HARE KRISHNA

8 years, 5 months ago by raktak in Special Category A

Guru-Lila-Part 7

Monday 21st March 2016-in Pune-------We went to the Mangal Arti with Guruji and it was very fired-up, so many devotees and especially, so many Bramhacharis.  Here in Brisbane-Australia, there is no Bramhachari, though we see some visiting Bramhachari devotees from other temples, sometimes.  I was dancing, because all other devotees were dancing and one feels inspired to dance, having seen them dancing ecstatically.  After Mangal Arti, someone requested Guruji to give a short talk about Chanting during Japa period, and guruji did deliver an inspiring talk about chanting for a short while 2-3 minutes.  After some time, we came back and got ready to go to the older temple.

And now we are on the way to the old ISKCON temple in Pune, though they have very magnificent, grand new temple, but they are still maintaining old temple, so many devotees are living there, again many bramhacharis, beautiful Radha-Krishna deities are there namely Radha-Kunjabihari and whole atmosphere is like typical ISKCON temple.  When we reached there, we saw devotees welcoming Guruji by offering very sweet kirtan and then, escorting him to the temple.  We all are there with guruji; our host Ajita Nitai Prabhu from Pune, Harsh Prabhu and Girivardhari-Gopal Prabhu and myself, you would see all these things in the attached video clip, HARE KRISHNA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--EsaJVnCc

Photo-Guruji is watching Lord Tirupati Balaji's Picture and is reading the prayer, do not wonder, Guruji knows how to read Devnagri script and even can understand it, if it is not too comlicated.

HpS - ASA --- A flasch back in time to our last visit to India. We feel strange being called "Guru Ji". Interesting title, "Maharaja" might be something we can aspire for more practically. We are lucky if we can aspire to be Goswamis in the dust of our ISKCON Guru, Srila Prabhupada.

We are planning for visit to India again, now. We have to taste Krsna consciousness then we have something to distribute, become electric cables for God, no?

We hope Raktaka Das is getting ready for Vanaprastha and Sannyasa.  Raktaka Das, please send us a spiritual clip of your good family members, each one.

AmD Propuestas 2016

Dear Gurudeva

Por favor acepte mis humildes reverencias.

Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!

Siempre para un discípulo es incómodo que se den ciertas críticas a su Guru, a pesar de que al Guru no le afecten por estar en una plataforma trascendental, el discípulo es afectado en cierta medida… Recuerdo el pasatiempo del Mahabharatha y la actitud de los Pandavas cuando Sisupala insulto a Krsna…

El hecho de que Usted tenga su servicio más inclinado a la prédica, hace que pocos conozcan su sincero deseo e interés de que Iskcon mejore administrativamente, y que algunos conozcan las enormes destrezas que tiene Usted para poder apoyar a Iskcon en ese aspecto, y otros pocos saben lo respetuoso y caballero, que es como Usted siempre se ha presentado ante los lideres administrativos de Iskcon…

Aquí en Perú, algunos discípulos hemos tenido responsabilidades administrativas en Iskcon, pero los últimos años por diferentes razones, hemos ido dejando esos servicios para involucrarnos más en la predica, porque muchos de ellos también son profesores, y es más apropiado para su naturaleza…

El decir que nosotros (sus discípulos) no queremos asumir responsabilidades administrativas, en la misión de Srila Prabhupada, o que Usted no nos inspira o motiva para eso, es un juicio que carece de análisis.

Usted en el 2006 me sugirió que tal vez en el futuro, yo podría apoyar al GBC local… Después de 10 años, tengo sus palabras en el corazón, y aunque tengo muchas debilidades y anarthas, tal vez algunas de mis pocas habilidades puedan servir para el trabajo administrativo… Hay algo que me dijeron los astrólogos que leyeron mi carta, es que tengo una especie de estrella para sacar a flote aquello que se está hundiendo….

Si Usted me autoriza, quisiera escribirle a Jayapataka Swami Maharaj, una carta proponiéndole apoyarlo como Supervisor de GBC, que es el servicio que está faltando actualmente, con una serie de propuestas, que hemos ido evaluando en los años que estamos Iskcon… De hecho Maharaj debe tener mejores opciones, así que estaremos muy felices de haberlo intentado…

                      Esperamos su respuesta

                                       Su tonto discípulo AmD.

Dear Gurudeva

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada !!!

Always for a disciple is uncomfortable that certain criticisms are given to your Guru, despite the Guru does not be affected by being in a transcendental platform, the disciple is affected to some extent ... I remember the pastime of the Mahabharata and the attitude of the Pandavas when Krsna was insulted by Sisupala ...

The fact that You have your service more inclined to preaching, makes few know Your sincere desire and interest that Iskcon improves administratively, and that some are aware of the enormous skills You have to support Iskcon in that regard, and others few know how respectful and gentleman, that is how You  have always presented yourself before the administrative leaders of Iskcon ...

Here in Peru, some disciples have had administrative responsibilities in Iskcon, but in recent years for various reasons, have been leaving these services to get more involved in preaching, because many of them are also teachers, and is more appropriate for nature ...

Saying that we (Your disciples) dont want to assume administrative responsibilities, in the mission of Srila Prabhupada, or that You do not inspire or motivate for that, is a judgment that lacks of analysis.

You in 2006 suggested that perhaps in the future, I could support the local GBC ... After 10 years, I have Your words in the heart, and although I have many weaknesses and anarthas, maybe some of my few skills may serve the administrative work ... There's something astrologers told me they read in my letter, is that I have a kind of a star that brings out what is sinking ....

If you authorize me, I would write to Jayapataka Swami Maharaj, a letter proposing to support as a GBC Supervisor, which is the service that is currently lacking, with a series of proposals, that we have been evaluating in the years that we are in Iskcon ... In fact Maharaj, You may have better options, so we will be very glad we have tried ...

                      We will be waiting for your answer

                                       Your silly disciple Amd.

HpS - Hare Krsna. Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada. Estamos esforzando participar en ISKCON, ISKCON Peru, el major que podemos. We Love Peru, pero, claro, tenemos nuestras propio ideas como ayudar.  De una manera nuestra perspectivo, y eso es abierto para ideas de otros, es que Daru Krsna Prabhu creo (created) un Empiro, lo cual el mismo no pudio manejar (that he himself could not manage). Entonces es necesario readjustar la estructura general de ISKCON Peru.

Un idea.

Entonces estuvimos esforzando trabajar en la area de Educaion, incluyendo sankirtan en estas areas, universidades..., y adoracion de la deidad.  Eso aparece como un porcion manejable. Tenemos ideas como ayudar economicament Radha Madan Bihari, y esforzando implementar ellos.
Basicamente necisitamos un comunicacion poco mas fluido con la administracion para ser util. Y pienso con Karuna-krsna Das, todo, estaba adelantando.

Maharaja, Jayapataka, me dijo que bueno es communicar, coordinar con Atmarama Das y Madre Divya priya Devi Dasi. Entonces es bueno hablar, presentar sus ideas a ellos, antes de pasar ellos con ellos al Maharaja.

O.K?

citations from Neal Delmonico aka Nitai das

Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

In Introduction of D. Haberman's rendition of Bhaktirasamrtasindhu, there are  citations from Neal Delmonico (aka Nitai das). Considering the case Nitai had with Srila Prabhupada, how should we take that D. Haberman cites Nitai?

 

AC Bhaktivedanta Swami - Letter to: ALL GBC MEMBERS -- Vrindaban 15 September, 1976

NOTE TO ALL GBC MEMBERS:

Please let it be known that Nitai has become a venomous serpent. Be careful of him.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: ALL GBC MEMBERS -- Vrindaban 15 September, 1976

 

 

Your servant Namacarya das

 

HpS - Thank you very much. We did not know his secular name. Prabhupada praised s book that Satsvarupa Maharaja wrote for university students, dating that he had chief Si many demons but his bio had not been contaminated.

We would have to look at the individual citations. We disagree with some of the things D Haberman says. We try to use it for its practical knowledge. DH respects devotees, devotee scholars.

. Lord Chaitanya took Sannyasa in Mayavadu sampradaya took reach the scholars etc.

O.K?

question about comments after your Janmastami lecture

8 years, 5 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A

Dear Guru Maharaja, PAMHO AGTSP

There was a comment after your Janmastami lecture (Hawaii). I did not understand it. It was something about a painting in the dungeon with Visnu, Devaki and Vasudeva made wrong. Please can you tell what was comment about?

HpS - AGTSP!   Paoho.... It was by Vidugdha Das. He was pointing out that most of the pictures of the birth of Krsna show an adult Visnu with four arms, but the text says that the four armed form was a baby. Even the BBT art seems to have the adult.

Also, you commented about some kind of wrongness about morning kirtan in SP samadhi in Vrindavan. But the sound was not clear, so I could not follow what you were saying (neither devotees present could). Can you maybe explain here about that?

HpS - Myself and former President, Scottish devotee, cant remember his name now, both object to the Mangala arati song in the Temple in Vrndavana, not the Samadhi. It was added of course after Prabhupada left. It is an Aruna day kirtan. It says right in the song, "The rays of the morning sun are coming", no?

Thank you!

Your servant Namacarya das

Thank you!!!  >>>>

Jagāi and Mādhāi as Jaya and Vijaya

8 years, 5 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A

Dear Guru Maharaja, PAMHO AGTSP
In Hawaii class SB 3.15.32  September 22, 2016, there was a question to you  for sastra reference about Jagāi and Mādhāi  being  Jaya and Vijaya. I am posting it here, if it is still needed.
Your servant Namacarya das

HpS - Thank you!!!   I will forward it to Ramananda Das!  He can send it to Narahari Das.

ps: In the class there was a mention of the cartoonist wearing shirts and t-shirt :-)

CC Ādi 10.120

mahā-kṛpā-pātra prabhura jagāi, mādhāi
‘patita-pāvana’ nāmera sākṣī dui bhāi
Word for word: 
mahā-kṛpā-pātra — object of very great mercy; prabhura — of the Lord; jagāi mādhāi — the two brothers Jagāi and Mādhāi; patita-pāvana — deliverer of the fallen; nāmera — of this name; sākṣī — witness; dui bhāi — these two brothers.
Translation: 
Jagāi and Mādhāi, the eighty-ninth and ninetieth branches of the tree, were the greatest recipients of Lord Caitanya’s mercy. These two brothers were the witnesses who proved that Lord Caitanya was rightly named Patita-pāvana, “the deliverer of the fallen souls.”
Purport: 

In the Gaura-gaṇoddeśa-dīpikā (115) it is said that the two brothers Jagāi and Mādhāi were formerly the doorkeepers named Jaya and Vijaya, who later became Hiraṇyākṣa and Hiraṇyakaśipu. Jagāi and Mādhāi were born in respectable brāhmaṇa families, but they adopted the professions of thieves and rogues and thus became implicated in all kinds of undesirable activities, especially woman-hunting, intoxication and gambling. Later, by the grace of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, they were initiated, and they got the chance to chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. As a result of chanting, both brothers became exalted devotees of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. The descendants of Mādhāi still exist, and they are respectable brāhmaṇas. The tombs of these two brothers, Jagāi and Mādhāi, are in a place known as Ghoṣahāṭa, or Mādhāitalā-grāma, which is situated about one mile south of Katwa. It is said that Śrī Gopīcaraṇa dāsa Bābājī established a temple of Nitāi-Gaura at this place about two hundred fifty years ago.

few words

8 years, 5 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A
 
<big>Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!</big>
 
<big>First let me thank you for inspiration and encouragement to write here to the Blog. Also, you wrote in a letter to Prahlad Nrsimha : “We suffer the same thing. Don't want to talk about our problems until we solve them, but a lot of solving them, is to talk about them. “ This very much made sense to me. My need is to talk openly. Without fear of being rejected. Share realizations, thoughts and doubts. You in a very nice way encourage all that.</big>
 
<big>you wrote:</big>
<big>Is there anyone else who holds these principles the same as we do, amongst our God-brothers?</big>
<big>One of our greatest concerns in that ISKCON Sannyasis become pets kept by pious ISKCON householders to satisfy the Grhastha's sentiments: Here is my parrot, here is my cook, here is my Guru.</big>
<big>If you are a Sannyasi you should have a passion to do something new, no?  Then, how can the Institution support you, because it is something new, so the Institution has no existence there yet.</big>
<big>None of the instruments we have in ISKCON now will let us move forward.
We try to contact senior men A...,   N....,   P.....,   T.... about their projects and their vision. We try to contact R.... in Peru.
</big>
<big>No one seems alive on this level, so the only solution is to go back to the roots of our life in Krsna consciousness.   Hmmm.  Does God have a plan?   Does He know the future?  Is a war coming, that will break all the rules and leave us only the inspiration of the Paramatma to do anything in this comedy?</big>
<big>It is new to me that a sannyasi should do something new? What kind is this “new”? Is it  preaching projects?</big>
<big>HpS - Yes, Sannyasa is meant for serving Krsna. Maya is always giving newer and newer tricks to keep us engaged. So we need ever fresh preaching programs. </big>
<big>I agree about your thoughts about Institution. Sometimes it looks to stiff. Even though new ideas are actually just looking new to some leading people in the institution. It is not that because it is new , that it means that there is breaking of vaisnava principles. But somehow, some projects or ideas do not get approved. So, yes, in a way, it can be depressing.</big>
<big>When you say “None of the instruments we have in ISKCON now will let us move forward.” Could you share details about that?</big>
<big>HpS - It is just my personal experience of the world around me. My opinion is that my personal opinions are like everyone elses personal opinions, personal. We need to evaluate other people, devotees, get information from them and then go on developing our understanding of the Sankirtan environment. We heard that two devotees were traveling from Temple to Temple. They would go out day after day and sell 3-5 of the big KRSNA Art books. Devotees tried to find their secret and after they had exhausted the resource it turned out they were selling to Tattoe studios. Hippies are our best customers.
We keep investigating our options. We feel that this educatio area has to go ahead. We need our own primary schools etc.
</big>
<big>When you say to go back to the roots in our life in KC, what does it mean?</big>
<big>HpS - We all have personal reasons that we are attracted to Krsna consciousness, no?  Then we get involved in the insitution and become absorbed in eat, sleeping etc. So our motivations can be superficial. We may take a few months off and get back to deeper, persona, often passionate motivations, otherwise we will dry up.</big>
<big>Your servant Namacarya das</big>
<big>ps: got this weird lines in the letter. Do not know how delete them. Stiil , the letter seems readable</big>
<big>HpS.   I tried applying the "Styles" above and only seems to have made it worse.    These opinions I expressed are our intuitive reactions to the world around us. We see them as a little external, like our mind talking, Brother Ass talking, but very important to some of us.</big>
<big>e.</big>