Letters to the editor

Hare Krishna ! 

Por Favor Acepte mis reverencias y que todas las Glorias Sean  a Srila Prabhupada !!

Todas las Glorias Sean Para ud Guru Maharaj

HpS - ASA -- 7% de las glorias a nosotros! (?)

Hare Krishna, Gurudev acepte mis reverencias eternamente , puse urgente en el titulo ya que no quiero estar ocupado en adorar las Silas sin su aprobacion y en respuesta a sus preguntas es que si, estoy ocupado como jefe de pujari aqui en Chile hace 7 meses (fijo todos los dias de lunes a lunes todos los turnos ) viviendo en el templo y mi esposa  Nitya Siddha tambien ,y antes de eso osea de enero que me dio Diksa a junio estuve ocupado todos los findes de semana completo . y ahora estoy ocupado todos los dias todos los turnos , aun no hemos podido lograr que los devotos se inspiren en querer mantener un servicio de adoracion directo a la deidad .. asique me estoy levantando todos los dias a mangalarati sin importar a que hora me acueste desp de tantos servicios , en particular esta semana que paso fue todo un desafio ya que empezo maraton  y llegaron muchos devotos de otras partes a participar y aun estava haciendo informes del bbt esperando a que la autoridad acepte devuelta el serivicio de bbt y busque alguien quien continue con eso para poder estar ocupado completamente en la adoracion y que cuando este adorando no golpeen la puerta del pujari por libros ... etc ....asique todos estos dias pasados me estuve acostando realmente muy tarde ya que terminaba el turno en la tarde y me sentava en la oficina de bbt a atender y resolver los pedidos hasta las 00:00hs ,  01:00hs  y aun asi por misericordia de los devotos, seguimos levantandonos a mangalarati sin importar situacion alguna asiq nos mantenemos ocupado en adorar las Saligram Silas , Giri Govardhana , Nrsmha Prahlad .y las principales Paramakaruna Sri Sri Gaura Nitay , Gracias a ud que me permitio nacer por segunda vez ,Las fotos que le mande es de algunos de los  dias que adoro . mis rondas no son antes de mangalarati pero terminando para poder mantenernos en servicio . y asi poder continuar ocupados en adorar a Sri Sri Guru y Gauranga !

Por otro lado cuando entre como unico pujari fue por que al anterior el GbC ( Srla Virabahu ) pidio que deberia salir inmediatamente por algunas situaciones que surgieron , y no habiendo nadie con mi esposa decidimos tomar el servicio y desafio hasta enero desde junio que empezamos (completo) junto con la peticion de expulsion del pujari se pidio comunicar a Su Santidad Jaya Pataka Maharaj para que quiten las Silas del Altar . ya que la adoracion inapropiada podria ser "la causa" por la cual los pujaris no se mantenian en el tiempo .,,,, eso fue en julio y recien hace unas semanas  el GBC pidio Fotos de las Silas ,... Las cual mande   . y su respuesta fue  que se les complicaba tomar una decision viendolas  tan bien atendidas.. Nuestra intencion es poder estar correctamente ocupados en ese servicio entendiendo que sin su aprobacion para poder continuar con ese serivcio en el hogar,,   no vale de nada estar haciendolo ,  solo por su misericordia y aprobacion nosotros podremos ejecutar servicio apropíadamente.

Agradecido por tanta misericordia para con esta alma 

Su Sirviente Garga-acarya Das

HpS - Hare Krsna,
Es un poco difícil para nosotros entender cosas en español. También, a menudo, la gente no escribe cosas con puntuación adecuada, por lo que las ideas no siempre son claras.
Como entendemos la última cabeza pujari fue eliminado y usted y su buena esposa se hizo cargo.
Tienes el trabajo de BBT también.
Por supuesto, queremos trabajar con el GBC y la administración de ISKCON.
Usted está preguntando acerca de comenzar a adorar a su propio Saligrama-silas, no sólo a los Silas en el altar del Templo.
Mi intuición es que es un poco temprano para que empieces a adorar a tu propio Silas, pero puedes tomarlos, incluirlos con la adoración del Templo de Silas y si no hay ningún problema, entonces dentro del próximo año podrías tomarlos Como su familia Silas. Si no, entonces usted podría estar buscando un buen hogar para ellos. Es una responsabilidad tan grande como tener hijos.
Creo que es bueno seguir adelante de esa manera y luego después de un año hacer el compromiso de toda la vida.

O.K.?

O.K.  Please all engage us all eternally the in Sankirtan of Srila Prabhupada.

From: Manonatha Dasa (ACBSP) 
To: Hanumat Presak Swami
Cc: cakori; Guru Prasad Swami
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Regarding Cakori Radha

Respected Vaisnavas
This is my last message on this topic. 

I feel satisfied that she said that the sexual implication of the word "aprovecharse" was a speculation and that never anything inappropriate happened in any way, shape or form. This was my main concern.

I will also publish these conversations for my own protection.

I may agree or disagree on few things said, but it doesn't matter to me much. Even old age it's a good time to learn lessons about trusting.

If someone believes that it's necessary to use this story can do it but without my participation.

Hare Krishna

Manonatha Dasa (ACBSP)

Hare Krsna Maharaj, Pamho, AgtSP
You are the one person, because of which, are hanging on Hare Krsna movement.  Hence your opinion matters to us most.

HpS - Not, to joke, you are a very, very central example for us of determination. You face such challenges, but you don't give up.

We wrote broken record as subject, as this has been in our mind for many years>>

 We hear from many people that Srila Prabhupada's sister was married to strange man. She was elevated devotee, but still she decided to cook meat for him. can you please give your comments on that ?  -- we are asking you because we keep hearing from you save yourself first.. this action of her seems to be contrary to that.

similarly, when its other way around, for man , is has been adviced to us by three counsellors to follow illicit sex.  one of them even say he follows it, he is second intiated devotee and  his wife not interesed in ultimate goal of life. we have heard in one public/recorded seminar  of chowpatty, illicit sex is unfavorable but not having it mainer times disastorous for family life.

one more female authority (a big shot) illicit sex
" My understanding of the "bottom line" of illicit sex in grhastha life is: only with husband/wife without chemical or mechanical means to avoid pregnancy normal sexual relations (right organ with the right object, as the Buddhists say) with an attitude of offering to Krsna one's body, one's emotional relationship with the spouse and any children that result accepting physical and emotional pleasure as the Lord's mercy to be a brahmacari-grhastha one would also limit sex to the days in the month when the woman is fertile"

we have some how convinced now, that there are some or may be many, first/ second intiated devotees of almost all  intiating gurus they indulge in illicit sex (not for procreation),  it happens even when both husband and wife are intiated....


seeing both cases one of no meat eating and no illicit sex. whats your opinion on family life and four rules.. esp when once you said four rules are not themselves spiritual.

HpS - AGTSP!   This is bizaare. Just five minutes ago I got a letter from a devotee in Germany who has been under weight for over a year. His doctor told him that he may die if he continues vegetarian diet. He asked me about eating some meat to put on weight:

We wrote: [10:48:26 AM] hp swami: It is a difficult question. In one Purport Prabhupada says that if the cows are being given enough grains, but at not producing milk and people are starving, then it is lamentable, but you CAN kill the cows to feed starving people.
[10:48:45 AM] hp swami: He doesn't say that you MUST kill the cows.
[10:51:19 AM] hp swami: So, one aspect is that you can make the choice, and tell your doctor, that I have decided that I will not kill a cow (pig, sheep (chicken(fish))) so that I can live. I would rather let my life go than kill them. Of course, I have written what I understand is the hierarchy above of how much suffering is being inflicted: child>cow> sheep/pig> chicken> fish> plants
[10:52:49 AM] hp swami: As far as I know there is just as much protein in beans, milk; and oils in those sources. It may be more expensive because there is subsidy to the meat industry, but it is there. Are you getting lots of cheese and strong beans every day?
[10:53:49 AM] hp swami: Meat is less digestible as far as I know also.

We have never heard Prabhupada say that Pisima cooked chicken or goat for her husband. Sometimes a Muslim cook is hired or the whole process goes on outside the house.

In over 10,000 pages of written communication from Prabhupada in his most intimate condition, we have read Prabhupada repeatedly say that all of his initiated disciples must chant 16-nice rounds daily and follow the four principles strictly. It does not mean that he won't try to be Vartmana pradarsika guru for you, get you back, or, for the first time, onto the path, but he is not your Diksa-guru until you are followning. We "can hardly expect him to come back for us if we don't sincerely follow his orders given at the time of iniation". Orders that he knows we can follow eventually and Krsna will help.

These are quotes.

In the beginning Marijuana may help you realize the mental platform above the gross physical platform, but later it is poison. In the beginning, giving unatural sex, receiving, may be a show of love, like giving excess candy to children who demand it, and then suffer diabetes attack.

Even as an institution, there is direct GBC statement with, as far as I know, not one dissenting vote, that anything other than sex between married couple during wife's time of conception, after chanting. 50-rounds is conducted in the mode of ignorance and there will stupid results, in larger or lesser degree.

If you engage a woman or let her engage in illicit sex, just to relieve tension in the body, pleasure, then she will be FORCED to experience just the same amount of pain, and you will her here screaming, moaning in just as much PAIN as there was PLEASURE.

This world is duality.

..and she will NOT be able to pull her mind away from the pain. The Bhagavatam says that one who engages women in illicit sex is a torturer of women.

]]-But it will save the marriage.

That is not a "marriage". It is an agreement between a prostitute and her client. [[Let us call it a cortesan and her lover.]]

]]-But it will save the children.

From what? If the wife leaves and gets a long-term 'contract' with a "lover", "marriage", then in the end the children will know, KNOW, K N O W, the message my father and mother gave me. My father upheld the standard and he's happy. My Mom was a little bit too weak, so she divorced, found a like minded Dude. They fornicate 3.2 times/week (USA standard 1965), fight, but keep it to that, and now at 65 my mom smokes, drinks a little, shares the house with my father and watches television.

That is how we understand the situation.

100% it is your sincerity and your relation with Krsna. If that is there then maybe you have to break 25,000 regulative principles (for Brahmanas) and become a bacteria and copulate with your entire body, but Krsna will be closer to you, the amoeba, than an insincere Brahmana (like us).

O.K????   Thank you so much for your news of so called Senior devotees who are  . . .

<img alt="devil" height="23" src="http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/devil_smile.png" title="devil" width="23" /> .ASA.

Hare Krsna,
Esteemed Manonatha Das, Cakori-radha DD Prabhus,
Whatever is sent us in these matters is public amongst our friends. I've just made that decision as a Sannyasi. Here is Cakori's reponse to us and I hope she sent a copy to you, Manonatha Das. Details beyond this I don't know. The question would be, did she take money that went to the Developer, then take 2%, and contribute ton of work, and then the current relation is between you, Manonatha Das and the Developer.

O.K.   Her comment is in the letter below and I will publish in our Blog also so everyone has had there say in this.

See you all  in Delhi 1st January maybe.

HpS - ASA
 

From: Carolina Madera <cakori@...
To: HpS
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: Regarding Cakori Radha
 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Dear Guru Maharaja
Manonath Maharaja
Please accept my obeisances,
I have very little knowledge about what is been talk in vrindavan, since I had to shift to Delhi due to work.
I had a nervous beack down a comple of months ago due to external factors  (not eating well, long travels and little sleep) since then my husband has taken my phone and media usage.
First I would like to make clear that to the only person I have talk about any of anything to do with manonath maharaja is a disciple of gurupasad swami, Parameshvari devi dasi, not even my husband! she is a nice person. I, under my knowledge have never said anything about sexual exploitations. The only coment I ever maid was that, I thought I should not have so much contact with a maharaja. Specially when my intelligence told me that to. Though I explained her that I did felt ofended by the statement that she said maharaja said that I took advantage of maharaja financially.
I did a couple of sales (3) in vrindavan to different people and I charge 2% of the value of the property including 40.000 of inscription to everyone . Beyond the 40.000 of inscription owner has to pay the rest.
So I sold the property and got a really good price for him + extra square meters,    Usually the properties are ready, so I offer myself to help finish the 2 flats, because they where not finished. And  I did help, more than 2 months (almost 3) supervising. Going 4 days a week with money of my pocket. I bought the tiles doors, change the doors when they broke, (do to some weather conditions) The only things I left without making was to put the AC and installing the fan (that I bought),  but the flats where  ready, finished . At this point I start working in delhi from 8 to 8 and I couldn't and didn't wanted to continued. I return parameshari 3.000 that I got left from the 18.000 that maharaja ledt for expenses.  But I fail to give her the 7 fans. Due to multiple reasons, one of them an internal fight I had with her.
So the fana are in the house of a devotee in vrindavan, Where I left also a cople of things.
I don't have parameshvari's phone number, and I don't want to talk with her also. So I left it for tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow and it never came.
I offer Maharaja through parameshvari to do the inscription of the property with a devotee, Vrindavan das. But according to her, maharaja didn't  wanted to, which I understand.
So honestly I do understand the upsetting of Maharaja. But also I think that I did help plenty and more that what i was supposed to do. To be treated like that for 15.000
I have never acted wrongly,  only when I broke principles with my husband before we where married, but I talk about that with my Guru Maharaja. I do procrastinate things, and it is a big fault that affects other.
So if there is any more information I can help with. But I'm unable to go to vrindavan untill February, because I work all day and take care of my children beside, my husband is outside the country.
And to be Honest Guru Maharaja I did say something to parameshvari in confidential and I told her that it was guhyam akhyati pricchati, but I never said anything bad about maharaja, I only talk about me, my point of view and my perspective about how much a woman should associate with a Guru, and how carefully we have to be. To don't commit ofenses. And i ask her to start helping me finish his apartment, like bringing things upstairs and installing  the AC and fans. So to be clear, I charge him 2% of the value of the property for selling it to him. I did not charge for 3 months of supervision, or buying furniture or mayerials nor the transportation. Maharaja gave me 18.000 for expenses for the apartments and I gave 3.000 to parameshvari that I had left. Remaining is 15.000 that I used to buy the fans + the car I used. I have them in vrindavaan, but I can not give them untill February, but I can transfer the money to parameshvari. 
I hope that I have made this more clear.
Hare Krsna.

AGTSP and YOU!!!

Hare Krsna dear Gurudeva... PAMHO

Here is the report ...

Fisrt, i have to say that back to usual sadhana will take some time but we are very enthusiastic and positive...

Since the last letter i planned many things but at the end i had to keep what i really can do ... So until this last EKADASI I have been chanting 6 rounds a day, reading Srimad Bhagavatam and worshipping deities... To be honest it took a lot of effort at the beginning ....  Aristotle said: "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." So we are trying to be fixed.

HpS - ASA -  The Black Witch is NOT happy with you!

Our plan is to increase 2 rounds each ekadasi... so  this Saturday (Nov 26th) we started chanting 8 rounds... Of course this is just a plan... i have to see how things go in order to not fail again... I want to keep things sane and back to 16 rounds but naturally...

thanks a lot for all your support and patience...

your servant

Patraka Das

HpS -- Raktak Das has gone, next Patraka Das, then Citraka Das?   If we are trying to follow Srila Prabhupada's instruction: 16-nice rounds, 4-principles strictly etc...   Then he is trying to catch hold of our hands and pull us out of this Samsara.
Do you want to be rich?
Do you want fame and friends?
But in Vrndavana all these things see their highest, pure end.

We are struggling just like you. Most likely you are more sincere than we are.  Sadhana leads to Karma-yoga. You can get your secular Karma connected to Krsna!   Zoooooom!!!!!

Paoho...

Hare Krishna Maharaj

PAMHO! AGTSP!

So much for my proof reading skills. It was supposed to read: 'I just have to work out who the bride is going to be'.

Another punchline massacred.

Thanks for the encouraging words nonetheless Maharaj. I will give my best to Adi P.

Hari-haribol.

Your servant,

Janardan-hari das. 

HpS - Know any good lawyer jokes?