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sexual orientation and your views

10 years, 9 months ago by shyamsundar in Personal Sadhana Reports, Special Category A

Hare Krisna maharaj. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to you. PAMHO at your lotus feet. Maharaj thank you for replying to my questions. You had mentioned srila prabhupada's third canto explaination. But its given there that the demons were later attracted towards the damsel and were infatuated with a appetite for sex . It therfore means that they were actually heterosexual but due to lust were attracted to lord brahma. But gay people are not attracted to females. But the demons were attracted to females.Gay guys dont have uncontrolled lust or insatiable appetite. I think Srila prabhupada meant lust not gay people to be demoniac. Further srila prabhupada never treated his gay disciples any different than his straight disciples. 2) research by american society of human genetics in 2012 did a multi centric research on male sexual orientation. Data replicated hamer's Xq28 finding as determined by two point and multipoint LOD Score mapping . Authors concluded that "our findings taken in context with previous work suggest that genetic variations in each regions contributes to development of the important psycological trait of male sexual orientation. Q) Maharaj dont you think that it will be better to support gay devotees so that even they get the oppurtunity to go back to krisna by bhakti yoga ? Q) If a gay devotee is already in a monogamous relationship with a devotee partner, will you accept him/ her in Prabhupadas movement and give him or her the oppurtunity to serve Radha and Krisna. Thank you very much for helping me out by answering my questions. I know its difficult for you to answer my questions here because people might interpret it in a wrong manner . I am very very gratefull towards you maharaj. Your servant Shyamsundar HpS - ASA --- Yes, I would have to look up the exact citation in the (?) third canto. In general I think it is a complicated topic and the basis of four principles and 16-rounds a day makes a lot of it moot. Rama and Sugriva had a "vow of friendship" which was as binding as a vow of marriage. I don't know of any GBC rules about this, but as far as I know, anyone who is following the four principles and chanting sixteen enthusiastic rounds a day and has proper administrative approval can be initiated. That means that Krsna accepts them as His students. The whole process focuses on the soul, no? Homo, hetero ... these are all starting places, but if we advance in spiritual life this quickly falls away. My basic approach is that I initiate people who I know and who know me. Homo-sexuality is a secondary issue. '0'

sexual orientation and your views on it.

10 years, 9 months ago by shyamsundar in Special Category A

Hare Krisna Maharaj All glories to Srila prabhupada All glories to you maharaj PAMHO at your lotus feet. Maharaj I am a 28year old gay devotee from indian origin . I came in contact with ISKCON through street sankirtan in london in 2011. I have been chanting and following the regulative principles from the last 1 year. I came in touch with GALVA( Gay and lesbian vaisnava association ) where i had a chat with Amara das prabhu ( prabhupada disciple) .he told me that in ISKCON multi guru system many gurus do accept gay disciples although celibacy is to be maintained ie illicit sex is not allowed. I even read H.H.Hridayananda swami's view on it. I want to know your view on the topic. How do you view homosexuality ? And if you ever had a gay disciple what will be your suggestion to him/her. Maharaj I am sorry because i asked this question in a public forum but i hope many aspiring gay devotees will be helped. I pray to Krisna that i didnt offend you by asking. Thank you Your servant Shyamsundar HpS - ASA - AGTSP! Hmmmm! very interesting. We will let Uncle Gismo, the ASA Science Officer give his clinical opinion on the matter. UG - ASA -- Thank you Swami Ji. Let's be frank about this. 1) Your Prabhupada says somewhere like in the Third Canto that the sexual appetite for of one male for another is not a sane attraction at any point during a normal human life. 2) They say that R.D. Laing, the great anti-psychiatrist psychiatrist said that insanity is usually an sane reaction to an insane situation. 3) White Rats [http://www.neebo.com/Textbook/even-the-rat-was-whiteb9780205392643/ISBN-9780205392643?gclid=CLyC99eJ58ACFYMF7Aod9koA1w] when put in large colony cages with plexiglass tubeways connecting to other large colony cages and lots of food and water begin to reproduce and reproduce. After a while there is over-population followed by cannibalism of babies, catatonia and ... homo-sexuality. 4) THEREFORE we might speculate that homosexuality is a sane psycho-physical reaction to an insane situation, urban over-population, in some people. Experience has shown that it could be a reaction in anyone: Sannyasi, GBC, German woman, Frenchmen. It may be Mother Nature's simple practical way to reduce the population. HpS - ASA - Thank Professor! What do you think of that Prabhu?

On the road in the Philippines

10 years, 9 months ago by bhaktakenny in Personal Sadhana Reports, Special Category A, Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Dear Swamiji,

PAMHO, AGTSP! I'm spending 2 weeks traveling in the Philippines to see temples and meet devotees. Cebu is nice, only a preaching center now that is run by a family. They hold a Sunday feast and about 15 college students attend. I went this past Sunday and was asked to give the class. I chose Bhagavad Gita (2.26). Gaura Nitai really inspired me. I will leave friday for Manila temple. Everyday I see clearly how Krishna is arranging my life in every way.

HpS - Very nice. I bet you meet some people in route too! Have some books to give them!!!!

HAVE VIRUS

10 years, 9 months ago by kalindidevi dasi in Special Category A

09/13/14 ESTEEMED GURU MAHARAJA: HARE KRSNA AGTSP PAMHO THANK YOU FOR RECENT MERCIFUL REPLY. QUICKLY. I HAVE IDEA RE. WHO MIGHT WANT TO HELP AURUVEDIC SIMINARS. QUESTION IS: DOES HE HAVE TO BE YOUR DISCIPLE OR A DEVOTEE INITIATED BY ANOTHER SANYAS IS OK? HE IS INDIAN PROFESSER, SELLS AURUVEDIC SUPPLIES. USED TO BE PART OF SAC. PREACHING CENTER. JUST MOVED TO L.A. WITH AMERICAN DEVOTEE WIFE WHO IS SPECIAL ED TEACHER. WAITING ON YOUR REPLY TO CONTACT HIM. ALSO, WE HAVE BAD COMPUTER VIRUS. I SUSPECT WE WILL GO DOWN SHORTLY. MAY I HAVE PERMISSION TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS VIA TEXTING AT LAST 209....PHONE NO. WE TEXT YOU ON B 4 RATHA YATRA? YOU MAY HAVE TO ANSWER THIS VIA MY CELL BY TEXT. IM SENDING YOU TEXT WITH MY NO. INCASE YOU WANT TO REPLY TO THIS VIA TEXT. HE MAY WANT TO HELP BUT DONT WANT TO ASK UNTIL I FIND OUT IF SEMINAR ORGANIZER NEEDS TO BE YOUR DISCIPLE. YWS KALINDI DEVI DASI AND DAVE

HpS - ASA - Jaya. AgtSP. Paoho. Good luck with your anti-virus service to your labor saving device, computer! Yes, we got your Text Message and we will answer by text.

About guru ..

10 years, 9 months ago by Bhaktin Belen S. in Personal Sadhana Reports, Special Category A, Hot Topics

Dear gurudeva,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
All glories to you
Please accept my humble obeisances.

Than you so much for your answer. I was reading SB and thinking a bit about it. I want to share you...

So, from what I understand, the real spiritual master is just one: Krsna. But because we are conditional souls with lusty desires in our heart, we can not understand, love neither surrender to him. As he is so kind that help us sending pure devotees that represent him, for we can surrender to them. And in this way, surrendering to those souls is like surrender to Krsna himself, regardless the kind of guru (siksa, diksa, etc).

HpS - ASA - AGTSP!!! Yes, this is how we under stand the situtation. Very well expressed. You must have been a great Sannyasi last lifetime who was too much attached to a certain girl! This time you have to resolve the situation! Only thought is that we surrender to different kinds of Gurus differently.

So, disciple following Krishna's instructions through these souls. And technically the only difference between this devotees is that diksa-guru is who take our hand and bring us into the parampara. But as much diksa as and siksa gurus should be very important because by their mercy, they help us to return home, back to Godhead through their instructions. "The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth."

ASA - Diksa guru is like a Monk who marries the boy and girl, Krsna and Jiva. Siksa gurus are like those who give advice. Of course, the Diksa guru is active the the relation after the ceremony. He is not just a Ritvik. He is the active link to the Parampara. Principle Siksa guru (Vartmana pradarshika guru) usually becomes the Diksa guru, but not always. Maybe he is too old, can't take the Karma. Maybe is a lady (http://vedabase.com/en/sb/4/12/32). So, usually Diksa guru is one of the Siksa gurus also. One of our disciples is a book distributor. She naturally tooks so much association from Bhakti Bhusan Swami but we were responsible for seeing that she didn't neglect her rounds.
Maybe you will decide that you actually should be a Mormon. Maybe you will take this person aor that person as Diksa guru. Basis is to advance in our service to Radha Krsna and the it will all be satisying to everyone!

Then, as you say, while in spiritual world someone follow Candravali or Radha and some are mixing both, something like this happens in this material world too. While I am accepting gurus who follow the path of instruction given by Lord Krsna to Arjuna, everything will be right. Is it? I mean "gurus" because I don't have only one. I already can see my Gurus clearly: SP, Mhtma and you. Then, I am not following just one... also I am mixing both relationships in the same direction: that of Srila Prabhupada =D Is it right?

HpS - If you are ready to accept Srila Prabhupada as your Sampradaya Acharya and not Lord Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed. I know very nice Sufi guy in Mar de Plata. He left Argentina looking for a Guru. Eventually in the Middle East he met a very nice person, Guru, and asked, "What are you?". Guru said, "I am Sufi". He said, "That's what I want to be."
If he had joined ISKCON he would have been a GBC Secretary by now. Very nice person.

On the other hand, another topic... A devotee that is living in the temple now, wants to give me her deities to take care. They are Gaura Nitai. Do you think that I am able to do it ? ... That it will be good for me to have them?

Hp S - ASA - I think so. Ask local Brahmanas what they think. She will be traveling and you will just care for them like an Aunt?

Thank you for teach me always lovingly,
Mangala aratik with you by SM is such nice. Thank you for that.

Ys,
Bhktn Belén

HpS - ASA - AGTSP!! Paoho. Oink! Oink!!!

Urban Monk - Book Review

10 years, 9 months ago by hps in Special Category A

From: HpSwami

To: Sriman Gadadhara Paandita Das,
www.urbanmonkbook.comm

Paoho. AGTSP! I just finished going through your book. It was easy to read.

It seems that is designed for newcomers and not devotees. As a devotee I skimmed over the presentation of philosophy etc and followed your personal spiritual development and the history of your Sankirtan efforts.

Of course, devotees like ourselves should read it so that we can distribute it to proper people.

So many of the Sankirtan experiences that you recount we have seen other places also, in the BI for example. Also Prabhupada gave specific instructions to B. S. Damodara Swami to do some of the things you did with success!

Are you on the level of constant remembrance? Seems like you fully Krsna conscious but now you have to become fully and INTENSELY K.C., no?

Finally, we are working with Sesa Das and the Ministry of Education for all this educational development, so we hope that we can all be of mutual benefit to each other.

Thank you so much.

Engage us in you service as you can!

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