stuck at Jnana Level

2 years, 8 months ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna master,


Obeisances,


In dec-2022, we were Dhanurdara Swami's book, Morning Musing/Diary.


where there is mention that - a group was asked to describe one quality of devotee.

most of people were saying - gentle/ soft/ accomodating.

one person said- sense controlled.. Dhanurdara swami wrote this person is stuck at jnana level, because there is no relationship here.


we are also something like this..


our temple president said, that they (ISK) can teach how to love Krsna, but not how to Love.


and I dont think we know civilised/pleasant of love.


even we are hearing Krsna book stories for children https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I_8icSwMsA&list=PLvRIsRHyTI9l7gKgOQlnucVWDnv1j-KmL&index=11


mother yasoda's reaction when she heard that Kaliya is trying to strangle Krsna, her reaction are nice to hear... but we have no such emotion for any one.


i think we have encountered this in us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_masculinity


watching and admiring Heroes fighting war, with bravery/ Achilles of Troy/ Leonaidis of Sparta/ Rambo etc etc.... such are our artefacts / icons...that we dont know what to do.


any opinions?


sorry for asking questions. better d o mistake of asking questions rather than mistake of not asking


positive news:

In our daily student interaction we talk of sankhya/ mind/ love as motivation / invisible hand of god/ search for truth/ quest to pleasure/ live farm based life, etc....


i think it might please parampara .


obeisances

Hayagriva Avatar Das


ASA - The Sun knows that the fruit takes time to grow. He continues to give his light and heat, photons, cosmic rays, at first to the damp earth within which is the seeeeed.


Then to the sprout, then seedling, sapling, flowering tree, budding blossom... until the ripened fruit is there.

In the beginning stages there is no hint of a fruit. There is not hint of feelings towards others.

This is natural.


Maya means superficial reactions. Maybe very shallow

Eg. I know that you love me, but what have you done for me lately!


Or below the skin to the bone and muscle eg. Spartans at the pass of (?)Thermopalae.


Yet, go on Chan Ting and our dance becomes slow and steady. We start to contemplate the present, the people, and we begin to see them:

  1. They are completely asleep and any motion in their body is a reaction of the three modes of weather.
  2. They are a little awake and can hear if we accompany it with Ding-dong and Hot-dang.
  3. They want to work on developing the world of Hari Kirtan.

Even just developing a world where there are proper relations between these three Names is wonderful.

Why does the M. M'ntra have the structure it does? Is it Greek grammar?

personal life and second intiation-2

2 years, 8 months ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna master,


your grace wrote --"


1.

Marriage, family, civil, institutional relations are important but Hari Kirtan is the basis of those in Kali yuga."


can you kindly elaborate on word "basis " ? we can fathom this ..



  1. "hari kirtan" means what here, I think our conception is flawed



our conception of Krsna consciousness changed in your association..

earlier I used to think Krishna means only the deity. But after talking with you, we realised even if somebody is able to appreciate sunshine, we are trying to increase his Krishna consciousness.

so what does "hari kirtan" means in progression ?


3. In general I would say that you should try to have pleasant, civilized contact with your family --

the word "pleasant" is very struggling for self.....



4. "Take the Bhakti sastri course with some one! Ask Temple President for recommended source."


I am not against your recommendation, but just to control our strong/stubborn mind by feeble intelligence, we might need little more help



we are finding solace in krsna book narration for children [the fifth regulative principle] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOBQQLG_DKI&list=PLvRIsRHyTI9l7gKgOQlnucVWDnv1j-KmL&index=5. somehow we are telling ourself, we are fool or at best intellectual fools[coder],

so hence on Hari nama and Direct Krsna past times.


We were consciously avoiding classes like Isopanishad, Bhagvad gita, SB, primarily because we are not able to apply all this, seems to us at this moment impractical, especially

when we don't know what is that we should "eat" or what should we do in "work", in day to day life.



secondly, we have always overlooked "sadachar" and over emphasized on "sadhana", then "svadhya", not find us to be useful for "most of sangas" and hence not able to do "seva" to any specific. {5s model of GEV}


This was highlighted by our temple president also on 26 feb 2023, and it hurt us the most when words [ not verbatim ] " is this what you have been taught by your Guru". i knew it was my fault only , and your appreciation.


but we are just trying to find to serve and be worthy of called your disciple in anyway



unintelligent


hayagriva avatar das


linked to --https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/13885/


HpS/ASA - Hare Krsna, Hayagriva Avatara Das.

Krishna speaks through the mouth of a horse for some reason. We can't remember why?


Also, he incarnates as H'g'va twice, no?


Your questions cover a large range of topics.


We have come to: Harer nama anukirtanam.


If you don't know what to do, you are not chanting "Hare Krsna".


First regulative principle is to chant HK/HR loud enough to hear it.


Then, if you are not inspired to do anything else, even after a few mantras, then their is nothing else you should be doing, eating, teaching.


May be that any moment Krsna wants us to leave this world, and get to work in another, so we just chant and "die".


=-=-=-=


If family does not want to share your world nor wants you to share theirs, then subject is finished, yet we are always open if they change their mind, mound, mend, mund, mand.


=-=-=-= === Srnvatam sva katha Krsna... SB 1.2 If we chant we become 'punyatma' pious people. Then high class activities eg. Detiy worship, fire sacrifice, meditation (con tem pla tion) are accessible to us one after another.

-0v0-

So nice to chant.

No better service you can offer Krsna.


At the feet of Prabhupada.


=-=-=-

"Swami Ji, are there problems in your temples"


P'pada - "This is the material world. There are problems EVERYWHERE!"



practical VAD

2 years, 8 months ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna, master, in the service of real Master.

Careful Dandvats, All glories to representative of Krpa Shakti of Lord. The closest lense of transcendental telescope.

Thank you for being transparent.



This poor man has heard from audio vibrations generated from your lips that -- "Sannyas like SB 1.5 of Narada Muni is not practical in today's age.


We always had this conjecture that - " what is practical householder life in today's age" or more importantly what is not practical? we somehow try to imitate the scriptural standards mentioned for householders.


We are asking this again somehow our mind somehow trust you only, I know its great burden on you. So many times we try to stay away from you and be close to your vani,

but that's make us less functional in this world.


folded palms,

bent knees

lowered head.

hayagriva avatar das


Anyways its


HpSwami/ ASA - Letter seems to end in the middle! ?



Last letter - Answer Summary Q4 (2022) and beginning of 2023

2 years, 8 months ago by dpsanchezm in Personal Sadhana Reports

Dear Guru Maharaja, AGTSP!!! PAMHO!!!              

Very grateful to have your support!!!


HpS/ASA - TlgaSP! Gauranga!!!


I will travel to Mexico City on March 23 to receive my first initiation. I will travel with M. Alankriti, who will take second initiation. M. Guru Govinda is our great friend and sister and she will be there too. It will be a nice opportunity to meet you and serve you 🛫

🙌

🙏


Many services in Santiago, happy and inspired devotees!!!


Thank you for your mercy!!!

Your eternal Servant, Bh Diana Sánchez (Santiago, Chile).


HpS - ASA --- All we can say is:


Jaya!

We expect to be very enthused by your association.

We are packing now for Mexico.

Thank you all.

Network

2 years, 8 months ago by hps in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Maharaj,

I just increased the 3GB high speed mobile hotspot data to 15GB. We are now on the unlimited extra data plan which has the 50GB premium data, unlimited text within U.S which we had previously and now unlimited includes Mexico and Canada. Hope that helps🙏


HpSwami/ASA - AgtSP. Paoho. Wonderful, but Nios wants to know if they can contribute to the cost of the service.

Annual Report- Sugopi dd

2 years, 8 months ago by sarita108 in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj,

Please accept my humblest obeisances. AGTSP.

 I apologize for going some time without reporting to you. I hope your health is better. I’ve been joining the morning classes via ASA facebook page and GoToMeeting when I’m with my mother (Sunita). She’s on almost every meeting. She’s been doing lots of service at the temple and going forth with the local temple president’s recommendation letter. Hopefully you’ll see that soon.


Ive been following your settling in Radha Kund. I am trying to visit Vraj in April (Radha rani willing). I was in Jagganth Puri last month which was unreal. I got to see the rock which melted from Lord Caitanya’s love. I saw his finger indentations in the pillar at Jaganath temple in Puri. It was an amazing experience.

I made a wish at the Bakula tree of Haridas Thakur. I also made wishes at the kalpa vriksha trees in the Jaganth temple….I prayed for a partner to help me on the path of Bhakti. I’ve been praying for years maharaj- I’m now 30 and it’s starting to feel futile. I’ve been looking for years and consulted astrologers who all say there’s nothing hindering my ability to find a husband. I’ve signed up for the devotional matchmakers and websites, but there’s slim pickings and no one I can connect to. My mentors told me to ask you, but I know that’s not really your purview. I pray for your blessings to make this happen- if it’s meant to be. If not- I pray for acceptance.


HpS - AgtSP!! Thank you. Kali yuga! Well maybe you can take birth in Afganisthan and be the Gandhari and marry the oldest son of the Kurus!!

Hmmm. Nope. All your 100-babies will get killed (Squash. Slice. Oooo/Awww ...Argh).


O.K. You be like Mother Saci.

Hmmm .... Also, no. She lost like seven babies before she got Nimai and Visvarupa.


Hmmm..... Sita? Nope (Exiled by Husband). Radha (Nope, boyfriend went to the Big City and never returned)...... Hey what do you want? Hmmm (smile) guess the best use of a bad bargain.


For sure there is a very precise reason for your situation. Very precise, and if you are 16/4 initiated devotee, Radha is personally managing things for you.

What is it?

I don't know, but chanting etc should give you some idea.

Lot more stories in SB, MBharata that give perspective. Maybe Krsna wants to marry you?

O.K.?

Agreeable to that proposition?


Service wise, I’ve been co-instructing gita discissions at the local yoga studio in DC. I’ve also been teaching yoga on weekends. The prasadam food truck is gaining donors and we’re working on getting grants to support the efforts. Chanting has been going…good days and bad days.

I hope I get to see you this year. Praying for your mercy.


Your aspiring servant,

Sugopi dd 


HpS - Jaya!! Are you engaged in the dog-eat-dog business world? Is your boss a dog?

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