citations from Neal Delmonico aka Nitai das

Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

In Introduction of D. Haberman's rendition of Bhaktirasamrtasindhu, there are  citations from Neal Delmonico (aka Nitai das). Considering the case Nitai had with Srila Prabhupada, how should we take that D. Haberman cites Nitai?

 

AC Bhaktivedanta Swami - Letter to: ALL GBC MEMBERS -- Vrindaban 15 September, 1976

NOTE TO ALL GBC MEMBERS:

Please let it be known that Nitai has become a venomous serpent. Be careful of him.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: ALL GBC MEMBERS -- Vrindaban 15 September, 1976

 

 

Your servant Namacarya das

 

HpS - Thank you very much. We did not know his secular name. Prabhupada praised s book that Satsvarupa Maharaja wrote for university students, dating that he had chief Si many demons but his bio had not been contaminated.

We would have to look at the individual citations. We disagree with some of the things D Haberman says. We try to use it for its practical knowledge. DH respects devotees, devotee scholars.

. Lord Chaitanya took Sannyasa in Mayavadu sampradaya took reach the scholars etc.

O.K?

question about comments after your Janmastami lecture

7 years, 7 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A

Dear Guru Maharaja, PAMHO AGTSP

There was a comment after your Janmastami lecture (Hawaii). I did not understand it. It was something about a painting in the dungeon with Visnu, Devaki and Vasudeva made wrong. Please can you tell what was comment about?

HpS - AGTSP!   Paoho.... It was by Vidugdha Das. He was pointing out that most of the pictures of the birth of Krsna show an adult Visnu with four arms, but the text says that the four armed form was a baby. Even the BBT art seems to have the adult.

Also, you commented about some kind of wrongness about morning kirtan in SP samadhi in Vrindavan. But the sound was not clear, so I could not follow what you were saying (neither devotees present could). Can you maybe explain here about that?

HpS - Myself and former President, Scottish devotee, cant remember his name now, both object to the Mangala arati song in the Temple in Vrndavana, not the Samadhi. It was added of course after Prabhupada left. It is an Aruna day kirtan. It says right in the song, "The rays of the morning sun are coming", no?

Thank you!

Your servant Namacarya das

Thank you!!!  >>>>

Jagāi and Mādhāi as Jaya and Vijaya

7 years, 7 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A

Dear Guru Maharaja, PAMHO AGTSP
In Hawaii class SB 3.15.32  September 22, 2016, there was a question to you  for sastra reference about Jagāi and Mādhāi  being  Jaya and Vijaya. I am posting it here, if it is still needed.
Your servant Namacarya das

HpS - Thank you!!!   I will forward it to Ramananda Das!  He can send it to Narahari Das.

ps: In the class there was a mention of the cartoonist wearing shirts and t-shirt :-)

CC Ādi 10.120

mahā-kṛpā-pātra prabhura jagāi, mādhāi
‘patita-pāvana’ nāmera sākṣī dui bhāi
Word for word: 
mahā-kṛpā-pātra — object of very great mercy; prabhura — of the Lord; jagāi mādhāi — the two brothers Jagāi and Mādhāi; patita-pāvana — deliverer of the fallen; nāmera — of this name; sākṣī — witness; dui bhāi — these two brothers.
Translation: 
Jagāi and Mādhāi, the eighty-ninth and ninetieth branches of the tree, were the greatest recipients of Lord Caitanya’s mercy. These two brothers were the witnesses who proved that Lord Caitanya was rightly named Patita-pāvana, “the deliverer of the fallen souls.”
Purport: 

In the Gaura-gaṇoddeśa-dīpikā (115) it is said that the two brothers Jagāi and Mādhāi were formerly the doorkeepers named Jaya and Vijaya, who later became Hiraṇyākṣa and Hiraṇyakaśipu. Jagāi and Mādhāi were born in respectable brāhmaṇa families, but they adopted the professions of thieves and rogues and thus became implicated in all kinds of undesirable activities, especially woman-hunting, intoxication and gambling. Later, by the grace of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Śrī Nityānanda Prabhu, they were initiated, and they got the chance to chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. As a result of chanting, both brothers became exalted devotees of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. The descendants of Mādhāi still exist, and they are respectable brāhmaṇas. The tombs of these two brothers, Jagāi and Mādhāi, are in a place known as Ghoṣahāṭa, or Mādhāitalā-grāma, which is situated about one mile south of Katwa. It is said that Śrī Gopīcaraṇa dāsa Bābājī established a temple of Nitāi-Gaura at this place about two hundred fifty years ago.

few words

7 years, 7 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A
 
<big>Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!</big>
 
<big>First let me thank you for inspiration and encouragement to write here to the Blog. Also, you wrote in a letter to Prahlad Nrsimha : “We suffer the same thing. Don't want to talk about our problems until we solve them, but a lot of solving them, is to talk about them. “ This very much made sense to me. My need is to talk openly. Without fear of being rejected. Share realizations, thoughts and doubts. You in a very nice way encourage all that.</big>
 
<big>you wrote:</big>
<big>Is there anyone else who holds these principles the same as we do, amongst our God-brothers?</big>
<big>One of our greatest concerns in that ISKCON Sannyasis become pets kept by pious ISKCON householders to satisfy the Grhastha's sentiments: Here is my parrot, here is my cook, here is my Guru.</big>
<big>If you are a Sannyasi you should have a passion to do something new, no?  Then, how can the Institution support you, because it is something new, so the Institution has no existence there yet.</big>
<big>None of the instruments we have in ISKCON now will let us move forward.
We try to contact senior men A...,   N....,   P.....,   T.... about their projects and their vision. We try to contact R.... in Peru.
</big>
<big>No one seems alive on this level, so the only solution is to go back to the roots of our life in Krsna consciousness.   Hmmm.  Does God have a plan?   Does He know the future?  Is a war coming, that will break all the rules and leave us only the inspiration of the Paramatma to do anything in this comedy?</big>
<big>It is new to me that a sannyasi should do something new? What kind is this “new”? Is it  preaching projects?</big>
<big>HpS - Yes, Sannyasa is meant for serving Krsna. Maya is always giving newer and newer tricks to keep us engaged. So we need ever fresh preaching programs. </big>
<big>I agree about your thoughts about Institution. Sometimes it looks to stiff. Even though new ideas are actually just looking new to some leading people in the institution. It is not that because it is new , that it means that there is breaking of vaisnava principles. But somehow, some projects or ideas do not get approved. So, yes, in a way, it can be depressing.</big>
<big>When you say “None of the instruments we have in ISKCON now will let us move forward.” Could you share details about that?</big>
<big>HpS - It is just my personal experience of the world around me. My opinion is that my personal opinions are like everyone elses personal opinions, personal. We need to evaluate other people, devotees, get information from them and then go on developing our understanding of the Sankirtan environment. We heard that two devotees were traveling from Temple to Temple. They would go out day after day and sell 3-5 of the big KRSNA Art books. Devotees tried to find their secret and after they had exhausted the resource it turned out they were selling to Tattoe studios. Hippies are our best customers.
We keep investigating our options. We feel that this educatio area has to go ahead. We need our own primary schools etc.
</big>
<big>When you say to go back to the roots in our life in KC, what does it mean?</big>
<big>HpS - We all have personal reasons that we are attracted to Krsna consciousness, no?  Then we get involved in the insitution and become absorbed in eat, sleeping etc. So our motivations can be superficial. We may take a few months off and get back to deeper, persona, often passionate motivations, otherwise we will dry up.</big>
<big>Your servant Namacarya das</big>
<big>ps: got this weird lines in the letter. Do not know how delete them. Stiil , the letter seems readable</big>
<big>HpS.   I tried applying the "Styles" above and only seems to have made it worse.    These opinions I expressed are our intuitive reactions to the world around us. We see them as a little external, like our mind talking, Brother Ass talking, but very important to some of us.</big>
<big>e.</big>

term Vaisnavi (from SP lectures, conversations, correspondence)

7 years, 7 months ago by Namacarya das in Special Category A, Hot Topics

Vaisnavi

  • Folio hits: 13 lectures, 3 conversations, 2 correspondence, ...

 

 

 

"That personality is Govinda, the Supreme Person. I am offering my respectful obeisances." So Maya is acting under the direction of Krsna just like the shadow is moving under the movement of the original. So Maya's position is not degraded. Don't think like that. Therefore Vaisnava offers all respect to Maya because she is working under Krsna. She is Vaisnavi. She is also energy of Krsna. Therefore she is also Vaisnavi. In the Candi... (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 2.8-12 -- Los Angeles, November 27, 1968

 

 

Devotee: What does the name Vaisnavi mean?

Prabhupada: Vaisnavi?

Devotee: Yes. You gave my daughter the name Vaisnavi.

Prabhupada: Oh.

Pradyumna: It is...

Prabhupada: "Associated with Vaisnava."

Devotee: I saw in Krsna book two you explained that Vaisnavi is another name of Yogamaya.

Prabhupada: Yes. You do not like? (laughter) Yes. So let your daughter become a Durga. Why you are afraid of? So now no more talking. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.1.2 -- London, August 18, 1971

 

 

That is stated in the Caitanya-caritamrta. But Haridasa Thakura was not entrapped, because he was strong, strong enough. Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti. Maya could not do anything. Although Maya came there at dead of night, very beautiful, attractive dress, attractive feature, attractive words -- this is maya -- so he was not allured. The... Rather, the vesya, or the prostitute, became converted into a Vaisnavi.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.5.32 -- Vrndavana, August 13, 1974

 

 

So, in these two verses the important point is that Draupadi is sympathetic. That is Vaisnava. She is Vaisnavi. This is the attitude of the Vaisnava. Para-duhkha-duhkhi. Vaisnava is para-duhkha-duhkhi. That is Vaisnava's qualification. He doesn't care for his own personal distresses. But he, a Vaisnava becomes aggrieved, distressed, when other is suffering.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.47-48 -- Vrndavana, October 6, 1976

 

 

So the feeling of Vaisnava is like that. Similarly, Draupadi is Vaisnavi. She is feeling more than herself, the wife of Dronacarya, mother of Asvatthama, how she will feel. Therefore Vaisnava's qualification is, para-duhkha-duhkhi. Personally a Vaisnava is not unhappy, but a Vaisnava becomes unhappy for others" distress.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.47-48 -- Vrndavana, October 6, 1976

 

 

But you know the story of Haridasa. He was young man at that time, and one man instigated a prostitute, young prostitute, to deviate him, but she was unable. On the other hand, the prostitute became a Vaisnavi. This is the difference between a devotee and a nondevotee.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.63 -- Vrndavana, August 30, 1975

 

 

Jaya-gopala: What type of living entity is Mayadevi?

Prabhupada: She is Vaisnavi. She is great devotee of Krsna. But she has accepted a thankless task, to punish. The policeman is a sincere government servant, but he has accepted a task, nobody likes him. (laughs)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968

 

 

Just like this child. She has taken birth having Vaisnava father and mother. So she must have been a Vaisnavi or a Vaisnava in her previous life.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 7.91-2 -- Vrndavana, March 13, 1974

 

 

Tamala Krsna: No, no. Is Maya, Mayadevi, a pure devotee?

Prabhupada: Yes, certainly. The police force, are they not honest servant of the government? Does it mean the police force tortures you; therefore they're rejected from the government servant? Their task is thankless task, that's all. Similarly, Maya is also serving Krsna, but there is no thanks. That is the difference. She has taken a thankless task to punish persons who are godless, that's all. So Maya as it is, it is not that she is out of touch of Krsna. Vaisnavi. In the Candi, in the book of Maya, it is state that "Vaisnavi." The Maya is described as Vaisnavi. Just like pure devotee is called Vaisnava, she is also described there as Vaisnavi.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Lecture -- Seattle, September 27, 1968

 

 

This child must be executing devotional service in her past life. Therefore, she has got the opportunity, a Vaisnava father and Vaisnavi mother.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Pandal Lecture -- November 14, 1971, Delhi

 

 

Prabhupada: My first step will be to capture all the hoarders and distribute the grains free. Immediately public will be obliged to... There are immense food grains; they are simply hoarded. They are not selling without good price. This is going on. Immediately she can capture the public. And some of the hoarders should be hanged, yes, so that in future nobody will hoard. People are hungry. And she says she has got some program, garivi hatta(?), "Drive away the poverty." This is the point. If she can supply all consumer goods for the time being free to the poor, then immediately the whole population will be after her. And the hoarders should be exemplary punished. Shoot them, that's all. Then nobody will hoard. But to remain the dictator she requires spiritual knowledge. Otherwise it will be another disaster. If she wants to remain the dictator, then she must be a spiritual man. She must become a Vaisnavi. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- July 10, 1975, Chicago

 

 

Tamala Krsna: Yeah, it's even mentioned in the Krsna book. Prostitutes came out of Dvaraka.

Prabhupada: Yes. In Calcutta in our childhood I have seen many big, big prostitutes, Vaisnavi.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Conversation -- June 23, 1977, Vrndavana

 

 

Prabhupada: Just see. She is natural Vaisnavi. Natural Vaisnavi. So give them proper education. This is real education.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Meeting With Governor of Tamil Nadu -- July 31, 1977, Vrndavana

 

 

Another news is that Mother Syama dasi came to L.A. with some of her Gujarati devotees. She appeared to be nice Vaisnavi.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Yamuna -- Hawaii 13 March, 1969

 

 

So far your daughter, there is already one devotee named Visakha, so instead your daughter may be named Vaisnavi Dasi.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Sucandra -- Tokyo 22 April, 1972

 

 

HpS - ASA -- Thank you. Indira Gandhi was to become a Vaisnavi!
What about "Mataji".  How does that appear?

Crystal radio

7 years, 7 months ago by Nanuk in Special Category A, Hot Topics

PAMHO! Crystal radio is actually the most famous free-energy machine which was widely presented to public. I hope we'll soon get away from this Shiva's technology of heat..  and start to use the cold electricity or still better mantras...  hoping that the AI doesn't get the hold on humanity with the cold electricity. Like it sometimes seems when there is even indications of very time and history changing... and the holy books by the influence of the modes of nature.

The Mandela-effect is the most interesting psychological/quantum physical investigation that I would say the western world can give. In this video about Mandela-effect the bible change in text from lion with lamb to wolf with lamb (Isaiah 11:6)and was changed to a photo with wolf and lambs with all black eyes. It came in effect, according to my investigation about two years ago. There is many things in technology and science that will prove more subtle worlds coming. Still I'm very much attached to Gandharva Veda. All the glories to A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swamin Srila Prabhupada!!

HpS - Thank you. We built a Crystal radio in 7th grade in our school. Takes energy from the AM transmitted radio waves in the air!
By pranayama, chanting and dancing, we can influence so many sublte energies in the body. Are the pieziolectric crystals in the body?