Hare Krishna From Down Under

Dear Your Holiness Hanumat Presaka Swami Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances (PAMHO).

All glories to Srila Prabhupada (AGTSP).

I’m writing to thank you because I now know who created those acronyms (pamho & agtsp) and that the word “acronym” is itself in fact an acronym.

I have listened to a few of your classes in the past, mainly in person when we’ve seen you in Vrindavan, Mayapur and Australia and of course been impressed with your humility, devotion, compassion and wit but I’m starting to realise now that my lack of qualification has only let me scratch the surface in understanding your position. I once visited a top university in Melbourne with you and you spoke to the professors and heads of faculty about sankhya philosophy (I think that was the topic), but myself, at the time not even having an academic education above 10th grade, could not see how much you understand these people. I could not appreciate your depth of knowledge from the academic world and therefor I could not appreciate the effort you have gone to in order to offer Krishna to them. Now that I have had some little university education for the past few years I have been moved to a whole new level by your knowledge, realisation and ability to connect dots for Krishna.  

My little study of the sciences and philosophy over the past 3 years, through course work and hobby, has exposed me more and more to the ideas developed in the West since the time of the Greeks until now. Growing up in ISKCON has given me a rather backward or even top down progression. I was exposed to, and studied, a little of the Vedic view first (through Gurukula in early years and then temple ashram as a young adult) and then developed a curiosity in the Western view later. Any devotee who learns from mainstream institutions will know that there is a major neglect and even “un-coolness” to considering anything that’s not empirical and therefore the wisdom from the East remains hidden to most people. Also, as you mention in your talks, theology is the only field that a scholar is not respected for if he actually practices his particular “expertise”. Unfortunately, with the wisdom of the East kept in quarantine by subtle forces of Maya, any theistically inclined persons looking for a formal education must first “run the gauntlet” of pop-science-gladiators, with their goal of bashing you into capitalistic conformity. And, if they do make it through with their faith in tact, they must hide it or they will risk losing facilities. At times faith can be challenged in these environments, especially with little vaisnava association. Different complex forms of illusion creep in. Even if faith is not challenged, a devotee with academic propensities can still get caught up in the pursuit of economic development, which can be detrimental to the engagement in sankirtan and thereby generates the risk of making less spiritual advancement in this life then he would if these propensities were addressed in a devotional education and social setting.  I hear you inviting people into this devotional education and social setting in your talks.

Some devotees choose to just preach their knowledge of Bhagavata philosophy and don’t concern themselves with any other ideas or views and that is fine and effective in some circles but you Sir (Maharaja) have an uncanny ability to align various concepts with the teachings of Krishna, even those seemingly very distant from Bhagavata philosophy. I started on Soundcloud, working through your “ISKCON Education” type talks and “Psychology and the Sacred”, then the whole Sri Isopanisad seminars from Mayapur Institute and once I could not find anymore on Soundcloud I moved onto the ISKCON Desire Tree stock of your lectures and have worked my way through at least 15 lectures and this is all in the past two weeks! I just can’t get enough. I was fortunate enough to get the job of painting one house of a vaisnava and Krishna’s timing is perfect as I’ve already booked tickets to India for my family. The great thing about house painting is one can spend the day listening to whatever he pleases.

ASA - And breathing toxic paint fumes too, no!?

Your talks are so satisfying and have such a profound awakening affect on me that I can now hardly bare listening to mainstream podcasts on science and philosophy while I’m working. It is all available in your talks! You have this incredible ability to lift the curtain on both the philosophies of the Bhagavata and the West to reveal Krishna in a way that invites the audience to understand that ultimately everything is Krishna, that we are the best at a unique service to Krishna and Krishna needs to receive it from us, and that Krishna Consciousness truly is a choice with growth sanctioned by mercy.

We are very grateful for your ongoing service to Srila Prabhupada as it pulls us closer to Krishna and we are very much looking forward to seeing you in India Jan-Feb 2017.

Aspiring to be your shiksha disciple,

Dhruvananda Das

Disciple of  HH Devamrita Swami

Son of Atul Krishna Prabhu

Husband of your disciple Dhanesvari Devi Dasi

Father of Suryani Dayalu O’Shea

HpS - Eiii, Mate,  'aven't you got a dog too yet!?    [eg. Master of Bowser, the Dog].       We are a little doubtful about the full perfection of our Science and the Vedas work, but certainly hope that Dudes like you can give us some perspective on the topic.  The presentation we just did in Chennai and the Oxford Center program was a  big challenge. We learned a lot and got some very good feedback. We hope to see you soon.

Our India number is +91 96 4343 1330 !!

Reporte nro 1

Hare Krishna Gurudeva,

Please accept my humble obeisances,

All glories to Srila Prabhupada,

First week passed and we couldn't achieve our vrata, I was traveling, what a challenge to keep on with sadhana while traveling. I offer my respectful obeisances to you for being able to accomplish such a difficult deed.

We finished our 16 rounds every day, and we will give it a try again this week.

27th january i have my first meeting in the university to coordinate everything.

Tomorrow we go out with our local FFl program 45 lts watermelon juice and 900 sweets. The dean of med school called us and told us that his wife wants to participate in the program and that we should cooperate!   Krishna's Magic, I was looking to make contact with university and now it comes to us.

I feel sorry cause you are not coming again to Mar del Plata. And make me think that we are not really doing anything useful for your Sankirtan. At the same time I'm glad you can rest from so much travel. I hope some day we can establish something similar to psychology and the sacred.

We are determined to accomplish our vrata. 

We need it.

See you in the blog next sunday, Dear Gurudeva,

Your fool fallen servant,

Nikunja Bihari das.

HpS - Prabhupada said that if we keep trying to achieve a good goal we will be successful.    We want to come to Argentina, MDP, at least we may be able to see each other in Sanntiago in June, July, no???  Bring photos, power-point show with music, chorus.   More watermellon.

Nimsar report urgent

Hare Krsna BELOVED GURUDEVA

AGTSP

AGTU

pamho

We read your dtc s the letters from the blog.. we feel inspired

On Wednesday we have a meeting with Lad. Ykd isvari dd and myself

The board has just one change

President: LAD

Treasurer: Abhinanda d

Secretary: cmdd

We review our document of regulations. And discuss different ideas

And we are trying to develop as a group more and more. This Thursday we have an online meeting to continue discussing important things

We beg for your blessings to work with intelligence for the pleasure of Srila Prabhupada and U.

Personally I want that U give us some insights in order to know how to work as a group and accept that every single soul is different but we can work as "friends" and develop more and more.

Thank U Gurudeva

See U in June

Trying to be useful

Secretary _ NIMSAR

HpS - ASA -  Thank you, so much. We have many question, but if we have these correspondences every two weeks then we can solve them.

Remember that we suggested that there always be a member of the National Council or a Temple authority present at the NIMSAR meetings to give us good relation with the community.

Can you do that? It seems essential at this point.

ASA GBC Secretary Contacted!

8 years, 9 months ago by hps in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports
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From: tamohara <tamoh....com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: HpSwami - Anjana Suta Academy

Hare Krishna,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Sorry, I somehow missed your message. I am always happy to hear from you. Please forgive my oversight and try again!

your servant,

Tamohara das

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Jaya!

AgtSP!     Paoho.....

We also called a few times. 352 283-5844 is correct?    It's just not worth a lick being devotees here in Nashville without see'n your face evry now and again.

 

BI-ANNUAL GBC REPORT FOR ASA [ANJANA SUTA ACADEMY]

1. This is for public display.

 

2. The 'Anjana Suta Academy' has been having regular work with it's NIOS branch based in Nashville. We co-sponsored a BIG program with the National Library of Peru. You can see a 1-minute and 10-minute clip of the event at http://www.youtube.com/ with the keyword search of "Psychology and the Sacred 2016". We are being PUSHED by 5-local universities, psychology associations et al to do it again in June. In 2018 we want to involve all the resources of ISKCON in a big event there on Art and the Sacred.

 

3. Local Programs in Murfreesboro and Nashville are going on with Murari devotees. Kala-kanta Das came and NGD and HpS spent and entire day looking very seriously at possible houses for a permanent Gainseville type center near the Murfreesboro Campus. I think that maybe Gadi and the devotees could move to some land closer to Nashvilee and we could combine a NIOS campus with the Kirtan Valley.

 

4. In Peru we have a branch of ASA known as Nimsar. There are some conflicts with some parts of the local administration, but we are working very hard to get a good educational program, even including Bhakti vaibhava, going, and all is in full co-operation with Jayapataka Swami.

 

5. The Ministry of Education work, Primary, Pre and High School, University programs are all developing. Fourth North American Symposium on Education with ISKCON will be held in Seattle this year from about 15th -18th June. Will it fit into your Calendar?

 

6. Gadi Das published a nice book about his perspectives on Sankirtan. Bhakta Daniel, who had been staying there for some time and then stayed with us said that Murari was no longer an ISKCON property that it the Board of Directors had been changed. I said that probably the Officers had been changed but that the Directors, Trustees, were probably still ISKCON. What is the truth about this?

I'll send a copy of this report to Gadi Ji.

I was Hansadutta's Zonal Legal Officer etc. etc. and I panic about these things because I see they can have such catastrophic results. We got sucked into the whole problem with Kesava Swami and the Board of Directors in Miami because of mistakes they mafe there.

 

There are lot more details but that is our Bi-annual Report for the 'Anjana Suta Academy', one of the foremost branches of ISKCON: www.jayarama.us.

 

Will you be in our neck of the woods soon?

Will we see you at the SGGS in Mayapura?

Thank you everyone.

H. P. Swami

4th Report about III Latin America Congress on Education with ISKCON

Dear Guru Maharaja,

According our last personal meeting at Houston, we are waiting confirm your tickets to Brazil but I'm realizing plus the VISA is more difficult for you.

In my last chat with Nrishananda last week, he agreed that we can charge 5% money extra to the devotees whose will attend the program to help speakers like you with some expenses like VISA an like that. Is part of the plan, help even with the fl tickets if is possible, however the problem is we don't know how much will be everything.

For example, Param Padam told me that their ticker will be 400 USD each. But we need to calculate the general cost of everyone to know how much exactatly we should cover.

Now, the whole capacity is 170 SPOTS onsite, divided in 157 devotees + 12 guests speakers in Chales and staff in somewhere else. I think Nrisimhananda is considering brazilian staff outside this numbers.

So, the point is if 157 devotees attend the whole program (not only weekend festival but two nights more also, with more profound workshops and talks) we could have US 1.442 for help our speakers to come. In that case we could help you also with this amazing prices that you should pay. Other thing that I can looking for some sponsor from Brazil. 

With this 5% extra, the final cost to every night to the all devotees will be:

Chale: 1 Night  > 70.77 USD   - 5 nights >  353.85 USD > 9 spots available

Suite: 1 Night > 52.29 USD > - 5 nights >  261.45 USD > 27 spots available

Ashrams: 1 Night > 30.76 USD - 5 nights >  153.85 USD > 41 spots available

Camping: 1 Night  > 30.76 USD - 5 nights >  153.85 USD > 80 spots available

If we make a good marketing campaing, we could do it, in Brazil there are a lot of devotees. So, for this reason your confirmation is so important for us.

On the other hand, Param Padam is contacting Aravinda and Dhanvantari Swami, asking their topics to presente and Rama Keli prabhu told me the last week that Hanuman Prabhu is considering make the BBT Latin America meeting the same dates to attend this program.

This the news guru maharaj, 

Always available to recieve the comments.

Hare Krishna.

HpS - Hare Krsna!   AGTSP  paoho.    As we mentioned in the previous post, after our very stimulating meeting in Houston, we went home and tried to adjust the entire calendar and then find an exact ticket. Everyway we looked at it the trip to Brazil would mean reducing our eliminating our trip to the West Coast USA. Then the cost was enormous. It is not just the Visa. That would be $320 if we go to Argentina also, but the ticket itself is going to be $1500!   Ooof, and Nandananda Das has disappeared as an Organizer, no?  It seems too much for you to do alone. Also, no one else has been in contact with us about the program.

I very much want to hear the opinion of others, but for the reasons above we can't think now that we can come physically during these dates or that the program could be organized in a sane fashion. We have our tickets to Peru, Bolivia (Ecuador), Chile in June and July. We would like very much to join this kind of work in those places at those times.

Again, our opinion is based upon the above information and experiences. If there is more to learn then we are very much eager to listen, adjust our plans.

In any case lets go ahead!!!

Satuday/Boise Classes

Hare Krsna, Anantarupa Das,

Thank you for YOUR letter. I hope we hear from The Upendra, Srinivasa, Sundara-radhika Dasa, Dasi, and now also the Srivasa Pt. Das. 

Respected Maharaja:

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Thank you for your email and thoughts.

Srimad Bhagavatam, thanks to your wishes, is again being read and discussed in the temple Monday through Friday from 8:15 AM to 9 AM (which is within the timeframe done in all the temples). . . .We are on Ch.2 sloka 11 of Canto 1 - one sloka every day.

A. HpS - It is for Temples with big local community, no?  But Hawaii E-sanga for example is 6.30AM. Physical participation may be just like two people or so in the Temple, but on-line they have as many as 40-devotees and good participation in discussion, many of whom attend the Sunday programs etc.

Can we do that?  Basically I would require regular participation by any of my 'disciples' in the local classes, Sanga. That is the way we have designed the Bhakti-vaibhava program from San Jose also. Correct Srivasa pt. Das?    First Sanga, then Systems, last Content.

So, we are jumping right in, taking the program Radha-banki-bihari are arranging and reading SB 1.2.11 etc. with our little comments below.

If regular class is at 8.15AM, after Srngara Arati, not before. Then devotees like Upendra, Sinivasa might be able to participate by listening on the way to work. Record the classes for later listening. Have a summary Sanga on the weekend, Saturday morning. This last idea sounds the most practical and immediate. What time would it be possible for you to lead, join, a community class on Saturday morning???   Is it possible??    Then we could join physically.  Make it a priority before going to Home Depot. During the week we could read the same verses and then have review and discussion on Saturday.

This is my life and soul.

Disussing Srimad Bhagavatam in the association of devotees.

B. A second topic, maybe even more delightful, is our possible visit to Boise. We were trying to balance all of these engagements in India, South America etc. and finally we just could not fit in the 3rd Annual Symposium on Education with ISKCON in Brazil in February, and have sufficient time for West Coast. So, we are passing on Brazil and then we can be sitting on our Asana in Nashville from 15 Feb to 15 May. Then ...  Boise, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver.. ? .   15th-18th June is supposed to be the 4th Annual Education Symposium, in Seattle.  Of course, we want to focus all this traveling on these educational programs and Sanga..

Anybody have any suggestions for dates. Gotta fix the Calendar soon.  We were thinking Maybe taking the Amtrac up the coast together for part or all of that stretch. It is very refreshing.

C. Finally, Bhaktivedanta Study. Sriman Vaisesika Das is ready and waiting to start that program. I agree. ISKCON already has many devotees who know Prabhupada's books to the standard he suggested fort Bhakti-vedanta. So, we should get an organized standard and show the opulence of Srila Prabhupada's disciples, men and women, to the world.

Of course, this is a discussion in progress, about the standard, Boise students et al. Yet specifically Vaisesika Das, our Sankirtan leader agreed to give four master's classes as part of his diploma requirements. We already have three. They have been wonderful. Preaching Strategies in Cantos 1-4. We need to hear Canto 5-6! One more lecture from Vaisesika Das!

Also, all the candidates need to clean up their 100-pages of essays, and Vais Prabhu was probably going to get his four lectures transcribed and edit them. They would be wonderful for publication.

When, if, all this is done we can look at starting the Bh.Vedanta study, no, Sr. Pt Das?

It is 10-weeks until Gaura-purnima, 12 March. You think it could start before then SPD? I think Vais. wants to, but I don't think his essays will be ready AND you, many of us, want to work on the structure of this next session, the standard, the evaluations and record keeping.

SPD, did you print the Tests for all the students?

We are attaching our notes for Vais's last lecture.

We are attaching our personal investigation on Verses Cited in the NOI up to Text Six.

T h a n k   you  all for your association. . .   This project is central for us. ISKCON.

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SB 1.2.11-15 NOTES

SB 1.2.11
Is very important verse. For BhVai it should be memorized.

This whole Second Chapter is so basic, quoted again and again, maybe because it is the first time (and complete) the SB is presented.

Why are they called Hiranyagarbhas?
“Therefore, there is a duality of inferior and superior energy, whereas in the absolute realm both the knower and the known are of the same superior energy”, but this is Mayavada philosophy?
 

SB 1.2.12

“And the third-class transcendentalists are those who have barely realized the spiritual focus of the Absolute Person.” . . . So even Brahman realization requires some personal realization?

“…which is fixed by the aural reception of the Vedānta-śruti”… Hear SB = Hearing Vedanta sutra?

“one has to make definite progress from the position of material devotional service to the second-class devotional position. In the second-class position, the devotee can see four principles in the devotional line,” . . . the same is presented in NOI almost word for word the same..

Usually we think of third class devotee as smoking marijuana etc, but here and other placed it is emphasized that Kanistha adhikari can be in the external mode of goodness also.

1.2.13
saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam” … Important Sanskrit, no?

1.2.14
“Without these principles of life, no one can exist. . . . Especially in modern society, all activities are more or less dependent on hearing and glorifying.”

1.2.15
“granthi – knot” … Must untie the knot.

Karma overcoated with devotional service is called karma-yoga. Similarly, empirical knowledge overcoated with devotional service is called jñāna-yoga.“ … In all cases it is Yoga, so we must learn to distinguish differnent types of Yoga.

“They have chalked out ways for all classes of men in terms of the different castes and orders of life in pursuance of the teachings of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and similar other authoritative scriptures.” … So, SB class is for practical application.