SP's reference books for SB etc.
ASA[e] - Bibliography, SP's Source Materials for SB etc.
https://www.radha.name/news/philosophy/srila-prabhupadas-books-and-purports
ASA[e] - Bibliography, SP's Source Materials for SB etc.
https://www.radha.name/news/philosophy/srila-prabhupadas-books-and-purports
All glories to Srila A.C. Prabhupada, Bhakti Svarupa Sripad Maharaja and Goura Bhakta Vrinda.
Hare Krsna,
HpS Guru Maharaja! Dandavat Pranam.
Please accept my humble obeisanses unto the Padmacharan of Guruji Maharja that the following is the comments of Prabhu Partha Sarathi Das on Manipuri Goudiya system of Shakhi-Manijari forwarded today.
“All Glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gouranga,
H. H. Respected Swamijee,
Please accept my humble pranam, Sriman Yamunesvara Prabhu has shown to me the comment of Sriman Haridas Gosvami on the Guru-Param-Para of the Manipuri Vaisnavism, which seems to be quite remote from the subject under discussion. I have nothing to comment on the remarks given by a sannyasi on his own accord. However, as I belong to the old traditional devout Manipuri Vaisnava family, I feel it obliged to say a few words he has not mentioned at all in his remarks, for the pleasure of my Spiritual Master and other vaisnavas.
To my mind, instead of giving his personal observation on the Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism, it would have been more appropriate for him to have focused on the principles of Manipuri Vaisnavism as enunciated in the scriptures, which have been followed by each and every vaisnava under the strict supervision of their respective Spiritual Masters coming down through disciplic succession right from the days of Rajarsi Bhagyachandra (1776) till this day. Their presiding deity is Lord Sri Govinda currently being enshrined (worshiped) in the Mani Mandir of the palace of Manipur, Imphal.
Though I have very little knowledge about his background of Manipur Vaisnavism, I regard Sriman Haaridas Goswami as a simple and humble sannyasi. So far as I know, he is a Manipuri devotee born in Assam and brought up there. I never expect such a remark on Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism, which may hurt the sentiment of Srila Prabhupada and Sri B.S. Damodara Swami, who were the great exponents of Manipuri Vaisnavism. Srila Prabhupada spoke highly of the Manipuri Vaisnavism and commented that Manipur was a great Vaisnava Kingdom and its vaisnava culture needs to be revived for the welfare of the humanity, as revealed in the purport of the Bhgagavatam (9.22.32). In view of this, the remarks on the Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism is quite irrelevant and uncalled for, from a sannyasi like him who belongs in the ISKCON family, which is to be treated as a great aparadha (sin) to his Spiritual Master, B.S. Damodara Swami as well as Srila Prabhupada. However, may all the merciful Lord Sri Govinda always protect him for his innocence and ignorance.
As desired, for information of Swamijee, I am sending details of the Spiritual Masters coming down through disciplic succession, they are - Lord Sri Krishna - Sri Krishna Caitanya – Sri Gadhadhara Pandit – Sri Loka Natha Swami – Sri Narottama Das Thakur – Sri Ganganarayan Chakravarti – Sri Nidhirama Chakravarti – Sri Kunjabihari Das – Sri Ram Gopal Vairagi – Sri Rupa Pramananda Goswami – Sri Rajarsi Bhagyachandara – and his successive disciple so on and so forth, which are in the records of the history of Manipuri Vaisnavism and its Guruparampara, compiled by great Manipuri writer Late Sri Koijam Brajabihari Singh of Thangmeiband.
One special and unique feature of the Manipuri Vaisnavism, as distinct from others, is that, our approach is indirectly direct, that is, no vaisnava devotee of Manipur is allowed to approach Lord Sri Krishna, direct but through His consort, all merciful Radharani. Radharani is non-different from Krishna. Krishna is the origin of Radharani. Because of this, another name of Radharani is known as Krishna Swarupini. Radharani is the origin of all the Lakshmis including 16,108 Maharanis of Dwarika and Gopis of Vrindavana. So Radharani is known as the Swarva Laksmi Mayi Angsini. As such Gopies are non different from Radharani. Therefore, under the Manipuri Vaisnavism, vaisnaava devotees are allowed to approach Krishna through Radharani, Radharani through Sakhis, Sakhis through Manjari. Shakhis and Manjaris are all Gopis. Under the Manipuri Vaisnavism, at the time of initiation of one devotee, the Spiritual Master should explain the significant of the Spiritual Master and necessity for approaching Krishna through one of the Shakhi or Manjari. And accordingly, the Spiritual Master, on the day of the initiation of a devotee, he should give the name of the Sakhi or Manjari along with his initiated name, through whom he should chant Hare Krishna Mahamantra on the japas at least 5 rounds of chanting, three times a day (tri-sandhya) in the morning, in the noon, and in the evening, without fail. Under this strict system of Manipuri Vaisnavism, I was given initiation by my Spiritual Master (Purohit) of my clan in the late forties when I was thirteen years old. I was also made known the name of the Sakhi through whom I pray to and worship Lord Sri Krishna, along with my initiated name. All these should be kept strictly confidential.
One more important thing to be noted about Rajarsi Bhagyachandra is that he is illiterate; he can neither read nor write. But with the blessings of Lord Sri Govinda, he is endowed with the gifted in-born talent of intelligence and memory, like Maharisi Veda Vyas, son of Parasara Muni. Vyasdeva could learn all the Vedas from his father Parasara only by hearing once for all. Once he hears, it never goes out of his memory. Likewise, though illiterate, Rajarsi Bhagyachandra, whatever he hears from his Spiritual Master Rupa Paramanand Goswami, it never goes out of his memory. Rupa Paramand Goswami narrated all the contents of all the 90 chapters of the 10th Canto, with special emphasis on the Rasa Panchadhaya. King Bhagyachandra was fully motivated and specially attracted to the transcendental beauty of the Rasa Lila of the Gopis with Sri Krishna and could relish the nectarean divine rasa (taste) to his heart’s content. As a result of it, he could produce the world famous Maharas which was staged on the full moon night of the month of Kartika (Nov-Dec) 1779 and Nata-Sankirtana describing the nectarean pastimes of Sri Krishna in the Vraja-Vrindavan.
King Bhagyachandra choreographed the Maharasa, the great circular Rasadance (Raslila) of Lord Sri Krishna along with Gopies, based on the Rasa Panchadhyayas of Srimad Bhagavatam 10th Canto (from 29th to the 33rd Chapters) showing highest devotional touch ever shown by the Gopies to the lotus feet of Lord Sri Krishna. He further designed the newest form of classical Sankirtana (congregational chanting of the Harinama Mahamantra depicting the Vraja Kahani, the nectarean pastimes of Lord Krishna in Vrindavan, performed by a group of singers through their graceful body movement. This type of congregational chanting is known as Nata-Sankirtan. Nata means actors who depicts Vraja Kahani (pastimes of Lord Krishna in Vrindavana through their melodious voice and acting with gradual and graceful body movement.
This is the world famous devotional classical Sankirtana form available till this day in the world. Maharasa and the Nata Sankirtana are the two greatest contributions of Rajarsi Bhagyachandra in the Vaisnava Culture of Manipur.
I have made this letter a bit long unnecessarily which may give Swamiji a little trouble to read.
Hare Krishna,
To In the service of Lord Sri Krishna
Srila Hanumat Presaka Swami Maharaja Your fallen servant,
Partha Sarathi Das
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Hanumatpresaka Swami,
Please accept my humble respects. You know that I love Manipur and Manipuri Vaisnava culture. You presentation was very concise and very nice. I have read some other books on the history of Manipuri culture, one was by a former Member of Parliament whom was a little famous. Maybe you know of whom I am talking.
I would have to know a lot more detail about the Parampara of Manipur to make any comments about the detailed practices. I did not see Haridas Swami's letter, so I do not know what his comments were.
Since ISKCON and Manipuri Vaisnavas, as you have so nicely described, are both in Parampara from Narottama Das Thakura then there should be points of agreement on his teachings in both of our traditions.
Specifically we are coming Param para from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaura kishora Das Babaji and Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta tradition.
Of course, we also approach Krsna though Radha but also through Balarama in some cases. Then we also approach Radha through the Sakhis, specifically though Lalita whom we understand has incarnated in Gaura lila as Srila Svarupa Damodara, the personal secretary of Lord Caitanya. Lalita we approach though Rupa and Rati Manjaris et al, whom we understand to have incarnated in Gaura-lila as Rupa, Sanatana, Raghunatha Das Goswami et al.
So, in general Rupa Manjari can be accepted by someone such as Yamunesvara as their Manjari leader.
As established by Srila Bhakti siddhanta Sarasvati and then Srila Prabhupada, this internal connection and cultivation in Manjari Raga anuga is only something that is practically comprehensible when one on a liberated platform.
Adau sraddha, sadhu sanga, bhajana kriya, anartha nivritt, ruci... (BG As It Is 40.10 purport).
Of course, with second initiation in ISKCON we can consider that one is liberate to the level of Brahman realization ie. There IS a spiritual, eternal, all pervasive reality. Then with Sannyasa or Goswami initiation we expect that the devotee is realizing the deity in His paramatma feature, the Lord of the heart, present in everyone giving specific instruction.
So, in our Parampara we do not give Raganuga initiation until the student has come to this platform of Sannyasa. In the Nectar of Devotion Srila Prabhuapada specifically deprecates, following Srila Bhakti siddhanta Saravati the Siddha pranali initiation which makes this Manjari Raganuga Bhakti initiation while the student is in a very neophyte stage which can cause severe damage to their spiritual progress.
It is as you mention something confidential and Srila Prabhupada can give it being physically present or not. One has to be on the platform above bodily consideration, in complete accord with his Diksa guru and the Parampara.
Is this O.K.?
One does not have to take Sannyasa to be a Goswami. It is a meaningful formality but ladies, Grhasthas all can and eventually must come to the level of Goswamis informally before considering Raganuga Bhakti.
Rupa Goswami gives great details of all these things in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu and Srila Prabhupada gives us perfect access through Nectar of Devotion, and in turn all of the teachings of Narottama Das Thakura come through the BRS.
Nectar of Instruction, Upadesamrta, give an expert summary, and in turn some esteemed devotee such as ourselves of Yamunesvara Das can read even the first text and evaluate his level of development toward Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan, Krsna and Manjaris.
Is O.K? We can make practical progress! ? Hope to get to Manipur for Kartika next year.
Thank you so much. Is very, very satisfy to communicate with you. Hope we can do it eternally with the guidance of H. H. B. S. Damodara Swami.
Dear Hanumatpresaka Swami. Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to you.
Our esteemed Daughter-in-law's water broke in the morning today and she had a miscarriage 😭😢
It was all so sudden.
The baby was 15 weeks and left the body. Please pray for the baby. It was a boy. She was reading Bhagavatam for the entire time of pregnancy and had almost completed the third canto planning to complete reading the entire Srimad Bhagavatam by the end of her term. We hope we have done something useful in the child’s onward journey. Of course our very beloved daughter-in-law is heartbroken. You hve always be such a guide to our family that in this crisis we hope you, Guru Maharaja and all the devotees bless us with illumnation and strength.
It is only by their mercy that we can try to come out of this tragedy.
HpS - 😳
Abhimanyu, Abhimanyu!!! Krsna, Pandavas, Kuruksetra, Subhadra!!! Mayi-bharta Das and his wife had a third little baby but it was ot developing cognitive functions. A scan showed that it had no developed cerebral cortex and the doctors predicted death within a few months.
They wrote to Srila Prabhupada and he said that sometimes a yogi or a devotee has a little bit of Karma left, so Krsna picks the proper parents and the Yogi, devotee, can finish it off in a few months.
He told them to just surround the baby with Krsna kirtan and feed him Prasadam
We saw the fellow. He looked quite comfortable and instead of a few months lived in that body for 13-months.
Such a Mother is very hard to find, and the asupicious association of such a great sould, even for 15-weeks is glorious.
They might like to read this and stay in close touch with look toward Lord's plan:
https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/6/15/
Hare Krsna!!!
Hare Krishna Beloved Gurudeva,
Please accept our humble obeisances,
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,
Here we are writing our thoughts about this topic because you had requested feedback from the community when you wrote about divorce.
HpS/ASA - Thank you!!!!! AgtSP!!!..... paoho....
Srila Prabhupada clearly explains that there are four Asramas: bramachari, grihastha, vanaprastha and sannyasi. It should be understood by Asrama, as a refuge for spiritual advancement.
And why do we need a shelter? Because this world is Dukhalayam Asasvatam (Bg 8.15) or Anityam Asukham lokam (Bg 9.33), a temporary place full of misfortunes.
And what is the way out of this ocean of suffering? Develop Krishna Consciousness under the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master. Srila Prabhupada established 16 rounds, 4 principles, Sadhu Sanga and Krishna Katha as a bona fide method to awaken our Krishna Consciousness. Therefore, we must try to put ourselves in the most favorable situation to develop these activities.
In the West, the great majority of Devotees find that refuge in the Grihastha Asrama, the married life.
Sadly, in our movement, we have struggled to help Devotees to be successful in married life but several families within Iskcon have had to go through the painful situation of divorce.
We who write included.
Here are some personal reflections on the subject, which I hope can shed some light on the dynamics of marriage and help Devotees to be successful in family life.
My inspiration to talk about this topic comes from:
I hope these reflections are useful to the community of devotees. I sincerely apologize if anyone has been offended by these lines.
Eternally grateful to be part of the great iskcon family.
At your service,
Nikunja Bihari das.
HpS - Wow! Is vast study. We recognize many points that are universal suggestions. I think the central point is the attitude of trying to help someone else in this specific social relationship become more Krsna conscious.
Then it is easier to include all the other points.
Thank you.
Hare Krishna Amado Gurudeva,
Por favor acepte nuestras humildes reverencias,
Todas las glorias sean para Srila Prabhupada,
Aquí escribimos nuestros pensamientos sobre estos temas porque solicitó comentarios de la comunidad cuando escribió sobre el divorcio.
Srila Prabhupada explica claramente que existen cuatro asramas, bramachari, grihastha, vanapratha y sannyasi. Se debe entender por Asrama, cómo un refugio para el avance espiritual.
Y por qué necesitamos un refugio? Porque éste mundo es Dukhalayam Asasvatam (Bg 8.15) o Anityam Asukham lokam (Bg 9.33), un lugar temporal lleno de desdichas.
Y cuál es la manera de salir de éste océano de sufrimiento? Desarrollar Conciencia de Krisna, bajo la guía de un maestro espiritual fidedigno. Srila Prabhupada estableció 16 rondas, 4 principios, Sadhu Sanga y Krishna Katha cómo método fidedigno para despertar nuestra Conciencia de Krishna. Por lo tanto, debemos procurar ponernos en la situación más propicia para desarrollar éstas actividades.
En occidente la gran mayoría de los Devotos encuentran ése refugio en el grihastha Asrama, la vida de casado.
Lamentablemente, en nuestro movimiento, hemos tenido dificultades para ayudar a los Devotos a ser exitosos en la vida de casado y varias familias dentro de iskcon han tenido que atravesar la dolorosa situación de un divorcio. Quien escribe incluido.
A continuación algunas reflexiones personales acerca de la temática, que espero puedan dar un poco de claridad acerca de la dinámica del matrimonio y ayudar a los Devotos a ser exitosos en la vida familiar. Mi inspiración para hablar de éste tema viene de las clases de Su Santidad Bhakti Vidyapurna Swami, lectura del libro Heart and Soul Connection del Grihastha Vision team, discusiones con mi Asrama Guru Su Gracia Srila Virabahu, mi consejero matrimonial Héctor Klurfan; y mis realizaciones personales.
Espero que estas reflexiones sean de utilidad para la comunidad de devotos. Pido mis sinceras disculpas si alguien se ha sentido ofendido con éstas líneas.
Eternamente agradecido por formar parte de la gran familia de iskcon.
A su servicio,
Nikunja Bihari das.
PAMHO
AGTSSGN
AGTSP
Dear Gurudev, hoping your health is fine and your sankirtan will please to Srila Prabhupada.
I wanted to show you this work.
At the request of CMDD, I made this Logotype for the project in Peru, which could be used for any purpose.
Your Servant and eternal well-wisher, Parasurama Avatar Das.
Santiago-Chile.
HpS - ASA - Es super hermoso, concentrado! ! !
asa-e; vad; grhasta; divorce
We have been participating in discussions of grhastha ashrama and divorce. We remember that we made some recommendations in: https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/12644/
Here are some responses to our very humble, small, ideas:
Dear Maharaj, please accept my respectful obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
My understanding of your advice is, that Tara Dasi and I can get separated legally, to allow me to legally accept a new wife.
HpS - We are suggesting it as a second class solution. Improving the relationship with her to make a functional marriage is first class.
In such a case the divorce would only be a formality to satisfy civil laws but all legal arrangements would be made so that the real substance of the situation is insured and clear.
As we understand reality a man cannot divorce a chaste wife. He must take proper care of the first and then may try again. It is like one not liking his first child. He cannot abandon the first, must give it all love, even in the form of chastisement, and then try to get another.
Hare Krsna! 😊
These things are automatic if our spiritual life is healthy, no?
I need to ensure I give her a comfortable amount of money, to sustain peacefully and live a reasonable middle class life. I also need to ensure that she is emotionally doing well under her parents/brother's care, until/if she remarries.
I wanted to raise my concerns regarding taking care of her emotional needs after divorce. Firstly, I haven't been able to adequately take care of them, even when married, as I never fully understood them and also found them to be too demanding.
HpS - If a child, wife is mad, then we can only try to satisfy their physical, psychological and spiritual needs, but we must offer the help, and learn how to do the job better. Reasonable healthy life.
All the more, after divorce, it would be very detrimental to second marriage, and I was planning to discontinue all communication with Tara Dasi after marriage, to enable a more peaceful second marriage.
HpS - As we understand, this is the big illusion that developed in this modern, industrialized, world, that real marriage is a superficial arrangement, like buying a car, but that is what our perspective in this situation denies. Getting married really, not just having a business arrangement with the opposite sex for immediate purposes, is a long time commitment, just like having a child. We can sell our car and buy a new one, but it is difficult to separate ourselves from a wife, child, parent.
Again this is reading Vedic wisdom from a self realized soul, and our own depth experience of the situation for over fifty years.
The second (or we see third, fourth, fifth!) wife is going to be quite conscious of the fact that the husband divorced a previous wife: If I give myself to him in marriage, will he really take care of me?
By the mercy of the continuous chanting of the Holy Names all these things can be practically resolved.
Requesting you to please allow to discontinue all communication and contact with Tara Dasi post separation, to allow both of us to move on emotionally and connect better with the future new partners.
HpS - My Lord, we are not the authority to "allow" these things. As we have mentioned, we only want to be a friend and counselor to everyone involved and give more general expression to these dialogs so that they can have some broader benefit.
Of course, there are so many details. Srila Prabhupada recommends Parasara Muni's Dharma Sastra [https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/1/9/27/#bb15336] to get guidance on how to deal with our marriage, automobile ownership/maintenance, and I think we have enough energy to discuss these things from our perspective in general for a couple of more years.
Then we will die (😉), but from now on I think we can only handle them in letters posted here in the Blog, preferable by all the parties involved ie. Let us send a summary of our situation to The Wizard of Monkey Warrior, and get his opinion.
O.K? Any comments here? 🐘
Your servant,
Yogananda