Letters to the editor

hare krsna 

agtsp 

all glories to you guru deva.

all glories to all the vaisnavas and devotees of gaura hari.

we were arrive two weeks before from Vrindavana. now in Buenos Aires.  the last days in Vrindvana we were with Vrisabhanu Nandini in Varsana in the Japa Retreat of H.H Sacinandana Swami and H.G Bhurijana Prabhu. was very nice and help to improve my chanting and realation with Namaprabhu and be more careful and conciouss of sambhanda, relationship with the holy name.

               HpS - ASA - Jaya!!!!    AGTSP....   (((paoho))) ....   If we improve our 16-rounds minimum then our Sankirtan, preaching, administration, family relations, money ...   will all improve maravelously. These are our essential service to Krsna by the media of Srila Prabhupada!!!     We try to follow in your footsteps.

...now we are in Bs As finishing the 60 programs of Mayapur Dham for the Tamil Nadu TV, that would be spend like 3 mounth to finish, and generates some anxiety to finishing on time.  Then we will travel to Cordoba and help to open a preaching center in Huerta Grande, and other in las Termas in Santiago del Estero, in the north of the country.  Also we have to find some land problably  more in the north like Salta, Tucuman. that s the plan to star the comunity proyect with turism development, spa, organic agriculture, and studies program, seminars. One proposes and God Disposes!

              HpS -  Ooof!  Open three centers!     With whom?      1) Who am I, what is my nature and assignment?  2)   Who are we, what is my relationship with other people who have answered question "1)" like me?     3) What is the plan, based on 1) and 2),       3) What things do we need to do the plan?         What you have descrivbed is "2 and 3", no?                  "1 and 2"  are clear?      Preaching center depends on the response of the people.  They have free-will.  We can be pure and look for the innocent people that Krsna sends, no?

....if we are following your desire to engege us in service i m sure that we can have succes, Krsna do the magic only we have to be available to participate.

    HpS - Hmmm!    Seems nice to us, but that is your plan and your things, land, but who will do it?    Has Krsna asked you to do this through the Vaisnavas and especially Prabhupada's books?   Jaya!

thank you guru deve we depend of your mercy

             AGTSP!!!   paoho

....there are a few serious devotees who want to participate in these. also i m trayin to engage persons to help to develop these proyect. step by step.

             Ah!   Our questions already answered, but it seems you are the only leader????   Any partners who share your vision? ?

... like a year ago we started doing some interviews to diferent devotees in spain, india, etc who were in the begining of the hare krsna movement in argentina. so we have the proyect to do a documentary of the histoty of the hare krsna movement in Argentina in paralel of the history in argentina from the 60 to now a days. the idea it s to present for the peaople in general a madure view of a espiritual movement and in a human way with his problem and virtues. becouse seen the visioon and realizationof each devotees like a person could be very atractive. what do you think?

            HpS -  Again, 1, 2, 3 & 4   but it sounds very nice!!!    Seems to our stupid self that you should make a picture of your audience. Give him a name and write a little biography of him.

...my sadhana same day very good some day wake up after mangala arati and lose my first gayatri. other days my japa its better and a fell conection by atention and praying please Radha, Hare take me out of here i forgot my identity please put me in a place  with your servant.

but i m not fix and my create interference with the heart. 

thank you guru deva, to be patience with me .

traying to became your servant Ambarisa M Das

              HpS -  Let's work,   work,   work on getting up early  and getting the Japa done early and Mangala-arati!!  Maybe less results but we won't fall down.

Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada y a su sankirtana eterno

Hare Krsna querido Gurudev, reportándome nuevamente, estoy levantándome a las 3 am y esforzándome por cantar 8 rondas antes de entrar al puyari, le cuento que nosotros hemos regresado a la cocina del puyari, hay probabilidad de que nos quedemos un año en Chosica, los planes de sankirtana viajero se han postergado nuevamente, es curioso a pesar que hicimos de todo para viajar no pudimos viajar, pues hubo muchos obstáculos, quizá nuestra mente  o quizá el lugar y circunstancia y a última hora se cambió planes para quedarse en la cocina, pues yo no soy un cocinero experto ni mucho menos tengo buena sazón pero ahí estamos ahora las deidades nos dieron otra oportunidad, no controlamos nada.

En horas libres trato de hacer un poco de distribución de libros en chosica con algunas devotas del Cuzco, hay nuevos títulos; La luz del Bhagavata pequeño, canta el mantra hare Krsna con George Harrison, La vida proviene de la vida, bhagavad gita poket, La ciencia del autoconocimiento, La ciencia de la autorrealización y otros.

            ASA - ! !    !        !!!

Esforzándonos por Cantar 16 rondas, 4 principios y Mangal Artik, las deidades de casa están siendo atendidas, todos los días las levantamos y algunos días las baño y cocino algo para ellas, el servicio en la cocina es hasta medio día y con la probabilidad de que nos dén un día de descanso, al menos ya no es tan agotador como era al inicio,  estámos tratando de exterminar a las cucarachas con limpieza y un poco de insecticida, es divertido y entretenido limpiar la cocina como dice P. Gadai, hemos empezado a tener un cariño muy lindo a Radha Madhana Vihari que no queremos separarnos nunca de ellas, son tan misericordiosas conmigo porque yo no soy un buen cocinero y hasta ahora no entiendo porque estoy en la cocina, pero voy a intentar  cocinarles rico para ellas, estoy aprendiendo con los devotos una que otra preparación.

Bueno no le quito más tiempo, desde aquí un abrazo lo queremos mucho, esperamos verlo pronto de nuevo y perdone por nuestras ofensas.

Atte. Nadiya Nivasi Dasi.

         ASA - TlgaSP...  Por favor accepta nuestras reverencias humildes. Es muy curioso que Vds no puede salir y Prabhu Laksmana ha ido.  Posible Krsna, Senor Caitanya, Sacimata, es muy atenta a todo lo que pasa.
Krsna no necisita cosas muy complicados. Tiene que cocinar como Krsna es su hijo.

FIRST LETTER GET DISORGANIZED!!! I`m sorry Gurudeva... Hopefully this gets all right....

     ASA - AGTSP  paoho.  We skipped the first letter.

All Glories to Sri sri Gouranga Nityananda
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada
All Glories to Hanumat Presaka Swami!!

             ASA---  Oink!    Oink!!

Please accept my most humble obeisance 

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaja. Again, Ignacio. I`m writing to send you the vision and mission for NIMSAR and also the objectvies of Bhakti-sadacara. Here it is:

1) VISION:

 a) About Contents:
      i) Build a solid basis of the philosophical principles taught in the Gaudiya Vaisnava

          HpS - Philos =   Love,   Sophi = Wisdom.   Same as our tradition, Bhakti, not impersonal Jnana tradition of knowledge.  You want to build a solid basis of principles of love of wisdom from Gaudiya tradition.  So that would be how to chant Hare Krsna, Dance and Honor Prasadam....    Result would be 16 enthusiastic rounds and 4-principles strictly.       You must teach what you know.  Write a Bhakti program that Bhakta Ignacio is realizing!      Very nice.

 b) About teaching:
      i) Focus on generated meaningful learning

ASA -  How will it be generated?  Isn't the teaching meant to generate it???             Meaningful learning.. Learning that is realized?   Learn the recipe for pakoras and then cook them and offer them?

     ii) Adapted to different educational necessities    ASA - Huh?   Foreign language students?
 

    iii) Evolve into depth not only into extensively - ASA - NOI Text Eight talks about this.  First continuous then  concentrated and then deep.        But what do these terms mean...   Hmmm...  more detials needed.  Seems  beyond Bhakta course.  Into Sannyasa candidate.   First is to learn, practice, how to chant sixteen nice rounds daily and follow four principles strictly for six months
 

     iv) To educate people to help in the mission of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
                     ASA - Jaya....  Preface of NOI... Our level.
  c) About learning - ASA - Huh??  About, within, above..?
      i) Gradually growing up in a “spiral learning” of complexity and abstraction

              ASA - Seems nice but better depth and breadth.  Learning the same things but in more detail and practical aplicability.

     ii) Develops students that are academically and praxiologically self-sufficient.   ASA -  What do you mean?  In one sense only God is self-suffiencient.  Your Bhakta program will make people God in (180-days)!  Aaachaa.

 

2) MISSION

 a) About contents
      i) Develops a personal understanding about the philosophical concepts dealt in the books written  
          by A.C. Bhaktivedanta swami
 b) About Teaching
      i) Systematizes programs that respond to different educational necessities
     ii) Improve a based on principles education
 c) About learning
      i) Give tools that allows the students to be self-sufficient in academic and praxeological issues
     ii) Stimulate the student to take responsibility and independence in making decisions on their own
          process.
    iii) Develops enthusiasm, confidence, patient, discipline, healthy relationships, authenticity, self-
          assessment, and value of the Vedic culture

ASA -  Same comments as in the VISION section.   These terms VISION, MISSION, do not seem to be terms in Srila Prabhupada's basic diction.  He uses "Mission of Lord Caitanya in the Preface of NOI.    Seems useul if you focus your work on the Preface of NOI first..  Chant, meditate on it and extract practical principles of a Bhakta Program for Bhakta Ignacio..

3) BHAKTI SADAARA`S  ASA - Sad-achara.   Good character.

OBJETIVES: ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF BHAKTI YOGA

ASA -  At this point we stop because we feel that it is too, too, analytical for our present level of development.  Like in the Preface of NOI Srila Prabhupada mentions Radha-rani, but to what depth.
Write a Program for Bhakti Ignacio that you think will really bring Bhakta Ignacio to the standard of being a Formal Aspirant
 

    i) Create a personal logic about the basic concepts of the Gaudiya vaisnava
      (1) Recognize the principles that  determine the philosophy of the Gaudiya Vaisnava
      (2) Describe the principles of the Gaudiya Vaisnava
      (3) Exemplify the main principles with situations of the daily life.
      (4) Reflect in the impact of these principles
      (5) Apply these principles when solving problems of the daily life situations.

   ii) Produce strategies of self-knowledge
      (1) Identify one´s strengths  and weeknesses to develop devotional service
      (2) Exemplify circumstances that realize these aspects
      (3) Design strategies to turn problems into opportunities to improve devotional life.

  iii) Deconstruct the vision and mission of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
      (1) Describe, analyze and extrapolate the main principles of the vision and mission of Srila
            Prabhupada

Trying to serve you

Ignacio

        ASA - AGTSP    thank you so much.   This is very good effort, but hope that our comments are useful!!   Ur application and then write your results.

HARE KRSNA SU SANTIDAD

PAMHO

AGTSP

BUENO INFORMANDOLE QUERIDO MAHARAJA DESDE NOVO FREBURGO BRASIL QUE LA MARATON DE DICIEMBRE VA MUY BIEN

ASA - Jaya!     TlgaSP!!!

AHORA ESTAMOS EN UN PUEBLO PEQUEÑO DONDE YA SE HAN DISTRIBUIDO MUCHOS LIBROS, ASI Q NUESTRO GRUPO NO HE PODIDO DISTRIBUIR MASIVAMENTE, EL PORTUGUES TAMBIEN NOS HA COSTADO UN POCO DE TRABAJO PERO GRACIAS A SUS BENDICIONES NOS HACEMOS ENTENDER.

LAS RONDAS EN LA MAÑANA SE ME HACEN IMPOSIBLES PORQUE LLEGAMOS A CASA A LAS 12 PM Y ME LEVANTO A LAS 6 O 7 AM ESO HA DAÑADO MI SADDHANA Y SE NOTA EN SANKIRTAN SIN EMBARGO CANTANDO LAS 16 CON ESFURZO Y PARANDO UNA HORA SANKIRTAN  A LEER EL SB.

    ASA - Como yo entiendo Prabhupada era FUERTE en esta punto.  Devotos quedando tarde en Sankirtana y no puede levantar temprano para Japa todo, el castigo los fuerte y dijo, "Tiene que seguir las instrucciones del Maestro espiritual!".     Japa, Japa entusiasta, es es el servicio mas essencial.  Es essencia de su Sankirtana.   Mangala arati, Brahma-muhurta, es un requisito para ser miembro de ISKCON, para participar en la Danza Rasa!

NO HABIA PODIDO ESCRIBIR ANTES PORQUE ANDAMOS A FULL EXTRAÑO JAPA JOE <img alt="" src="http://hps-d6.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/24.gif" title="" />.

TENEMOS UNA META DE 25 MIL LIBROS EL EQUIPO DE SANKIRTAN LATINO, PORFAVOR PERMITAME RESIVIR SUS BENDICIONES.

 MAHA SANKIRTAN DE DICIEMBRE KY JAY!!!<img alt="" src="http://hps-d6.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/22.gif" title="" />

SU SIRVIENTE B. BRIAN TELLEZ 

            ASA -  Jaya!     Primero meta 16-rondas entusiastas, 4-principios estrictos, programa por la manana fuerte y   ...   25,ooo libros!!!!!    Jaya!

All glories to Sri Sri Gouranga Nityananda
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
All glories to Sri Hanumatpresaka Swami

Please accept my most humble obeisance

Hare Krsna Gurudeva, I hope that you are felling stronger and healthier. My name is Ignacio González and I`m from Viña del mar.

            ASA - Jaya!  Ignacio.  We remember you really well.   We are Monkey/Piggy from China!

I want to present you the advances that we have make in the vision and mission of NIMSAR, and also the progress at Bhakti sadacara.This information is in the images, if you want the original file, here is the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sdbme0iypn4br0c/Vision%20%2B%20Mission%20%2B%20Objetvies%202.0.docx

(report: 4 principles for 2 weeks… 16 rounds 3 years. First program at Cinthya´s house this Sunday)

Your lousy servant

Ignacio

                ASA - AGTSP.....  paoho.... Actually "lousy" means one who has many "lice".   Actually the four principles are natural. Krsna never suggests anything unnatural.  Be enthusiastic. Get free from unnatural libations. Be heathy and natural. Nature will reciprocate!

Aaaagh.  We cant look at the attached grafics until we respond to you letter.    Will do that and then apost and edited version.

HpS - AGTSP   paoho.  We posted them and they are still too small.  And  we don't have time to look at the link!  If we do then we won't finish our BhVai work.  Aaaah!

Send verbal summary of your ideas in the next letter are the link to look at them.