Letters to the editor

Hare Krishna Gurumaharaja
Please, accept my humble obeisances
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Gurudeva last time you ask me this  : about the temple programs and the growth over here in Iskcon panama 

HpS - Jaya!  Yes, it is very sad for us when we don't hear from people for a long time.   Who are your associates in Panama?  What are they like???
Temple program, any program, can be Kirtan, Lecture, Kirtan, Prasad!!!  >>>>>  Goloka!!!

My associated in Panama are Prabhu Durmada damana das he is a disciple of HH Guru Prasadad Swami , Palaka Gouranga das he is a disciple of HH Jayapataka swami disciple , Kancani devi dasi  she is a disciple of HH Bhakti Bhusana Swami and few more non devotees or not iniciated devotees .

They are very entusiastic. Palaka gouranga, he lives at the temple always eager to help out, his is a pujari and excellent chef,  Prabhu Durmada damana, he is also a pujari but he is married and he does service 2 o 3 times a week , he likes to give lectures and share krishna conciousness with others. he has hardcore band with krishna conciousness lyrics. thats how i got attracted to the knowledge ,also he likes to coordinate a lot of Harinam .

Kancani devi dasi she studies medicine ,likes a lot of kirtan and is  a strong person with a lot devotion, she also was taking the Bhaktri sastri couse with me  besides them i have more friends .Also i have a few friends Guredeva that arent living here anymore.

Temple program yes there on Saturday there are programs and fridays , i believe on saturday is day of Srimad Bhagavatam , twice a month we have food life its coordinate by Jitu and Manish Prabhu  depending on the localation diferent devotees will help  out. 

Other programs like Conference with univesities is with Prabhu Syama candra he the leader of the conference programs we had 2 or 3 the past 7 months , Lousville university ,FSU , Universidad Nacional de Panama and Ganexa university where the main points for this time .

all of the programs included kirtan , lecture and prasadam  .

Gurudeva the past sunday i was speaking with a devotee from the temple he lives at the temple he the one in charge of saturday program , very wise with chastras , he said he wanted to help me out with the coordination of a future art envolved krishna program that got me really pumped up , i am so glad you are at Washington - Virginia ,i hope i was of service with the art for the poster , i humbly put my all to them .

if can serve you in anything else Guredeva please let me know .

Your humble servant

Japa Nama Rama Das 

HpS - Wow!   Wonderful news.   We see the Shakti of Prabhupada!    No reason your community can't grow to enormous proportions!    You are at the door-way between the worlds!!   Every passenger that passes thorugh the canal should get a laddu!

Yes, the poster was extremely effective. It gave the impression of extreme professionalism. I hope you all can be on the team more and more. Dates are aligning for next program in Peru, in end of June. PSCHOLOGY AND THE SACRED ---- ART AND THE SACRED.   Ekasma Das is doing very practical work in developing KC art exhibitions and new productions.  I hope that he writes of his results and then you catch his posts and start exchanging ideas.  A picture is worth a thousand words.

Acepte mis humildes reverencias . 

Todas las glorias a srila prabhupada . 

Mi nombre es hector y en estos momentos estoy viviendo en el templo de la ciudad de México. Anteriormente estuve en Cueramaro. Ahora estamos intentando implementar algunos cursos dentro del templo. Quería preguntarle cómo podríamos trabajar para mantener dichos cursos durante mucho tiempo. 

Me despido, su aspirante a sirviente 

Bhakta Hector.

HpS - Hola, Hector!   TlgaSP!   Tlga Radha-Madana gopala de Srila Prabhupada. No, se los detalles, transfondo, de su pregunta. Por ejemplo, Prabhupada dice en uno de sus libros que la Biblia y Koran, son escripturas Vaisnava pero no son eternos, son algo generado en un momento para alguna gente como ellos pueden adelantar en su circumstancia especifica.

Entiendes? Entonces no esperamos los cursos, la Biblia, va a durar para mucho tiempo. No queremos que estaba continuando para mucho tiempo.

Entonces, posible Vd. va a implementar unos cursos con la fin de producir un resultado y despues va a pasar a otros curso.

Nuestra mision esta bien explicado en el prefacio del Upadesamrta: Queremos cualificar nos como podemos ayudar El Senyor Caitanya en su mision de compartir la ciencia de KRSNA a las almas caidas por estudiando los libros dejados por los seis goswamis.

O.K.   Si sus cursos son relacionados con esta perspectivas va a tener potencia durar para mucho tiempo, no?

Espero que sus cursos son muy exitosos y placentera a la comunidad Vaisnava de Mexico!

Continuing from here

http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/node/7067

Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Generally speaking, this is how I understand and act upon these kind of situations.

A person practices ISKCON sadhana bhakti, after some times stops the practice (by leaving ISKCON and joining some other sect, or stopping sadhana altogether). This person may be by profession an auto mechanic. If I need to fix a car, I may bring it to that person. But if that person is a philosopher and scholar by profession, and I need some philosophical points to discuss, I may need to be careful with what to hear/take from a person whose philosophy differs from our parampara.

This is given in simple words. There are more details to consider.

Is that proper?

HpS - As far as we can understand things we act in the same way, and of course there are details. Some people have left and become viscious demons. So, with them we don't even ask technical things.

About citations – they are about connections of Bhoja and Rupa Goswami, then some about historical facts , and about how Rupa Goswami uses Agni Purana.

Now that we are here on this topic, may I ask what you think and what you say to people who declare points that Nitai das propagates: that our line from BSST is not bonafide because BSST did not took initiation from Gaurakisora das Babaji. (There are more points but this is a main one).

Thank you!

Your servant Namacarya Das

HpS - Do you mean he didn't take Sannyaya from GKDB?   Is there some doubt that GKDB didn't give him Mantra initiation as a Hari-nam disciple or Gayatri mantra?
Sannyasa is a Varna ashrama arrangement in some ways. Real parampara is one Sampradaya Acharya accepting another as his student and then passing the Bhava, perspective, attitude with Sastric reference to his disciple.

http://www.vedabase.com/en/sb/1/3/44

... aham — I; vaḥ — unto you; śrāvayiṣyāmi — shall let you hear; yathā-adhītam yathā-mati — as far as my realization.    

O.K?  Just brief idea. Depends very much on the motive of the person who is arguing, no?

Estimado Karuna Krsna Das,
Hare Krsna, Prabhu,
AGTSP. Paoho Hemos estado tratando de escribirte durante mucho tiempo. Teníamos la dirección equivocada. Nos estamos ahogando en el servicio de Sannyasa.
¿¿¿Cómo estás??? Estamos muy contentos cada vez que nos das tu asociación y estaría muy contento cuanto más puedas unirte a estos eventos, Psicología y el Sagrado, tipo!
¿Cómo es el Consejo Nacional?
¿Es el Libro de Actos actual?
¿Podemos verlo? A pesar de que estamos en la clase de perros sin pelo peruano?
¿Algún servicio para nosotros?
¿Qué pasó con la carta que enviamos al Consejo sobre NIMSAR?
Por lo tanto, bueno para escribir a todos ... Estamos haciendo planes para visitar Perú a principios del próximo año y mover nuestra base allí desde 2018-2021, O.K?

Querido Gurumaharaja: 
Por favor acepte nuestras reverencias!
Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada! 

Gurumaharaja enviamos más detalles del itinerario y algunas dudas que tenemos (*)

Diciembre 
Sábado 24 ( maha Sankirtana)
7:00 pm: De Cristo a Krsna y vuelta 

- Al final de la clase entrega de premios a sankirtaneros.

- Programa tradicional de Navidad mexicano ( prasadam, ponche, piñata) 

Domingo 25 
12:00 pm: Ceremonia de fuego 

4:00 pm: De Cristo a Krsna y vuelta.

* Por favor nos puede escribir en inglés " De Cristo a Krsna y vuelta " 
No tenemos claro en español "y vuelta"

HpS - From "Christ to Krsna and Back Again". El contenido es nuestra viaje en cristanismo de ninez hasta encontrando Krsna y despues el intercambio constante, bueno, entre nuestra vida en Hare Krsna y nuestra tradicion Cristiano. O.K?

Los días domingos el programa de la tarde del templo empieza 3:30 pm, es el nuevo horario.

Lunes 26
4:00 pm a 6:00 pm
Seminario Adoración a la Deidad 

Martes 27 
11:00 Maha Harinama y distribución de libros 

2:30 pm prasadam para todos en casa de un miembro de la congregación. 

Seminario de Sankirtana 

La propuesta de hacerlo en la mañana de  6:00 a 6:30 am, no fue error,  disculpe por no explicar por favor. 
La intención fue dirigirlo especialmente a los devotos internos  y del campamento de Sankirtana. 
En Diciembre el horario de clase de Srimad Bhagavatam es de 6:00 a 6:30 am. La intención es que los sankirtaneros salgan temprano a distribuir libros.

*Podemos agregar media hora más para el seminario: 6:00 a 7:00 am.

*Sin embargo, no hay ningún problema de fijarlo para la noche . 
7:00 pm a 8:00 pm
Para todo público

ASA - Hmmm.  Es bueno por la manyana. Media hora. Pero algo despues de Gaura-arati de la misma contenido?

Miércoles 28 
7:00 pm a 8:00 pm  Más de diálogo vaisnava Cristiano " De Cristo a Krsna y vuelta" 

*se  puede continuar con el Seminario de Sankirtana  ( dirigido a todo público) 

HpS - Kristo Sabado, Domingo, Miercoles, por la tarde para todos. Y Sankirtan, Manyana y Tardes, Lunes y Martes. O.K??

* Se puede fijar únicamente clase de SB. 6:00 am para permitirle dar Su clase online de Bh.Sastri 7:00 pm.

HpS - No, esta bien. Podemos adjustar. Solamente una semana en Mexico. Utilizando todo el tiempo para eventos local. 

Como referencia, México inicio su horario local, tenemos el mismo horario de Nashville. 

Tenemos esas dudas para este día, disculpe por favor . 

Jueves 29 
12:30 pm Ceremonia de Vyasa-Puja 

4:30 pm prasadam 

6:30 pm Gaura arati 

7:00 pm clase de BG. 

7:30 pm ofrenda artística 
Obra de Teatro : " El Testigo Divino" la historia de Sakshi Gopal. 

Duración: 30 minutos. 

8:00 pm último darshan del día de la Deidad. 

8:20 pm. Prasadam regular del templo. 

* Gurumaharaja le parece bien esta propuesta de horarios?

HpS - Cuando es Raja-bhoga arati, Arati de Media dia? Podemos todos asistir y cantar y tener ofrenda de Bhoga a Radha Madan-gopal....   [Pujari puede ser nuestra discipulo??. Entonces nuestra photo pequeno en altar a lado de el, ella].
Entonces, unas palabras acerca de Vyasa-puja, de Prabhupada, Srila Vyasadeva, Krsna, Nosotros, Vds. Presentadoros elegido antes y su presentacion traducido a Ingles. 45-minutos???

Prasadam... Descansa.  Gaura arati. Programa cultural. [Disponible en el Templo antes de Gaura arati, cantando unos Bhajans juntos de Guru-tattva?]  Recordando un anyo. Hay como 50 ofrendas y ninguna de ellos, sino la fruta, era algo de mucho interes para mi. Muy divertido. Nadie preguntado que quiero. Guru como un estatua no como una persona.

* este dia  habrá conexión Online con discípulos de otros países?

HpS - Pienso que si. Como es posible. Es misma hora para Peru, EEUU.

Viernes 30: 
Breve ofrenda artística "sorpresa' de parte del yatra.

Duración: 15 minutos.

Horario:  5:45 am.

* O el horario que ud disponga , antes de ir al Aeropuerto por favor. 

HpS - Muy bien!  Sorpresa.   El vuelo a Houston es 11AM.  Llegamos tres horas antes???  8AM???  Entonces salimos a que hora del templo.
Una cosa. Solamente estamos viajando con equipaje de mano (mono (monje)))>  Entonces, no podemos llevar regalos grandes.  Moooo y Pequenos. como amistad sincero. Despues  (y oramos a Dios el vuelso de Mexico no esta retrasado!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!   !108) estamos en transito in Houston hasta 4PM, 3-horas. Entonces cambiando avion en Paris y continuando con Radhka Rama Das. Cambiando avion en Delhi, 6 horas en transito, y llegando a Tirupati!!!   Prasadam para el viaje??

Quedamos atentos a Sus instrucciones, disculpe los errores por favor.

Su eterna aspirante a sirviente 
Asta Sakhi dd. 

Hare Krishna! Dear Gurumaharaj, Pamho, AGTSP!

As I said before, NIMSAR is rethinking some aspects of procedures because communications haven't been very well and that is affecting our relationships within NIMSAR.

I'm been trying to set a meeting, but it seems that we are not quite ready to talk openly about our concerns. We are focus in "doing" things and I don't think is healthy. We are taking desicions sepparatly without consulting each other. 

So I'm presenting here some ideas. Its a rough document, very imperfect. But its just to start with something to talk about. Its actually a reactive document. A lawyer, friend of mine, told me not to worry cause usually laws come as a reaction of certain situation that needs to be address o resolve.

Please, we need a prompt answer. I'm really concerned about NIMSAR communications. We need your good advise to go on. I felt that we are like obstructed. 

Thank you very much.

LAD 

HpS - ASA --- Hare Krsna.  Thank you very much for your letter. Yes, a dialog. First thing: Are you obstructed?  Misra-bhagavan Das told me that he heard Prabhupada say that in any situation we may be able to change the actions, plans and perspectives of others or maybe we can't, but we can ALWAYS change our attitude etc toward the situation. Are you happy and clear about how to relate to NIMSAR? This may even mean that there are certain things that you are SURE are UNSURE. In brief, what is your attitude, plans and acts with NIMSAR?

The following is too complicated for us. Maybe start with just one or two of the dicta below and then we can discuss it.

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NIMSAR RULES OF PROCEDURES

1. NIMSAR is an educational institution authorized by ISKCON Peru and collaborates with Bolivia and Ecuador.

2. NIMSAR is an ASA branch whose GBC is Tamohara Prabhu.

3. The Board of Directors is the highest authority of NIMSAR.

4. The Board is comprised of the senior members of NIMSAR. Currently active: Abhinanda and Laksmana Prabhus; Yugala kisore, Candra mukhi and Isvari matajis.

5. NIMSAR has Collaborators such as: Ms Tarangaksi, Padmavati, Lila sakti, Bhaktin Maritere, etc.

6. The Board relies on the Board of Directors whose main member is Humatpresaka Swami

7. The NIMSAR Board of Directors approves the members of the Board, Board of Directors and collaborators.

8. The Board appoints the Junta Directiva (Officers or Executive Committee).

9. The Board of Directors is composed of: President, Secretary and Treasurer.

10. The functions of the Board of Directors are elaborated and approved by the Board of Directors

11. The term of office of the Board of Directors is decided by the Board of Directors. Any adjustment in this respect is decided by the Board.

12. The Board meets regularly. Frequency is decided by themselves.

13. Attendance at Board meetings is mandatory. If someone is absent has to justify it to the president. They have to be valid reasons.

14. If a member of the Board is absent from meetings three times, without reasonable justification, he may lose his right to be a member of the Board of Directors.

15. If a member of the Board behaves improperly is first orally sanctioned, the second opportunity by a letter and at the third opportunity may lose his right to be a member of the Board.

16. All decisions are taken by the Board are in consensus. If no consensus is reached, a vote is taken and the decision is taken by simple majority.

17. No one can send any communication, make a deal, accept or organize a program on behalf of NIMSAR without the authorization of the Directory. Therefore communication must be fluid, effective and constant among the members of the Board.

18. All agreements, directives or resolutions must be in the minutes of the meetings. These minutes will be signed by all members and must be available to all for consultation. Nobody can act on NIMSAR behalf if it is not stablished on the minutes.

19. The Board establishes the mission and vision of NIMSAR, its educational philosophy and all legal matters before ISKCON and the State.

20. Cooperation and communication is the basis of all the actions of NIMSAR.