Reflections on Balabhadra's Prabhu letter

2 months, 3 weeks ago by bhaktanicasio in Special Category B, Hot Topics

asa[e] iskcon


Hare Krishna, Dear Gurudeva,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Dear Gurudeva,

Thank you so much for your association! The mere possibility of our Sunday sanga makes ISKCON worthwhile, even if everything else in the organization were wrong. Just this possibility alone makes it worth being in ISKCON.

Regarding the Panihati festival we discussed one Sunday, we saw one of the principles taught in this pastime: we can do nothing without the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Raghunath Das Goswami could not get rid of his family ties without the mercy of Lord Chaitanya. This brings to mind, and we wanted to take the opportunity to comment on the class, and also on the letter from Balabhadra Prabhu in Boise, Idaho, who was upset with his congregation and wanted to move somewhere else. https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/15617/


We don't know the details, but in a sense, it might be okay for him to go to another congregation, although we would like to share a bit of our personal experience, because we have also had the same feelings.


We remember when you also expressed your feelings about your congregation. We recall you saying that you disagreed with the politics of the temples and didn't want to get involved, and that you were determined to sleep on a park bench and freeze to death chanting Hare Krishna. Then your invitation to go to Peru arrived, and there your perspective changed.


HpS - It was not exactly the Congregation. They were a little irrelevant to the issue. It was the administrators who demanded that if we were going to domicile under their Temple roof that then we should use our preaching position to support their political agendas. Oooof! Other Sannyasis in ISKCON report the same pressure. Think Sannyasis in any religion will report the same thing. It is natural.

The other side is that Sannyasis should!! cooperate with the administration. Respect there role. Several times with Srngi and Parasurama it is pointed out that in certain aspects killing the king is worse than killing a Brahmana.

When we got the invitation from Peru it did not change our attitude, it just allowed us to go on in ISKCON institution, because we encountered a President who didn't want political subservience from us.

Thank you.


Our realization is that when we felt frustrated with the congregation, it was due to one of two reasons: the first, due to "overdelivery," meaning, overexerting ourself. When you do more than you can, you expect more than you should. If we make an artificial renunciation and push ourselves more than we are able, naturally, our expectation is greater.


HpS/ASA - NoI 2 ? Niyama agraha.


The other factor is that we want to control things somehow. Sometimes we believe we know or understand what is best for the congregation, to be the "best friend."


However, sometimes, by the mercy of Krishna and even Prabhupada, everything is under the supervision of the internal potency. The analogy you give, that Maya is like swimming in the ocean, is very clear. Sometimes the waves knock us down and carry us away, and sometimes they bring us closer to the shore. We have noticed the same in our own spiritual life. Sometimes we swim very hard, but then we rest and realize that only the Lord's mercy can help us. Then, one stops swimming, lets go, but then the waves of Maya start dragging us away again. It's a balance between controlling and exerting ourselves, and then allowing Krishna's mercy to act.

When one finds this point of balance—which we could also call humility—we understand our position, what our contribution is, what the devotees need, and how we can best serve the mission. When the congregation gives us something back that is uncomfortable, the response must be to look inward and see if we are not incurring these faults: doing more than we can (with an incorrect expectation) or controlling too much.


HpS - Same in the marriage and family community, no?


We have noticed that when devotees leave due to this pattern, their Krishna consciousness does not improve. We cannot kill our soul. Bhagavad Gita 5.15 is very clear in this regard. (And the Supreme Lord does not assume responsibility for anyone's sinful or pious activities. However, the embodied beings are bewildered because of the ignorance covering their true knowledge). We believe that ISKCON is one of the best hospitals for the soul, to get rid of our material consciousness and enter into our spiritual consciousness.

We felt like we were in a tsunami, wallowing in suffering, until we met Srila Prabhupada. The synthesis of his message is: chant Hare Krishna as much as you can, never stop chanting. That is like a boat with oars that will take you in the right direction.

Our recommendation, both for ourself and for the devotee in Idaho, is that when we feel hostility from our congregation, we can withdraw, dance, share a kirtan and prasadam with the devotees. In that way, it is very easy to enter into the internal potency. Afterwards, we can simply withdraw and do our personal service at home, relating to the congregation in that way.

This is better than wanting to cut ties with the congregation, because this is the world of duality: the congregation is not all good or all bad, it's a mix of both. We have to learn to take the good and tolerate the bad for our own purification. And if we purify ourselves, the congregation will too.


Gurudev, these are our reflections. I would like to hear your comment and your opinion on the matter. Do you think they are correct, or are they just our own speculations?

Your foolish servant,

Nikunja Bihari das.


HpS - Seems like 90% what we would say, and I think 90% of what Bala bhadra Das would agree, and I think that you me and he all kind of smile and say that it is easier to understand the basic philosophy than to apply it sometimes. 😃

Also, of course, there are details. You know that First Aid is great, but being trained as a full Medical Doctor allows you to relate to so many strange combinations of the diseases.

Thank you!

More of this later!!!!!




Hare Krishna, Amado Gurudeva,

Por favor, acepte nuestras humildes reverencias.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Querido Gurudeva,

Muchas Gracias por su Asociación!! El solo hecho de tener la posibilidad de este sanga los domingos ya hace que ISKCON valga la pena, aun si todo lo demás en la organización estuviera mal. Solo con esta posibilidad, vale la pena estar en ISKCON.

En referencia al festival de Panihati que discutimos un domingo, vimos uno de los principios que se enseñan en este pasatiempo: no podemos hacer nada sin la misericordia de la suprema personalidad de la divinidad. Ragunath Das Goswami no pudo deshacerse de sus lazos familiares sin la misericordia del Señor Chaitanya. Esto me trae a la mente y quería aprovechar a comentar sobre la clase, y también sobre la carta de Balabhadra Prabhu en Boise, Idaho, que estaba enojado con su congregación y quería irse a otro lugar. https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/15617/

No conozco los detalles, pero en un sentido, puede que esté bien que se vaya a otra congregación, aunque me gustaría compartir un poco mi experiencia personal, porque yo también he tenido los mismos sentimientos.

Recordé cuando usted también manifestó su sentir respecto a su congregación. Recuerdo que usted decía que no estaba de acuerdo con la política de los templos y no quería comprometerse, y que estaba decidido a dormir en el banco de una plaza y morir congelado cantando Hare Krishna. Luego llegó su invitación para ir a Perú, y ahí su perspectiva cambió.

Mi realización es que cuando me sentí frustrado con la congregación, se debió a una de estas dos razones: la primera, por un "overdelivery", es decir, por esforzarme de más. Cuando uno hace más de lo que puede, espera más de lo que debe. Si hacemos una renuncia artificial y nos esforzamos más de lo que podemos, naturalmente, nuestra expectativa es mayor. El otro factor es que queremos controlar de alguna manera. A veces creemos que sabemos o entendemos qué es lo mejor para la congregación. Ser el “mejor amigo”.

Sin embargo, a veces, por la misericordia de Krishna e incluso de Prabhupada, todo está bajo la supervisión de la potencia interna. La analogía que usted da, de que Maya es como estar nadando en el océano, es muy clara. A veces las olas nos tumban, nos llevan, y a veces nos acercan más a la orilla. He notado lo mismo en mi propia vida espiritual. A veces nado muy fuerte, pero luego descanso y me doy cuenta de que solo la misericordia del Señor puede ayudarme. Entonces, uno deja de nadar, se suelta, pero luego las olas de Maya lo empiezan a arrastrar de nuevo. Es un balance entre controlarnos y esforzarnos, y después permitir que la misericordia de Krishna actúe.

Cuando uno encuentra este punto de equilibrio —que también podríamos llamar humildad—, entiende su posición, cuál es su aporte, qué necesitan los devotos y cómo puede servir mejor a la misión. Cuando la congregación me devuelve algo que es incómodo, la respuesta es mirar hacia adentro y observar si yo no estoy incurriendo en estas faltas: hacer más de lo que puedo (con una expectativa incorrecta) o controlar demasiado.

He notado que cuando los devotos se alejan por este patrón, su conciencia de Krishna no mejora. No podemos matar nuestra alma. El Bhagavad Gita 5.15 es muy claro en este sentido. ( Y el Señor Supremo tampoco asume la responsabilidad de las actividades pecaminosas o piadosas de nadie. Sin embargo, los seres encarnados están confundidos a causa de la ignorancia que cubre su verdadero conocimiento). Creo que ISKCON es uno de los mejores hospitales para el alma, para deshacernos de nuestra conciencia material y entrar en nuestra conciencia espiritual.

Yo me sentía en un tsunami, revolcándome en el sufrimiento, hasta que conocí a Srila Prabhupada. La síntesis de su mensaje es: canta Hare Krishna todo el tiempo que puedas, nunca dejes de cantar. Eso es como un bote con remos que te llevará en la dirección correcta.

Mi recomendación, tanto para mí como para el devoto de Idaho, es que cuando sintamos hostilidad por parte de nuestra congregación, podemos retirarnos, bailar, compartir un kirtan y prasadam con los devotos. De esa manera, es muy fácil entrar en la potencia interna. Después, simplemente podemos retirarnos y hacer nuestro servicio personal en casa, relacionándonos con la congregación de esa manera.

Esto es mejor que querer cortar con la congregación, porque este es el mundo de la dualidad: la congregación no es toda buena ni toda mala, es una mezcla de las dos. Tenemos que aprender a tomar lo bueno y tolerar lo malo para nuestra propia purificación. Y si nosotros nos purificamos, la congregación también lo hará.

Gurudev, estas son mis reflexiones. Me gustaría escuchar su comentario y su opinión al respecto. ¿Le parecen correctas o son solo especulaciones mías?

Su tonto sirviente,

Nikunja Bihari das.

Informe colecta audífonos

4 months ago by jayanta in Hot Topics

Reverencias a todos.

Este es el informe de la colecta de fondos en España para los audífonos de Gurudev.

Informe a los devotos a través de un chat de whatsapp de discípulos que tenemos en España y la respuesta fue:

Adiras 108 euros

Gadadhara 108 “

Jaganmohan 50. “

Jayanta. 92. “

Krisna Kirtan 50. “

Mathura Mani 80. “

Purnamasi. 108. “

Yugala. 20 “

TOTAL. 616 “

Ha sido un placer hacer el servicio

vs

Jayanta das


HpS/ASA - I feel, Srila Prabhupada Ki Jaya! very ashamed. Why should people be spending money for ear phones for me.

If people donated what they actually thought it was worth to them, that is fine. Spiritual life is not a matter of sentimental speculation or imaginative ecstasy, rather practical activity in the foreground of spiritual life.


They do help, but like so many devotees my social and physical background, our eyes, ears, heart, skin, joints, voice are disintegrating so that the elements can be recycled into new bodies.


We need to spend 27% of our time packing up to leave for our next body.


The rest is just for our regular Sankirtan development using the tools and potency Krsna provides us.


Paoho!!

We hope we can use technology to serve you and Srila Prabhupada's Sankirtan movement.

Hari-bhakti-vilāsa unnecessarily ritualistic

4 months ago by Namacarya das in Hot Topics

Dear Guru Maharaja, Hare Krishna!

Please accept my humble obeisances (to all your divine forms of a monk, monkey and piggy.)

All glories to AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada!


You mentioned (in different talks) something like that Hari-bhakti-vilāsa is unnecessarily ritualistic.

Is that from this purport, or is it from somewhere else?


https://vedabase.io/en/library/cc/madhya/23/105/#bb1108811


Thank you!


Your servant Namacarya Das


HpS - I, agtSP, thought that we already answered this important letter.

The above link seems like what we read, but we also have some recollection of hearing SP talk about it in like a letter etc.

Same thing.


For us it just points out that the major points are repeated with depth and perspective again and again and again in the SB, SP's purports etc. so that we have sufficient info to be intimately connected to him and Krsna.


Then, we must appreciate other important literature in the basic perspective of Srila Prabhupada's comments.


I think Jaiva Dharma is an example of this, that it was also written with very specific time and circumstance content and we have to understand it in terms of SP's books.

We can, must, use all the books, buckets and brooms in the world in KRSNA's service, and SP's books are the proper perspective, no?


Thank you so much for your association.

Hope you find your position as leader of ISKCON!

The extreme south could be a good option for keeping body and soul together nowadays

4 months, 2 weeks ago by jagad.guru.das in Hot Topics

All Glories to Sri Sri Radha Syamasundara


All Glories to Sri Sri Gaura Nitai


All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,


Hare Krishna Dear Guru Maharaja,


Please, accept my try of rendiring humble obeisances unto you.


I'm writing you because in my daily reading of Srimad Bhagavatam I faced this sloka a few day ago:


satyaṁ puṣpa-phalaṁ vidyād

ātma-vṛkṣasya gīyate

vṛkṣe ’jīvati tan na syād

anṛtaṁ mūlam ātmanaḥ


The Vedas enjoin that the factual result of the tree of the body is the good fruits and flowers derived from it. But if the bodily tree does not exist, there is no possibility of factual fruits and flowers. Even if the body is based on untruth, there cannot be factual fruits and flowers without the help of the bodily tree.


(Source: Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Canto 8, Text 39.)


That sloka caught my attention, particularly regarding the value of this body. Srila Prabhupada provides insightful comments about it, but one stood out to me, and especially relevant during times of international tension and the threat war on this planet.


"Even if for the sake of argument the material world is accepted as untruth, the living entity entangled in the illusory energy cannot come out of it without the help of the body. Without the help of the body, one cannot follow a system of religion, nor can one speculate on philosophical perfection. Therefore, the flower and fruit (puṣpa-phalam) have to be obtained as a result of the body. Without the help of the body, that fruit cannot be gained. The Vaiṣṇava philosophy therefore recommends yukta-vairāgya. It is not that all attention should be diverted for the maintenance of the body, but at the same time one’s bodily maintenance should not be neglected."


That Prabhupada instruction reminds me of one of the conversations that Srila Prabhupada had with Brahma Tirtha prabhu, registered in the famous in "Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers" book.


Śrīla Prabhupāda: So long as you are in the material world, you cannot neglect physical laws. Suppose you go to a jungle and there is a tiger. It is known that it will attack you, so why should you voluntarily go and be attacked? It is not that a devotee should take unnecessary physical risks. He shouldn’t think, “Now that I have become a devotee, I challenge everything.”


Source: "Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers", Chapter SIX, The Perfect Devotee.


Why am I sharing these quotes with you now? So, first is important read the context surrounding.



Context > Good destination south of the south

A couple of hours ago, the United States bombed Iran, and China and Russia aren't "happy" with this. It is well known that. On the other hand, Iran, in its national TV broadcast, a presenter on state television stated that "now every American citizen or military personnel constitutes a legitimate target".


Then, a few days I watched this video of 1:08 length from a specialised Instagram account focused on data about geopolitics.


https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ2enu5ZacIM11d8nO8EB9kxv2sUCXeJ2CmX


Interestingly, they have almost 80.000 followers with only 108 publications at the moment of this post 😄

. (Screenshots attached) The Economic Times from India Times confirmed it: - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/latest-updates/10-safest-countries-to-seek-refuge-if-world-war-3-breaks-out/chile/slideshow/115623826.cms


So, our proposal and invitation, Guru Maharaj, is that you change you residence to Chile, instead of USA. At least in these crazy moments.


Chile, the country

So, Guru Maharaja, Chile is one of the countries with the most socio-economic stability in South America. Maybe Uruguay, too. But there is no temple there.


Santiago leads Latin America in the recent Global Cities Index 2025 ranking by Oxford Economics (source index.goodcountry.org). This indicator evaluates the global performance of cities, focusing on the economy, human capital, quality of life, environment, and governance. 


Specifically, the capital of Chile was chosen as the best city in Latin America, ranking above Buenos Aires, Mexico City, Monterrey, and Lima. 


Santiago’s strong performance is largely due to its 33rd place in the Human Capital category, which reflects the quality of its educational infrastructure and the concentration of universities and corporate headquarters that attract talent," stated Oxford Economics’ senior economist, Anthony Bernard-Sasges.


- Chile is the safest country for investment in Latin America (Source: The Economist, Intelligence Unit 2021)


- Two universities in the TOP 5 of the best universities of Latin America now in 2023, and one of them has been number one for a lot of years in a row (Source: topuniversities)


- Chile ranks as Latin America’s most innovative economy in 2022 (Source: World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO))


- Chile’s homicide rate remains among the least violent nations in Latin America. (Source:NGO Insight Crime)



Chile, the yatra

We have four programs every week in the temple: Philosophical Monday, Wednesday of Kirtan, Prabhupada's Night every Friday, and the Sunday Feast starting with lunch.


There are 6 different nama hattas, and 2 monthly programs of public programs with municipalities/yoga studios, and also regular visits from schools and different universities to the temple.


Pictures here of the last week:


Universidad Diego Portales: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YOxAiUOz4Bablmju6I4x6UwVQKQ_W8GP?usp=sharing


Universidad de Chile:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YRP7h0uwIt8XTRFxtNvXcrCN5uwdoEbd?usp=sharing


From this last visit this Monday, I received this WhatsApp after two days of the visit asking for the lectures of the Bhagavad Gita on Monday (screenshot attached too).


As a temple president, I can tell you too that more than 50 devotees are donating as members of the "Membresía Trascendental" every month, and the whole temple is working financially because of those devotees. And another 30 devotees are willing to join without too much advertising. Just one official Bank Account of ISKCON Chile, and a monthly transparent report.


Krishna West in Chile, led by Pancali devi dasi, HDG disciple and your disciple Madhu Mangala, and Pandu prabhu and his wife Madri devi dasi, has more than 60 people chanting japa and with Bhagavatam Classes every day.


If we talk about the preaching programs in the rest of the country, the utsahan expands.


Chile had 4 Ratha Yatras in the last year for the first time (Punta Arenas, Coyaique, Santiago and Viña del Mar).


There is more positive information that I can share privately with you about the yatra here. But now I can tell you



Conclusion


We have different places available here to invite you to stay in this country without any cost, in the countryside, in the city, different neighbourhoods, and of course, the temple itself, suitable for the spring and summer.


So, your presence here could help us to be sure that your physical body is safer for a while, at least until things get more relaxed and less turbulent there in the countries of the north. So Chile is a real possibility.


Thank you, Guru Maharaja, for your time to read to us.



Your servant,


Jagad Guru Das.


HpS ASA 🐒🦍🦍🦍

Hare Krishna.


Most fundamental for us is that we have always felt that Peru is our home, Chile is our Sankirtan spot and we need an office, but we are so old and incompetent that at this moment, 6.26pm, we cannot even walk nine mahamantras to our village temple.


Oooof!


Seems we will be camped here until Janmastami, then we just bought tickets for three weeks in Nashville.


After that who knows?


Hare Krishna.


Many surprises in store for you all in Iskcon Chile.




A Humble Inquiry on “Shadow ISKCON” and Pioneering in Bhakti

4 months, 3 weeks ago by Namacarya das in Hot Topics

Dear Guru Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!



You kindly wrote to me:

“So much of what ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada’s ISKCON—not the shadow ISKCON—is, is pioneering.”


If I may ask, could you please elaborate on what you mean by shadow ISKCON? I would be grateful to understand what that refers to, both in theory and in how it might be recognized in practice.



Also, regarding pioneering spirit in Krishna bhakti—through my years trying to serve and grow as a bhakta, I’ve often felt that attempts at pioneering or fresh sharing of Krishna consciousness were met more with caution or opposition, rather than encouragement—especially from some persons in positions of authority.



Of course, I could be wrong in my perception, but I’m trying to reconcile this with the idea of Srila Prabhupada’s movement being so pioneering by nature. If you feel it is appropriate, I would deeply value your thoughts on this tension and how to navigate it in a sincere and constructive spirit.

Your servant, Namacarya Das


HpS - AgtSP. I don't exactly remember by 'shadow' iskcon. it is not a term that srila prabhupada uses, no?

in general it is just a simple concept, no?

srila prabhupada required with great vigor that he be listed on all of his books as the founder acharya of iskcon.

not at only diksa guru etc. etc.

other positions as they are mentioned in his books are certainly wonderful and practical.

yet as a fundamental title, this is the one he put on the cover of all of this books before he left his body.

in the NoI we looked at how he defined iskcon, this movement, and it started with non-envious, following four principles, rounds, up early, associating with discrimination with three different kinds of devotees in the society.

then we have others who claim to accept srila prabhupada as their acharya but don't follow his standards.

we see physical institutions, people in institutional positions, pretending to represent srila prabhupada, but using his good name and institutions good name for little or big deviations to strive for personal illusory fruits.


nothing new, no?


have to learn to distinguish mother yasoda from putana.


-then KRSNA will take care of Putana.


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we take text three of noi as basis for pioneering in iskcon. utsahan is more important than patience, but without patience, enthusiasm turns into passion.


in one food fight between lord nityananda and adwaita acharya, srila prabhupada comments that LN is avadhuta and AA is smarta. Revolutionaries and Conservatives.

He says that they have never understood each other and they never will.

Left and Right Wing Gopis.

Yet, in spiritual life they love each other like anything. Radha LOVES Candravali, but She loves to fight with Her!


Maya is coming up with newer and newer ways to tempt the conditioned souls, and Krsna and Balarama et al are coming up with newer and newer ways to get them out of Maya.

After each incarnation K/B et al, pause to review this incarnation.


I think when Maya, Vaisnavi, made Agha asura, it was the first time. Krsna was amazed. "Wow💥!.."


Letter on Management, Srila Prabhupada established the GBC and said that he had also established Sannyasa and they had their duties also. one of which was to report to the gbc on possibilities of places for establishing new center.

report new communities.

new blog spots.


mangal ananda das was composing new songs in english.

they were tasteful and philosophically correct and very inspiring.

he asked SP if it was O.K. and commented that some of the senior men in iskcon said that he should not do it.

SP is reported to have said, "the cows will moo, but the caravan will pass".


hope this is useful! 🐵

anveSika - HPS Announcement WhatSApp Community

4 months, 4 weeks ago by steve_brown in Hot Topics

Hare Krsna, Dear Devotees,

PAMHO, AGTSP.


Steve Brown here, sub-divisional secretary of Tom Brown. 🐵

As you may have heard, Tom Brown, Hanumat Presaka Swami et al are replacing Twitter with a Whatsapp Community.


The Community name is anveSika - HPS Updates. There are a few Whatsapp Groups created that will be part of this anveSika - HPS Updates Community.


If you live in USA or Canada please join this Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/JjUV5GtZ1u6CkJ8hjzx37M


If you live in Latin America please join this Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/E1AhFXc1ZsWKyKWCP8RqiQ


If you live in Mexico please join this Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CoX72drYK280CcN3k9pwZ2


If you live in India or Australia please join this Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LtqCHz9QqXT99VSk9BxjGu


Spain or Europe this Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/EWkPLJEDdpFCJfJekfkTbe


Any other place on this planet or any of the planets mentioned in the Bhagavata Purana, please join this General group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/IFKaYDJvQhF4UxzYxSwm43


There is also a group for eccentric Academics which will be shared individually.


All of the above Groups are just to receive of announcements from the WhatsApp Community. No member chatting. Use the Blog.


The group admin, from the same region, can validate people requesting to join.

Admin will speak same language, be some one the requester may know.


Finally all test groups used so far will be removed from the community. So, please join one of the above groups to be part of these announcements.


Steve Brown