Canto 7.1-10 , quick way to meet vishnu

3 weeks, 2 days ago by harsh_horse in Special Category A

Hare Krsna, Gurudeva,

AGTSP,

Narada Muni says in 7.1.27 in his opinion, intense absorption in thought of SPOG is possible in enmity more than devotional service.


In 7.1.32

He said Vena can not attain SPOG, because he can not think of Krsna

7.1.31


Five ways sanctioned by him to think of Krsna, lust/ envy/ family/ affection/ general devotion.


Big statement

Mr. Hirayanksha and Hiranyakashipur are example of this, kill every one who is dear To Vishnu, then we will meet Vishnu.


Sukracharya seems to help people meet Vishnu quickly by enimity.


ASA opinion?


HpS - Not much opinion. Is special person who hates God.

Most people hate their spouse, job, boss, landlord...

To hate God must be something acquired even from past life.


Kubja is example of Bhu Shakti. Krsna associates with Sri Shakti, lik Radha and Laksmi, continuouly. They have full service attitude. They don't want to enjoy Prasada separate from Krsna's enjoyment.

Yet, Bhu shakti will only take Prasdam, but wants good Prasadam, no?


Surpanakha wants to enjoy conjugal life with Rama.


World War III is get sixteen nice rounds done.


If can't do that, then fix a number we know we can do for a certain period then don't accept any excuses from your body. Do it.


Eg. one round a year on Janmastami for the next five years.


Student like Prahlada Maharaj

3 weeks, 2 days ago by harsh_horse in Special Category A

Hare Krsna, Maharaj, AGTSP , PAMHO

Hare Krsna TB


ASA/TB - Hare Krsna. Hayagriva avatara Das!


From previous experience of our classes we used be very cranky about students not willing to learn.

We were thinking of Sanda and Amarka.


Now we can sit in class that my frustration is like of hired teacher and the students determination is like Prahlad Maharaj.


In fact Prahlad Maharaj is a very good example of students not interested in taking the instruction of the teacher seriously.


And in the free time away from teachers he is trying to influence them.

So may be all classrooms are reflection of the hiranyakashshapur classroom.


Great example


HpS/ASA - Yes, but Krsna Balarama in Avantipur was different, no?

Maybe you will get Krsna and Balarama for your students?


Previous:https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/16473/


A long dialog? When we first met? After class in Gaziabhad with Mataji?

Sankirtan Monterrey

Por favor acepte mis reverencias todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Gurudeva apreciamos su misericordia .


ASA - Can we go for some time to Monterrey, Gadadhara Gosai Das et al?

Fly from Houston into Mexico and out of Monterrey?


GGD -cual es la fecha de ?Monterrey? es muy inspirador poder recibirlo gracias a la misericordia de los devotos estamos formando un sankirtan a nivel técnico mediante la asociación civil NG ,.tenemos 15 estudiantes ya integrados al programa de servicio social para desarrollar un proyecto de 480 horas ,(sustentabilidad , alimentación , energías y compostaje , el desarrollo del material de lectura nos gustaría si usted puede dar la introducción en relación al tema o pueda recomendarnos que es lo mejor.


HpS/ASA - Hare Krsna... Octubre 18, Rianyo, Espanya. Proyecto rural de Jara-mara-hari Das et al..

Seis vacas y tres cuervos detras de nuestra ventana de piso 2 aqui.

Mooooo! CaCa!!


Aire fresca.


Replica de Vaikuntha.


Es bien exitoso poyecto, pero claro, tiene que adjustar en terminos del ambient mas aplio, actual.


Puede funcionar sin electricidad?


Claro, vuelo a Sud America retrasado pero anu aparece Mejico para 7 Enero es firma.


Muchas gracias a todos!!!!

Nuestra humilde opinión


Dear Gurumaharaja,

Please accept our respectful obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!


Thank you very much for your association.

We look forward to hearing from you.

It is completely understandable that the South American tour must wait; we recall you once saying that, at times, the treatment can be worse than the disease itself. With that in mind, we will remain more attentive regarding future opportunities.


You are so thoughtful to consider fulfilling the travel plans for January, but please know that you are under no obligation to us.

We agree with you—after a few weeks in Houston, things will become clearer; as you mentioned, Lord Nrsimhadeva will inspire the devotees.


We can resume planning for Mexico whenever Lord Nrsimhadeva deems it appropriate.


If I may, I would like to share a thought I have had over the last few years.

The tours to Mexico and South America are very intense because the dates follow one another consecutively. I humbly suggest that they could perhaps take place at separate times. Mexico could always serve as a stopover—if necessary for the sake of a more economical ticket to South America—but given its proximity to the United States, it could also be the focus of a separate visit, lasting one or several days. Of course, this would mean two distinct tours within the year, but it might allow us to better manage and conserve your energy. What do you think, Gurumaharaja?


Thank you very much for your time and your example, and thank you for documenting your own Ayurvedic treatment for the sake of preaching.


Your eternal aspiring servant,

Asta Sakhi dd


HpS/ASA - Hare Krsna. 4.52pm aqui in new Nanda-gram.

Maybe 40-devotees here for the Mangala arati/SB.


Many cows.

Little cold. crisp, but fresh air.

Staying with Adirasa Das in a new RNB.

Hare Krsna. Hare Krsna.


Yes, the body is detoxified (?) and we are starting renovation.

Born again!


Yes. Good idea is "Mexico is a suburb of Texas".


[Or Texas is a suburb of Mexico].


We will wait until USAto cancel the Aero Mexico ticket to see if Lord Nrsmhadeva plans to guarantee our ticket.

😃


Gauranga!!! Let us go to the next letter.


_______________


Querido Gurumaharaja 

Por favor acepte nuestras respetuosas reverencias.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada! 


Muchas gracias por su asociación.

Estamos atentos a sus noticias. 

Es totalmente comprensible que la gira a Sudamérica deba esperar, recordamos que una vez nos dijo que muchas veces el tratamiento es peor que la misma enfermedad, en ese sentido estaremos más alertas para las próximas oportunidades. 


Usted es tan atento que está pensando en cumplir con los viajes de Enero pero no tiene ninguna obligación con nosotros. 

Estamos de acuerdo con Usted, después de algunas semanas en Houston las cosas serán mas claras, como menciona, el Señor Nrsimhadeva inspirará a los devotos.

 

Nosotros podemos retomar la planificación para México cuando el Señor Nrsimhadeva esté de acuerdo. 


Si me permite, quiero aprovechar en externar un pensamiento que he tenido en los últimos años. 

Las giras: México - Sud América son muy intensas porque las fechas son continuas, humildemente pienso que podrían ser en fechas separadas, México siempre puede ser una escala de descanso, si es necesario para un ticket económico para Sud America, pero al estar más cerca a Estados Unidos puede tener otro periodo de visita de uno o muchos días, porsupuesto significa dos giras distantes en el año pero posiblemente podamos lograr dosificar y cuidar mejor su energía, que le parece Gurumaharaja? 


Muchas gracias por su tiempo y ejemplo, muchas gracias por la documentación de su propio tratamiento pancha karma en aras de la predica.

Que el Señor Nrsimhadeva lo proteja.


Vuestra eterna aspirante a sirviente 

Asta Sakhi dd

Would you like so say more on this topic?

3 weeks, 3 days ago by Namacarya das in Other

You wrote:

hope more later.

It is from here:

https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/16465/


Thank you!


Namacarya Das


HpS - Still, agtSP, in the airplane.

Come to North Spain for four day symposium at New Nandahaon.


Typing on our cell phone.

Maybe have full keyboard soon.


USA 22nd October.


One quick point is:

"... As soon as anyone becomes envious, he falls from the platform of paramahaṁsa."

As soon as anyone becomes envious, he falls from the platform of paramahaṁsa.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/noi/6/#bb5968

Bharata Maharaja fell from Emperor of the Earth to jungle beast.

🦌

Question on BG 2.2 and 2.6: Arjuna’s “impurities” and his “complete control” and "enlightement"

3 weeks, 3 days ago by Namacarya das in Hot Topics


Dear Guru Maharaj, all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Please accept my humble obeisances.

Hare Krishna!


I hope you are recovering from your travels and panca karma treatment.


HpSwami - AgtSP! ‼️

paoho & bw....

.... guess it is not recovering but rebuilding.


pancha karma breaks down the rusty structure of the gross body accumulated by years of distressed action and allows us to build a better tool based upon better activity.



I’m writing because I’ve been studying the Second Chapter of the Bhagavad Gita and have a question that I can’t settle on my own. I’d be grateful for your guidance.


In the purport to 2.2, Srila Prabhupada describes Arjuna’s lamentation as “impurities” that are “unbecoming,” and he calls his refusal to fight “an act of cowardice” that befits non-Āryans. In 2.1 he says this conduct “was not expected from him.”


But in the purport to 2.6, the same Arjuna is described as someone who “was not only a great devotee of the Lord but also highly enlightened and had complete control over his mind and senses,” and it concludes that “Arjuna was quite fit for liberation.”


I understand that both statements are meant for their own verses, and that Arjuna’s desire to beg rather than enjoy a kingdom does show detachment. Still, I get stuck on the strength of the words. Also, on keeping the verses in context, i.e., understanding that they are part of the book and do not stand alone for themselves.


If someone has complete control over mind and senses, how can he also be overcome by impurities?


If Arjuna can be called ‘highly enlightened’ and in ‘complete control of his mind and senses,’ and yet still act in a way Srila Prabhupada calls unbecoming, then I don’t understand what those words are meant to convey. In 2.7, Arjuna himself says his mind is confused and he doesn’t know his duty. How can I reconcile this with ‘complete control'.



My own attempt at an answer is this: Arjuna may be free from greed and from craving for enjoyment, but still attached to his family, and these are two different kinds of attachment. Or perhaps Srila Prabhupada is describing Arjuna’s true position and qualification, while the confusion is a temporary situation, or even a role he plays so that the Gita can be spoken for our benefit. But I’m not sure I’m understanding it rightly, and I don’t want to settle for an answer just because it sounds comfortable.



So, in a way, my questions are:

  1. How should I understand strong words like “complete control” and “highly enlightened” when they appear next to Arjuna’s evident grief and confusion?
  2. Is it correct to see Arjuna’s confusion as real, or as a pastime for our instruction?
  3. How should I approach this kind of tension when I meet it in other places in Prabhupada’s books?

I ask with respect and a sincere wish to understand. Please forgive any offense in the way I’ve put things.


Thank you for your time and grace.


Trying to be... your servant,

Namacarya Das


HpS/ASA - I, agtSP, understand that under his control his mind and senses are becoming contaminated, to show us the Bhagavad Gita.


We heard that Srila P'pada said that Arjuna forgot who Krsna was but he never ceased to love Him.


He let his lower memory become contaminated because he understood the desire of Krsna.

O. K.?.