Urgent: SB monday class

3 years, 11 months ago by Isvari devi dasi in Special Category A, Calendar Development

Hare Krsna Maharaja and ASA team,

PAMHO, AGTSP!


I hoping everyone is well.

I inform you that tomorrow, Monday, August 9, Indranila dd will give his presentation of SB 3.14.35-36.

She is from Costa Rica and performs service in ISKCON Spain.


Thank you for youy mercy

Sri Nrsimhadeva protect ASA team


ys Isvari R dd



HpS/ASA -- AGTSP. Paoho. We listened to the local, ISKCON Boise, class today. Sudevi Dasi, wife of our Braja mandala Parikrama partner, Sadhu Das, from Malaga, Spain, gave the class. It was very nice.

We thought that devotees could open GoToMeeting.com by themselves, but were later worried that it didn't happen, but then saw on the GTM panel that it seems to have happened!


ASA - Lady's Mandala, can you send the news for next Monday by Wednesday?? How was today's presentation?

Red Faced Monkey

3 years, 11 months ago by hps in Special Category A

AGTSP paoho


In our recent ASA Symposium on Education we were lamenting that no from the Executive Committee or Zonal Reps responded to our invitations to join us, but finally we got to our e-mail after producing the program and then traveling to ISKCON Boise, Idaho, and here is a very, very, very, inspiring letter from Tapan Misra Das, Executive Secretary of the Ministry (and I hope still our very good friend).

We must have missed it because it came after we had alreay dove into the ocean of organizing the event and could not check our Yahoo Mail.



On Friday, July 30, 2021, 10:23:10 AM MDT, Tapana Mishra Das wrote:

Respected Maharaja, Dandavats. Jai Srila Prabhupada.

I am most grateful for your email. Please let me know which slot you would like me to join for. I will try my best to do so. Your servant, Tapana Mishra dasa.


HpS - ASA - Thank you, Prabhu. We hope to talk soon.

FMP Low profile

3 years, 11 months ago by candra108_mukhi in Special Category A

Hare Krsna Beloved Gurudeva:

AGTSP, PAMHO


I was eager to write to You a long time ago. When I got initiation back to 2004 I started to be a pujari right away. Besides that I was always enganched [engaged] in the temple service trying to keep good communication with the authorities. And so forth,


Years passed and I do not know if I can use the word "corruption" (you can delete it if you think this word is unappropiate) corruption within some temple authorities. These things affected my utsahan and even if I continued with my service, and I recalled all the things that you had to put up with within all these years in ISKCON my faith is not as strong as yours. I am aware that if I continue chanting Krsna will give me the intelligence to continue with utsahan.


HpS/ASA - AGTSP! Paoho. I think corruption is O.K., if we are willing to apply it to ourselves. Another word might be alloyed . I can see it happening to myself all the time.

Some may fall into vanity.

Some into pizza-fudge.

Some into sexo-illicito,

By Diti was certainly smudged.


Yet it they are still all corruption, alloyed, service.


The the thing that affected me the most was how the authorities handle the repainting of Gaura Nitai!!!!


I sent pictures comparing the deities in the past and now. We can tell the difference, I offer money to cover all the expenses and a team to work. I do not know why they are so stubborn :(


HpS/ASA - Neither do we. 😮

One time Jaya Tirtha Das and one senior Mataji were arguing over how Rukmini Dvarakadisha should be dressed, so they to the quarrel to Srila Prabhupada and as we heard it, he raised his hand with a smile and laughed and said that it was a matter of personal taste. He was not going to get involved.

Maybe that. Maybe something else.


Or maybe I am. The thing is that I have no forces to pursue this. My heart is broken 💔 in thousand pieces when I saw how They look today.


I guess that is time for me to let go.


Moreover it's not just me.


Other devotees do not agree either. But "they have the power"


ASA/TB - Does this apply??? https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/6/18/#bb43711 Can we do a sacrifice to "kill Indra", make disciples who can seize government power in our Yatra, so we can serve Visnu the way we want to serve Him???


My faith in You is intact, but I am trying not to exposure as I did in the past. I listen to your classes but in recordings. I join FMP, my participation in the chat is limited. I know that I am not a top-notch devotee. Nevertheless, today I read a message in Spanish that says: Lo importante no es lo que has logrado sino en lo que te has convertido

"The important thing is not what you have achieved but what you have become" For me the important thing is that I continue being part of ISKCON.


HpS - There are many rooms in the house that Srila Prabhupada is building so that in it the whole world can live, no? So, yes, we will NEVER leave ISKCON. Iskcon has absolute no meaning unless Srila Prabhupada is recognized as the Founder, Foundation, and Acharya, current leading authority.

We all have a right, necessity, to direct communication with him [though so many transparent via media].


Nowadays, for me is more important to keep my spiritual life and my contact with you rather than stand out among the devotees. I have the feeling that I do not have anything to show. I guess in the past I had that necessity to do that. I was immature. Maybe I still am. I just have the duty to tell you.


HpS - Thank you. We are all people. We all feel that the crew is not complete without CMDD and if the authorities see that you have been preaching to a dwarf B'cari who is coming to the Temple during Janmastami festival, they should probably look out.


I want to keep a low profile like Patrak d, Madhumanjari dd. Both are great devotees and serve you, but I I can tell that they are not eager to show off.


I continue giving classes in ISKCON Chosica, and leading kirtan 2 sundays a month


4P

16 rounds ok


Thanks in advance Gurudeva

Trying be your disciple

CMDD


HpS - I hope you have practical faith in us. You have faith in your dog, Ulysses. He will certainly protect you and your sister and cats, but... he is a dog and you do not expect him to do more than that. Jatayu was an eagle and he tried to protect Sita when no one else came forward but he could only do it half way.

Be more enthusiastic to see Gaura Nitai with a face that pleases their Mother's heart.

Jagannath Yatra

3 years, 11 months ago by harsh_horse in Special Category A

Hare Krsna Maharaj

Today we heard commentary of Annual Cart Festival by Lord Jagannath Yatra 2021 by Doordarshan National TV https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCsuK5b0I58


It was amazing to hear devotion filled commentary in English, Sanskrit and Hindi.


There are body builders to get the lord in the cart. Body builder with strong stomach are different (to get the lord up from back ) and strong arm are different(to push lord from sides).


I wish it could be a National festival or even International Festival.


He is the current king https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dibyasingha_Deb

Did the Broom service.


The glories of Odisha should be spread. I would more Research in this.


HpS - Wow! Thanks for the news. Maybe The End of the Industrial Revolution as innaugurated by these pandemia will mark the beginning of our return to depth in our traditional festivals.

urgent ASA communication

3 years, 11 months ago by harsh_horse in Special Category A

Hare Krishna Maharaj,


This is regarding answering letters,

I just have an idea, which is little Sudra. We can use a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot technology. This automatically give answers based on AI content analysis.


It will be helpful, if you can share email addresses of disciples who you think can be helpful in this.


From management angle I am viewing this as, service or customer service department.


bowing down.

Horse


ASA - Hare Krsna! AgtSP. I think you don't realize that you are actually dealing with a bunch of Monkeys and Pigs, and Uncle Gismo, whose technology is based in 1947.

We need to start with posting to a MicroSoft Word file and using the data manipulation facilities available there. This is better than manual card catalogue files, but not much.

😎

If we can do that and then integrate it with the ASA Sankirtan team, then it can be expanded in so many ways externally.

9.36PM - Got some head ache from different stuff, but this ASA-e is very important.

Let us talk when we get to Boise!!

Maybe some help there.


Comments from Ameyatma Das

3 years, 11 months ago by hps in Special Category A

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 PM CDT, ameyatma wrote:


HK, AGTSP  By mistake I sent the original email via my business email address, as James Beals,   But, I am Ameyatma das [ACBSP].

I do apologize, i am a technically oriented person, it's my nature to be detailed, that email was as short as I could make it 

(I don't mean to be sarcastic, or whatever, but, SP's books, the Gita, the Vedas, they are all very detailed).

Since your response wasn't much of a response,  I wouldn't have bothered to reply,  but, so far you are the ONLY person, out of all the sannyasis and GBC I sent this to who at least took the time to give any sort of response at all.  

I only wrote SP 4 letters, an d every letter he replied to  in a most kind and merciful way.  I know the last was fairly short, for me, 1 page, typed,  the others were longer, one i recall was at least 4 pages long. SP didn't complain,  he thanked me for the letter (unfortunately, I lost 2 of his letters, so only 2 of his replies to me are in the Vedabase).

My issue is,  SP gave very clear  WRITTEN instructions stating that Temple Presidents can Only be removed, or new one selected    by the Vote of the Temple Members. And Specifically and clearly he wrote that GBC has no such authority

Those instructions are clear, (short and concise) and in Writing along with his signature (as letters to GBC members)

He also has written that that he Did NOT want centralized organization of the temples. But, that the temples need to stand on their own.

Yet, the GBC has had temples (at least in North Am) pass ByLaws that state that members have no such rights, and that ONLY the GBC can remove or appoint a new TP,   and they have set themselves up as central governors over the temples, where THEY will select the temple board members, etc. 

My issue is that all of this is 100%  180 degrees  the exact OPPOSITE of what SP instructed that he wanted,  and those instructions are in Writing.  

How ANY disciple or sincere follower of SP could turn a blind eye to this literally bewilders me.   The number one duty of the GBC is to Execute the instructions SP gave,     the GBC clearly are no longer doing their duty         

So,  what you can do?  I don't know,  all I know is this is WRONG   and in my view means that the GBC is not just Useless and Worthless, but, they are KNOWINGLY DESTROYING my Guru's Mission,      because they are showing a total disregard for SP's written instructions.  They are trampling right over his words,  as if they mean absolutely nothing to them.  At least a number of them are doing this   and the others     they are sitting silently watching   and doing nothing.   And, the other senior leaders, like the sannyasis,  same thing.   They are told and made aware of the offensive actions of this GBC   and they Do Nothing. Say Nothing,  look the other way    hoping that devotees like me go away and stop making waves.   So  devotees like you are also implicated in the offenses of trampling over Srila Prabhupad's words, his instructions,    because you are told what is going on, and chose to DO Nothing.   

At least that is what it appears,  since I sent my first email about this to the NA GBC members a month ago, and got no reply,  and now sent the second one to full GBC and Sannyasis,      and the only reply I got so far is from one Sannyasi,  yourself, who only says my email was too detailed    so you can't help.    

SP's words, his intructions how HE wanted HIS temples to be managed is thrown down on the ground, disrespected, not honored,  and the only action you care to take is to complain that the messengers message was too detailed. 

ys ameyatma das


HpS - ASA - Esteemed Ameyatma Das,

AgtSP, Paoho. I read the whole letter and it is a little more focused. I was getting 500 letters a month. I do not have many Secretaries like Srila Prabhupada. I am a different kind of person that he is. He has told me that that is O.K.

I tend to manage a small pioneering group of devotees, and then can deal with many, many letters that I was getting from persons and situations who I don't know well in a general sense, like in this Blog, and when the general details are worked out, if specific private dialog is necessary then it can be done.

I read your letter, now you read mine. I understand you a little bit better, now you please understand me a little bit better. Let us develop our Sadhu sanga before we deal with the details of the institution. My letter is at: https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/12591/. I hope it shows that I don't ignore institutional problems and I could make some very specific comments about your points in your letter, but I need to base our relationship on Sadhu sanga rather than VAD or administrative relations.


Following that, Srila Prabhupada says in writing, in NOI: "In this verse Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī advises the devotee to be intelligent enough to distinguish between the kaniṣṭha-adhikārīmadhyama-adhikārī and uttama-adhikārī. The devotee should also know his own position and should not try to imitate a devotee situated on a higher platform. (https://vedabase.io/en/library/noi/5/#bb5954 )


So what is your situation. I am chanting my rounds, up for full morning program with 35-45 devotees daily, four principles, so I think I can say that I am up to the Madhyama adhikari position, at least.

How about you, Sir?

Rounds, principles, Mangala arati/SB class?

Thank you.