An inquiry regarding the translation of Bhagavad-gita 17.9/Consulta sobre la traducción del Bhagavad-gita 17.9

1 month, 3 weeks ago by bhaktanicasio in Special Category A

Hare Krishna, Gurudev.

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I am writing to you because, while reading the Bhagavad-gita (Chapter 17, Text 9), where the foods dear to each mode of nature are described, I noticed a detail in the translation of certain Sanskrit terms that I would humbly like to share with you.

From my familiarity with Ayurveda, where the twenty attributes (gunas) and the six tastes (rasas) are studied, I understand that these terms have very specific meanings. In the word-for-word translation of the verse, I noticed that:

  • The term katu is translated as "bitter," when traditionally tikta is "bitter," and katu refers to "pungent."
  • In turn, the word tiksna is translated as "pungent," when its meaning within the gunas is closer to "intense," "sharp," or "penetrating."


This led me to wonder, with all due respect, if the BBT's translation team is aware of these nuances and maintains them for a specific reason, or if it is something that might be considered for future editions.

Of course, this observation is purely technical and does not at all impede the transmission of Srila Prabhupada's instruction, nor does it diminish the immense potency of the Bhagavad-gita. I am simply sharing it as a reflection that arose from my study, with no intention of offending anyone.

Thank you very much, Gurudev.

Your servant,

Nikunja Bihari das.


HpS - Hare Krsna. Thank you very many! Maybe these are English word usages that were prominent during the time of Bhaktisiddhant Sarasvati.

For example, I think at that time one might say that he went into the Bosses office and he was, "making love to his secretary". In current common English that my community uses, this would be interpreted as complete physical, sexual interaction, but at the time of Bh. Siddhanta, beginning of the 20th century (India) it would mean by what my community means, "flirting, hitting on her", verbal interplay.

Where are the translations you are using coming from?

Is very nice, practical discussion.



Hare Krishna, Gurudev.

Por favor, acepte mis humildes reverencias.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Le escribo porque, mientras leía el Bhagavad-gita (capítulo 17, texto 9), donde se describen los alimentos preferidos en cada modalidad, noté un detalle en la traducción de ciertos términos en sánscrito que me gustaría compartir humildemente con usted.

Desde mi familiaridad con el Ayurveda, donde se estudian los veinte atributos (gunas) y los seis sabores (rasas), entiendo que estos términos tienen significados muy específicos. En la traducción palabra por palabra del verso, noté que:

  • El término katu se traduce como "amargo", cuando tradicionalmente tikta es "amargo" y katu se refiere a lo "picante".
  • A su vez, la palabra tiksna se traduce como "picante", cuando su significado dentro de las gunas es más cercano a "intenso", "penetrante" o "agudo".


Esto me llevó a preguntarme, con todo respeto, si el equipo de traducción del BBT es consciente de estos matices y los mantiene por alguna razón específica, o si es algo que podría considerarse para futuras ediciones.

Por supuesto, esta observación es puramente técnica y no impide en absoluto la transmisión de la instrucción de Srila Prabhupada ni opaca la inmensa potencia del Bhagavad-gita. Simplemente lo comparto como una reflexión surgida de mi estudio, sin intención de ofender a nadie.

Muchas gracias, Gurudev.

Su sirviente,

Nikunja Bihari das.


Interest..! Traveling with ASA

Hare Krishna, Gurudev dandavat pranama...

Pamho agtSp...;


HpS - So nice, agtSP, to get your association.


I saw in your WhatsApp channel that you need actors and director I have interest to know whats your plan for that and what is all about. Maybe we can help with this artistic project...

I hope you're in good health and that we can see each other soon

Your servant

Parama Karuna das



HpS - Thank you. We were referring to travel companions et al, for this tour: Nashville, Dallas, Madrid (NVM), Chile, Lima, USA.

Because of our general abilities at 77-years old, we should probably be traveling with a companion.

Of course, if we have attendant to and from the airplane door, then we should expect good care by the airlines.

NIOS has funds to contribute to travel costs of people.

Of course, the overwhelming nature of anything realistic in Kali-yuga is Sankirtan, so, while traveling, we are looking for partners in Sankirtan, movie making, improvisational theater.

Right now. I think we will travel alone mostly to Spain, as the tickets on our flight to Madrid have probably gone through the roof by now.

Then, India, Santiago... probably with Yadu Swami.

Yet, if someone wants to go along with their ideas of Sankirtan. Filming whatever ASA TSKP does that is fine with us.

We publish our itenararies.

Thank you.!

Vishvareta

1 month, 3 weeks ago by jaya krishna das in Special Category A

Hare Krishna, Maharaja and Devotees.


We have lost another disciple of Prabhupada today, Vishvareta Prabhu. I met him in India in the 80's and reconnected with him in Miami. He, without a doubt, was my very good friend. Anyone that came in contact with him will say the same.


He departed today in the glorious month of Kartika surrounded by devotees. Oh, if only I could be so fortunate.


I am sharing a picture of him and me in New Vrndavaba 1986. This material world is so temporary and we (more me) are baffled to believe we will be eternally healthy and good looking.


I plan to be more active here as long as no one is offended


YS


Jaya Krishna das


HpS/ASA - AgtSP!! We had little contact with Prabhu. Of course, his son, Bhakti Visvareta was famous for being attended by by Prabhupada and leading Kirtan even as a child.

We will chant the Maha-mantra in front of his picture, and ask other so also chant!!

If you like, keep a picture of him prominent in your Ashrama and chant Maha-mantra in front of it as you decide, no?



Sreedam's pastimes...continued..

1 month, 4 weeks ago by Sarada Gaurangi Devi Dasi in Special Category A

https://youtu.be/ZJ9W2HjJ36o?si=UoPz443Ximz2mZbO


ASA - This is beyond human imagination. Contrasts with the links that Pratijalpa Devi Dasi sent us.

We have been doing lots of work with the Calendar for next Quarter: January - March.

Got Vyasapuja in Nashville, Christmas to Madrid, and now working with Yadu Swami for one month in India.

We hope to do Govardhana Eco Village, Kolkatta, Mayapura, MANIPUR, Radha Kunda.


then .... maybe Santiago, Chile!!


We depend on others for practical details.

Yadu Swami and devotees from Spain are working on this.

Links🥰

2 months ago by Radha Japa in Special Category A, Other

Please accept my humble obeisances to your beautiful lotus feet: Pushpanjali to them!!!💐🌹🪷🌻🪷🌹🌼🌺🪷💐🌼🌹🌺🌻🪷💐🌹🌺🌼🌹🌻🪷All Glories To Srila Prabhupada!!! All Glories To You my Spiritual Master!!!


HpS/ASA - AgtSP. Paoho. We scanned your respected letter and followed one of the links to the Krsna drama but couldn't focus on it very well.

Local programs are absorbing us right now!!!

Hare Krsna.

Thank you for all your wonderful responses! You always go out of your way to respond and help us as best you can. It's perfect for me; your answers are comprehensive, wonderful, and thought-provoking. I hope to reciprocate your kind treatment forever.

Here I am sending You a photo of my small but sweet Radhastami celebration. That day I had no connection and could not join your class... I still wish to find it, as well as the one for Janmastami and the one of Sri Prabhupada's appearance celebration.

I am sending You these links. One is from the Radha Krsna series, where the mantra: Gange ca Yamune caiva.. is chanted loudly🩷... then from the same series, a part of the rasa lila, and the other is how Sri Mahadeva enters the rasa lila! and how his deity Gopesvara is there... I would so love to visit these places!!!

Balarama always takes care of Krsna. I hope it makes him laugh a lot. There's a part where they're searching for Radha and Krsna in the forest, and Balarama warns Krsna in a very funny way that they're close :

https://youtu.be/CqEqAD3xXXU?si=M6YyPG5tL9KCoCEE


Gange ca Yamune caiva : very wonderful!

https://youtu.be/TnaDuJpTlr0?si=z8yxfgM7eZN_wAqh



A part of the rasa lila :

https://youtu.be/0VWDcAw2XAY?si=cLG6Mnz4_xCsBzkm



Sri Mahadeva enters the rasa lila! 😃:

https://youtu.be/c5ygxpvy2fs?si=xWlPvBrM1JV99-80


In this Radha and Krishna series, as far as I can understand, Jatila and Lalita or Vishaka are playing the villains. It's funny to see this. Thanks to Srila Prabhupada, I can understand things as they are. But I like to see the details of things here, the humor, etc.

🎵🌹🌼🌺💐🎵🌹🌼🌺💐🎵


I'm also sharing some drawings of Bheem, the idea is that he's BalaRama and he's so strong! It's very funny and today I showed them to Ladhu Gopal so he could see. They don't speak, but they're very easy to understand, they're wonderful! I hope he likes them:


https://youtu.be/fi8S-jFcco8?si=gHUVgm2VrF_4TthX


Please forgive me for any offense I may have unintentionally caused in this letter. Get well soon! May you be happier and happier! Jaya Gurumaharaja! Jaya Srila Prabhupada!

Always trying to please You:

Japa Prati Jalpa Radha Devi dasi

P.D

I wanted to tell you that I remembered that on Janmastami and Srila Prabhupada's appearance day I was connected to your morning and afternoon classes, but since there was no translation, I thought I hadn't heard it, even though we recorded it!!! . On the day of radhastami, unfortunately for me, I didn't have a connection that day and I couldn't listen to your wonderful class! .. I'm very sorry because that day the devotees couldn't transmit it, so I couldn't download it.

If anyone recorded the Rashastami class, I would appreciate it if you shared it with me, and I would share my recording on Janmastami and Srila Prabhupada's Appearance Day. Thank you so much🙏🌹🌺💐🎵❤️






Annual Reports

2 months, 1 week ago by hps in Special Category A

Hare Krsna.

Body little ill, but nothing stops us dancing up The Hill.

We hear that death is most desired because then our spiritual body is fully free and reinspired.


Answered a lot if Annual Reports.

But still a shoreless ocean left.

I think they are merged with 2023 reports.

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Last few moments in Middle Tennessee.


Packing like mad on TV.


Outside the trees are still green, the sky still blue, and the big white clouds on the wind are flew.


Will text ngd now to see if we walk.

Hare EkaDase