asa[e]; prabhupada; poisoning conspiracy [p-con]

mayesvara w-roberts

Wrote to us at our Yahoo address:

To:

Bir Krishna das Goswami

Dr. Sunil ie: Satswarupa

Tukaram Pr

Giriraj Swami

and 2 more...

Bcc:

HpSwami

Sat, Nov 27 at 9:27 AM

Haribolo Honored Prabhu!

Please accept my respects. All Glories to Sri Guru & Sri Gauranga!

Please review my concerns regarding the 2017 GBC's promise to provide a formal statement regarding the Poison Conspiracy (P-Con).

Here is the list of devotees who signed on to that promise.

ASA - Not in Blog format.

I hope this meets you in good health!

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mayesvara dasa ACBSP

AKA: william g. roberts MBS/MIS, CCP

687 West Villanova Rd.

Ojai, California 93023

Who Is mayesvara das?

http://jagannatha.com/who-is-mayesvara-dasa-acbsp/

http://jagannatha.com/library/deception-pcon-t-com/

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We, HpS/ASA, answered:

AgtSP!!!  ...paoho... Thank you very much for sending us this letter and attached letter. I graduated 1st place in psychology with minor studies in biology and electrical engineering from the university of california. So, I have a pretty respectable education in the scientific basis of the Srila Prabhupada poisoning conspiracy (p-con) discussion. Then with Nitai-gaurasundara Das, Dr. Ravi P. Sing, Head of Geriatric Psychiatry at one of biggest mental hospitals in Tennessee, we discussed the p-con from time to time. We came to the same general conclusions as your book, and then when it was released we appreciated them as very definitive.

In terms of the GBC response, as you have presented the history, I would agree that the GBC should issue an institutional statement.

Besides the options mentioned by you below, another would be that: They accept your books as excellent discussions on the topics, that anyone interested in the themes, should read, and that they are written a certain particular humor which the GBC does not find offensive, but of course represents a particular flavor of the author and many people who might feel it is the best way to discuss such topics.

[Maybe] The GBC feels certain topics in Mayesvara Das' books need to be considered more carefully, and certainly does not wish to curtail any well meant discussion on these topicsb,

But for its own considerations, now feels that the current evidence does not support a p-con that has or could significantly influence our institution's efforts to expand Srila Prabhupada's movement.

Of course, this is my opinion. The GBC is an administrative, political, body to my understanding. The Ultimate, so, they may have pragmatic reasons for not making a public statement. "In any public discussion a politician should never clearly declare his own position". A general should never make public the full position of his army.

Yet, my pragmatic advice would be that, yes, they should make a public statement and include your work as very central. A general should disclose his position well enough so his allies and subordinates can understand how to relate to him.

At your service,

HpSwami

Hare Krsna dear Gurudeva

PAOHO AGTSP!!

• I have just sent a message to the representatives of the Ministry mentioning your comments.
• You said that it was not necessary to elaborate much on the subject of VAD but let me suggest the participation of Sarvabhamuma das and its Vanaprastha community program in Brazil. There are many people interested in a program of this nature.
• The same with Subhadra devi dasi. She leads a very successful early childhood education program, which attracts many children from 4 years to adolescence. Her program is very close to our reality and we believe that her participation can inspire and offer alternatives to those who wants or already have a similar program.
• On the other hand, Brazil has always stood apart given the language distance, but it is important to bring it closer to the development of Spanish-speaking communities. They have a lot to offer. Mataji can lead her presentation towards formative education rather than VAD.
• Sessions would preferably be at 7:30 am?

HpS - Sounds good to us. Others could be organized at other times during the day, week. We hope that ASA can continue to host programs Eg. When we get to Houston March 7th-17th.

• Indira Sakti dd is already working on the issue of visual communication. When we have something ready, we send it to you to receive your feedback.
• I had a conversation with Karuna Krsna prabhu for almost an hour. He has always been very understanding with me (which I appreciate) and he is right, for one reason or another I have worked unnecessarily independently in recent months. We have agreed that I will present my reports to them during the next week and keep in regular contact going forward.

HpS - ASA - Thank you! We are almost in tears to hear this. Thank you.

• ISKCON Chosica will cooperate with the Symposium by facilitating the temple hall for some activities, but it will not be able to do so in the organizational order due to his duties.

HpS - Yes, we can understand this. We sent a Whatsapp message to Karuna and he answered with voice mail to Abhirama, so we are all pretty much on the same page. I am trying to work properly with National Council, Zonal Secretary, GBC Ministry of Education etc. Trying to get Caitanya-candra Das whatsapp number to say hello to him.

We have to talk with Srila Prabhupada.

We have to talk with our friends in ISKCON.

We have to talk with the GBC.

Also, if our local Temple, Chosika, can look at some announcements for their social media that would help and I think within their range of ability. We love the Temple. It is so, so, beautiful.

• I haven't had much contact with Tapana Misra das lately. The relationship with the Ministry has been permanent with Bhakta Rupa das, for management and administration issues. However, I must deliver my report to the Minister at the end of the year in which I will propose some ideas. Communication is very intermittent, although I think that is a serious problem at ISKCON as an institution.

HpS - Yes. How are we, ASA/NIOS, doing? You got the notice of a NIOS Board of Director's Meeting on the 25th November? We haven't seen your response yet? Do want to, can you, continue as a Director next year?

• Depending on what you require from us for the Symposium, Indira Sakti dd and I will travel to Lima at the end of the year (we would love to be present at your Vyasapuja) and we will stay for approximately 10 days. I ask that you can meet me personally to discuss some issues related to education and the services I provide in this area. Hopefully you will allow us to visit the asram very frequently during our stay.

HpS - What dates??? Yes...

• I would like to be part of the organization of the Houston, Madrid and Calcutta Symposia, if you consider it pertinent and necessary. Being at your service means peace in my mind, Gurudeva.

HpS - You have to ask Uncle Gismo if you can be on board the ASA boat! 😁

Of course, that means that you have to join in your archetypical form. Prof. Miguel Polo is a rabbit.

• Here is the schedule as it is to date

HpS - Looks fine. Then other people can organize individual sessions. Eg. a symposium live and online from Chosika Temple with Mother Subra Devi Dasi, Radhika, Patraka et al.

Your servant

Gandharva das

Trying to be your servant,

H. P. Swami



AGTSP paoho We just finished an incredible,

incredible

incredible

day with Oscar, Anna, their daughter and grandson! and Candramukhi, Mitravinda Devi Dasi Yugala-kishore Dasi and Jambavan, Pancha-tattva, Parama-karuna, Abhirama-thakura Das!!!

Paulo, Director of Cinematography,

Call to India with Dr. Samaresh.

We had a 1-1/2 hour talk with Oscar and Anna with excellent video and audio recording on Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu and the theory of drama and self realization etc.

Then a Sunday feast with the best Samosas, Cakori's etc that we have ever had, then eaten alive by the mosquitos to water our little beet, carrot et al sprouts.

Then.... here.

We looked at the urgent letters and none seem to be over three days old, so we will rest a little and then go to Gaura arati.

Drama is moving ahead.

See you in Sankirtan.

🙂

Namah OM Bishnupadaya, Krishna Presthaya Bhutale, Srimate Hanumat Preshak Swamin iti Namine

Namaste Hanumat Preshak Swami Namo Atiyanta Dayaluve, Kalijuga Pashyate Dese Gandharva Vidya Pradayene.

Srimat Hanumat Prashak Swami, Guru Maharajji, ki Jaye

Srila Prabhupad Gurumarajji ki Jaye

Jaye Shree Krishna Chaitainya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sree Advaita, Gadadhar, Sreebash, Adi Gaur Bhakta Brinda.

HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA

KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE

HARE RAMA HARE RAMA

RAMA RAMA HARE HARE

JAYE RADHE, JAYE KRISHNA

NITAI GAUR PREMANANDE HARI HARI BOL.

Hare Krishna, Gurumaharajji,

Dandawat Pranaam.

Plz accept my most humble obeisance onto your lotus feets. All glories to Guru and Gauranga.

Gurumaharajji i now feel very lonely n as if lost with out getting your kind and merciful association. Plz punish me for my miscreants but i beg you to consider me as dust mole onto your lotus feets.

HpS - ASA --- 🐘 🐘 🐘 Dust from the lotus feet of our great Acharya is in his books, no? So nice to hear from you. He is making big foot prints that we can all follow.

Gurumaharajji its around two years since I met you last. If possible please 🙏 forgive yours most foolish servant ever born on Earth (me), for not communicating you for the last two years.

HpS - We don't forgive you because it is just something that has happened. Now we get your association. This is eternal, after two years, three years...

Gurumaharajji, when I met you at that time my house's homely environment was not at all good. It was highly toxic. Panchali was pregnant and my father, instead of being the guardian of the home started drinking alcohol like anything and used to make home environment toxic by quarrelling and doing unnecessary activities.

On 8th/feb/2020, KRISHNA gifted ur a baby boy. Thank you 😊💓☺💗💛💖 Gurumaharajji for showering your immense mercy that we got an opportunity to serve a baby boy to be a honest and humble devotee in his future life. My father named him as Balaji Dutta.

By then my home environment was a bit better. But on April/2020, first lock down, my father had brain hemorrhage. We somehow managed an ambulance and took him to Guwahati, Rehman hospital. At there they did their best and got him cured. But the doctors told us that because of excess alcohol drinking my father is currently suffering from liver cirrhosis stage 1. And because of Covid, we couldn't go to any better hospitals somewhere in South India for further treatment during that time.

Months passed like this with his health not that improving and was not that getting bad also.

On June/21 my whole family was diagnosed as covid positive. During that time whatever ayurveda i knew, with that knowledge i served the rest of my family (my father, my mother, Panchali and even Balaji). We were all home quarantined but got cured at home itself, accept me. In my case the covid became severe with oxygen level had fallen to 52%. An so accordingly, I was admitted to local hospital in ICU for around 20 days.

But again it was yours immense mercy on me that brought me back alive to home. Thank you Gurumaharajji for saving us.

Now my father's cirrhosis had increased a bit more (stage 2). He was admitted at Silchar medical college in ICU, and from there, this time we have brought him to Medanta Hospital via air ambulance, at Gurgaon, near Delhi. At here Dr A.S. Soin, told me that his liver condition is bad so they are further looking for liver transplant. And so I am the probable donor.

I am singing my 16+ rounds daily but during my covid time i couldn't chant for around 3 months.

Hope to meet you soon if i survive, missing you badly. If my letter have displeased or hurt you in any respect then please forgive me Gurumaharajji.

Yours most foolish servant ever born on this Earth,

Viswambhar Gauranga Das

HpS - AgtSP. We wonder if giving your liver will really help your father??? If it cause you an untimely death and disturbs your service, then that is the greatest loss to him, whether he is in this body or that.

Chant Hare Krsna and get good advice from local devotees!!!

In any case Krsna is everyone's friend and He will give us inspiration to stay on the path back to Him.

God bless your family and son.

Sankirtan.

Please accept my humbles obediences Allll Glory for Srila Prabhupada

Gurudev, you wrote on the blog that you may need a secretary to help with your letters. We approached Balabadhra prabhu and informed him of this need. We are both interested in helping. Possibly I could read the Spanish letters and he could read the English and we can have weekly phone meetings to discuss briefly your letters from disciples.

I will be unforgettable service

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HpS - Like Srila Prabhupada, it would have to be someone with us, no? So nice to hear from you. We hope to visit Boise again between middle March and middle July. Then go to Spain and then go to Radha Kunda!!! Let's go!

Hare Krishna, Guru Maharaja.

PAMHO at your lettuce feets 🙃

AGTSP

Firts [first] of all, we are still alive. That´s the good new. We can make big efforts to focus our activities in bhakti service.

16 Rounds, 4 principles and very sweet sevas in the temple, helping cooking for Radha Madana Gopala, Raja Bhoga, Viakalika, Sandhya and last offer three days at week, dancing nice folklore, learning harmonium and working in the TESIS to get my scholar degree. I hope this can be a real thing next year. I am very enthusiastic. I was trying to be in FMP every day, but is a little difficult now that we are in different time zones. Heard you every day is a very nice medicine for this lethargy.

I write you because of all the letters I mention the wish to get married with Vraja Mohan Prabhu, so Bhakti Sundar Maharaja ask us to get merried this year, soon as posible. We talk about it and my wishes to first, take iniciation, and then get married. So, the desition is that in this december Vraja Mohan Prabhu will talk to my parents to make this "formal" thing as the tradition says here in Mexico, and then we will married next year. The autorities in México City, president and devotees ask me to talk with you about my wish to take first iniciation, are interested that I can make part of this ISKCON family and get iniciation of you. They give me a nice recomendation letter to take iniciation.

Finally thank you to be in my life, as I dont deserve it.

Your ever aspirant, Bhaktin Natyelli Garza.

Radhe Radheeeeee!!!

HpS - !!! Very nice. Have you read: http://www.jayarama.us/kd/guru-tattva.txt ??? If you have been following the standard described there for six months, then with letter from Temple President (disciple course), you can become a:

Formal Refugee

Six months more of service that you are now doing then you can become a first initiated devotee! Then second, then third, then fourth...

... chant with attention. Chant with meaning. Srila Prabhupada's SB, CC, TlC is full of meaningful prayers!! Take some of those for your mood in chanting your rounds, your constant chanting!

Thank you so much for your sacrifices in Krsna Consciousness!