visit other Vaishnava groups

1 day, 3 hours ago by piyari_mohan_das in Special Category B

asa[e] Interfaith Dialog.


Hare Krishna Gurudeva

PAMHO AGTSP


A few months ago I was invited to a Kirtan at a Sarasvat Gaudiya temple (Ex Vrinda) in Valparaíso, and due to my lack of association, I went for a while. Then, a few months later, they invited me to sing Kirtan, and I accepted.

Today


HpS/ASA - AgtSP. Actually several days, maybe even more than a weeks ago. We tried to answer this important letter earlier but didn't have the strength with all the things that we happening!! He very responsibly squeaked in our personal WhatsApp mail, and we responded but still could not get to it until now (=7PM 25 08 02).


I was invited to celebrate Radhastami at an ecovillage they have in Catemu, close to my house. I've never been. I'd like to know your opinion on this situation. For my part, the times I've been to these programs, I've left when a sastra class is being given, trying to follow what Prabhupada established.


Thank you, Gurudeva.

Piyari Mohan das


HpS-ASA - AgtSP!!!! Paoho/BW.... On the administrative level, ISKCON as a transcendental institution, GBC, Temple President, I know of no specific rule that would govern your participation. I think that Senior men like myself in this Leadership Role, might be restricted from intimately associating with Sarasvat Gaudiya programs.

I would have to check.

You should try to check with your local Chilean ISKCON authorities. Tell us any answers you get.


In general, Prabhupada, Bhaktivinode Thakura, Lord Caitanya, they visited other Vaisnava centers, and even Temples of Demigods.

Prabhupada says, that following the example of Lord Caitanya, we should visit Temples of Demigods and show people how to worship them properly. See last part of CC 1.7.

Bh. V. Thakura says that when we are in someone else's place of worship at the time of worship, then we should think that the same God I am worshipping is being worshipped here, and I maybe able to learn how to enhance my worship by see their methods and sentiments, but because I do not belong to this tradition, I will not be participating in the details.


Lord Caitanya listened to Sarva-bhauma Bhattacharya preaching Mayavada philosophy for like seven days {?} without saying a word, but we can see it was a strategy to introduce dialog for proper preaching.


So, I would suggest that you go. Listen. Evaluate. Don't lead any events, and report back with your findings!

Thank you.

ASA Camp

1 day, 13 hours ago by hps in Special Category B

asa[e] asa camp

(rev. 25 08 02)


Srila Prabhupada would have a permanent space at the top of his letters label, "Camp:". Then the Secretary would type or write in the location where Srila Prabhupada was camped when the letter was sent eg. ISKCON Temple Juhu.


This always struck us as very nice. We are all actually just camping in this material world. It is not our real home. Of course, this is especially true for the Sannyasis and itinerant preachers.


We have WhatsApp group(s) for our current (and recurrent) ASA Camp(s). For example, today, 25 08 02, we are camped at 902 Hillcrest Dr., Murfreesboro, TN37128.


In General:

These Groups are especially for the logistical arrangements of the Camp, not philosophical discussions 🤔

eg. food, lodging, transportation, program.


Daily Agenda

~Morning - We get up early and get our rounds done, with enthusiasm. Join us. Early has now become by 12.40AM, then we do Japa (on line if we can) until 3.30AM and because it is enthusiastic we may make thundering noises, so please let us know if we are bothering anyone.

Then we have Full Morning Program (FMP) from 4.30AM to 5.30AM with Mangala arati, reading (usually Spanish but can make toward bi-lingual if guests), then chanting/chatting.

Usually SB class from 7.30-8.30AM followed by Breakfast Prasadam. We usually eat light in the morning and save the rest for in our lunchbox for our picnic with everyone.

After Breakfast we check the mail, communicate with everyone with whom we are working about our day's Sankirtan schedule.

Usually available for basic interviews after full morning program and before the evening program. During the day scheduled events and private work projects.


~Evening Program - Flexible, but often go to the Temple or Temple-room in our Hosts Ashrams for chatting and Bhajans. Often join Sri Sri Radha Natabara Sanga on line.


Diet

Maha-prasad! AgtSP, we always offer everything to our Istadevata, Lord Nrsmha deva. He is supposed to have a tablespoon of Ghee and some squash daily.

Puris and Raita are very nice!

No Quinoa and no, no, soya! Soya gives us headaches. 😧

Beyond that we follow Jayananda Das' diet: Don't eat too much and work hard.


Sadhu sanga

Because we, HpS, Tom Brown and Buck White et al🐵 🐖 👽, are mostly B'caris and Sannyasis we are only allowed short term contact with the opposite sex for preaching purposes only. No conversations in secluded places. https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/16/1-3/#bb3635.

So, staying alone in house 🏠 or driving alone in auto 🚙 just agitates everyone's mind. One practical approach for Grhastha Ashrama is that host, Gentleman, is present when we are present and if he goes out we go with him. Often what we do if Gent goes to work, we go with him and can camp at the library etc while he is out, or another Gentleman can come to give us all company in the home, or we can take his car after after dropping him for work and go joy riding in the country. 🙂


Lord Caitanya had 3-1/2 intimate associates: Svarupa Damodara, Ramananda Raya, Sikhi-mahiti, and Sikhi-mahiti's Sister. Srila says that ladies are counted as 1/2 in Vedic culture 🙂

. Strange. She never talked personally with the Lord but was one of the 3.5 most intimate associates of the Lord!


Accommodation

We have lived through Lokannatha Maharaja's Braja Mandala Parikrama and one of the hottest years in 35-years in Kolkata prepping The Second World Congress for a Synthesis of Science and Religion for B. S. Damodara Swami's Bhaktivedanta Institute. So, we can live with just three paces of land to our arms extension and a place to fill our bucket with water! Mother Matsya Devi Dasi called us the Maintenance Free Sannyasi. 😳

Srila Prabhupada said, "Become self-realized, build your character, and preach".

We really like a hard surface, not soft beds. How about you? Our feet swell up if we sit in a chair much, so we like to sit, sleep and work in the same spot. Putting a piece of 3/4" plywood on the bed with a yoga mat is great!


😕
(This man is nuts). We heard that Romapada Swami sleeps on the floor also!

Well, 🐵

, guess that is about all. Please text us at our ASA Blog: MonkeyWarrior.Com, with your camping tricks. We will try to revise this post from time to time.


Camping out is fun for the whole family!!
🌴

Tom's Trash 25 08 02

1 day, 14 hours ago by hps in Special Category B

asa[e] tom's trash 25 08 02


obeying, agtSP, jack london, we 🐵

🐒

🐒 🐒continue to write our 100,000 words of trash rummaging through hanumatpresaka swami's attic stash.


there was man named ricardo alfonso brihuega cook, who decided to write a book, about a monkey who was writing a book, about a man named, cook, who gave a cat a dirty look. are there cats in braja dhama or by buddha are they forsook?

cats cannot be vegetarian. they must eat meat to survive and thrive.

if they were bigger and hungry then they would look upon their owners with a thirsty eye.

yet, prabhupada talks about a guru in the jungle giving milk to a tigress daily and having her smell his little brahmacaris and telling her, that she should not eat his students because he gave her milk.


hare krsna kirtan resolves all things, and very soon we will be knowing all that we need to know to accomplish our assigned missions!


for our mission seems we must die and go to heaven.


there we can just be small.


and on a little cloud we'll crawl

from scene to scene

and play our hoop!

chanting Hare Krsna, and that's just all!

Los tiempos cambian y las personas también

1 week ago by Gadai in Special Category B

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!


Hare Krishna Guru Maharaja, por favor reciba mis humildes y respetosas reverencias.


Sigo aquí en Huancayo por lo pronto, haciendo sankirtan, a veces en la mañana y a veces todo el día, en mi anterior carta usted me dice lo siguiente:


HpS - ¡Gracias! Por favor, envíame algunas historias de gente que conozcas. Parece mejor que centrarse en la distribución de libros, es centrarse en convertir a la gente en distribuidora. Claro que ambas cosas están completamente conectadas. ¡Intenta que la gente lleve cinco o seis copias de los mismos libros para sus contactos!

Tenemos mucho que ofrecer al mundo.


Bueno, no tengo muchas historias que contar. En la actualidad los tiempos y las personas han cambiado por la influencia de la era de Kali y de Maya, cada día que pasa la distribución de libros es más difícil en las calles, pienso que a las personas, se las puede atraer a la conciencia de Krishna, a través de temas como el Jyotish, Ayurveda, Samudrika Sastra, Palmistry, Vastu, Yoga, etc., son temas que les atraen a las personas, de esa manera llevarlos a la conciencia de Krishna, de esa manera las personas pueden llevar más libros. Pienso que es una muy buena alternativa de prédica. Se puede salir a las calles y dar los libros de Srila Prabhupada y ofrecer esas alternativas, talleres esotéricos por internet, tantas cosas por hacer. Espero realizar proyectos de talleres de jyotish y Samudrika Sastra por internet para aumentar la prédica.


Bueno Guru Maharaja, me despido, que el Señor Nrsimha lo proteja siempre. Hare Krishna.


Gadai Gauranga Dasa


HpS - ASA -- TlgaSP!! Senyor Caitanya estuvo adaptando ropa and iniciacion de Mayavada Sannyasa, no? Especific para la predica. Un ejemplo despues de otro de adaptacion de la forma exterior de nuestra sadhua sanga, com connectar con las almas condionadas.

Siguiendo los acharyas nosotros adjustamos, y de esta manera no cambina luz a oscuridad.


Y... cada vendadoro tiene su propio technica. Podemos robar ideas de otros pero por la fin de desarrollar, vida tras vida, aun en Vaikuntha, nuestra Sankirtan.

Achintya Bheda Abheda. La violin in la orchestra tiene que ser perfect in su mismo pero tambien parte del orchestra, no??



Associate with Sadhus

1 week ago by hps in Special Category B

asa[e] sadhu sanga


Major Jade: I live in a place where everyone is Sudra or Tribal. I have no good association.

ASA/Hansadutta: Srila Prabhupada made his generals out of mud!

[Abhimanyu was surrounded by the Kaurava catur-vyuha formation and could not get out. Bad association, man. Trying to kill him.

So he decided, well if I kill them all, then there will be no bad military formation to escape from. So he began to kill everyone.

If you are surrounded by bad association and always struggling to avoid bad temptations, then just turn the Big Guns on them and make them all ISKCON devotees, or Seventh Day Adventists... and then there will be no bad association to avoid.]


MJ: You can say that. You got good association. I'm not that advanced.

ASA/TB: Hey, maybe so, maybe not, but it may just be a reality that Srila Prabhupada has decided that it is time for you to become a paramahamsa.


MJ: I want your, HpSwami, association!

HpS/ASA: We are not God. He is the best friend of everyone. He is the only friend, associate, who will satisfy us.

Our limited association can only include about six people a day in Indra loka dialog. There are many devotees who tell me that they just want to live a peaceful life and enjoy in a civilized fashion and they are NOT focusing on going back to godhead at the end of this life.

We are focusing on going back home, back to godhood even IN this life time.

Of course, we may be delusional and in reality be even worse off than those who are focusing on taking birth in ISKCON Indraloka, but more and more often we feel direct pressure to give up this current gross body and develop a current material body, and internal body, fit to play with Krsna. Play with Nimai in Nadia.

Maybe take birth in the universe were Srila Prabhupada and HIS Iskcon are dancing with Nimai in Nadia.. even as a 🐶 Dawg.


So, to try to serve by preaching (and reaching our friends and masters) we keep:

  • WhatsApp community, anVesaka, for immediate posts: https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/15534/
  • Blog for slower, deeper exchange [www.MonkeyWarrior.Com]

We have broadcast this for years.

If you have not got it after this many years you are a 😕 "slow learner". Haw Haw Hare!!

It's best we can do.

Through the paramatma we can also be connected, me and you.

Join us for Mangala arat, Kirtan, SB, One or more Rounds daily, at physical and cyberspace locations announced in the Blog and anVesaka. On that basis, we can meet with the people we are working with to make a calendar daily after breakfast.


Yes, we can handle one or two direct mails to WhatsApp private line, but really its a very thin orange line.


Worshipping Shilas

1 week, 6 days ago by hps in Special Category B

asa[e] silas, worshipping


From WhatsApp:

I have 3 Shalagrams from Jaya Guaranga Prabhu (we had the program at his house when you visited) currently. I am asking for your permission to receive them and worship them. What do you think?



HpS/ASA - 🤔 Hmmm.

We, agtSP, get this question a lot.

I hope that Srinatha and SriRamaKrsna Das's get Monkey's Encyclopedia organized so that we can refer folk to his, our, answer there.

  1. as far as we understand it is very serious. it is like having a child. it is not that we can accept them and then later put them in a drawer and forget them.
  2. the govardhana silas are exceptionally dangerous. if offended they can even kill family member.
  3. not being born of brahman fathers, we are not accustomed to the standards that are required by our cultural heritage, but if we have developed these, then srila prabhupada cautiously approved of the worship.
  4. they are worshiped more by the character of the pujari, than the sophistication of the paraphernalia. guess you can search vedabase.io for key words: raghunatha / govardhana / sila. you know this? nice description of the worship of the zilas that lord caitanya gave to raghunatha das goswami. so, must be very strict in brahminical habits such as four principles, brahma muhurta etc.

for some devotees it can be very nice.

maybe better to stick to the household worship of gaura nitai and join the temple worship of Radha and Krsna!

Keep a picture of Them on your altar with your Deities of Gaura Nitai.

Hope to hear of any thoughts you have.


Thank you!