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Hk pamho querido Guru Maharaja, respecto de los candidatos de segunda iniciación, comparto la siguiente reflexión, para ser tomada en cuenta por los candidatos.

Se toma la segunda iniciación por status?, por necesidad administrativa, por la cantidad de servicio, por cantidad de años en CK? ¿Por qué?

Si soy futuro candidato a segunda iniciación, y a la vez, he pasado por alto a otros que desde algún tiempo atrás, cantan los mantras…eso también debería tomarse en cuenta.

Un sabio dijo: Dale un puesto a alguien y vas a probar su carácter.

Observo en el carácter de algunos devotos neófitos que sólo consideran al Guru-Administrador-Deidad-adeptos. Eso me preocupa, porque como movimiento de prédica, la asociación es muy importante y la familia espiritual también. Mucha gente inspirada por los tratos entre la familia espiritual, acepta a un maestro espiritual o se aleja del movimiento. Pero si en la familia hay rencor, hipocresía…¿Snif!

En una clase un maestro explicó: A las personas que saludamos por primera vez es muy agradable esa experiencia, (pensé como en la distribución de libros en las calles)…porque no hay envidia...

No puedo hablar de mi experiencia con algunos de los candidatos a segunda, pues las escrituras mencionan que uno no debe protestar si se le ofende, si puedo mencionar de la frustración de persona que fueron maltratadas, no sólo hay maltratado cuando se le grita, se les golpea, se le desprestigia, sino cuando se le ignora. 

De todos en el VAD, los brahmanas son los que más me atraen, por su cualidad de perdón, compasión, amor al prójimo, limpieza, etc. Falta mucho por purificar Gurudeva…

Trabajo desde los 16 años en muchas empresas, que me enseñaron que un verdadero líder delega y es feliz cuando los demás tienen su realización, éxito en su servicio. Krsna da el ejemplo, Él se siente más feliz cuando sus devotos son glorificados, que cuando a Él lo glorifican.

Así que espero que los futuros brahmanas no le sonrían sólo al Guru, al administrador, que muestren respeto debido por todos, sin distinción de ninguna clase. Por el bien de nuestro movimiento.

Gurudeva, por favor tengo una duda, un requisito para segunda iniciación es el BS, ¿Todos los candidatos reúnen ese requisito?

¡Todas la glorias a los discípulos de HpS! ¡A la virtuosa familia ASA!

¡Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!

Su hija que lo adora:

Yugala Kisora Dasi. (El exterminador, digo El Examinador)

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HK, Pamho, dear Guru Maharaja, regarding the second initiation candidates, I share the following reflection, to be taken into account by the candidates.

Is the second initiation taken by status?, by administrative necessity, by the amount of service, by number of years in CK? Why?

HpS - It is and indication from the Spiritual Master that the disciple has become fixed in the mode of goodness in their service. For Brahmans, Ksatriyas and higher class Vaisyas.🐄

If I am a future candidate for the second initiation, and at the same time, I have overlooked others who have been chanting the mantras for some time... that should also be taken into account.

HpS - No, if they are in China and we are in Paraguay. -[;0]/\___

A wise man said: Give someone a position and you will test his character.

Abraham Lincoln, but he suggested money and position.

I observe in the character of some neophyte devotees that they only consider the Guru-Administrator-Deity-adepts. That worries me, because as a preaching movement, the association is very important and the spiritual family too. Many people, inspired by dealings within the spiritual family, accept a spiritual teacher or walk away from the movement. But if there is rancor, hypocrisy in the family… Sniff!

HpS - Yes, but Srila Prabhupada is always sitting on his Vyasa asana ready to give association to friendly people.

In a class a teacher explained: For the people we greet for the first time, that experience is very pleasant, (I thought like in the distribution of books in the streets)...because there is no envy...

I cannot speak about my experience with some of the candidates for the second, because the scriptures mention that one should not protest if they are offended, if I can mention the frustration of people who were mistreated, not only are they mistreated when they are yelled at, they he hits them, he is discredited, but when he is ignored.

Of all in the VAD, the brahmanas are the ones that attract me the most, for their quality of forgiveness, compassion, love of neighbor, cleanliness, etc. Much remains to be purified Gurudeva...

I have been working since I was 16 years old in many companies, which taught me that a true leader delegates and is happy when others have their accomplishment, success in their service. Krsna gives the example, He feels happier when His devotees are glorified than when He is glorified.

So I hope that the future brahmanas will not smile only at the Guru, at the administrator, but will show due respect to everyone, without distinction of any kind. For the good of our movement.

Gurudeva, please I have a question, a requirement for second initiation is BS, do all candidates meet that requirement?

HpS - Not officially in ISKCON. Especially not for Vaisya type people. Karuna K. Das is giving them all the Brahminical test of 50-questions that supposed to have come from Sriman Harikesa Das yatra and must pass disciple course, and be following regulative principles for long time and up early ... Is initiation, beginning. Then....

All glories to the HpS disciples! To the virtuous ASA family!

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

His daughter who adores him:

Yugala Kisora ​​Dasi. (The exterminator, I say The Examiner)

ASA - Thank you "E"... 🙂

What was the level of freedom of the "E" release from lust, anger and greed whe taking second initiation? Has made progress? Some faults still challenge?



HARE KRISHNA Mi querido Gurudev.

Reciba Ud. mis reverencias a sus pies de loto. Y En atención a su amable respuesta sobre mi segunda iniciación acatare todas sus órdenes e indicaciones asimismo tengo a bien enviarle por este medio foto de mi Diploma del Curso GURU DISCIPULO, así como otros cursos realizados en Iskcon Perú. Nuevamente infinitas gracias de todo corazón y espero conversar con Ud. Personalmente en la fecha que Ud. Señale. Disculpe Ud. Mi lenguaje formal con que le escribo mi Gurudeva.

HpS - Ya falta solamente hablar de unos detalles. Esperamos conectar for el tele fono! 📞

Hare Krsna Dear Maharaja and ASA team,

Please accept my humble and obeissances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Here I present my summary:

SBG PRESENTATION SUMMARY 3.22.10-11 Monday, January 24, 2022

The marriage between Kardama Muni and Devahuti

Topic: Process of how a lady accepts a husband.

Introduction:

Svayambhuva Manu has come before Kardama Muni to offer his daughter Princess Devahuti in marriage and here he presents the reasons why Kardama Muni should accept his daughter as his wife.

In these 2 verses the information we receive is brief and concise, and from Srila Prabhupada's side we can see more details and topics.

Within the topics that we find 6 in total there are 3 topics that call our attention:

1.-The Recommendation: applies both for a lady to accept a candidate as a future husband as well as for a lady to be accepted as a wife.

The recommendation is made by authorities, based on hearing and is issued by an authority in this case who recommends Kardama to Devahuti is Narada Muni and who recommends Devahuti to Kardama is another authority Svayambhuva Manu.

Here there is a contrast to the current era where we give more value to direct experience even when choosing the future husband, we want to see him, meet him, hear him even fall in love and then see the subject of marriage (this is something dangerous for a lady considering that not always a relationship leads to marriage).

On the other hand, the recommendation is something still used today, if we want to hire the services of a person who has to work in our homes, we ask for a recommendation or for an acquaintance or friend to recommend it to us, it is interesting how we ask for a recommendation for someone who would come to work in our house but not for someone who would come into our life.

2.-Requirements to accept a husband:

In text 10 the values ​​or requirements that Devahuti consider to choose Kardama Muni are mentioned and they are:

-Noble character, erudition, good looks, youth, virtues.

And based on the requirements that one considers most important one can distinguish whether one is a grhamedhi or a grhastha, if for example one values ​​beauty, fame and/or youth more then you are more on the side of a grhamedhi.

Srila Prabhupada mentions in the text 11 very deep reflections on the grhastha ashrama, briefly explains the difference between a grhamedhi and a grhastha and makes us notice that the grhastha ashrama is a spiritual order and not an option to indulge the senses, it must be understood that a practitioner of a spiritual process should gradually decrease sense gratification and that the entire Varna ashrama focuses on this, therefore the grhastha ashrama is a spiritual order whose aim is to advance spiritually together with the family. Ashrama that allows you to advance more gradually than other ashramas.

One must enter the grhastha ashrama prepared and one must cultivate qualities and values ​​such as these 5 requirements, in order to contribute within the ashrama and also request them from her future husband.

In fact important details also to consider are:

- The ideals of a husband that one has (this comes from culture, family, from the time we live in etc) that many times we insert into our consciousness of krsna and we have our own perception of what a devotee with sadhana and devotion is .

Ejm: We can call a sadhanero a devotee who faithfully worships the deity but does not read or who reads every day and does not complete his chant of japa or in any case chant his rounds, takes care of the rituals but does not get up early.

Also see the tastes and preferences, the devotee may be of a very social trend that loves festivals, sports, being fashionable or only certain areas of service and the devotee (she) thinks: oh I can change it! As there are no common points, communication is lost

Case: Devotee marries a devotee who is highly appreciated by the community, has a good reputation, is a very good donor and cares about the deities, he is noted to be very devoted to the deities and when they get married the devotee gets up very early but to doing exercises, listening to bhajan all day but not finishing the rounds. She believed that he was devotional and sadhanero, she now doubts it and for him what he does is fine.

-Another detail is to understand that maturity between men and women is different both in time and in concept, and there is also spiritual maturity.

It is natural for a woman to accept an older man because men mature psychologically more slowly and there are different understandings of what maturity is: for men, maturity is working and being independent, and for women, maturity is accepting a long-term commitment.

And spiritual maturity begins when we understand that Krsna is the supreme controller, and the supreme enjoyer, very difficult to enter grhastha when these concepts are not clear.

In most cases we enter marriage immaturely because we are taught that the child, the young should enjoy and only the old should mature, maturity is not understood as a process that is cultivated from an early age.

This is why it is a challenge for Krsna Consciousness to break this misconception and teach its members from early childhood to embrace austerity as part of their maturing process.

-Age and misconceptions, it's not the same whether a 20-year-old lady who is expecting a charming prince marries, or a 30-year-old who usually already wants children, or a 40-year-old who mainly wants a partner, they have different perspectives what they expect from marriage. Within the Vedic culture, importance was given to age due to the issue of spiritual objectives to be developed. It was taken care to marry at an early age because it takes a lot of energy to be able to take care and guide the children and also when the father of the family took sannyas he could still have energy to travel and give all the experience he has obtained in his life as a brahmacari and grhastha. .

Practitioners of a spiritual process must be careful not to have misconceptions of what marriage is and our role if we choose to enter this Ashram. We are not princesses and even though Devahuti was a princess, it was clear to her that her role was to serve her husband and family.

Point to keep in mind is that marriage is not to please the senses, it is an austerity, which is why today many people in Europe and other places reject it or divorce shortly after marriage, even couples who get married do not want to have children because they consider that it is a lot of sacrifice and it is true that marriage is austerity and sacrifice and the devotees accept it as an austerity for Krsna since the grhastha ashrama is where the future brahmacaris, sannyasis, leaders etc. come out.

3.-Dharma of a father regarding his daughters.

In this aspect we quote Canakya pandit who mentions: "You should never marry your daughter with a sick, poor, infamous and uneducated"

"Accept a wife, if she is good even if she comes from a lower class family."

This leads us to reflection: What do you want for your daughter? What does your daughter want for herself?

The duty of a father is to see these aspects and above all to cultivate the character of the daughter, so that she develops skills and qualities so that she is suitable for a good husband or so that she makes good decisions and always seeks her spiritual advancement.

Ejm: The pastime of the deity of Saksi Gopal and the 2 brahmanas illustrates this for us, the elder brahmana found a young and highly qualified brahmana though poor, and saw an opportunity to give his daughter a good husband and win a good member for him family.

CONCLUSION

We can say that the marriage itself tends to fail because if you are a grhamedhi who seeks to please the senses, then you will separate because to please yourself you will seek the variety of couples. And if you are a person who seeks spiritual advancement for a grhastha and you see that your partner does not advance or does not want to advance, then you will also separate.

So why do we get married?

Basically in most cases for 2 reasons:

1.-To have children: Success consists in having good children. In Vedic culture it is mentioned that good sons will save you from the cycle of reincarnation.

2.- Feel complete: biologically, psychologically we need someone to share and relate to.

Let's remember:

The grhastha ashrama is very important and we can take as a reference the life of Sri Caitanya who was married twice and gave us his example of the ideal devotee and how his whole life is focused on service and both his mother and his wives supported from their position the Sri Chaitanya's mission.

This ashrama is an essential part of the spiritual process. Most are getting married and we must enter seriously prepared, as when one prepares to take both the first and second initiations. Vows are also made and commitments are made.

Both must be qualified, husband and wife, we cannot expect only the husband to be advanced. Princess Devahuti was of the same qualification as Kardama Muni and both husband and wife attend to different aspects within the family and must be prepared to assume these responsibilities.

Always remember that the grhastha ashram has a mission both individually and collectively, individually a grhastha devotee must advance and collectively this ashram has a duty within ISKCON. Search How do I contribute as a grhastha? How do I help in Srila Prabhupada's mission? These are constant questions that one must ask. And this also helps us to see how to focus and not lose track of our spiritual development.

Thans a lot for sharing your achievements whit us

jay Nrsimhadeva Bhagavan Jay Sita Ram Laksmana Hanuman!

whit affection

ys Isvari R dd

HpS - ASA - AGTSP paoho. We read the first part of this summary and it seems as fine as the audio presentation, which we could not fully appreciate because of the language barrier. We will try to appreciate it more later!

Thank you very much.

Hearing, understanding and taking to heart the pastimes in Srimad Bhagavatam will lift us to become preachers on the same level as Narada Muni.

T.L.G.A.S.P.

Nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhu-tale srimate Hanumatpresaka-svamin iti namine.

Querido Guru Maharaja:

Enterados de su viaje a India este proximo 1 de Octubre del presente año, formamos una delegacion de 13 devotos para poder acompañarlo a Calcuta, Manipur y Vrindavam, a fin de poder comprar los pasajes y poder coincidir con su itinerario, por favor nos gustaria saber fechas y tiempo de estadia en los diferentes lugares que visitara a fin de poder hacer coincidir nuestras reservaciones con la de usted.

Agradecido de antemano por su deferencia me despido muy cordialmente.

Atte. Su humilde y eterno sirviente a sus pies de loto, nacimiento tras nacimiento Jiyada Nrsmha dasa.

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T.L.G.A.S.P.

Nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhu-tale srimate Hanumatpresaka-svamin iti namine.

Dear Guru Maharaja,

Aware of your trip to India this coming October 1 of this year, we formed a delegation of 13 devotees to be able to accompany you to Calcutta, Manipur and Vrindavam, in order to be able to buy the tickets and be able to coincide with your itinerary, please we would like to know dates and time of stay in the different places you will visit in order to match our reservations with yours.

Thanking you in advance for your courtesy, I cordially say goodbye.

Atte. His humble and eternal servant at his lotus feet, birth after birth Jiyada Nrsmha dasa. 

HpS - ASA - AGTSP!! paoho. Not trying to be absurd, but we often consider our life breath by breath now. We are always trying to make the Calendar in the Kapi Dhvaja complete from a broad perspective and also in practical detail.

Our rough plan is to be in Spain from 15th July until October first.

The last week of October friends and family from South America may join us and pursue their own work in Spain. Then they would spend three weeks in India: Kolkata, Manipur, (Delhi) Braja.

That is the rough plan.

Of course, it depends on health. Global political and health situations etc.

We have tickets up to the 17th of April and then we hope to investigate the tickets to Madrid 15th July and those on to India starting as soon as possible.

Will we have any trouble as USA citizens traveling to Spain and then leaving for India?

Thank you.

Hare Krishna, Dear Gurudeva!

All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to you.

Please accept our humble obeisances.

As of every two weeks:

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Hare Krsna!!!

This is our last week of holidays. It seems we will have face-to-face classes 3 times a week and online classes twice a week. But I need to see if I, particularly, can do that or not since I

take immunosuppressive pills.

Today we had my blood tests and within two weeks I will have my appointment. Let see how the results turn out. Family is ok. Since the beginning of this year, we all are taking morning walks. I chant rounds and my mother and my sister pray the rosary.

Thanks a lot for all your help and patience.

EDT (Patrak das & Antuanette)

HpS - ASA --- 🙂 🙂 🙂 https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/18/76/. Remember Krsna??? He is very wonderful!!!

Thank you!!!!

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Hare Krishna, Gurudeva! 🙏🏻

Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet!

ASA - Apple feet.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

ASA - !!

This is the monthly schedule of devotees for leading kirtan on "Full Morning Program":

MONDAY: H. H. Hanumatpresaka Swami.

TUESDAY: Mitravinda devi dasi.

ASA - She is sharing with Jagad-guru Das.

WEDNESDAY: Yugala Kishora dasi.

THURSDAY: Tarangaksi devi dasi, Apsara Gopi devi dasi.

FRIDAY: Panca Tattva Das.

SATURDAY: Abhinanda das, Isvari Radha devi dasi, Karuna Sakti devi dasi.

SUNDAY: Candramukhi devi dasi,, Isvari Radha devi dasi, Parasurama Avatara das.

I am sending this monthly schedule on Dvadasi as you recommended me.

On the last Kapi Dhvaja you have mentioned: "May be nice if some local, Ashokavan devotees lead on more days while we are here".

Gurudeva, if Jagad Guru das agrees I can share Tuesdays with him.

So, he can also lead the kirtan from New Asoka Van those days. I will ask him.

Thank you very much for your attention! 🙏🏻

HARE KRISHNA!!!

ASA - All leaders should be regular Mangala arati participants, and if the bandwidth allows share there screens, no? Also, should learn the word by world meanings. Other wise it sounds funny sometimes!

Thank you everyone!!!