AgtSP
Paoho
We are camped at Iskcon-New Vraja Mandala until 22nd January.
Our health is fine.
We are chanting Maha-mantras and They are editing DTC-Spain etc.
Details attached.
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T. Brown / B. White
NOTE: Blog address is www.monkeywarrior.com not monkeywarior.com
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[1/28, 12:48 PM] Basu Ghosh Das: 1. Bhakti Vikas Swami has advocated that all sides sit together at Mayapur, chant together in kirtan, and discuss the issue face to face. That hasn't happened.
2. ISKCON sannyasis aren't sannyasis strictly according to varnashram principles. Sannyas was given by Srila Prabhupada as a "preaching title", to facilitate preaching, but sure, strict standards of behavior and detachment from women were mandated. Unfortunately all sannyasis and diksha gurus were not able to strictly follow. In recent years, due to stricter regimen for screening sannyas candidates, the "fall down rate" as decreased considerably. There are a number of "discontents" who will never stop criticizing ISKCON and its leaders. This doesn't mean that all ISKCON leaders are "perfect and pure". It is particularly disturbing that so many are propagating gender equality and egalitarianism in ISKCON. A godbrother recently wrote to me:
It seems that you keep up with the news in the US, so I am sure you see the similarities between what's going on in ISKCON and western society. I believe it is because we are associating too closely with mundane culture since so many devotees have moved from the temples. With a lack of sadhana we become contaminated by that association, however we still want to be devotees so we adjust our philosophy to fit western culture. You heard Garuda Prabhu say he could never agree to anything less than the "ultimate Bhakti" and he is not the only one.
Around 15 years ago they tried to cancel me in Prabhupada VIllage, NC because I pointed out that there were two kinds of people in the world, men and women, and they had different roles to play in a Krsna centered culture. Didn't Srila Prabhupada say we should not try to become Sukadeva Goswami without attaining his level of consciousness?
[1/28, 12:51 PM] Basu Ghosh Das: 3. ISKCON India and its bureaucracy and influences.
Well, in India ISKCON has no women in managerial positions. No TPs, GBCs, etc. Bur sure, I am a grihasta, and there are a number of other grihastas in the management. In fact, sannyasis ideally should just preach, and not manage - but the reality is that some of them are in the management. Some of them won't retire from management duties, even if they are physically unfit to perform them!
[1/28, 12:54 PM] Basu Ghosh Das: Yes, in my article I did not deal with the honorific significance of "Mataji". That would be a good subject to highlight in an essay, for sure. I will seriously consider writing on that topic at the earliest!
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[1/28, 2:19 PM] HPSwami - ProfHHR: I was living as a Vanaprastha, B'cari, when I joined the Temple in San Francisco.
After ten years Hansadutta Das pushed several of us to take Sannyasa. I explained that I thought it was a kind of oxymoron because rather than being renounced of name and fame, you had to accept more.
He pushed and I accepted.
Then he fell down and GBC said that anyone who had taken Sannyasa from him in his big rush could continue with it if they accepted an ISKCON Guru as their Sannyasa guru.
I accepted that I could just return to the rather obscure position of B'cari ashrama, but Trikrama Swami, B. S. Damodara Swami, Ramesvara Swami, Tripurari Swami and Atreya Rsi Das all said, "No!
You've taken the vows. You stick with it!"
O.K.
Got 'reinitiated' into Sannyasa by H. H. B. S. Damodara Swami, my esteemed Sannyasa Guru.
Then... I experienced Kuti chaka, Bahudak, Parivrajak etc.
It came naturally.
First, I was living in one small loft room in a warehouse rented by the Temple and preaching and attending Temple programs and taking Prasadam and waking Deities and doing Mangala arati, but the Temple President still put pressure on me to use my Sannyasa status to support his political agendas since I was 'living' in his Temple.
So, I started staying with different devotees around the S.F. Bay Area, then Northern Califorinia, even passing nights under the bushes by the side of the road if that was not easily available.
Then I could still feel I was expectied to pull the Zonal line if I was getting shelter from people in the specific GBC's Zone.
So, with some fear I took off on a ride offered by Krsna to Seattle and Vancouver and did local preaching and worked to develop the visit of our Manipuri Troupe.
It was amazing.
Krsna seemed to be arranging transporation, accomodation and Sankirtan.
Came back thorugh the Bay Area but now as a new Parivrajakacharya preacher. Who had some seriouis conviction that Krsna really is guiding us and really does want the Kali yuga version of Sannyasa.
Other steps fit right into this Vedic pattern until I finally went all the way to Peru, out of the USA, with only $10 in my pocket, but with an experience that made me feel that it was exactly an arrangement of Krsna to show me that I should not waste "my mind and intelligence" thinking about this bodily maintenence. That was His job. I should focus on just traveling and peaching and realizing His guidance of Paramatma.
Seems that some people have taken Sannyasa vows, or think that their B'cari life is the same as a full Sannyasa, but are still taking subtle shelter, freedom from fear of being alone, of husband and wife, or mother, to be free of the political control/shelter of ISKCON.
Giving up these things they can really give unbiased advice.
Then they really become the essential shelter that Ksatriyas and Vaishyas need for subtle sense control. Stronger than the Ks. and Vaishya.
My hallucinations.
Thank you for your association.
Hope to hear more from you soon.
AGTSP!
paoho/bw
We can meditate on Krsna-lila, pastimes of different avataras, for purification and inspiration, perspective, in realizing our actual serivce.
What about Jambavan in the Sundar kanda?
We hear about Mother Urmila Devi, Sri Laksmana's esteemed consort, Sita, Kaukeyi... but what about the wife of Jambavan? Was he Brahmacari his whole life.
Was he in Vanaprastha stage?
How did he get included in the party with Angada and Hanuman?
Maybe Bala-bhadra Das can look in his copy of the 'Puranic Enclopedia' and give us to news.
Hare Krishna, Dear Gurudeva!
Happy Lunar New Year!
All glories to Srila Prabhupada and All glories to you.
Please accept our humble obeisances. (PAOHO)
As of every two weeks:
* Bulletin is now upload on Facebook (English & Spanish), it is also in Google Groups (English & Spanish) as listed at: http://www.jayarama.us/hello.htm
Hare Krishna.
Hope U are going well.
We are working on keeping 16R, 4AM, 4P. Reading SB everyday. We used to read on our mobile, but this year we are using our book, so we can take some notes or questions. Your PdP work helps a lot.
Health is ok.
Next week I will start working in the school. This year I continue with my 2 groups (2nd and 8th grade)
HPS==>See you soon?
Ptrk==> We really hope so
Your aspirant servants
EDT (Patrak das & Antuanette)
HpS - Thank you. Hope you are feeling aspirations to become personal servants of Lord Chatanya in Sridhama Mayapura!
Thank you for translation.
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Please give us advice on how to improve this Sankirtan Bulletin and our Sankirtan.
Hope your Krsna consciousness is communicated very deeply to your students!
Hope Antuanette and baby and family are fully initiated into Krsna consciousness!
We are suffering some allergy reaction after arriving in Delhi yesterday!
The air contaminatin here is incredible!
We are physically depleted because of this intense Northeast India tour and so reactions to the air contamination has been intense.
No doubt that this body is near its disintegration.
Maybe we will see you in Mexico.
Maybe we can have teleconference between Kids in Mexico and Kids in Peru and they can make lifelong friendships.
Kapi Dhvaja
2023 January 22
Amavasya
We are sitting in Pechartala, Tripura, India.
It (the location of the Sun) is 9.06AM.
Little cold.
Simple village compoud of Vijaya-govinda Das, traveling with H. H. Haridas Swami's Sankirtan party.
Like three intense programs and up to five hours of travel on
rough, ROUGH, R o U gH roads daily, but very nice audiences.
How are you?
We are keeping the Blog up to date: www.MonkeyWarrior.Com.
Write us there.
Of course, we Tweet the Sankirtan news every hour as necessary:
www.Twitter.Com "huber_robinson".
Our health is pretty good.
Our inflamed Belly-button has cleared up a little.
Eyes and everything are good for 75-year of donkey, but vertigo, hearing loss etc are part of our daily functioning.
On the other side of material life, duality, our intelligence is maturing.
Die as soon as possible.
Let Krsna keep you here in a spiritualized body or take you back to Goloka as he desires.
HK//HR
Pablo, ArtD, HpS, Raul, Sridhama, Ananta rupa Das, finished the DTC-UT (US) like 90%. Little more work to do.
No news in the Blog from ArtD et al about 'Solaris' or their DTC-UT report.
Also, no copy of the Board of Director's meeting that we had while we were in Bombay!
WARNING:
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The Supreme Absolute Undifferentiated ASA Commando will Suspend NIOS as affiliates of ASA unless they appear in the Blog by the next Kapi Dhavja.
Writing this on our portable key board on our cell phone.
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Hk///HR
CALENDAR
Tomorrow we go to Agartala and then Tuesday fly to Delhi for two nights.
Then Spain for a month.
Hope to finish DTC-UT {Spain} with Ambaris and V.Bh.N DD then.
Feb 22 - Mar 4th in Houston with Saranga, Srinivasa, Sugopis, Gopi natha...
Mar 4 - Apr 3 in Mexico (Montery and Mexico City).
After that we have no tickets but expect to stay in Nashville and Houston until maybe August.
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Looking a Monkey's paper DTC for the last two weeks (and they are getting better and more pretty).
Inn Mumbai we visited with GBC Govinda Das and Sumanta rudra in Bombay about NIOS/BRC, and also Sumanta took us to meet everyone at the Department of Philosophy of Bombay University, who are giving the Sanskrita diplomas for BRC.
Talked with Subhadra, Varun, Rama-giridhari, Gauranga-darshana and then... to Manipura.
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Thousands of Temple programs, initiations, Sadhubhusana, Vana-maili, Sarad, Yamunesvara...!..! .. Symposium on LOB at the Temple and big Univesity.
Was on television the night after.
Many very mature contacts for practical work with NIOS.
(If we get the Minutes of the last Board Meeting).
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Then, this whirlwind tour with Hari Das Swami.
This Bhakti yoga of Srila Prabhupada is so, so authentic.
Our body-mind could not be doing this at 75-years old only because of years of Srila Prabhupada's Yoga.
Dhruva and Subhadra are wonderful association.
16-nice rounds and Mangala arti daily.
O.K.
I guess that is the best we can do with the communication resources we have.
Maybe visit the "Sukalaya" one more time before we go down the sunlit pathway shaded by palm trees to get into the jeep to go to the picnic with disciples and visit two homes on the way.
See you in the Blog.
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PPP - In a broad sense Tom and Buck are thinking that we have arrived at the third stage of ISKCON
So, now the challege is not to duck but to stand up with real examples and real information.
Srila Prabhupada's idea is that the GBC should be Grhastas and Vanaprashtas. Let's not institutionalize the emergency management.
Then GBC should take Sannyasa and also have their duties.
Seems some devotees take Sannyasa but do not get beyond Kutichaka and remain attacked to certain Temples (as Presidents or GBC, or cooks) and the few (quality) possesions of Sannyasis.
GBC should be ultimate managing authority but Sannyasis should be the ultimate spiritual authorites.
Big challenge.
If we cannot give that example, O.K. let people know we have short comings, but we are On The Job!
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pamho, AGtSP!
Back in the Raja jungle of the USA. A humble reoffering as time permits.
Re posted my Report in the right format & location now, such as it is.
Here's the pre-amble/ intro, verbatim at the actual VP (microphone was not in synch):
" Well, seems Maharaja's austerities are rubbing off, we've been here 5 days and haven't even shopped at Loi Bazaar. As you all may see, I am one of Maharaja's less scholastic disciples, regardless let continue with the Vyasa Puja!"
Thank you again for your mercy & tolerance.
HpS - Thank you. I think your mind is merging in transcendence, then you will see that everything is a part of the kingdom of God and walk freely between the prison and the factory and the theater with Krsna.