Letters to the editor

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, please accept my humble obeisances.

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada !!

All Glories to Hanumatpresaka Swami !!

After our second report we have formalized a meeting with Dr. Alejandro Neyra, current director of the National Library of Peru-BNP, for Tuesday, October 17 at 9.30 a.m. He has shown his willingness to support us in our activities. Ramón suggests that we try to get BNP sponsorship for ART AND THE SACRED (October 2018). He knows those environments well well believes that the Symposium and the art exhibition can be well integrated there. We are in contact with the embassies of India, China, Japan and Egypt, they have shown interest in supporting the event. Ramón also suggests the embassies of Spain and USA so we will get in touch with them.

Walter asks me to inform him that he was in the airport of Mexico, arriving from Peru, when this earthquake occurred, from then on everything was chaos. After half an hour, he could only leave by the exit of the suitcases, was three hours next to the airplanes and three more in the green areas. Finally as no one gave him a way out, he had to walk a long way to get a taxi to Guanajuato and arrive at dawn. Walter is now in Buenos Aires, participating in the BA17 Biennial, the most important meeting of architecture and urbanism in Argentina and Latin America. He returns on October 17th. If the BNP does not accept the sponsorship immediately we will make the management to make THE ART AND THE SACRED in the Auditorium Ricardo Palma and the Gallery Miroquezada in the Municipality of Miraflores. We have also created a Whatsapp group with you, Ramón and Héctor to improve communication

As for the film, Oscar is back in Lima and moving forward in the locations and personalities that could be interviewed here in Peru.

With Miguel Polo we are tuning the Solaris 3 call for the end of October We hope to count for this number with the participation of renowned academics from Peru, India, USA, Spain, Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Australia and others, so we ask devotees If you have any specific contact write to solaris108yahoo.com to contact you.

Gurudeva, please excuse me for the two days late of this report, management is a task that requires patience and determination and by the mercy of Saday Nimay-Nitay and Saday Nimay-Nitay I am sure that for the next report will already be fixed the venue of the event and that many things favorable to this Sankirtan are going to manifest.

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, his insignificant servant, Abhiram Thakur das.

El Arte y lo Sagrado, 3er. Informe

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, por favor acepte mis humildes reverencias.

¡Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!

¡Todas las Glorias a Hanumatpresaka Swami!!

Luego de nuestro segundo informe hemos formalizado una reunión con el Dr. Alejandro Neyra, actual director de la Biblioteca Nacional del Perú-BNP, para el martes 17 de octubre a las 9.30 a.m. él ha mostrado su disposición a apoyarnos en nuestras actividades. Ramón sugiere que intentemos lograr el auspicio de la BNP con los locales para EL ARTE Y LO SAGRADO (octubre de 2018), como él conoce bien esos ambientes cree que se puede integrar bien el Simposio y la exhibición de arte ahí. Estamos en contacto con las embajadas de India, China, Japón y Egipto, ellos han mostrado interés en apoyar el evento, Ramón sugiere también España y USA así que vamos a entrar en contacto con estas embajadas.  

Walter me pide que le informe que él se encontraba en el aeropuerto de México, llegando de Perú, cuando se produjo el terremoto, de ahí en adelante todo fue caos. Luego de media hora tuvo que salir por donde salen las maletas, estuvo tres horas junto a los aviones y otras tres más en las áreas verdes, Finalmente como nadie le daba una salida, tuvo que caminar mucho hasta obtener un taxi hacia Guanajuato y llegar en la madrugada. Walter está ahora en Buenos Aires, participando en La Bienal BA17, el más importante encuentro de arquitectura y urbanismo de Argentina y Latinoamérica. Cuando el vuelva (17 de octubre) sino queda fijada la BNP como sede del evento 2018 inmediatamente vamos a hacer la gestión para hacer EL ARTE Y LO SAGRADO en el Auditorio Ricardo Palma y la Galería Miroquezada en la Municipalidad de Miraflores. También hemos creado un grupo de Whatsapp con usted, Ramón y Héctor para mejorar la comunicación

En cuanto a la película, Oscar ya regreso a Lima y está avanzando en las locaciones y las personalidades a las que se les podría entrevistar aquí en Perú.

Con Miguel Polo estamos afinando la convocatoria de Solaris 3 para finales de octubre Esperamos contar para este número con la participación de reconocidos académicos de Perú, India, USA, España, Argentina, Chile, México, Australia y otros así que le pedimos a los devotos que si tienen algún contacto especifico escriban a solaris108yahoo.com para contactarlo.

Gurudeva disculpe por los dos días de atraso de este informe, la gestión es una labor que requiere de paciencia y determinación, pero, por la misericordia de Saday Nimay-Nitay y Srila Prabhupada estoy seguro que para el próximo informe ya estará fijada la sede del evento y que muchas cosas favorables a este Sankirtan se van a manifestar.

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, su insignificante sirviente, Abhiram Thakur das.

HpS- Hare Krsna. We are late for some of our work also. Planning our time in Krsna Consciousness is a very, very precise task!  Thank you for the news. We will write to the Whatapp group. You may have seen that we are already meeting with good scholars here in India.

We will show Solaris 2 to Dr. Samaresh at the end of this month and get his ideas for #3.

Get up early and get your rounds done, just like a marching soldier.

Thank you so much.

Nitay Goura Premanande!!!
querido y siempre recordado Gurudev,
todas las glorias sean al redentor del mundo Srila Prabhupada!!!
despues de algunos meses de cuidados y tratamientos, la salud de los bronquios y pulmones va mejorando en un 80%,  estuve en las ciudades de Veracruz , Oaxaca , y Uruapan  con los climas mas cálidos y en asociación de Devotos , por su  infinita misericordia me he mantenido cantando los Santos Nombres y ofrendando la distribución de libros a los sagrados pies de Loto de Srila Prabhupada, estoy muy agradecida a Krishna que me cuida a travez de sus devotos quienes siempre me brindan su compañia y apoyo : P. Budhi Manta (es como un Papá pendiente de ver que este bien y no me falte nada)  m. Kalavati, m. Sudevi, m. Fabiola, m. Karen, me brindan las facillidades para hacer el Sankirtan , .... m. Mukti Hektu (al igual que p. Budhi Manta es como una Mamá  pendiente de ver que esté bien y no me falte nada) ...  el trabajo que realizo a travez de la venta de inciensos solo me ayuda a cubrir los gastos de mi padre y mios, por lo que el viaje a Perú todavia está pendiente, ....  pero, estoy en paz,  estoy aprendiendo a someterme a la dulce voluntad de Krishna, él sabe cuanto necesito estar con mi padre  seguramente que todavia no es el momento adecuado .....  me quedé sin libros y las devotas de Uruapan me donaron un poco de Revistas  "de Vuelta al Supremo"  editadas y traducidas al español  por Nandananda dasa ( ACBSP)  en sus numeros 1 y 2  ... están hermosas!!   y, al parecer van a estar para la Marathón  de Prabhupada aunque todavia no está confirmado, ......  leyendo una de ellas,  Prabhupada enfatiza la formula de Conciencia de Krishna :" Bailar, Cantar, comer Krishna Prasadam y oir temas trascendentales"  son actividades espirituales que nos acompañarán en la eternidad y si uno tiene la gran fortuna de realizarlo perfectamente en esta misma vida puede obtener la admisión al reino de Dios, ...   Su- Sukham Kartum Avyayam  "el servicio devocional se efectua gozosamente "  ..por su infinita misericordia querido Gurudev, estoy distribuyendo estas revista no son muchas pero, cada dia tengo la oportunidad de tener la dicha de saborear el Nectar del Sankirtan, eternamente agradecida por su infinita compasión, querido GuruMaharaja!!!
                                                                                    Radhe, Radhe, Radhe.....
su inútil y torpe  sirvienta
m. Jambavati d.d.  NitayGouraPremanande!!!

HpS – ASA – Hare Krsna!!  Mil gracias su carta. Desculpa la demurra responder. Estamos siempre en transit. Pienso puede leer in poco de nuestra humilde Sankirtan aqui. Krsna y los devotos nos protejan como ninos.
Su Sankirtan es super. Continua como la hace.. y expandalo.
Aqui somos en viaje hasta 8 Noviembre. En cualquiere momento hay oportunidad predicar y cants Hare Krsna.

Respected Guru Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I am very sorry I did not attend Saturday's SB class by phone. Actually, at that time Gopal's wife was delivering her baby in the Logan hospital, with my wife at her side.

HpS - Well, O.K.      I guess we can excuse her and you all, but if they are recorded then we can all listen later. Our respects to the Mother and family.

Gopal was frantically driving from Boise to Logan, rushing to make it in time for the 9:30am C-section operation. I was coordinating between Gopal, his wife, and my wife---trying to keep everyone calm---while also looking after the kids at home. The baby was finally born around 9:30am. In the pandemonium, I totally forgot about class.

I am so sorry you have had to go through so much pain just to have a weekly Bhagavatam class in Boise. This is actually for our benefit, and yet you are taking all the trouble. Please, Gurudeva, I really want to make this my last life in the cycle of birth and death.

HpS - Come on!   What could be more ecstatic than coming on the scene being pulled screaming and crying form the belly of your poor mother cut open with a sharp instrument?

Help!!     I need these classes as much as our while ISKCON.

I promise that in the future I will call on Saturday mornings if it is in any way possible and attend Bhagavatam class. Please forgive me.

your unworthy servant,

Radhika Ramana dasa

HpS - Thank you so much. We are unworthy to be anyone's servant in New Bihar van.

We also noticed a Yahoo letter from your esteemed father ARD. We will look at it with Rama-giridhari Das and post it here also!

Tato jayam uddhirayet.

Respected Maharaja

Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

ASA - HpS - Paoho at your feet and all the assembled Vaisnavas. AGTSP!!

I am responding to your letter at http://hps-d6.monkeywarrior.com/node/8474 Thank you for your efforts, patience, and perseverance to start a weekly Bhagavatam study of Boise ISKCON devotees inside the temple. This is the third attempt you made in the recent past. Initially, almost all the time, I was the only one sitting in the temple on feeble phone connection from my home, broadcasting our online session. After many many weeks, I found it discouraging and eventually discontinued it when there was audio being played on the altar at the time of the class!

HpS - Yes, I think Ananta-rupa Das told me that they could not listen to the class so they were playing Bhajans while they dressed Sri Sri Banki bihari.

Then again by your efforts, we started a session just for local devotees and we were gathering before Sunday feast program to discuss weekly content. I was helping as much as possible with scheduling and other things. There was very good turnout and the response was positive and encouraging. Then all of a sudden the Temple President canceled it without soliciting any feedback from participants or a progression plan in place.

HpS - Could he have consulted but your good self just didn't know about it?

Now for the third time, you started it again. . .

HpS - Actually we had been doing a lot of discussion about the situation with ARD and Prof. Radhika ramana Das and that is how it got started to my knowledge.

. . .and this time, in my mind, I had no active role other than a participant in a program that the Temple President is promoting in accordance with the instructions from ISKCON Ministry of Education.  . .

HpS - Actually, we are right in the middle of the MOE meetings here in Ujjjain. It is INTENSE works and we are discussing all these things and of course remembering that administration is very dangerous because one can commit Hati-mata, offenses amongst the Vaisnavas, so easily. The MOE is just trying to apply Srila Prabhupada's instruction, even GBC instructions, always have a class in every morning in every ISKCON Temple. 

I was excited to participate but things didn't go well and as you summarized the class was canceled again.

HpS - Has it been canceled??   I just thought a couple of participants walked out of that one. They could apologize exchange gifts of money and non-alcoholic beer and try again next week.

Of course, the above three instances were most recent ones but you have been trying this for more than a decade and several ISKCON devotees from Boise and other places have been attending online and taking advantage of the scripture and your association.

HpS - All others.

At least, I would have been in a pretty bad situation, if it were not to the teachings you have been imparting in these weekly gatherings! Over the last decade, you made countless requests to Boise temple administration to get involved but it didn't work out.

HpS - Not countless. Just several and they may have their difficulties.

I agree with what you said: "No one in Boise, or even in the material world, has much claim to be perfect and not admit mistakes and offer obeisances to initiated ISKCON devotees and work out practical management problems in organizing Daily SB class." Please forgive me for losing my patience due to historical reasons, maybe I could have responded better! I am willing to attend, as a participant at the same time that you decided (6:30 am Saturday) so as to make it suitable for Anantarupa Prabhu to attend. I cannot promise to be the first person coming in advance and setting things up. If needed I can do it for a couple of weeks till devotees learn how to get online themselves. In fact, almost everyone knows and have logged into start meeting many times before. The presenters need to get their own laptops or the temple should provide one since some carry business laptops and cannot use it for public purposes other than in rare scenarios. I also feel the temple administration should give the projector so devotees can see the presentations instead of peeking into the tiny laptop.

Your insignificant servant

Srinivasacarya dasa

HpS - Thank you so much for communicating your perspective on the elephant. Let us see what others have to say.

So far the discussion is 0.K. (Zero Kill. Nobody dead).

Your suggestion about getting the Boise classes out to the community through tele-conferencing seem practical to me, but other may have more information to present. If nothing else someone could call in on a telephone and then broadcast and record through their phone. Of course, the visual is very nice!

Hare Krsna.

AGTSP Paoho

Here we are in Room 105 in the Guest House, ISKCON Ujjain.

It is 2.30AM and we have seven rounds done.

Our focus is the Daily Srimad Bhagavatam Class in our ISKCON Boise temple.

After bleeding through our stomach to help to get the Saturday morning class, weekly review class, going, we had the experience that it was one of the most delightful times in our life.

Then, by Krsna's, arrangement we took off for six weeks of travel with very difficult contact with ISKCON Boise.  We were amused to see what was going to happen.

Personally we had been in airplane, auto, airport from 5.30AM Tuesday until the present, and we were not maintaining our Morning Srimad Bhagavatam class perfectly, because "morning" kept changing hour to hour, but we did do daily reading first. With our feet halfway on the ground we were strong in going to the local class.

Thus we heard Vaisesika Das' class. Bhadri-narayana Swami's class and today we give the morning class with Badri and Bhakti-caru Swami et al present.

Srinivasa Das took advantage of our efforts to communicate and made his own struggle and got our India phone number and then we had a conversation. In 99% good humor he gave his impression of the class last Saturday.

We tried to text, but it failed, and then sent by Skype greetings to Ananta-rupa, Radhika-Raman and Balabhadra Das', asking for their impressions about the class.

We discussed the situation in our Temple in Boise with Vaisesika Das, Badri-Narayana Swami and taking those discussions into mind here is our perspective now. Please respond.

No one in Boise, or even in the material world, has much claim to be perfect and not admit mistakes and offer obeisances to intiated ISKCON devotees and work out practical management problems in organizing Daily SB class.

Big issue was that Srinivasa Das had not "set up" tele-conferencing facility even though Ananta-rupa Das told HpS that Srinivasa should take full charge of organizing the class.

ARD did tell us that in the course of our discussions, once in passing, but we failed to work it out with SND in the rush of leaving for travel. Please forgive our mistake.

ARD got angry and walked out of the class. SND got angry and walked out of the class. Murari Das just watched them get angry and then went home.

Upendra Das wasn't there because he had gone to India. He should have let the Temple President know that and the Temple President could have told SND, organizer, and everyone.

Gopal wasn't there because he went with his new baby to Logan to see Radhika, but they both could have come online to attend their Temple class and when the class didn't come on line they could have phoned the Temple President and he could have referred them to the Weekly Review Class Organizer, SND etc.

Ha! Ha! Ha!     Get's complicated when you go to administrative level.

Did Balabhadra Das and Kama-gayatri Devi Dasi try to log on? Has the Weekly Daily Srimad Bhagavatam Review Class been announced to the congregation and have they been encouraged to join the program?

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ho. Ho. He. He.

Our general impression is that unless we get this WDSBRC going we are all going to birth in ISKCON life after life until we solve this problem.

Make it work!

Get it recorded on Startmeeting. com and we will listen to the classes and send our comments.

[Whine!  Growl! Complaint!]

Puff and nonsense!

We are all PhDs, CEOs, Earthly Gods. If anyone of us can't get us (HpS, Monkey, Piggy et al) a recording of a WDSBRC then we curse you to have more more opulence than Indra, to be more beautiful the Miss America, and take birth again in ISKCON life after life. 

Of course, our curses are probably useless, but we really have no other aspiration than to hear recordings of the WDSBRCs.

Thank you all for your kind attention.

We wait to hear the opinions of others and will post them here.

Jaya!   Srila Prabhupada!

Agtt Assembled Devotees!

Hare Krsna Maharaj, 

Please accept my humble obeisances, All glories to Srila Prabhupada! All glories to your preaching efforts and wisdom!

Maharaj, this is Anadi Radha dasi from Boise, Idaho. I was hoping to ask you a question regarding an experience I had recently.

HpS - ASA -- Our honor!

Around the beginning of August 2017, one of my teacher mentors from my high school who is now more of a friend (HS was almost 10 years ago) came to visit me at my apartment (I currently live on the temple grounds right next to Tulsi Kunja at New Biharvan). She knows devotees in Peru (she's a spanish teacher) and was telling me one devotee she knows there just recently got engaged to a girl named Tulsi. She also shared with me how she loved chanting with this group she's associated with and she just got a meditation pillow. In the spirit of such a conversation I asked if she would be interested in chanting Hare Krsna on japa beads and that I would be more than happy to give her some. So I brought out a bag with two japa malas, one neem and one tulsi, planning to give her the neem, as she still eats meat. She asked me she liked the other, darker beads, the tulsi beads. I kindly told her that Tulsi is one of those plants very sacred to Krsna and devotees, that she is given very special care and devotion. Because of these factors, its better to start out with the neem beads, and get tulsi beads later after you really get to chanting. So I gave her the neem beads. I felt I was kind, however, I also felt I conveyed a little separatist mentality. I also thought maybe her draw to Tulsidevi and the fact she was talking about this Tulsi girl was an indicator that.. she could have been okay to take the beads. Maybe Tulsidevi would be her inspiration in Krsna Consciousness. Because afterall, the first devotee I met gave me tulsi neckbeads... 

After thinking a bit about it and feeling a bit uncomfortable with my choice, I asked Anantarupa Prabhu about the incident and his thoughts. He told me I did the right thing, but maybe for a little more information and input, I could ask you for some instruction on your blog. 

I always thought giving Tulsi to nondevotees was sort of wrong, and I still feel that way, but I'm also open to Krsna's will...

Maharaj, could you share what you think about this subject matter? 

Thank you so much.

Yhs, Anadi Radha dasi

HpS - Wow. Great question. We would feel hesitant to give Tulasi unless the person was Sattvic, vegetarian, etc. We give little 18-bead Malas that we import by the bag full from Mexico, pine. Look nice, not too many beads, fit in you bag.

But Vijitatma Das, our B'cari partner, and great Sankirtan man since 1974 or more distributes Tulasi beads to attract people to buy books. He is still distributing books. Maybe it works for book distributors but us folk have to be more careful until we some to their level.

That's all I could say. Thank you. Hope to see you soon.