SB Sunday Workshop (Nov 09) -- CC 2.17: "The Lord Travels to Vrindavana"

1 week, 1 day ago by upendra1 in Calendar Development

Sunday, November 09, 2025, at 7.30am, Houston time (CST ~~ time zone)

We will start reading Madhya Lila; 17.01 onwards.

(The Lord travels to Vrindavana)

We are starting new chapter 17.


Thank you to H. G. Nikunja Bihari Prabhu will help us with Spanish translation for reading notes of CC and Maharaja's class, thank you to Sruti Priya Mataji for willing to do seva of back up Spanish translation, in case there are some technical issues.


Maharaja, thank you for engaging everyone in reading systematically books of Srila Prabhupada.


Your Servant

Upendra Dasa

philosophical confusion or insincerity

1 week, 1 day ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Kṛṣṇa Gurudeva,

All Glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda (AGTSP), Please Accept My Humble Obeisances (PAMHO),

This letter is an attempt to express what feels like the Supersoul speaking from outside—through reflections and realizations.


Recently, while browsing YouTube, we came across a channel dedicated to Stoicism—Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, and others. It made us realize that the kind of language and tone used by these Stoic teachers resonates with us deeply. This kind of teaching in modern time is given by Stephen Covey (mormon) and Vicktor Frankel (psychiatrist, survivor of Concentration camp)


HpS - "The Art of Love"


... while hearing them, there was hollowness because they never talked about ontological person, and what should be done.


Perhaps this is the kind of guidance we subconsciously wish to hear from our asrama mentors. Then use them to serve spiritual mentors. Interestingly, we find ourselves speaking in a similar tone—maybe 70% of the time—when interacting with some of our students.


HpS - Yes, we have the same reaction! The jnanis like Stoics, Confuscious, Socrates, Shakespeare, have more zeros than the Karmis, so when we put a one in front of their work it is more valuable.

0.00 = 0

000.00 = 0

10.00 < 1000.00 😆


Here’s the video we encountered: 10 Powerful Things to Tell Yourself Every Morning — MORNING SECRET | STOICISM


When we integrate this with the teachings of the Bhagavad-gītā, it seems these Stoic habits help people transition from Tamas to Rajas. And in today’s world, which is saturated with tamas, such guidance feels especially relevant.


Still, we sense that our conviction in serving Kṛṣṇa is not yet fully formed. he exists, but maybe want to have liberation of being like him, (saryuja mukti).


ISKCON has certainly transformed our ontological worldview, but sometimes we wonder if our desire to please Kṛṣṇa resembles that of Hiranyakashipu or Indra—motivated more by ego or fear than by pure devotion. We hesitate to elaborate further on our internal landscape.


You once mentioned that we might be suffering more from karma-vāda than māyā-vāda. That insight continues to echo within us.


Despite reading ISKCON literature and engaging in devotional practices, our external setting often feels alien.


During the times we were practicing Bhakti angas, our bhakti seemed tamasic—perhaps even militant, like a misguided zealot. The goal is clear, but the process remains hazy.


We are seeking the perspective of TB and HpS on this—almost as if they are functioning as external manifestations of the Supersoul.

This letter has been refined with the help of AI, to better articulate our thoughts in English.


wish i could have seen HpS as representative of Krsna instead of just extension of supersoul


a burden on HpS

horse


HpS/ASA - Oink 🐷

We cannot give too much help!

We do not declare to be a very advanced devotee.

All that you are saying seems to be indicative of someone that Socrates, Marcus A., would love to meet.

How do you think they would react to the KRSNA book, 'Wisdom from Ancient India'?


I think your analysis of your position is pretty good.


I think you are on the right path. Go ahead. Your next life as a human being seems to be guaranteed.

Your Karma would seem to be directly a tool that Krsna (Sri Advaita) is using to teach you.


Next life in Nabadvipa?

Family sucked along with you??? 😆

O.K. Enough Blog.

Eyes fried.

Now, Gayatri, VDM and then Gaura arati!

Join us?

WWW. YouTube.Com ISKCON Houston

To TB as you deem fit

1 week, 1 day ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna, Tom Brown (Swarup Damodar To HpS)..

AGTSP, PAMHO.


Every Sunday there is a class held by HpS. Somehow, we have missed it for many weeks. Still, in the background of our minds, we feel deeply grateful for all that HpS has given us.


We are satisfied and fortunate that he initiated us. Sometimes, simply holding on to chanting and following the four regulative principles feels like a sufficient battle for the day.


HpS reminds us that there are many levels of initiation. Yet, we do not wish to brood over our struggles or speak too much about them. What matters is that we are keeping the promise we made to him. Enthusiastic chanting is not always easy—its definition shifts with our circumstances. At present, we are struggling even for daily food. Still, we are not suffering; only the body and mind may feel the strain.



we had whatsapp chat with him and shared link

-- may be this link can be shared with Prof Ravi M. Gupta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpTIWeZqObE


HpS - AgtSP!!! Thank you. We looked at this link from our WhatsApp conversation. It seemed pretty good, but didn't seem to some to a useful point for us too fast.

I think that there may not be an appreciation that Srila Prabhupada is using the work Demigod and was broadly acceptable to the intellectual community of Srila Bhakti vinode and Siddhanta, 19th century and early 20th century English.


trying to keep being enthusiastic in chanting

Hayagriva Avatar Das


HpS - Enthusiastic does not always equal material quality, no? Some days mind is a storm and then to keep it only 60% on the chanting is enthusiastic chanting.

Krsna sees how much money you are donating in your hand, but He also sees how much you are keeping in your pocket!

Personal Notes on a, Hopefully, Mature Approach to Bhakti-yoga

1 week, 1 day ago by Namacarya das in Personal Sadhana Reports

Personal Notes on a, Hopefully, Mature Approach to Bhakti-yoga

What follows is not “absolute truth.”

The Absolute Truth is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā.

These are my impressions — what Kṛṣṇa has allowed me to comprehend through personal experience, reflection, and, to some degree, sincere practice.


1. Foundational Understanding

Skipping the basic teachings of the Bhagavad-gītā leads to superficiality and often results in what is called spiritual bypassing — avoiding genuine inner work and unresolved emotions under the pretext of “spiritual life.”


ASA - Maybe like not making a foundation for a building?


The past, whatever it was, should be accepted. It is not an obstacle but a starting point.

Now, the focus should be deep, careful, slow, and deliberate study:

first the Bhagavad-gītā, then the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, followed by the Caitanya-caritāmṛtaNectar of Devotion, and other essential works.


ASA - Yet, the Bhaktivedanta Purports include the previous books in the list, no? So if we start with the most advanced, eg. KRSNA book then Srila Prabhupada will teach us BG also, no?

Different people are reading to join at different levels, no?

Eg. Fred can appreciate the KRSNA book but needs the BG instruction included to fill out his fundamentally good BG knowledge from previous lives.



Every person has their psychophysical nature (svabhāva). That nature should not be denied in the practice of bhakti — at least not in the early and middle stages.


Spiritual growth comes through gradual transformation, not through forced suppression of one’s inherent tendencies.


ASA - Yet, we can do some suppression, no? Just say, "No" to chocolate!!!! Some suppression is natural, but cultivating the higher taste as you suggest is real basis.


Bhakti is not lived by negating the world, but by purifying one’s relationship with it.

ASA - 🐷 can we join your school??? Wonderful.


2. Responsibility and Everyday Life

Bhakti-sādhakas should live according to their natural duty (dharma):

  • working, earning honestly, and contributing to society,
  • not living indulgently, but also not artificially renouncing comfort,
  • being educated and financially independent — not dependent on parents, institutions (including ISKCON), or anyone else.

Such a life develops a genuine sense of responsibility.

When such devotees gather, they do not seek titles or recognition. Their association becomes a natural setting for talking and singing about Kṛṣṇa and His energies.

In that atmosphere, there is no need for unnecessary hierarchy.

Respect arises spontaneously — from maturity and mutual appreciation, not from titles or formal power.

In such a community, bhakti becomes a living reality, not an organizational system.


ASA - Srila Prabhupad comments that there is no difference between the grhasta fully engaged in KC and the man in the renounced order of life, but because of more formal austerities the Sannyasi is given more FORMAl respect.

Is the same, no?

The formalities then seem like formalities with pleasant meaning.



3. Arjuna as an Example

Arjuna did not change his occupation or his clothes.

He changed his consciousness, mentality, and intention.

That is the essence of bhakti-yoga: inner transformation within the life one already lives.

Spirituality is not an escape from the world but a change in how we relate to it.

In this way, progress becomes organic, natural, and clear — not forced, but alive.


Material problems will always exist, but with a proper inner attitude they become opportunities for learning and growth.


HpS - Wow! Yes. Super.


4. Tolerance and Boundaries

Titikṣā — forbearance — is a divine quality, but it must be understood correctly.


If someone can humbly tolerate injustice (to oneself), that is noble.

But if someone cannot, that is not a lack of spirituality.

There must be (is) a way to express pain and suffering.

Forbearance must not become an excuse for allowing abuse — whether personal, social, or institutional.


ASA - NoI 3 - Enthusiasm is more important than tolerance. We must be enthusiastic about our tolerance because we see it is getting good results?


Especially within religious organizations, where “tolerance” is too often used as a shield for those in power.

When the idea of “spiritual tolerance” is misunderstood, it may turn into passive acceptance of wrongdoing instead of compassionate correction. Misusing the principle of tolerance and patience to excuse harmful acts creates space where abuse can persist.


True tolerance does not only mean being a doormat; it means staying composed and clear while truth and justice are being expressed.


It is easy to be “tolerant” when everyone pampers and praises us.

But real tolerance is tested only in adversity — and then it requires both strength and wisdom, not mere passivity.


ASA - We pause here. Please give us your thoughts about our comments above and then resubmit 5 and 6 if you think it is right!

Now let us go to another Post??


Thank you! 🐵 🐸 🐦 ...



5. A Practical Path

  1. Study the Bhagavad-gītā deeply and patiently — verse by verse, with personal reflection and application.
  2. Do not skip the foundations — understand the basics before moving on to deeper texts.
  3. Keep personal notes — record questions, insights, and experiences.
  4. Observe potential teachers carefully — look at the fruits of their lives, not only their words.
  5. Work on the psychological level as well — do not avoid emotions; include conversation, counseling, or therapy if needed.
  6. Maintain simple, steady daily habits — hearing, chanting, prayer, and service.

Bhakti then becomes a path of genuine maturation, not a spiritual decoration for the false ego.


6. Final Thought

This path is not easy, but it is real.

Bhakti is not an ideal to imitate — it is an experience to live: consciously, responsibly, and with trust in Kṛṣṇa’s mercy.

When practiced in this way, there is no need for external proof or recognition.

Everything naturally aligns — one’s work, relationships, and inner life.

And through every circumstance, even through hardship, a quiet peace and light begins to shine through:

“Everything is in His hands, and I do my part — with devotion and understanding.”

Restriction in BG 18.67

1 week, 1 day ago by Namacarya das in Other

Dear Guru Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Śrīla Prabhupāda!


HpS/ASA - AgtSP!!!!! Paoho...... . 🌴..


In Bhagavad-gītā 18.67, our dear Bhagavān Śrī Kṛṣṇa says:

“This confidential knowledge may never be explained to those who are not austere, or devoted, or engaged in devotional service, nor to one who is envious of Me.”

My question is: does this restriction refer specifically to the previous verse (18.66), to the preceding few verses (such as 18.64–66), to the entire eighteenth chapter, or to the whole Bhagavad-gītā?


I am asking only if you think the answer could help me in my bhakti-yoga sādhana and that I am capable of understanding it.


Thank you very much.


Your servant,

Namacarya Dās


HpS/ASA - Let us look to the BhVed purport for illumination, no?

https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/18/67/


"Such persons should not be told of Bhagavad-gītā,"


It seems that the BG includes different levels of confidentiality. Eg. Chapter 10 describes 'vibhutimat sattva', among animals I am the lion, so we can talk to some people about the greatness of lion, or the light of the sun, or Spring.

Then depending on their condition we can go to the situation of the soul as different from the body, then the eternal function of the soul and Supersoul... Then...

... of course Srila Prabhupada mentions 'serving a pure devotee in the Purport, so it may be that a demon does a little service to the devotees in ISKCON for example and that immediately qualifies them to understand hear some things in the Gita.

Of course, hearing about Lord Caitany and His name and associates can also make people pious.

O.K.?

Any experiences of this???


Sankirtan

Hare Krishna, Maharaj. pamho.


Maharaj I am very honored and happy to be able to share with you that I just got a new box of books “la luz del bhagavata”


They will be reaching their new owners, while they are thinking “we just went for a new tattoo”


HpS/ASA - AgtSP!!! This might help: https://www.jayarama.us/archives/lob-sym-production.doc


thank you Maharaja for being and incredible resource of power and inspiration to keep chanting the Maha~Mantra Hare Krishna


Hare Krishna Hare Krishna

krishna Krishna

hare hare

hare Rama hare Rama

Rama Rama hare hare


Bhakta Jorge


HpS - Jaya!!!!! AgtSP!

Let us go to the next Blog Post!