NIMSAR Report and Plans

9 years, 2 months ago by abhinanda in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Hare Krsna SSHPS

PAMHO AGTSP

I hope you have good energy.

I forgot report the following:

1. Baladeva p said it is no necessary for NIMSAR’s teacher to take TTC3, only they need TTC2 because the BS of NIMSAR dont have as finality develop the 12 principles of VTE. (our focus is different).

We just need TTC2 and it is very probable we take the course next year with Parampadam p and Baladeva p here in Lima. (We are in talks).

2. Our connection with National Council is Jiva sakti d (Charge of Education Commission), but several months ago that they do not meet together (they met recently when there where changes). And Jiva sakti d also was as disabled.

Recently I spoke with Jiva sakti d and he will return to perform her (his) duties and then we begin to coordinate face to face meetings with National Council. (very probable it will be mid September when new council take functions).

3. Parampadam p went away (travel), recently come back next week and he coordinate with Jagad guru d for to see the next meeting.

4. With respect to BS guides and Lad, I comment briefly

In May I had a meeting with Chosica Council for talking about educational issues, in this moment Nityakinkari dd (Council treasurer) :

_she made a remark to the BS  guidelines. For she it was no good.

_Lad is not good teacher

_and she compare all with Escuela Vaisnava.

The BS guides are very good level, invite to introspection and analysis but she do not understand it and i explained to her in many times that next year we will have new BS guidelines (with more elements).

Also i explained that Lad uses the method constructivism and only there is 2 students have complained about him and Escuela Vaisnava and NIMSAR are different methods and both are educational options.

Then I suggested she takes BS with Escuela Vaisnava but she ignored (it were 3 times that she complains about the same), too I suggested to Lad do not teach to her BS but he continued.

In July NIMSAR asked permission to Chosica´s Council for to give BV presencial course. They answer (letter send for Nityakinkari dd) that lad and the guides (BS and BV) must be inspected of academic devotees (chosen by them)

We decided do not give presencial BS or BV in Chosica temple for now only online. We had Communication course and 2do Educational meeting there, then it was no time for discussion.

About communication between Lad and SG Jagajivan p we dont know.

5. Our vision is the same like you help and preach in Merconorte.

6. A question, Caitanya Candra d he wants to be president of NIMSAR? or is your proposal?

7. If you let me, I prefer write in English to improve.

Sri Nrsimha protect you

Thank you very much

HpS - ASA -  Thank you so much for your Report. I talked with LAD for 1-1/2 hours this morning. We discussed a lot of things. It was a very good meeting. We are pushing him and Abhirama and others to communicate here in the Blog with you and others.
Point "6." - I feel that we should present this kind of letter to Caitanya Candra Prabhu and the Council. What do you think?:

Esteemed CCD, Peruvian National Council et al,
Congratulations on taking the responsibility again of President of the National Council. We have nice memories of meeting with you in the Office in Chosica with NIMSAR devotees et al.
We only hope to be of service to you. We heard that someone said that we said, that M. Ganga was, that we said ...    Basically, as a Sannyasi anything we actually say about politics we publish right in our Blog, www.hps.monkeywarrior.com, and basically we have very emotional affection for all the devotees in Lima, Mataji, Yamunesvara, Lakmana, Caturatma, Omkara . . . .
We only want to work as friends with everyone.

Within that perspective, with this letter, we are presenting our humble ideas for Sankirtan in Peru, Merco-norte, the world.

1. NIMSAR is a Branch of our Anjana Suta Academy, which is based in Nashville, Tennessee, and Tamohara Das is our GBC-Secretary. We only want to work in Peru if we have friendly relation with the National Council and also also formal letters of agreement describing the institutional aspect.

2. The general idea is that NIMSAR should be like the VIHE in Vrndavana, the Bhaktivedanta College in Radha-desa etc. There are so many institutions like these established by devotees like Bhurijana Das, Saunakya Rsi Das, and even Srila Prabhupada, that are meant to work in full co-operation with the local Temples. NIMSAR would aim to serve Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador with Sastric Education and also Daivi-varna-ashrama-dharma education in the form of Teacher Training, Educational Administrator Training, Pre-school, Primary and Secondary Education, and as well even practical eduction in Motion Picture Production and other fields.
Like the Mayapura Institute, Mayapura Academy, Bhaktivedanta Institute, Bhaktivedanta College, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies, Nimsar is proposed to take care of these multi-national educational necessities. Of course, the Peruvian National Council might want to come up with the same institution, and then personally I have no problem closing our Branch in Peru and working with the National Council's structure.
On the other hand, this administratively independent, harmonious. model is one that is very successful and accepted all over the world. The Temple educational Branch is also working in many place, Russia, India...

What would you like to see personally?

What would the Junta Nacional like to see as an Institution?

Certainly, NIMSAR would be super happy if every member of the National Council was a member of Nimsar and if you wanted to do the work as President of NIMSAR it would certainly be a wonderful possibility as far as I am concerned.

Please contact us about any of these matters. Our real communication is mostly through our Blog, then we get the advantage of being able to work on things as a community, and then (at great personal expense) we can handle "private" details though Yahoo.

Other point is our work with Sattva, Abhirama Thakura Das, and the National Library of Peru, CONCYTEC, San Marcos University etc. This has grown over the years and is just our personal Sankirtan. Again we are always inviting everyone in ISKCON to read about Carl Jung and Srila Prabhupada's dialog etc, and join these efforts.

Please write us about this also.

I think we will be visiting Peru about May, April next year and we hope to be based in Peru from 2019-2022. 2022-2024 in Braja and 2024 leave our body.

urgent Abhinanda

9 years, 2 months ago by abhinanda in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Jai Srila Prabhupada.

Todas las glorias a su entusiata sankirtan.

ASA - XXX (Unas cosas particular)

Ys abhinanda das

ASA - Hare Krsna. Esta Blog es Super. Mucha gente lo lea. Y automaticamente no es muy publico. Es como el circulo de devotos que acercarsen despues de una conferencia para hablar en las detalle. Claro, todo el publico de 120 personas puede acercarse, pero usualmente solo 10-12 acercarsan.

Eso es natural. Tenemos que trabajar con nuestra Institution, de una manera instotucional. Las Gopis son buen ciudadanyos del Pueblo de Nanda Maharaja, pero entro ellos: Yasoda y Rohini, las Gopis, los Gopas, tienen su circulo de amigos. En Buddhismo es la Sangha y la Sanga. Finalmente, cada Gopi tiene su relacion tan intima con Krsna, cuando es pensando en eso, ni tampoco pueden relacionar perfecto con las otras Gopis.

No somos miembros de ISKCON completo si no experiencia directo, pero media transparente, una relaciona personal con nuesta Fundador Acharya.

Entonces, tenemos que entender utilar esta Blog bien, y tambien, si son cartas de chicas no podemos leer solo. Somos todos Brahmacaris aqui en la Oficina y si hay cartas privados por chicas tenemos que compartir con un buen Grhasta et al.

Esperamos estamos adelantando en nuestra comprehension de La Ciencia de Krsna. Entonces muy facilmente podemos ayudar el mondo!  Por favor, todo el mundo, educar nostros tambien!

Arequipa Mandir

Hare Krishna

PAMHO

Jay Srila Prabhupada!

Dear Guru Maharaj, I just read your Vyasa Puja Offering to Srila Prabhupada, and I have no right words, not even one that avoids my clumsiness and lack of tact to speak.

Also, pardon my offenses, you are now the most important person in my life; forgive my audacity, I am not worthy of his causeless mercy upon me. Excuse my arrogant ignorance, I am also very silly and take for me to learn.

My feeling is that many of us feel like castaways who leads the current and soon only see him far, the ships that ply the banks, through waves of fog; the beloved and missed home. Eternal and royal abode. You're like the ship that plows through the banks, throw me a rope and a life please, I'm drowning.

Guru Maharaj, in the answer you telling me in the last letter, he says, I can develop my relationship with Srila Prabhupada through any transparent way ... This means that apart from reading his books and watching his videos, I can get closer to Him? This development can achieve with the help of my spiritual master? The point is that I am almost fanatic Srila Prabhupada and I see fear, in recent years, which has been a proliferation of websites with characters who try to pass disguised as Vaishnava, or that deviate from the true knowledge, many of them Srila Prabhupada disowning or calling themselves His Divine Grace?!, too.

You then tells me that cultivate my circle of friends and sankirtan partners to learn more, and then to work on the development of the ISKCON institution. This I take it as a mission that I gladly accept and am willing to push myself to the fullest.

The following list shows some Devotees and Bhaktas of Arequipa are inviting you, so please visit us in April next year:

P. Mahamantra d, P. Dajanidi d, P. Gaura Nitai d, P. Govinda Caran d, P. Lokanath d, P. Haridas d,  B. Gustavo, B. Joel, B. Nimai, B. Juan, B. Fernando and B. Renato. Also mothers, M. Ramalila dd, M. Krishna Ekadasi dd, M. Manasi Ganga dd, M. Lila Sri dd, M. Jestha dd, B. Rukmuni, B. Hilda, B. Ana, B. Liliana, B. Mari Luz and B. Paola.

There remains the question: I'm ready for my initiation?

My answer: I'm jumping for joy!!! You imagine, how many millions of lives have gone to arrive at this time??? And how many chances I will have missed!!! Guru Maharaj I'm ready, more ready than ever and I am aware that depart many difficulties and trials along the way, but I have faith, enthusiasm and be steadfast in my service.

Thank you so much, with all my heart and affection towards you.

Your fool servant Renato.

P.D. (thanks to Google translate, excuse me any mistake).

HpS - Thank you...   I hope we can visit Arrequipa as number one priority next time we are in Peru.    Do you have letter of Recommendation from your Temple President for Initiation?

Transparent via media can be the Paramatma. Devotees. Books. Deities. Sadhana. Books are the basis. In ISKCON we do not use the title Divine Grace. Srila Prabhupada is clearly who he is through his books, even NOI, and then we can judge every other Guru in terms of his standard!

More news from Arrequipa for September!

Urgente! Respuesta de LAD

Hare Krishna, dear Gurumaharaja. Pamho, AGTSP!

Thanks for your response.

I couldn’t go back to sleep until I could write this letter.

Well, I was expending something else, and I got an institutional answer. But anyway that’s what I deserve, I guess.

Maybe the message is “stop whining before your spiritual master and do your bloody job”

You are not my shrink or my daddy. I was probably expecting an “attaboy” or “well done”, but I got “we probably better shut down the whole damn thing”. So, people, “don’t brag before your spiritual master, just do your job the better you can”

Maybe I was looking for some sympathy. So “don’t play the victim, just do your job.”

Thanks for teach me a lesson. “Just do your job”.

HpS - ASA --- We don't have a lot of communication here so when you send letters it is with a lot of undevleoped perspective. Actually we were very appreciative of the history you gave. Again. Thank you. Like we said you seem to be doing a whole lot to satisfy Srila Prabhupada!

Tom Brown: Atta, Boy, well done!  You have earned your Sargent's Stripes in the Army of the ISKCON Apes!

However, and not to be cruel of judge anyone more harshly than WE judge ourselves, we have to set practical goals and do them. Without these regualr Nimsar reports we can't run "ASA Branches" of which NIMSAR has been in first or second place.

Yes, we (NIMSAR) need a lot of improvement. I guess what are we doing is not good enough. We need to be more professional, etc. I think we need more people working together to do better things. We are on it.

I still want to do some improvement for BVB in Spanish. Actually I have like 8 new students for Pada Padma so that is forcing me to work on the Tpp study guides. I’m translating the entire material again and I’m adding some little things like photos, etc.  So, If you allow me I can carry on with this job. We need to work on the BVB authorization also. Currently we are working as an informal branch of your own program.  

I’m revising the ppt for Bhakti sastri as well and I got 3 more students on-line for that purpose and of course to remember the thing for myself and help others.

I still need  to prepare myself better and do my master degree but maybe I’ll do it in Peru. It’s going to be way too expensive to do it abroad.

M. Isvari already sent you the report last ekadasi.

NIMSAR is reporting everything to the authorities and always asking for permition, but in a kind of an impersonal fashion.  Jiva sakti prabhu said that we need to approach them to have better communication.  It was a brilliant piece of advice.  That’s probably what they are expecting.

Please, we need your constant advice.

I hope we (NIMSAR and I) can have your blessings to carry on and do a better job.

Your servant,
LAD

ASA - Thank you for the quick response!!!  There is nothing in ISKCON more important than this dialog. We got a letter from Isvari Devi Dasi, our Secretary for NIMSAR, so let's see what she has.

About the the TPP stuff for BhV and BhS we need to talk. I would say that there is no loss in the work you are doing, but we can improve it more if we co-ordinate it.
So, the NOI lectures that we did should pass to Ajata-satru Das and Abhirama Das for Editing?  
See, this is what I mean. We have to discuss our priorities here in the Blog. We can communicate here eternally and transcendentally.

Let's look at Isvari Devi Dasi's letter.

LAD service & Suspending (?) NIMSAR in Peru.

Hare Krishna, dear Gurumaharaja, Pamho.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

NIMSAR, I think, is making great contributions to ISKCON through their service in education.

Since 2008, first by organizing and studying ourselves, we have been contributing to the formation of the devotees as an educational option for Peru and the region.

In 2011 we  introduced a formal course of Bhaktas in Peru by the mercy of HH Swami Hanumatpresaka and collaboration of many devotees, especially P. Jiva shakti i

We managed to graduate so far about 70 bhakti sastris, 20 bhaktas  and 50 devotees in the course of disciples, and continue our work.

We have given the course of disciples in Chosica, Arequipa, Cuzco (Peru), Guayaquil (Ecuador) and now we are going to Tarapoto (Peru jungle) in September and possibly Bolivia, if we got authorized.

Also, globally, we have participated in two congresses in Chile and next year will go to Brazil. We are connected to the international network trying to meet the requirements of the ISKCON Ministry of Education.

Currently we are still working hard. We have had two very enriching seminars with P. Baladeva, communications secretary of the Ministry of Education for Latin America. We had the second regional educational meeting with the participation of important leaders such as P. Karuna Krishna, P. Omkara, P. Jiva shakti; influential devotees in the community as P. Anandamaya , P. Gandharva et al; representative of the young devotees as Bhaktin Margi and M. Padmavati. Everything under the guidance of P. Baladeva.

Personally I also worked in Chosica Gurukula the years 2002, 2003 and 2004.

I have done other services, however teaching is what I was trained. I studied in college, I worked in Catholic schools, bilingual schools, etc. In ISKCON, Bhakti sastri, Bhakti Vaibhava, etc.

I know I have to improve a lot in my service, study more, better preparation of my classes, etc. and the authorities made it very clear. I will continue until end of the year with the course of Bhaktas, but I'm not allowed to give Bhakti Sastri or Bhakti Vaibhava in the temple unless I improve my teaching methods and improve educational material, as the study guides of yours ,"Tava Pace Pace". Jagajivana Prabhu, as well, considered the possibility to revoke my license to give disciples course in ISKCON because I don't have sufficient knolewdge of the ISKCON laws, etc.

With that wake-up call I'm trying to improve. And possibly take a year off to study my master. Next year the bhaktas course will be in charge of another person. We’ll  suggest M. Lila sakti, which is a very talented young college student in education being coached by NIMSAR. We hope they accept their service. For now so that devotees are cared for their educational needs I'm giving courses on-line, until the authorities find someone more qualified for this service.

I am considering looking elsewhere to exercise my service, as I prepare myself better. I see the need for change for me and for NIMSAR. This year we will continue to contribute to strengthening NIMSAR and see what happens next year.

When I was almost diying in bed at the hospital, three years ago, my only concern was: What will happen to my students, what will happen to NIMSAR? I think now NIMSAR is in good hands. We need more, many more, but I think I could now retire in peace for a while to improve, study, and perhaps return.

ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada's mission is universal, somewhere they will be somebody merciful enough to accept the mediocre and poor service of this your eternal servant,

Laksmana-agraja das

HpS - ASA -- Jaya!   Very interesting letter. Thank you. We have not talked for a long time and now...   ...  there has not been a fort-nightly Nimsar report for one month.  Ayeeee!!!     What has happened.   It is such a critical time. We should have written a letter to Caitanya-candra Das as new President of the Junta National making very clear and friendly relations with him.
Ooof!   Practically speaking we have to suspend our presence as Anjana Suta Academy, as Nimsar, in Peru unless we can adjust this situation immediately, no?

No longer accepting students or donations in the name of the Academy.

This lack of communication, of which we are a definite part, shows us that we do not have proper relations with the Temple and GBC authority, Jaga-jivana Das. Everybody has to improve. If anyone thinks that their function in these relations is perfect then they are living in illusion. This is material world, there are problems everywhere, but...  we are asociation of devotees. We always want everyone to improve. We don't want anyone to fall aside.

I remember one letter that I passed on to Jayatirtha Das from Srila Prabhupada where he finished saying, "You cannot live without my mercy, and I cannot live without your mercy, this mutual respect, this mutual love, is Krsna consciousness".

About editing the Tava Pache Pache lectures, you said that you wanted to do it but it has also been over a month since you mentioned that and we have heard no more?  Now Ajata-satru Das wants to do the work. So what should we do?

Of course, we can just chant and dance and accept whatever little Prasadam Krsna offers, and if he wants, like He did for the Pandavas, then we can leave these bodies. It seems that Srila Prabhupada took Tamal Krsna Goswami and others.

What is the situation with our meetings with Param padam?

I think that you are doing quite well, really advancing, but like us you have to improve your self and then politely impulse others to change also.

Waiting for your news.   Don't hesitate to put, "Urgent", in the subject field if you need faster response than we are giving.

Madhava tur 2016 cusco-peru

Hare krsna Gurudev acepte mis reverencias por favor..

Seguimos en Cusco, tuvimos un hermoso festival de Balaram Purnima mas de 50 personas.

ASA - Colosal! Y va a incrementar mas!

Actualmente estoy ayudando en la organizacion del festival que tendremos en Septiembre del 21 al 24, tendremos 6 horas kirtan, Ratha Yatra en honor a los 50-años de ISKCON .

Tambien estoy viajando el 6 setiembre con un grupo de devotos acompañand al Tour que realizara Madhava Prabhu en colombia y Ecuador .

Sus vendiciones Gurudev para nunca dejar de cantar el Sant Nombre .

Su eterno sirviente Rohini Kumar  Das

HpS - ASA -- Hare Krsna!   TlgaSP... !   .  Pidiendo un bendicion de esta tipo, es casi cierto que Vd. era un monje en su vida previo, no?    Muchas gracias noticias del ISKCON Cusco el Gran, pero.... unos fotos suPer arTistko del festival!!!!
Nitai-gaurasundar Das recordando mucho sus esfuerzas como cocinero en Peru. Pensando en como robar Vd. para cocinar aqui.   _-[;o)/\___