Thoughts about TLC (introduction). Urgent

8 years, 6 months ago by Isvari devi dasi in Special Category A

Hare Krsna Dear Maharaja,

PAMHO. AGTSP.

Hare Krsna, Mataji et al!   We didn't see the "Urgent" tucked in beside the rest of the Title of this letter!

I hope you are very happy with your beloved Krsna.

HpS - We are still very happy with our beloved body and mind, but in the association of Srila Prabhupada, Lord Nrsmhadeva, FMP Sanga, we are beginning to remember our good friend. We are really sick.

Here, I present my reflections about Introduction and preface:

I listed in paragraphs, I found 50.
Pf (abbreviation of paragraph)

1.-In introduction there are several topics: Immortality of Krsna and soul, creation, pleasure of Krsna. method of knowledge, etc. Is a summary of conclusions from the teachings of Bg and SBG.

2.-In paragraph 29 it is mentioned that pleasure power is absent in us, that is why we are looking for a man or a woman, but it seems to me that this lack is stronger in the male body because in paragraph 7 it says: that the most powerful shackle of Maya is female.

HpS - What about attachment of ladies for children?  I expect as we continue the study these questions will become more and more answered, no?

3.-Here is a challenge for a practitioner; It is said that in order to learn to obtain the pleasure of Krsna we must read SBG chant 10 but also clarifies that unless we do not understand Krsna we can not understand that power (pf 25), and  pf 18 says TLC (whose objective is to understand Krsna) starts from the point when one surrenders to Krsna (no material attachment), that is  when you already accept the BG, there just begun Athato brahma jijnasu. Great majority of us are still in cap 2 of BG, long road.

HpS - But, we are also taking the mercy of Lord Caitanya in Hari-nama Kirtan. So we are getting advanced knowledge from that source. Like someone who is studying Chemistry in the University but has an Uncle who is a Nobel Laureate in Chemistry with whom he associates a lot, no?

4.-pf 35: Krsna methodology teaching?: parampara system has 2 processes: external (SM) and internal (by heart). paf 38:Vedica evidence (sabdha) is the transcendental sound, sound is very important, will it read aloud?, and And it is necessary to purify heart so that the internal process by heart can be given.

HpS - Damodara Das, great historian, told me that he read that once, like 15th -16th century, a monk entered his monestery and he was shocked, scandalized to see the behavior of another monk, he was reading the Bible and his lips weren't moving.  Ha!  Ha!  Ha!      So, yes, sure seems, and we have personal experience that it is different, but not necessarily always better, to read outloud or at least with the lips, tongue and jaw moving.

Lord Caitanya method: Love (teaching us how to love Krsna). And it is necessary to purify heart so that the internal process by heart can be given.

Lord Caitanya and Krsna different character and method. I think the challenge is to find the balance between these 2 methods.

HpS - In the beginning maybe a balance is necessay. Also, balancing our visits to Mayapura and Braja, but later we realize that they both are 100% essential, achintya-bheda-acheda and we learn how to be fully involved with both.

5.-And And finally to become immortal, BG 14.19 simply go beyond the 3 modalities, and we will become heroes and finally to become immortal, BG 14.19 simply go beyond the 3 modalities, and we will become heroes.

thank you very much Maharaja encourage us to read and join in this great venture, I am very sure that Mr. Chaitanya is very happy with you for helping us understand his teachings.

with affection

ys and spiritual niece

Isvari dd

HpS - Thank you for such nice insights. Tomorrow we will review the Preface.

Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.13 to 1.2.21

Hare Krishna Maharaj,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Summary of last week’s Srimad Bhagavatam 1.2.12 to 1.2.21 :

Verses 1-5 : Suta  goswami’s reply with obeisances.

Verse 6 -7 – Answers to Questions 1 and 2

Verses 8-15 : Only Bhakti should be the goal of any activity we do.

Verses 16-21 The progression in Bhagavatam– Suta Shiksha

Details of the verses:

V13: VAD for smoother  functioning of the society not for oppressing the weaker sections.  The ultimate goal of VAD is Hari tosanam. Pleasing the Supreme Lord.

V14: 4 processes of obtaining the absolute truth Srotavya – hear about Kirtitavya – glorify dhyeyah – remember, pujya – worship.

V15:  We can get liberated from knots of reactionary work by remembering Krishna constantly.

V16:

Mahatsevaya – service to pure devotees.  This is stage 2 . Before that we need the mercy of those devotees whom we want to serve. So

1. Mercy of the pure devotees

2. Service to pure devotees

3. Faith – Shradha. This is not blind faith. The faith we developed by serving the pure devotees.

4. Punya tirtha. Tirtha means guru. Then we take shelter of Guru.

5. Eagerness to worship: Vasudeva katha ruci. We develop taste for hearing the messages of Krishna.

V17:

For the devotee who has developed the urge to hear the messages of Krishna, He personally cleanses the desire for material enjoyment from the devotees’ heart.

V18: Nasta prayesu

6. Bhakti – bhaktir bhavati . Devotional service to the Supreme Lord.

7, Disappearance of obstacles:  nasta prayesu abhadresu. Inauspicious things like nama aparadas disappear.

8. nishta : then steadiness achieved. Naishtiki.

HpS - ASA -- We remember hear Srila Prabhupada comment on this and say that this "steadiness" was always chanting our rounds, always getting up in the morning, not sometimes yes, and sometimes, no. Then he said that this was (!) 80% Krsna conscious.

V19:

Once we achieve steadiness in devotional service modes of passion and ignorance disappear. Lust, hankering, desire will no longer bother us. Devotee will be situated in the mode of goodness and will be happy.

9. ruci : Spiritual taste: Aruchi for the sense objects results in actual spiritual taste anavidham rajas tamah. No affected by passion and ignorance.

10. Asakti – Sthitam – firmly attached.

V20:

11. Rati: Fondness.  Prasanna manasa  Enlivened mind. When fondness for the Lord arises, mind is enlivened.

12.  Prema : Devotional love.  Bhagavat bhakti yogatah.

13: Vision or audience : Bhagavt tattva vijananam. Experience of Krishna form , pastimes etc.

14. Direct experience of the Lord’s sweetness. Bhagavat tattva vijananam.

V21:

Once we see the Lord, we can see ourselves also in proper perspective.

Next week’s syllabus is 1.2.22 to 1.2.29.

Thank you.

Your servant,

Sundari Radhika dd.

HpS - ASA -- Thank you!  We are getting more and more educated by these classes. When does Ananta-rupa Das get back?

Teaching of Lord Caitanya Study Group

8 years, 7 months ago by jagad.guru.das in Special Category A, Calendar Development

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada, 

Dear guru maharaja,

I would like join myself to the Teaching of Lord Caitanya Study Group, which you're creating.

Since some months ago I have thought star a regular reading of it, but I don't have the first impetus to star it.

Thank you very much for thIS kind of opportunities.

Hare Krishna.

hPs - PLEASE JOIN. SEE THE LETTER WE JUST WROTE 2 NAMA ACHARYA DAS

URGENT : TLC study time schedule

8 years, 7 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A, Calendar Development

Guru Maharaja,

in response to this:

http://hps-d6.monkeywarrior.com/node/7731

 

I am not sure I will make it for Saturday's meeting where TLC study timings will be discussed.

For us ( NDD and ND) , weekends and mid-days are not practical. Friday or Monday evening will be good. So, let's see if that will be practical for others.

We do not want to be the obstruction. So if our feasible timings are not practical for other devotees, we will withdraw from the study group.
It is not that this makes me happy, but it will be difficult to commit if from the beginning I know there are some impracticalities. I understand that we are all in different time zones and have everyday duties, so is not easy to find a fixed time period for many meetings that fits the whole world.

Hoverer, if we do not make it to this study group, I am convinced that there is some other way to engage in Krsna-katha :-)

 

Your servant Namacarya das

 

ps: Your Start Meeting recordings do NOT have the download option anymore. Before it used to be there, now is no more.

 

HpS-ASA: Well, HK/HR, you did make it, and we did discuss all this stuff there. 1] We will all read http://www.vedabase.com/en/tlc/introduction, the Introduction, and then have discussion group next Saturday at 8AM ACT. 2] Everyone can/will write to the Blog with realizations, including Croatians and their Spice, and 3] We have another discussion group at 1pm ACT = 7pm Croatia time.

Is O.K?

Trash170317

8 years, 7 months ago by hps in Special Category A

Hare Krsna, Hare Rama,
Worship Radha, worship Shyama,

TB-Jack London said that before you can write even one word worth publishing you must write 100,000 words of trash, so start writing trash.

BW-For some of us it may take more trash than others. Keep writing.

TB-We clipped the NOI and spiral-bound it so that it will lay open on our camp table and we may type with both hands and still cite from it. Piggy, BW, is determined to read it 51-times. He thinks he might even be able to memorize the whole thing. That is very good, but it is also very important to understand the content in terms of the times and places of our modern world and then cite relevent passages. Ultimately it is not our book. We are delivering ito Sita Devi, but we can show here our Foreword, In-line Paragraph Titles, Foot-notes, End-notes and Afterwords.