artificial push vaidhi bhakti

hare krsna maharaj, PAMHO, AGTSP

its incredible to see that your grace puts so much effort to help others irrespective  of  their evolution level.

ASA - Whoop!   Whoop!    Oink!   Oink!

I am actuall mentally numb to write anything due to my own stupid behavior.

ASA - Numbki!

But SPOG arranged for circumstance leaving us no work on internet, so we thought its better to  write to Blog.

ASA - Supreme Personality of Blog-head.

It was surprising to see in node 7865  by Abhimanyu ji from Chile.

" Yes, if we artificially push Vaidhi bhakti, Japa for example, weeds can grow with the creeper and it can result in many crazy things.. I knew several cases of where people stole the tape of Prabhupada chanting the Gayatri mantra and listened to it and then went crazy."

Can you kindly tell us more  about " artificially pushing Vaidhi"...and how it can water the weeds.  Where does Srila Prabhupada write about it?

ASA - http://www.vedabase.com/en/cc/madhya/19/158   . . .   Is O.K?     Daksa worship the one true God, but he also wanted to hold the the Great King's Rod!

...till now our own assessment was we are just being little lazy/ unintelligent in pursuing Vaidhi bhakti. But your answer seems to direct about something else.

As you are our  guru (not Diksha guru) can you please tell us what rules/angas according to you are not artificial for us?

HpS - We don't live with you so much to give detailed advice, our mis-fortune, but finding a devotee who you can read and share your experiences with is one that we can all do, no?  We just read what they are reading each day at the Boise Temple and then Text our little thoughts, then look for a bigger Sanga once a week.

Of course, as much as we chant HKHKKKHHHRHRRRHH we are always making progress, First thing our of your mouth each morning HKHKKKHHHRHRHRRHH! 

horse victim upastha vegam

ASA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasta         One thing leads to another. Seek the root of the sin. Then you can apply the Mantra, and the whole tree will be clean again.
If we are sincere for a long time, it means that our attachments are deep. Some of them are rooted in our ontological rejection of Krsna. Those are DEEEEEEEp!      NOI 7!
Usually our sins at this stage are not, something that has to be rejected. They are attachments based upon something valid. We just have to figure our what it is.

One devotee we know. She was always agitated sexually but following the principles. Them she had one more child, the one who seemed to be waiting to be her daughter, and she was never agitated after that.

What is the real cause of our sin?

Are we suppressing a real power?

Nrshimha on the way.....

Hare Krishna!!

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!! All glories to Sripad Maharaj!! All glories to Guru Maharaj HpS!!

GuruMaharaj ,please ...please...accept my humble obeisances.....at Your lotus feet....again...and again!!

ASA - Lettuce feet.

We are now full swing into the project . Banamali Prabhu and Mahabhagavad Prabhu have gone for the final inspection of the land . We shall have a nagarkirtan on Monday......the 8th May....aahhh...Astasakhis...kindly send their blessings to us Maharaj.....this will be followed by the Bhoomi Puja....sorry GuruMaharaj....I got the date wrong in my last mail. Then Bhagavat class..followed by Prasadam distribution. We are planning for Puri and Chickpeas combo.....and a sweet item.  Need Your Mercy here Guru Maharaj.

ASA - We hope Krsna sends some devotees who will be attached to the project, to reside there.

Sending some pics Maharaj.....the land , the hills at the backdrop..everything is Yours ....Kindly bless us.

We have identified a  Vaishnava Brahmin who is willing to serve in this new would-be-temple. We plan to construct a temporary hut as soon as possible....which will be used for almost all purposes...for the time being. We would like to request you to send few devotees who would join us in offering service ....this would take some time though....but again...anything is possible ...with the mercy of Guru Maharaj..

ASA - Please complete the following paragraph: Once upon a time, long, long ago in a different Yuga, a little girl went to a distant village with her Grandfather and she saw _yagna, apple trees.....and ...lots and lots of cows!!.......Now You can start laughing Guru Maharaj!

ASA - Then she learned from her father that the people there made apple cider from the apples and let it turn a little bit, like 1.5% fermented, so that it would not turn to vinegar and then drank it in the winter when everything was covered with snow and all the cows were in the barn.

She asked, "doesn't that break the four principles?"

Her grandfather said, "I don't know? They have not discovered electricity and refrigerators yet in this universe. These people are condemned to live where the land is covered with snow from their Karma.

We ferment the milk a little bit to make yogurt for the same reason.

We hear that Srila Prabhupada told the Japanese people that they could eat fish because it was an island and there was no possilibity of growing enough food, but not to eat cows, and that he said the same thing about Lord Krist Jesus multiplying the bread and fish, it was a desert and there was nothing else to eat."

He told her that they would not take any

Then they came to a Dharmashala and it was . . . [Describe the Dharmashala, the Deities, people, building...activities]

I remain,

Your helpless servant.....

Sarada Gaurangi DD

ASA - Hmmmm!   http://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/6/24  especially last sentence in the Purport.   Thank you for your association.

Casi Urgente - Reactivación de NIMSAR en camino.

8 years, 1 month ago by YugalaKD in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

HK, PAOHO

QUERUDO GURU MAHARAJA. We are very happy to have it very soon again in Peru,

ASA - ISKCON Peru is an eternal idea in the mind of the Gods!

....for important cultural programs, my sister works in the BN, I wish I could meet her, she does not like the Hare Krsna, she read some Prabhupada books, but I think if she has the opportunity To attend the event, his ideas about the devotees could change.

ASA - http://www.vedabase.com/es/cc/adi/7/31-32  ?

When I wrote to this service to REACTIVATE NIMSAR, I did not think about the consequences or reactions of the rest, I simply thought about having their approval and doing this service, there are people who meditate a lot before assuming a responsibility and I think that is very good, but This time, in my case, I only asked for his blessings and we are forming a team, we wait for the approval of our authorities and the blessings of the devotees, and others to calm down. And we hope that is the plan of Krsna, when we went to distribute books, (we have not done it for some time), we understand that we are an instrument, that we do not have the qualification but Krsna gives the intelligence, we attract the appropriate people, , We trust it. We are idealists ?, We do not have FE!

ASA - What is FE??

We want to be servants, I understand that in the Ramayana, Mr. Rama thought about the interest of the kingdom, rather than in his own interest, that I understand that he must be a leader.

Until the subject of the examiner is resolved, as BS teachers. What would be the accreditation, the Anjana Suta Academy can give ?, How do we solve this difficulty?

HpS - I talked about this with H. H. Bhakta-vijnana Swami and he looked at me a little perturbed and said, "I am not a fruitive worker." I could see he was write. We do not study for titles for any fruit in this world. So, we will work with the institution, ISKCON Peru, Bolivia, Norther Market, to resolve these problems with the institutional diplomas, but we can work something out for Diplomas from ASA, Tom Brown and Buck White if that is too slow. They won't be Bhakti-sastri but we can give some other title, like, Sastra-Bhakta (???). To do that we need to talk with people like the Blue Baboon in Lima, Mathuresa et al. For the institution, maybe ASA can just work with ISKCON Bolivia?

Arrrange for us to talk with Mathuresa Das.

I take the opportunity to invite you to the Pato Yatra 2017, which will be held in Chosica on Sunday, July 16 at noon, the day before you are in Arequipa, and on the same day of the pato yatra, return tomorrow, we would like Confirm their attendance for the pleasure of the devotees. Or suggest changing the day, so that it is not too trajinado.

ASA - 'O'ink~~~ It is the day AFTER we are in Arrequipa!  We return from Arrquip at 8AM by airplane and then go straight to Cosica! What will be our service???  Many flags??  Bags of pop-corn and interesting little booklets?

I have a thousand questions as always, little by little I will formulate them, we do not leave the song 7. (I will send my questions) By the way, We will give class for Mother's Day, What could be a verse or approach appropriate?

ASA - http://www.vedabase.com/en/cc/adi/4/58  >>>   Especially Text 68, no?

Santa Rosa of Lima? Mother Mary? Teresa of Avila?

Many thanks and a thousand apologies for importunarlo:

His daughter who adores him:

Yugala Kishora Dasi

HpS - Arrange meeting with Mathuresa Das. Lead the Blue Baboon and Laksman-agra-ja Das onto the right path!

..................

HK PAOHO

QUERUDO GURU MAHARAJA. Estamos muy contentos de tenerlo muy pronto nuevamente en Perú, para programas culturales importantes, mi hermana trabaja en la BN, ojalá pueda conocerlo, a ella no le agradan los Hare Krsna, leyó algunos libros de Prabhupada, pero pienso que si tiene la oportunidad de presenciar el evento, sus ideas sobre los devotos podrían cambiar.

Cuando le escribí para este servicio de REACTIVAR NIMSAR, no pensé en las consecuencias o reacciones del resto, simplemente pensé en tener su aprobación y hacer este servicio, hay personas que meditan mucho antes de asumir una responsabilidad y creo que eso es muy bueno, pero esta vez, en mi caso, sólo pedí sus bendiciones y  vamos formando un equipo, esperamos la aprobación de nuestras autoridades y las bendiciones de los devotos, y que otros se apacigüen. Y esperamos que ese sea el plan de Krsna, cuando salíamos a distribuir libros, (hace tiempo no lo hago), entendemos que somos instrumento, que no tenemos la cualificación pero Krsna da la inteligencia, atraemos a las personas apropiadas, también Krsna enviará ayuda, confiamos en ello. Somos idealistas?, No tenemos FE!, queremos ser sirvientes, entiendo que en el Ramayana, el Sr. Rama pensó en el interés del reino, antes que en su propio interés, eso entiendo que debe ser un líder. 

Mientras no se resuelva el tema del examinador, como profesores BS. Cuál sería la acreditación, la Anjana Suta Academy puede darla?, Cómo resolvemos esta dificultad?

Aprovecho la oportunidad para invitarlo al Pada Yatra 2017, que se llevará a cabo en Chosica el domingo 16 de julio al medio día, un día antes está Ud. en Arequipa, y el mismo día del pada yatra, por la mañana regresa, nos gustaría confirmar su asistencia para el placer de los devotos. o sugerir cambiar el día, para que no sea muy trajinado.

Tengo mil preguntas como siempre, poco a poco las formularé, no salimos del canto 7. (Le haré llegar mis preguntas)  Por cierto, Daremos clase  por el día de madre, Cuál podría ser un verso o enfoque propiado?

Muchas gracias y mil disculpas por importunarlo:

Su hija que lo adora:

Yugala Kishora Dasi

LAD May Ekadasi Report (little urgent)

Hare  Krishna, dear Gurumaharaja, Pamho, AGTSP

We've been having this [these] nice conversations on mondays [Mondays] about your sudamerican tour.

HpS - ASA -- We take some time, not all the time, to correct your English!  Please take the time to correct our Spanish.

I'm trying to fix a programme at la Cantuta University. There are always political turmoils, but I think we have to mantain our relationship thinking in [of] the future. We can have exchanges of curricula, teach Vedic Teology [Theology], Arts and music [Music], get formla [formal] certificates on [the subjects], etc. So in this opportunity we can do something about Arts and the Sacred.  That was your idea actually.

HpS - ASA -- Yes, yes, main thing is friendship, not formal classes. We can just visit them and show what we are doing and invite them to join us, to write for 'Solaris',

We need to do something about education within ISKCON in Lima, probably when you are back from Chile. Meetings with ASA -Perú members that continue working on education in the zone and devotees in general that are and want to do more under their particular perspective. P. Karuna Krishna wants to re-open the ashrama in Chosica trying to resurrect some old school things that can still work nowadays.


HpS - ASA -- Jaya!

Mathures prabhu will be here, in Perú, very soon and I'm pushing prabhu Karuna to stablish once for all a head of education for Perú. P. Mathuresh told me that he'll suggest me, but I said that when a take some formal responsabilities I ended up fighting with people. So I want to help in the academic area. In fact, Junta National still don't like NIMSAR, I don't know why, so It'll be controversial if I take again management responsabilities. 

Anyway, we always need your perspective. So we can fix this meetings at Wilson in Lima. 

Also, members of the Chosica Board want to talk to you about your financial development ideas as well. All those things that you always talk about and few people pay attention and do it, like Goura gadhadara or Puspa gopal. They want to implement a formal bussines.

HpS - ASA -- Seems like it may work and be good Sankirtan: Weekly Puja Sponsors, Radha-Mandan-bihari devotional paraphernalia. Nobody can beat Radha Madana-bihari in two things, handicrafts and tourism!

Well, many things more that we can talk tomorrow in our meeting.

Perú needs you more that ever and I want to help you.

ysLAD

HpS - ASA --- AGTSP!!!!    Thank you for your constant efforts. Please go on with your self-realization, because unless you have that you have nothing to contribute in social relations. Of course, in social realizations we realize who we are, the mirror, achintya-bheda-abheda.
Next Monday, 8.57AM we can talk about the Sastric Education programs. Hope others can join us.

Calendar Art and the Sacred 2018 - Mahaprabhu Das

Hare Krsna, Prabhu,

AGTSP!   Paoho.   Last we met was at the ILS, no?  The program in Peru with the National Library in  June/July 2018 is roughly as Radhika described it below.

When I was in India in Jan-Feb we all met with ICCR, Lalita-kala Academy and other cultural groups. Yuddhisthira Govinda Das at Delhi Temple described your Sankirtan success with ICCR etc.

ICCR suggested that they could send 5-scholars artists for this "Art and the Sacred Symposium". Beverly Zabriske, who came 2016 says she can get the Director of the Metropolitan Museum of Art of New York to come and looks like we also have a very good shot at Francis Clooney, Director of Harvard School of Divinity.

The hang-up has been Peruvian politics, administration. The Director of BNP (Biblioteca Nacional Peruano) has changed three times since January. All favorable but could not get it nailed down for the use of the Library for 2018, although they are the co-sponsor in June for "The Psychology and the Sacred II".

Just yesterday we decided to go ahead trying to get them as our venue, which is very possible, but not to wait. Our other contacts are getting cold.

So, this week we will try to get a hard agreement with the Ambasador, Sandeep Cakravorty. He is our friend. An excellent scholar. Excellent organizer.

With his participation we would then go and fix the five scholars from ICCR. At that time we could also put your excellent art exhibition in the packet for Lokeschandra to consider.

We would have a full exhibition hall at the National Library, or if we have to move to another Venue, probably even a better exhibition space although a smaller presentation hall (350 not 512).

However, we could also investigate satellite exhibits in Cusco, Arrequipa, Trujillo, La Paz etc and/or the show traveling after the program in Lima.

That is why I wanted to contact you now.

I will be in Peru-Chile from the 21st June -- 26th July. Maybe you could even be in Lima then. We have very, very well connected friends who could also get corporate sponsorship from Banks et al.

"Psychology and the Sacred II" will be 26th in BNP and then 27th and 28th June in Jesuit University and San Marcos University (oldest in South America).

How does this fit into your plans??   Perspective?   [HELP]

Even if you can't come to Lima 21st-28th June (then we go to Chile) or 12th-14th July (then we go to Bolivia) or 24th-25th July, we could all get on the phone with the Ambassador, Banks, National Library etc.

Please use the address we are writing from to respond. It gets filtered directly into this kind of work and call or text us at +1 209 505 3219.

If you go to youtube.com and use the keywords, "Psychology and the Sacred 2016" you can see a short and medium size professional clip of the last event.

Thank you,
Paoho
HpSwam - NIOS

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From: Martin Gurvich [Mahaprabhu Das]

To: HPS; Ravi Gupta  
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: Art and Sacred in Peru
 

Sounds very interesting.

We would need to discuss practical issues like:

Dates, venue ( is it a real art exhibition space)

Budget available

Etc etc.

The best exhibit I have is called Forms of Devotion- The Spiritual in Indian Art. We usually get financial support from the ICCR to bring it to different countries. But you would need to see if the Indian embassy is willing to do the needful to get funding. You can see Forms of Devotion website.  www.formsofdevotion.org

We also have a wonderful film that just came our and a 2nvolume set book.

Ys

Mahaprabhu dasa

On Mon, 8 May 2017 at 06:04, Ravi Gupta  wrote:

Dear Mahaprabhu Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I hope you are well. I am writing to you in regard to the possibility of an art exhibition in Peru. My Guru Maharaja, Hanumatpresaka Swami, is organizing a symposium on "Art and the Sacred" in collaboration with the National Library of Peru, the Jesuit University in Lima, the Indian Embassy, the devotee community in Peru, and other organizations. We will invite scholars from South and North America, and I am also planning to participate. The event will happen about a year from now.

Last year, Maharaja organized a similar symposium on "Psychology and the Sacred," hosted by the National Library, and it was a great success with excellent academic presentations, cultural programs, and full house audience. We will build on that success for "Art and the Sacred" next year.

Maharaja and I have seen your wonderful exhibitions of sacred art (in Radhadesh and Florence). We thought that this would be an ideal opportunity to bring a traveling exhibition to Peru, as you have done at other places.

I wanted to connect you with Maharaja to begin the conversation and explore possibilities. I have copied Maharaja on this email.

Thank you,

your servant,

Radhika Ramana dasa

Introducing - Venkatesh Bhandary

Hare Krsna Dear Gurudev,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.
    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    All glories to Guru parampara.

    Hope you are good in health and doing well.

HpS - Health of body is O.K.  Health of soul needs work!

    Introducing - Venkatesh Bhandary.

    Name : S Venkatesh Bhandary
    Date of current birth: 15th January,1994
    Current family: Based at Suratkal, Mangalore(40km from Udupi Dham), Karnataka state, South India

    Languages: English, Hindi, Konkani(Mother tongue), Kannada, Tulu.

    Upbringing at home was in a pious 'brahmin' family environment, Gowd Saraswat sect, a branch of the Madhvacharya lineage. But there weren't
    much spiritual inputs at Home, it was all pious rituals. Real Good fortune arose when he got an ISKCON devotee's association in class in 11th
    &12th Grade(2009-2011). Philosophy was attractive, but couldn't really pick up as he was still doubting if the organization was authentic. The most
    significant touch came when he heard from an ISKCON initiated devotee, HG Haripad prabhu(ACBSP) at a students program(26th January,2013)
    hosted by student devotees at Manipal, Udupi- That was close to his engineering college. Simultaneously, he got in touch with student
   devotees(C/o ISKCON Pune) at National Institute of Technology,their center was 20min walk away from home.

    As you confirmed over call for to share the blog details so I would forward blog details to him for his direct communication with you.

   your fallen servant,
  Girivaradhari-Gopal Das


HpS - Jaya! How is your own perspective?  Are you looking to take Sannyasa in a few years? Thank you for introducing us to a new friend!