How to know (be sure) that/if Krishna and Rama want me to "kill" demons in ISKCON?
Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada!
In connection with what you wrote here (and in many other places you mention the same point)
https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/15208/
"If people are dressing themselves falsely as leaders of the institution but at heart are self seeking demons then we shall chant Hare Krsna, Hare Rama, praying for Rama and Krsna to save all the honest members of Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON, and if They want us to kill demons it will be obvious that we are just Their instruments."
How could I be sure that Krishna and Rama want me to "kill" demons in ISKCON? Of course, I do not want to kill anyone, literally. However, there may be particular ISKCON laws and attitudes that I do not want to sign to or follow, and I may be embarrassed to be in such an organization.
I know that first I should look into my own heart and all the garbage there, and deal with that. Still, sometimes, some actions/words/expressions of others I do not approve. I am not sure if I should go into a clashing of thoughts with ISKCON authorities, because my experience is that it causes a lot of emotionally surcharged words and dealings and, in the end, it may not give (my) desired result.
I am mindful that all the answers could be given from Krishna in the heart if I am sufficiently clean and the sattva guna (visuddha sattva?) predominates in my consciousness. But then..., as I was doing until now, better I keep my mouth shut.
Another point is that I believe that many things can be told, but there is a way how to say it (internally (the mood) and externally (the tone and expression)). Like not judging the person(s), not attacking their personality, not calling them bad words, etc.
And..., I remember your story with a TP from San Francisco, when you talked with him openly (in private) and he talked back to you openly, explaining why is he acting in the way he is.
If it is possible, would you like to comment on this topic, apart from chanting better japa, getting up always at 4 AM for mangala arati, praying to Krishna, reading SP's books deeply, talking with other devotees, minding my own business, etc? To be clear, I do not have anything against these activities. I am asking if there is more elaboration, help, advice, and experiences in connection to this subject.
If you would like to answer by audio or video, that is very fine with me. If that is the case, I will need to know where is the file/recording.
Thank you, again, and again!
Your servant Namacarya Das
HpS - Hare Krsna. I remember our travels to Lucknow. 🙂
One example of this was also in the Berkeley Temple.
After Mangala arati we were chanting Japa in the temple room. is big. holds 200+ people.
and i walked into the lobby.
there was one street guy, maybe 26 years old from Telegraph Ave who used to visit the Temple a lot, but he was on some kind of drugs, and was saying very offensive things about Prabhupada.
he knew enough KC to really irritate the devotees.
there were about six b'cari's there just about to tear him into little pieces. he was physically threatening everyone.
quite spontaneously as i walked past him i dropped, got him right in the solar plexus with my right shoulder and bounced him off the wall behind him.
he fell to the ground stunned.
the b'caris picked him up and tossed him out the front door,
and at breakfast he came back really miserable.
begggggging for forgiveness.
apologizing for everything
and devotees accepted it.
i just kept on walking.
i think it was KRSNA using my Karate conditioning.
i didn't plan it.
afterwards everyone felt good about it.
i felt,'hey, i'm really cool', but realized that it was KRSNA.
b'caris were glad that they didn't fight with a basically good guy.
o.k?
another one is yuddhisthira. he was guided by God, the Brahmanas and vedic literature, so bhisma said that even though he caused the death of 640,000 people it was cool!
chant hare krsna [god], talk with six nice devotees [brahmanas] and find justification in prabhupada's books [vedic literature], then you can take big recourses.
is some help?