces el GBC no está plenamente empapado de lo que sucede "en el terreno" o en el campo de batalla diario, lo que dificulta la toma de decisiones precisas para problemas muy específicos.

Mi pregunta es: ¿Cómo debemos ver y ayudar a esta autoridad cuando parece acercarse al modelo de "Acharya Zonal" que tantos problemas causó en la década de los 80? ¿Cómo podemos los devotos locales colaborar para que la voluntad de Prabhupada de una "gestión colectiva" se mantenga viva y funcional, evitando que el líder zonal se quede solo ante tanta responsabilidad?

Muchas gracias por sus reflexiones y realizaciones al respecto.


Su sirviente,

Nikunja Bihari Das.





Finding the balance between personal nature and surrender to the Guru

1 day, 8 hours ago by bhaktanicasio in Special Category A

Dear Gurudeva, 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

Please accept my humble obeisances, 


In our recent conversations regarding the working group at the farm, you kept insisting on asking me: “What is it that you want to do?”. This question has led me to reflect deeply on the balance of spiritual life.


My doubt is the following: What is the correct balance between the service one desires to offer based on one's own motivation, kama (based on gunas and karma) and the service that the spiritual master specifically requires from us?


I understand that acting according to my own inclinations or "passions" to occupy them in Krishna's service seems to be closer to the platform of karma-yoga (offering the results of our nature). On the other hand, strictly doing what the master needs—even if it is not what naturally attracts us—seems to be closer to atmanivedanam or saranagati (full surrender to the mission).


How can we find the perfect balance between these two aspects according to our state of consciousness and spiritual advancement? How can we know when we should follow our inclinations to avoid frustration, and when we should sacrifice them for the direct needs of the Guru's mission?


Thank you for always being there for us, for your endless patience, and for being our constant shelter.


Your servant,

Nikunja Bihari Das.


HpS - Some thoughts, agtSP, that come in response to you questions are that the guru desires us to act with our utmost sincerity on our actual platform. If we are on Karma-misra Bhakti Yoga or Jnana-misra Bhakti yoga or Dhyama misra bhakti yoga, then he will instruct us to act there.

Of course, he gives us a view of higher platforms so that we can have direction, perspective, for the lower platform and motivation for progress.

In some aspects there is only Radha Krsna, no?

Yet, They are expanded only as enhancements to that solitary relationship, not as compromise to the inferior attachments of the Jivas, no?


Gurus, according to their development, will advise us what to do. Sampradaya acharya like Srila Prabhupada. Kanistha, madhyama, uttama adhikari siksa gurus. Prabhupada in his books. Krsna in our heart. Our sincerity and contemplation.

NoI says that devotional service is not a matter of sentimental speculation nor imagined ecstacy, but practical activity in the foreground of spiritual life.

Thank you!


El equilibrio entre la naturaleza personal y la rendición al Guru


Querido Gurudeva,

Todas las glorias sean para Srila Prabhupada,

Por favor acepte mis humildes reverencias.

En nuestras recientes conversaciones sobre el grupo de trabajo en la finca, usted insistía en preguntarme: “¿Qué es lo que tú quieres hacer?”. Esta pregunta me ha llevado a reflexionar profundamente sobre el balance en la vida espiritual.

Mi duda es la siguiente: ¿Cuál es el equilibrio correcto entre el servicio que uno desea ofrecer según su propia motivación, kama (basada en sus gunas y karma) y el servicio que el maestro espiritual requiere específicamente de nosotros?

Entiendo que actuar según mis propias inclinaciones o "pasiones" para ocuparlas en el servicio de Krishna parece estar más cerca de la plataforma del karma-yoga (ofrecer los resultados de nuestra naturaleza). Por otro lado, hacer estrictamente lo que el maestro necesita, incluso si no es lo que nos atrae naturalmente, parece acercarse más al atmanivedanam o sharanagati (rendición total a la misión).

¿Cómo podemos encontrar el balance perfecto entre estos dos aspectos según nuestro estado de conciencia y avance espiritual? ¿Cómo saber cuándo debemos seguir nuestras inclinaciones para no frustrarnos y cuándo debemos sacrificarlas por la necesidad directa de la misión del Guru?


Gracias por estar siempre ahí para nosotros, por su paciencia y por ser nuestro refugio constante.

Su sirviente,

Nikunja Bihari Das.





Sriman Caru Das Leaves His Body

3 weeks ago by hps in Special Category A

"Hare Krishna Maharaja, please kindly accept my most humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada, all glories to your good self for your own years of devotional service, and all glories to all the devotees of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. 


I am in great pain and sorrow because of the passing of Caru prabhu.  


Yls, CCD 🙏"


HpS - ASA -- It, agtSP, has disturbed us also. We are concerned about the unexpected nature of his disappearance. Unlinke M. Pariksit and Yuddhisthira he was not able to put his socio-physio-psycho connections in order.

So, we are chanting with him in mind, hoping that it helps him adjust all of these on the subtle platform.

Gauranga!!!

3 weeks, 2 days ago by Gadai in Special Category A

Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!


Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja, por favor reciba mis respetuosas reverencias.


En la carta anterior usted me responde lo siguiente:


HpS- Jaya. Un mes, agtSP, y tres semanas para responder esta carta. Disculpen la demora. Mucha presión durante esta gira de tres meses: EE. UU. [Nashville + Dallas], España [India], Latinoamérica [Chile, Perú, México].


Súper, súper resultados.


Si no respondemos a las publicaciones importantes del blog, intente enviar otra con la palabra "URGENTE" en el campo del título.

Todos sus mensajes son urgentes.


No tengo mensajes urgentes, por lo pronto 🙏


¿Cuáles son las noticias ahora?


Por lo pronto ninguna noticia, todo sigue igual.


¿Aún ganas el templo de Madre Laksmirani Devi Dasi?


No entendí la pregunta o quizás el robot no lo traduce bien. 😊


HpS - I also do not understand. 🙂


¿Dónde está?


Estoy en la ciudad de Huancayo - Perú.


¿Algún Sankirtana?


Por lo pronto no estoy haciendo Sankirtan con los libros de Srila Prabhupada, porque tengo la columna vertebral lastimada, justo cerca a la parte de la cintura. En la actualidad mí Sankirtan es hacer servicio en el templo de Madre Laksmirani, el templo se llama "Nimai Nitai" y está en el centro de la ciudad de Huancayo.


HPS/ASA - We saw that Jayananda Das was in a wheel chair from the progress of his cancer and they gave him charge of the Gift Shop in the Temple in New York, but it was on the third floor above the restaurant and nobody went there. Yet, he started putting signs down next to the restaurant. Offered free gifts for people to come and visit, and very soon he had people coming, books, cassettes of music, everything selling.

He was such a challenge, that whatever our body or situation is, we can always find a way to get results if we make the endeavor, no?

Super.

Bueno Guru Maharaja, me despido y que el Señor Nrsimha lo proteja siempre.


Hare Krsna.


Gadai Gauranga Das



Hare Krsna!!

1 month, 2 weeks ago by Gadai in Special Category A

¡¡¡Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!


Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja, por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias, espero que haya tenido un bonito Vyasa-puja 🙏


En la carta anterior usted me responde lo siguiente:


HpSwami-AgtSP.

Es una buena pregunta para reflexionar hasta el momento de la muerte.

Sí, hay muchas formalidades en ISKCON como institución.

Si es práctico tomarlo formalmente en ISKCON, eso sería genial.

En caso contrario, uno podría tomar votos formales delante de amigos devotos y goswamis para abandonar las relaciones físicas y sociales con el sexo opuesto.


Utilice una bolsa de cuentas de color azafrán.


La verdad es que no quiero tener ese tipo de compromisos, conozco mi naturaleza y prefiero no tomar una posición que no me corresponde.🙏


Todo tiene su etapa, su momento, ahora todo es diferente.🙏


Dentro de la institución, con nuestros amigos, en nuestro contacto directo con Srila Prabhupada, podemos, debemos, encontrar maneras de avanzar en las reglas y regulaciones del Bhakti yoga.

💪💪💪🐒


En muchos sentidos, creo que muchos blogueros te toman como inspiración.


Por ahora estoy en el templo de madre Laksmirani, le ayudo en los programas de los sábados y en las ofrendas que se cocina todos los días por las mañanas.


Se le ofrecen alimentos en las mañanas a Sus Señorías Sri Sri Gaura Nitai; Sri Jagannath, Baladeva y Subhadra y Sri Laksmi Narasimha.


Mis padres dejaron el cuerpo hace un año. Siempre los recuerdo y canto algunas rondas por ellos.


Bueno Guru Maharaja, me despido y que el Señor Nrsimha lo proteja siempre.

Hare Krishna.


Gadai Gauranga Das



HpS- Jaya. ONe month, agtSP, and three weeks to answer this letter. Sorry so slow. So much pressure during this three month tour: USA [Nashville + Dallas], Espana [India], Latin America [Chile, Peru, Mexico].


Super, Super resultados.


If we are not responding to important Blog posts, then try sending another with 'URGENT' in the Title Field.

All of your posts are urgent.

What is the news now?

Still win temple of Madre Laksmirani Devi Dasi?

Where is it?

Any Sankirtana?

Guru Maharaja

1 month, 2 weeks ago by jagatbd in Special Category A

Hare krishna Guru Maharaja, How have you been? I just wanted to offer my obeisances at your lotus feet. I hope your health keeps good, How is Hanuman and little Prahlad? I hadn´t written in years, I am very sorry, I´ve been away from kc for a while. My children Baladeva and Shubadra still live with me, I keep single, I guess being the same sudra person. Problably soon I will get back to my planet. I have had some dreams from you and me and deities as well, nice dreams.

When you are away godbrothers and godsisters, they keep far away as if one was a demon, so strange that in this quarrel age it happens no? I hope my letter doesn´t annoy you.


your fallen servant,

Jagat Bandhu Jagannatha Swami Dasa


HpS/ASA - 😁

Hare Krishna.

What ages are B & Subhadra?

You still teaching?


Only been one year, no?


Health is, agtSP, good for 78-years old body.

In Santiago.

20th go to Lima for one week.

Then Mexico City for weekend and 30th to Houston.


Teaching?