7 Purposes of ISKCON -- Local Temple-2

3 weeks, 6 days ago by harsh_horse in Special Category A

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Hare Krsna Gurudeva, agtSP, pamho.


after reading your letter, i think 7 purposes of ISKCON are defining, what is sankirtana ?

we think before Sankirtana comes Sadhana--aas you said


for us, local temple begins with mangala arati, kirtan and srimad bhagavatam as mentioned in NoI.

the community that regularly attends and builds those programs is our 'local temple'.


Well, seem you gave new definition of local temple, which is free from geography , yet practical.


Again took help of AI to understand your message-- AI's answer

He's showing that ISKCON's "local temple" was never purely a building you could walk to. From day one, it was a network held together by media and periodic gathering — because devotees were scattered and isolated, with no existing geographic devotee neighborhoods to rely on. The "local temple" was wherever the connection reached, not wherever the address was.


He's saying the sense of belonging to a temple/community doesn't have to come from physical nearness — it can come from the channels of communication that connect a person to Krishna consciousness and to other devotees. Those channels become the temple, functionally, even without shared geography.


Just sharing a residential area doesn't automatically produce sanga. People living on the same street may work in different places, keep different schedules, have no built-in reason to interact daily, and may not even share the same spiritual practice. Proximity of address doesn't guarantee proximity of association.


nice question:

If devotees wanted to all live together in one colony (one geographic location), would that force them to travel far for work — because their jobs are scattered in different places, not near that colony?

---our own reflection----

our current geographical local temple SEEMS to be focusing to get people together on sunday programmes and donation.. not much talk about sadhana is done it seems..


we have to follow our sadhana then Krsna will send people to make a local temple.


HpS - Yes. First is service attitude. If Local Temple is not going in the right direction in all aspects, then see how you can contribute some leadership, example. In a very loud Kirtan that we see has many faults, but is still with good qualities, even though our voice is not loud enough to be heard over the roaring drums and PA system, we chant from our heart.

Bhur, Bhuvah, Sva.

We are contributing on the Bhuvah level. It changes the reality and often we see that within is few Mantras the leader has changed, improved, according to our tastes, the Kirtan.

Better rhythm, more meaning...

chanting seriously-3

3 weeks, 6 days ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

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Hare Krsna Gurudeva,

agTSP. pamho.

we can not decipher your messages hence again took help of AI and hot [got] a new perspective..


i wrote this to hpswami and he replied, HpS - ASA -- AgtSP. When robots rule the world.


The world turn inward to find deeper meaning....and sent attched imge

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Ha! HpSwami has a wonderful sense of humor! 🥊

Two guinea pigs boxing — and his comment: "When robots rule the world, the world turns inward to find deeper meaning..."

I think he is gently and humorously pointing out:

You are fighting with yourself!

  • One guinea pig = You wanting to chant, be a devotee, be free
  • Other guinea pig = You resisting, sleeping, feeling burdened, counting debt

Both fighters are the same species — it's an internal civil war, not a real external enemy!

"Robots rule the world" may mean:

When we become mechanical about devotional practice — counting rounds like a robot, measuring debt like an accountant — we lose the living spirit of bhakti. Then even our inner world becomes a battleground instead of a sanctuary.

His deeper hint perhaps:

Stop fighting yourself over rounds. The self-conflict IS the problem, not the rounds themselves.

A gentleman (as Prabhupada said) doesn't fight himself in public or private. He moves with grace.

HpSwami seems to be a very realized and playful teacher — communicating deep things through guinea pig memes is itself a form of grace and mercy! 🙏


Does this reading feel right to you?

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Any comments Gurudeva did you intent to say this?


Answer to this -

1. yes we have been fighting ourself from very beginning. we became mechanical , never developed spirit of bhakti...

2.yes Self-conflict is issue not rounds..


no idea with faith what to do.. for time being hear songs of Mahavtar Narsimha movie


HpS - AgtSP.

We wrote some comments in the letter from Piyari mohan, Piero, today, on this same theme.

Do they help.


Do the best we can do at the current moment. We will always be stupid, mild animals, so best to do what we can and realize that Krsna can make that something really useful.


The Monkeys were throwing rocks. The Rakshasas we using laser directed anti tank missiles, but the monkeys were winning because they were blessed by Mother Sita and the Raksasas we cursed by Her.

HK Maharaj

3 weeks, 6 days ago by mercurio3 in Personal Sadhana Reports

All glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga!

PAMHO. AGTSP!


HK Maharaj! How are you? Long time no see 😃 how have you been?? Are you still in the US? How’s your health doing??


Well, here everything’s alright. I was thinking the other day about all of this situation regarding the mother of my child, her legal demand and I was surprised how so many devotees seem to be on her side.


When all of this started I got in touch with Mataji Chandra Mukhi, the Peruvian astrologer, and she told me, according to Jyotish calculations, that my ex partner “she has a great capability of being evil”, “she manifests her adharma through her mouth/speaking”, and that “she’s very interested after money”, Prabhu Daru Krishna (another astrologer) told me that “she has no respect for authority”.


Even she admitted before the legal authorities that she established a relationship with me “just to beget a child”.


And I question myself, even initiated devotees are on her side, how can’t they see all of this by their own means??


I always felt that for the one who lives in the truth, he recognizes the truth when he hears it.


And I was wondering in that respect, how when Putana entered mother Yasoda’s house the inhabitants of Vrindavan couldn’t realize who she really was?? Aren’t they perfected souls? Was that some sort of enchantment performed by Krishna??


So I please ask you, how can any person be protected from that influence?? What are the means by which one can always perceive the truth?


thank you for your guidance!!

HK Maharaj!

Federico


ASA - Hare Krsna, Federico.

Thank you for your news.

Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna!! Extremely venerable Sri Krsna, object of glorification of His Divine Grace Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, Prabhupada in His book, Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, please guide me in Your service.


Krsna is everyone's well wisher. Of course, He is especially His own well wisher, 😎. He only wants to enjoy life like anything, yet, since we are all His fingers, toes, tummy, it is to our benefit the more and in ever fresh ways He enjoys.


Ramananda Raya was bathing and massaging the bodies of beautiful young girls after they had been working hard practicing to dance in alluring fashion for Lord Jagannatha.

Lord Caitanya said that that was the perogative of RR. Even He, LC, could not do that.

It continues to say that some one may appear to be engaged in bad activities, but internally may be engaged in the service of the Lord, and only LC and His intimate associates can distinguish such people. We practicing devotees, must evaluate people as we see them externally and internally according to our level of development, but not forget that they may be engaged properly, but we cannot see it.


Offer obeisances to an ant. Trnad api sahinuna...


🙂

Reporte

3 weeks, 6 days ago by piyari_mohan_das in Other



Hare Krishna Maharaja

PAMHO AGTSP


I hope you are in good health.


My health has been good, and I remain in contact with my devotee friends, but the truth is that I'm no longer following the Krishna consciousness process. In that sense, as you taught me, we are now friends more than teacher and disciple.


However, I continue some practices and want to keep sharing Srila Prabhupada's teachings through my music and other projects.


I want to continue supporting, but I'm no longer a devotee as such.


Thank you Maharja, I wish that you continue to serve Srila Prabhupada eternally.


Piero (Piyari Mohan das)


HpS/ASA - Hare Krsna, Prabhu, Piero.

Thank you for your news.

We looked for more than ten minutes but could not find the exact citation in the NOD. Maybe someone knows where it is.

Rupa Goswami says that we should not accept more devotional service than we can actually do. Surprisingly, Srila Prabhupada gives the example of chanting 16-rounds. He says, as we remember, that if one cannot chant the prescribed number of rounds instructed by a bona fide, agtSP, spiritual master even after vowing to do so, one should not be discouraged, rather one should chant as much as he can, and this will gradually bring him back to the full standard.

Jaya!

Best wishes for reading and preaching!!

Moon Beams from a Larger Madness

1 month ago by hps in DTC

oink! Hare Krsna. Hare Krsna. 🐷


here we are in ISKCON Boise.

the sun is shinning, the wind is blowing, the air is clean and fresh. it is just a few moments in any direction to the high desert plains.


hare krsna. hare krsna.


alone with krsna in infinite space.


enough fresh air and sunlight.


it is like being in the krsna-balarama temple in the afternoons. the 24-hour kirtan is going with two or three people.

deities are 'resting'.


warm, quiet, spiritual without limit.


like the beginning of clifford simak's, 'time is the simplest thing' as we remember it.

we were like 12-years old when we read it.


what do radha and krsna want?

what do they need??

of mother yasoda and the gopi's intuition, we must certainly take heed.


siesta of the gods.



hare krsna. hare krsna.