Raganuga Bhakti and Manipuri Vaisnavism

All glories to Srila A.C. Prabhupada, Bhakti Svarupa Sripad Maharaja and Goura Bhakta Vrinda.

 

Hare Krsna,

HpS Guru Maharaja! Dandavat Pranam.

 

Please accept my humble obeisanses unto the Padmacharan of Guruji Maharja that the following is the comments of Prabhu Partha Sarathi Das on Manipuri Goudiya system of Shakhi-Manijari forwarded today.

 

 

“All Glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gouranga,

 

H. H. Respected Swamijee,

        Please accept my humble pranam, Sriman Yamunesvara Prabhu has shown to me the comment of Sriman Haridas Gosvami on the Guru-Param-Para of the Manipuri Vaisnavism, which seems to be quite remote from the subject under discussion. I have nothing to comment on the remarks given by a sannyasi on his own accord. However, as I belong to the old traditional devout Manipuri Vaisnava family, I feel it obliged to say a few words he has not mentioned at all in his remarks, for the pleasure of my Spiritual Master and other vaisnavas.   

 

        To my mind, instead of giving his personal observation on the Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism, it would have been more appropriate for him to have focused on the principles of Manipuri Vaisnavism as enunciated in the scriptures, which have been followed by each and every vaisnava under the strict supervision of their respective Spiritual Masters coming down through disciplic succession right from the days of Rajarsi Bhagyachandra (1776) till this day. Their presiding deity is Lord Sri Govinda currently being enshrined (worshiped) in the Mani Mandir of the palace of Manipur, Imphal.

 

        Though I have very little knowledge about his background of Manipur Vaisnavism, I regard Sriman Haaridas Goswami as a simple and humble sannyasi. So far as I know, he is a Manipuri devotee born in Assam and brought up there. I never expect such a remark on Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism, which may hurt the sentiment of Srila Prabhupada and Sri B.S. Damodara Swami, who were the great exponents of Manipuri Vaisnavism. Srila Prabhupada spoke highly of the Manipuri Vaisnavism and commented that Manipur was a great Vaisnava Kingdom and its vaisnava culture needs to be revived for the welfare of the humanity, as revealed in the purport of the Bhgagavatam (9.22.32). In view of this, the remarks on the Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism is quite irrelevant and uncalled for, from a sannyasi like him who belongs in the ISKCON family, which is to be treated as a great aparadha (sin) to his Spiritual Master, B.S. Damodara Swami as well as Srila Prabhupada. However, may all the merciful Lord Sri Govinda always protect him for his innocence and ignorance.

 

        

As desired, for information of Swamijee, I am sending details of the Spiritual Masters coming down through disciplic succession, they are - Lord Sri Krishna - Sri Krishna Caitanya – Sri Gadhadhara Pandit – Sri Loka Natha Swami – Sri Narottama Das Thakur – Sri Ganganarayan Chakravarti – Sri Nidhirama Chakravarti – Sri Kunjabihari Das – Sri Ram Gopal Vairagi – Sri Rupa Pramananda Goswami – Sri Rajarsi Bhagyachandara – and his successive disciple so on and so forth, which are in the records of the history of Manipuri Vaisnavism and its Guruparampara, compiled by great Manipuri writer Late Sri Koijam Brajabihari Singh of Thangmeiband.

 

        One special and unique feature of the Manipuri Vaisnavism, as distinct from others, is that, our approach is indirectly direct, that is, no vaisnava devotee of Manipur is allowed to approach Lord Sri Krishna, direct but through His consort, all merciful Radharani. Radharani is non-different from Krishna. Krishna is the origin of Radharani. Because of this, another name of Radharani is known as Krishna Swarupini. Radharani is the origin of all the Lakshmis including 16,108 Maharanis of Dwarika and Gopis of Vrindavana. So Radharani is known as the Swarva Laksmi Mayi Angsini. As such Gopies are non different from Radharani. Therefore, under the Manipuri Vaisnavism, vaisnaava devotees are allowed to approach Krishna through Radharani, Radharani through Sakhis, Sakhis through Manjari. Shakhis and Manjaris are all Gopis. Under the Manipuri Vaisnavism, at the time of initiation of one devotee, the Spiritual Master should explain the significant of the Spiritual Master and necessity for approaching Krishna through one of the Shakhi or Manjari. And accordingly, the Spiritual Master, on the day of the initiation of a devotee, he should give the name of the Sakhi or Manjari along with his initiated name, through whom he should chant Hare Krishna Mahamantra on the japas at least 5 rounds of chanting, three times a day (tri-sandhya) in the morning, in the noon, and in the evening, without fail. Under this strict system of Manipuri Vaisnavism, I was given initiation by my Spiritual Master (Purohit) of my clan in the late forties when I was thirteen years old. I was also made known the name of the Sakhi through whom I pray to and worship Lord Sri Krishna, along with my initiated name. All these should be kept strictly confidential.


        One more important thing to be noted about Rajarsi Bhagyachandra is that he is illiterate; he can neither read nor write. But with the blessings of Lord Sri Govinda, he is endowed with the gifted in-born talent of intelligence and memory, like Maharisi Veda Vyas, son of Parasara Muni. Vyasdeva could learn all the Vedas from his father Parasara only by hearing once for all. Once he hears, it never goes out of his memory. Likewise, though illiterate, Rajarsi Bhagyachandra, whatever he hears from his Spiritual Master Rupa Paramanand Goswami, it never goes out of his memory. Rupa Paramand Goswami narrated all the contents of all the 90 chapters of the 10th Canto, with special emphasis on the Rasa Panchadhaya. King Bhagyachandra was fully motivated and specially attracted to the transcendental beauty of the Rasa Lila of the Gopis with Sri Krishna and could relish the nectarean divine rasa (taste) to his heart’s content. As a result of it, he could produce the world famous Maharas which was staged on the full moon night of the month of Kartika (Nov-Dec) 1779 and Nata-Sankirtana describing the nectarean pastimes of Sri Krishna in the Vraja-Vrindavan.

 

        King Bhagyachandra choreographed the Maharasa, the great circular Rasadance (Raslila) of Lord Sri Krishna along with Gopies, based on the Rasa Panchadhyayas of Srimad Bhagavatam 10th Canto (from 29th to the 33rd Chapters) showing highest devotional touch ever shown by the Gopies to the lotus feet of Lord Sri Krishna. He further designed the newest form of classical Sankirtana (congregational chanting of the Harinama Mahamantra depicting the Vraja Kahani, the nectarean pastimes of Lord Krishna in Vrindavan, performed by a group of singers through their graceful body movement. This type of congregational chanting is known as Nata-Sankirtan. Nata means actors who depicts Vraja Kahani (pastimes of Lord Krishna in Vrindavana through their melodious voice and acting with gradual and graceful body movement.

This is the world famous devotional classical Sankirtana form available till this day in the world. Maharasa and the Nata Sankirtana are the two greatest contributions of Rajarsi Bhagyachandra in the Vaisnava Culture of Manipur.

 

        I have made this letter a bit long unnecessarily which may give Swamiji a little trouble to read.

 

        Hare Krishna,

To                                                               In the service of Lord Sri Krishna

Srila Hanumat Presaka Swami Maharaja             Your fallen servant,

 

Partha Sarathi Das  


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Hanumatpresaka Swami,

Please accept my humble respects. You know that I love Manipur and Manipuri Vaisnava culture. You presentation was very concise and very nice. I have read some other books on the history of Manipuri culture, one was by a former Member of Parliament whom was a little famous. Maybe you know of whom I am talking.

I would have to know a lot more detail about the Parampara of Manipur to make any comments about the detailed practices. I did not see Haridas Swami's letter, so I do not know what his comments were.

Since ISKCON and Manipuri Vaisnavas, as you have so nicely described, are both in Parampara from Narottama Das Thakura then there should be points of agreement on his teachings in both of our traditions.

Specifically we are coming Param para from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaura kishora Das Babaji and Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta tradition.

Of course, we also approach Krsna though Radha but also through Balarama in some cases. Then we also approach Radha through the Sakhis, specifically though Lalita whom we understand has incarnated in Gaura lila as Srila Svarupa Damodara, the personal secretary of Lord Caitanya. Lalita we approach though Rupa and Rati Manjaris et al, whom we understand to have incarnated in Gaura-lila as Rupa, Sanatana, Raghunatha Das Goswami et al.

So, in general Rupa Manjari can be accepted by someone such as Yamunesvara as their Manjari leader.

As established by Srila Bhakti siddhanta Sarasvati and then Srila Prabhupada, this internal connection and cultivation in Manjari Raga anuga is only something that is practically comprehensible when one on a liberated platform.


Adau sraddha, sadhu sanga, bhajana kriya, anartha nivritt, ruci... (BG As It Is 40.10 purport).


Of course, with second initiation in ISKCON we can consider that one is liberate to the level of Brahman realization ie. There IS a spiritual, eternal, all pervasive reality. Then with Sannyasa or Goswami initiation we expect that the devotee is realizing the deity in His paramatma feature, the Lord of the heart, present in everyone giving specific instruction.


So, in our Parampara we do not give Raganuga initiation until the student has come to this platform of Sannyasa. In the Nectar of Devotion Srila Prabhuapada specifically deprecates, following Srila Bhakti siddhanta Saravati the Siddha pranali initiation which makes this Manjari Raganuga Bhakti initiation while the student is in a very neophyte stage which can cause severe damage to their spiritual progress.


It is as you mention something confidential and Srila Prabhupada can give it being physically present or not. One has to be on the platform above bodily consideration, in complete accord with his Diksa guru and the Parampara.


Is this O.K.?


One does not have to take Sannyasa to be a Goswami. It is a meaningful formality but ladies, Grhasthas all can and eventually must come to the level of Goswamis informally before considering Raganuga Bhakti.


Rupa Goswami gives great details of all these things in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu and Srila Prabhupada gives us perfect access through Nectar of Devotion, and in turn all of the teachings of Narottama Das Thakura come through the BRS.


Nectar of Instruction, Upadesamrta, give an expert summary, and in turn some esteemed devotee such as ourselves of Yamunesvara Das can read even the first text and evaluate his level of development toward Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan, Krsna and Manjaris.


Is O.K? We can make practical progress! ? Hope to get to Manipur for Kartika next year.

Thank you so much. Is very, very satisfy to communicate with you. Hope we can do it eternally with the guidance of H. H. B. S. Damodara Swami.


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3 years, 4 months ago by miguel valenzuela in Personal Sadhana Reports

Beloved gurudeva, please take my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.


HpS/ASA - Locust feet.


All glories to Srila Prabhupada


HpS/ASA - ! ! !


We keep chanting 16 rounds and the 4 principles, FMP program, and performing my temple service.


HpS - Superman! Excellent servant of Srila Prabhupada, Narottama Das Thakura, Six Goswamis, Lord Caitanya.


Excuse me for not sending my letter earlier, in the heat of the service and the preparations for the balarama purnima festivals, Krishna janmastami, and Srila Prabhupada's appearance the festivals were great, Krishna gave us the opportunity to serve him at all times, great association with his devotees, and above all learning how to serve.


HpS - You are in Guada Lajara?? 


I contacted Mother Asta Sakhi Devi Dasi about my process of taking second initiation as you suggested to me in the previous letter https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/12536/.


For what she tells me the following, "taking into account that I belong to the Yatra of Guadalajara, Mexico and I perform my services in the temple of Nueva Nilacala Mandir, she considers that I should adjust the pertinent details with the authorities of the temple so she recommended talking to them to coordinate with you the theme of the initiation ".


Therefore I spoke with the president of the temple who has been in the position for 8 years, he is Govinda Caran Das, he tells me that he is fully willing to recommend and send the letter as soon as possible according to the laws of the GBC, his intention it is to continue taking care of our spiritual advancement, having a direct approach to the service of the Deity.


In previous years I have given my letter personally during your stay and on the last visit of 2019 we had a meeting with you the disciples who wanted to take second initiation, there I gave you my letter, but there were no initiation ceremonies, it is an arrangement of Krishna, we are under the will of Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga


Guru Maharaja if you agree, the temple president can send the letter and coordinate us to perform the Yajña and you deliver the Gayatri mantra. What do you think?


Your humble insignificant apprentice to serve you Mandali Bhadra das


HpS - I think it is fine. You have passed the Disciple Course, no? We have to apologize to you that we are not able to handle the bureaucratic details of these situations better, and you are showing by your gentle determination that you are a Brahmana.

Can you close this Blog account and open a new one with your initiated name. Seeing your civil name makes some confusion for our secretarial officer: Tom Brown.

Nice fotos.

Respects to Govinda caran Das!!

Hare Krishna

3 years, 4 months ago by devendra in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Maharaj,


Please accept our humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada, All glories to Guru parampara.


Many congratulations on this very auspicious day , when lord Ram, with the help of Hanuman,

And associates got victory over Ravan.


And also today sri Madhavacharya appearance day



Thank you very much Maharaj for giving your association during last Houston visit.


We hope that you have settled in Peru nicely, and hope weather is cooperating with your health.


Maharaj me and Sumitra is doing well, by mercy of vaishnav and Radha Rani, we are engaged in service in temple.


Maharaj have a small question if you get a time :

Nector of Instruction Text 2: It is said that one should not do over-endeavoring to get material things, so question is where should we keep line, is there any criteria how much endeavor one should do?


HpS - Thank you for your excellent letter. We are sorry that we did not answer it sooner. We try to get to all the mail, but it is really impossible:

  1. We are lazy.
  2. Our body is getting old and our eyes cannot handle the computer as much as before. Need a secretary?
  3. The travel Sankirtan etc. takes a LOT of energy.

Please, please read our Kapi Dhvaja. It is published every two weeks. Go to our web page, JayaRama.US and read the "Hello" link. That will explain the next link, "News".

That is were you will find the Kapi Dhvaja.

In the Letters to the Editor section there is a Priority Code. Put that in the Title field of you letters so that we can get to them quickly!!!!


Your question is very nice. I would answer as we understand Bhisma answered Yuddhisthira from the bed of arrows. Yuddhisthira was thinking that by causing the death of so many people to become the King he had been over endeavoring.

However he was guided by three things: God, the Brahmanas, Vedic scriptures.

So, read Prabhupada's books. That will give all the basic principles about how many nice shirts are too many shirts. How expensive a house or car is too expensive. Then chant Hare Krsna and you will get inspiration, good intelligence, from God, Krsna. Finally, keep association with devotees. They can give you good, practical advice of what is over endeavor.

For example, does your family need to go to the beach for a few days to get refreshment?

The above three elements will give you good peace of heart.


In the Kapi Dhvaja we give news about our health etc. You can see there that things are going very well. We have hopes of returning to Houston with good results, 7th March, and then doing a lot of filming in Houston.



Thanks Maharaj.

YAS

Devendra and Sumitra

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3 years, 4 months ago by btna andrea in Personal Sadhana Reports

Todas las Glorias a Sri Sri Gaura Nitay!!!

Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!

Todas las Glorias y mis más humildes y respetuosas reverencias a Usted querido Guru Maharaja!!!

Feliz mes de Kartik!!!!🌷

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HpS - ASA --- ! ! ! 👍 👍 👍 🙂



Espero se encuentre muy bien de salud en la agradable compañía de los devotos en Nueva Ashoka Van, me alegra tanto poder escucharlo por las mañanas y en las lecturas de la tarde es muy inspirador, usted siempre encuentra la forma de llegar a nuestros corazones y compartir la Conciencia de Krishna con todos nosotros.


ASA - TlgaSP!!... 🙄


Han pasado muchas cosas desde mi última carta, haré un breve resumen:


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Primero y lo más importante hace un tiempo volvimos con el padre de mis hijos ( Manjari y Giridhari) y este año nos casamos legalmente, antes no habíamos podido pero ahora por misericordia de Krishna todo salio muy bien,


ASA --- 🙀

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...fue algo muy sencillo y muy lindo para nosotros, siento que el tiempo separados nos ayudó a madurar en muchos aspectos y estamos muy felices.


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Estamos trabajando como familia desde casa en la venta de prasadam lo que nos tiene muy contentos, acá todos cocinan muy bien y yo algunos días de la semana atiendo el local de mi amiga Maha Anandini, esto me ha ayudado tanto a sacar la bondad de mi corazón, y poder llegar a las personas, ellas se van muy felices del local y siempre vuelven, además también distribuimos libros todo el tiempo especialmente el Bhagavad Gita, es muy inspirador.


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En casa tenemos nuestro altar, tenemos un estándar simple pero constante y todo lo que vendemos se los ofrecemos a nuestras deidades, Jagannatha, Baladeva y Subhadra fueron hechos por nosotros hace ya 17 años, me emociona poder servirlos y pensar que ya llevan tantos años con nosotros.


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Personalmente estoy comenzando un pequeño proyecto donde puedo desarrollar mis habilidades artísticas, creativas, la escritura, leer en voz alta y todo lo que me gusta, se trata de un podcast en Spotify acerca de la Conciencia de Krishna, esto me entusiasma tanto


Gurudeva porque es algo que lo vengo pensando hace tiempo y poder empezarlo me alegra mucho, estoy orando a Srila Prabhupada para hacer esta ofrenda desde el corazón y poder compartirla con los demás, el podcast se llama Bhaktimala y tendrá reflexiones acerca del bhaktiyoga, lectura de libros de la literatura vedica, celebraciones importantes en la cultura vaisnava y su significado y entrevistas. Estoy aprendiendo a editar y sobre todo a dejar a un lado las limitaciones que muchas veces tenemos, oró humildemente por sus bendiciones para este proyecto.


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Por último mi sadhana es Mangalarati por la mañana, 16 rondas, lectura, FMP, gracias a Krishna el trabajo que tengo ahora me permite hacer el programa de la mañana tranquilamente y por las noches escucho sus lecturas y algún capítulo de el Krishna Book. 16 rondas y 4 principios ok 😉


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Estoy haciendo el Bhakti Sastri a ritmo de tortuga pero vamos avanzando de a poco, espero terminarlo para el próximo año.


Me gustaría mucho poder ir a verlo a Perú Gurudeva, pero sé que esta ocupado en al realización de la película y que el aforo es limitado, pero desde acá esperamos seguirlo en todos los programas que podamos para tener su asociación.


Mil gracias Gurudeva por toda la inspiración que derrama sobre todos, espero poder ser alguien útil para usted y Srila Prabhupada, mis reverencias eternas Gurudeva.


Se despide su aspirante a discípula Alankriti Devi Dasi 🙏

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HpS - Super!!! Pienso miles de personas van a ser afectado por sus austeridades. En vida anterior fue un Sannyasi???

Pero, por favor unos fotos de Vds. Demas personas!!! La Yatra!!


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1008 - Second Initiation Part 2


Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Guru Maharaja, HG Pyari Mohan Prabhu said he sent the letter of recommendation to [email protected] yesterday. I finished Bhakti Sastri in 2019 and the ISKCON disciples course in 2016. 🙏


About the date of the initiation, whatever you say is fine, Guru Maharaja.


Thank you very much.


Your humble servant,

Sugopi Radha Devi dasi


HpS - AGTSP!!!!!!!! ! ! ! ! ! ....... paoho......... we saw the letter listed in our "vip" mail box. We will look at it and then we can have the initiation ceremony. Should we do it in the new Connecticut temple? ? ?


Then third initiation, 4th.. 5th... taking a part directly in the Mahabharata con Krsna. What role should you play???

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AmD

3 years, 4 months ago by anandamayadas in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna Gurudeva

Por favor acepte mis humildes reverencias.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!


Espero encontrarlo más descansado.


Me hubiera gustado mucho poder verlo y conversar en persona.


Voy a escribir en esta carta lo que estaba esperando decirle personalmente, por favor no lo publique.


HpS - Certainly general comments:

Hare Krishna, AmD,

Muchísimas gracias por esta carta. Quizás somos un 75% de devotos sinceros y más allá de eso, nuestros ojos están fallando, etc.

Luego vimos el título de esta publicación y pensamos que era la carta anterior que había enviado, así que no la abrí hasta ahora.

Por supuesto, hemos conversado por Whatsapp y esperamos hablar por teléfono contigo con Parama karuna Das.


Hemos escuchado algunos comentarios sobre esta situación, y los de Patrak parecen ser los más directos, lúcidos y con su habitual motivación muy sincera.


Personalmente, nos enfrentamos a muchos desafíos personales como el suyo de otros amigos y discípulos, por lo que no podemos dar la atención personal a cada uno que queremos.


Tu historia ciertamente parece normal. Dentro del rango del Srimad Bhagavata. No dejes que The Witch destruya tu entusiasmo. Todos somos puros. Todos cometemos errores y luego tenemos que corregirlos. Eso es todo. Nadie tiene derecho a no aceptar la corrección de una situación.

¡¡Todos somos demasiado esenciales para los planes de Krsna de separarnos del movimiento Sankirtan !!

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