Worshipping Baby Radha Rani deity.

2 days, 2 hours ago by sriram in Personal Sadhana Reports, Special Category B

asa[e] free will. cutting tree; deity worship, practical standard


Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj,


Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.


We just came back from India last week.


HpS/ASA - AgtSP! Paoho. We were contemplating your travels and your return. Of course, we had some news.


The birthday celebrations of both children - Dhaasharathi and Chandranana went really well. (HPS Blog). The ayushomam ceremony also went well with around 200 - 300 friends and relatives attending.


One of our friends gifted us a baby Radha Rani. We already have a Gopal deity (Vishaka's from before our wedding, worshipped as Radha Raman) which we were worshipping. Now we are worshipping them together. We are doing daily abishek with water and dressing them. We are also doing full morning program. We also have Paramananda Gaura Nitai (You named them Guru Maharaj). Is this enough or do we have to do something more for the Radha Krishna deities Guru Maharaj? Please guide us on what to do.


HpS - Sounds great to us. We remember a very ancient deity worship workshop that jananivasa das or panchanghri das did in mayapura with about 10 or us. he said that mother yasoda is taking care of most of the deity worship. we are helping.

he said that these are the prioritie:

  1. love
  2. cleanliness
  3. punctuality
  4. rituals and paraphernalia

From what we have heard from Prabhupada, bathing the deity can be very simple: two hands and one mouth. ring the bell with one hand, chant, govinda jaya jaya, and hare krsna with the mouth and pour the water with your other hand.


incense, lamp, flower, fragrnce/oil, bhoga!!

😃



We are reading the 10th canto during our FMP and are currently in chapter 41. I had a question from chapter 37, Guru Maharaj. In this chapter, Narada Muni lists all the things that are going to happen in the future including the Mahabharata war. How can Narada muni know whats going to happen in the future? Does this mean the people engaged in these predictions dont have free will? How can we understand this, Guru Maharaj?


HpS - A man is walking down the road and he sees a simple fellow sitting on a dead branch of a tall tree cutting off the branch for fire wood. unfortunately the cutter is about 15 feet up and sitting with the cutting work going on the part of the branch between him and the tree.

the man on the ground says, "Hey, be careful, you are going to fall down and hurt youself!". The cutter says leave me alone, go to MacDonalds and throughs some wood at him". The passer by says, "O.K. do what you want to do!". and walks off.

the cutter continues and the branch breaks {picture attached}, falls down cracks his head, comes back to consciousness five minutes later with a big headaches and says, "That man was a great mystic. he could see the future!"

some times we can see that things are very fixed.

other times we can see that they at 50% fixed.

O.K.??? 🙂


We are planning to visit Murfreesboro while you are visiting Guru Maharaj. We will probably come for Radhastami since that is on a Sunday. We are also visiting ISV from September 12th to 21st for the Vyasa Puja of HG Vaisesika Maharaj. Vishaka has taken shelter from Maharaj and is awaiting initiation. Please bless her Guru Maharaj to serve Prabhupada's mission to the best of her abilities.


HPS - Hare Krsna! Please stay in touch to coordinate your visit!!! I took first initiation in the same letter from Srila Prabhupada as Vaisesika Das took second.

Many years of friendship and common work.


I think Srinath told you about this Guru Maharaj, but we are currently working on building the ASA Archive/Encyclopedia website and it's coming along nicely. We will update you and give you a demo once its a bit further along Guru Maharaj.


HpS/ASA - Tom Brown's encyclopedia view of life.


Your humble servant

Sri Rama Krishna Das


HpS - Our full respects to family and Yatra. Thank you always for the cellular.



A report from desolation row

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaja!

Please accept these respectful obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!


I'm still processing our week with you in Boise and my time with you in Houston. Intense purification and Fun.


Thank you for this perspective on the Trnvarta pastime song. Indeed the traveling minstrel, the observer is the perfect and natural archetype to merge into for singing these folk songs...And so fascinating, the aesthetic difference between Dvaraka /Mathura and Vraja. I’ve always loved simple folk music(American and Peruvian). But also have some appreciation for the sophistication of orchestra music and the English gardens. Being in Radha Nilamadhava Dham was refreshing and deeply inspiring.


While I was there I had a really nice conversation about temple presidency with Saranga Thakur Prabhu after the boat ceremony. He said 50 percent of the job is knowing how to take criticism and then he said Jaya Krishna Prabhu after so many years of this service said it’s actually more like 75 percent of the job.


So I’ve been thinking a lot about what is criticism. Of course we should be focusing on our own shortcomings and how to improve, more than on others. But then if you are in a managerial position it seems like that has to intensify(fixing yourself up) and so this is why the purificatory process speeds up? Extra mercy may be given? And can a neophyte devotee give auspicious criticism (three fold) according to Bhativinoda Thakur’s definition of that term?


One little/big improvement: We are finally starting to play nice mellow kirtan/bajans on our speakers at the perfect volume during the Sunday Feast while devotees take Prasadam. After wanting to do this for so long and hearing it from you so many times..something finally clicked. Little steps in the right direction but seeing big improvements and nice steady momentum in New Biharvan Dham.


Slowly but surely my service here is feeling like a personal project. Thinking of it like this is helpful, Maharaja. Like a song or a play..I’m wrapping my head around your instruction and wanting to take it to heart. Personal projects can be collaborative. The rugged individualist and isolationist in me kicks and screams sometimes but I may have him under control. He’s a lonely simple guy that is ultimately looking for something more. Not satisfied.


HpS/ASA - AgtSP. Achintya bheda abheda tattva, dictates that as we develop our own unique character, we realize how it is properly, proportionally, and eternally connected to our society.

you have to play your instrument in the band, but you realize so much of it in terms of the performance of the whole band.



Maharaja, can gandharva’s or angels help with management just like they help with creative projects?


HpS - I guess, so? I think Krsna takes more responsibility in inspiration for management.


Relationships between devotees doing service at the temple are getting stronger/deeper. It seems like Radha Bankibihari are in control. Supreme disrupters and mischief makers, always looking for a good time at any cost.


Carl Jung’s ideas on the psychology of addiction has been such a helpful barometer and jumping off point when talking with new comers and in our own self analysis. And I keep thinking it is by your mercy that we have this wonderful bridge. And specifically a great connection to NOI.


More news to share soon. Until then we will be chanting japa with you, for you and because of you..and taking part in the morning Houston SB classes on YouTube in addition to our own KRSNA Book reading..


All the very best with your Janmashtami celebration! Thank you, Gurumaharaja.


your aspiring servant,

Nitisara das


HpS - We take criticism in terms of NOI 4, 5 and 6.

Then we ask ourselves if it is really letting us see things that we need to improve?

Maybe we are not even the target. Maybe the people crticizing us are just projecting there enemies of torture victims on us because of our social role or other things. then we see their emotional, psychological and spiritual problems as we avoid the assault and take helping them as our service.

Hmmm! 🙂

Thank you for our association!!!!!!

We hope Boise becomes very ISKCON conscious.

Carl Jung

2 days, 2 hours ago by di83 in Other

Gracias a usted conocí a Carl Jung. Gracias


HpS/ASA - 99.999% of our knowledge of Carl Jung has been motivated and illuminated by Srila Prabhupada's direct comments in Spiritual Dialecticism and his teaching in general!

Build a bridge between Jung and Bhakti siddhanta.

Personal sadhana Report

2 days, 2 hours ago by Yamuneswar Das in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna, Dandavat Pranam HpS Guru Maharaj.

Please accept my humble obeisance unto Guruji's padmacharan that I am trying to answer the question of the difference between Gayatri Mantra and Kama Gayatri.


There is no difference between Gayatri Mantra and Kama Gayatri but omitted kling in the Gayatri Mantra.


We should chant Kama Gayatri Mantra before chanting Hare Krishna Mahamantra. There is no difference among mantras, names, rupa, guna, Murti and Swarupa.

Your fallen servant,

Yamunesvara Das


HpS - AgtSP! To our understanding, what is commonly called the Gayatri Mantra is, "om bhur bhuvah....". Many groups chant it. Some as Kirtan, although we only do it as Gayatri and men with the sacred thread.


Look at: https://vedabase.io/en/library/cc/madhya/8/138/

Srila Prabhupada gives Himalaya mountain explanation of all these things following Krsna Das Kaviraja!

O.K.?


We chant all the Gayatri Mantras on our sacred thread at dawn, noon, and dusk, daily. No formal relation to when we chant the Mahamantra eg. chanting before we do Maha mantra Japa.

Thank you!

Anadi’s father left his body this morning

2 days, 2 hours ago by Nick Delffs in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Gurumaharaja, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.


Barry departed this morning. Stage 4 cancer, pneumonia, blood cancer..helped him get to his next body. It was a complicated and long process. He was ready to go.


Maharaja, can you wish him well on his journey? We are praying that he can stay connected to devotees and devotional service somehow.


We chanted and sang Maha Mantra. Put Krishna’s garland on him, sprinkled Ganga water and then put offered tulsi leaf on his tongue right after the soul left the body.


He donated many plants to the temple over the years. Took lots of Prasadam. Listened to his daughter sing kirtan. Solid, down to earth kind of guy. Pantheist.


After he passed a “spirtual advisor” came to talk to all of us. A Christian man but had so many questions about what we were chanting and the significance of the garland and the tulsi leaf. Very nice interfaith dialogue and sincerity. I was thinking…maybe he will become a devotee someday and he was probably thinking…(then I remembered your story, Maharaja)


•••••Hallelujah•••••

🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘

•••••Hare Krsna••••


your aspiring servants,

Nitisara das and Anadi


HpS/ASA - AgtSP!!!! I did not know him! I did not know he was close to death. We feel cheated. 🙂.

Seems he got excellent departure.

Did he leave his body, buddy, in Boise???

Please send a picture asap so we can chant a few rounds with our mind focused on him.

Reflections on Balabhadra's Prabhu letter

asa[e] iskcon


Hare Krishna, Dear Gurudeva,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Dear Gurudeva,

Thank you so much for your association! The mere possibility of our Sunday sanga makes ISKCON worthwhile, even if everything else in the organization were wrong. Just this possibility alone makes it worth being in ISKCON.

Regarding the Panihati festival we discussed one Sunday, we saw one of the principles taught in this pastime: we can do nothing without the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Raghunath Das Goswami could not get rid of his family ties without the mercy of Lord Chaitanya. This brings to mind, and we wanted to take the opportunity to comment on the class, and also on the letter from Balabhadra Prabhu in Boise, Idaho, who was upset with his congregation and wanted to move somewhere else. https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/15617/


We don't know the details, but in a sense, it might be okay for him to go to another congregation, although we would like to share a bit of our personal experience, because we have also had the same feelings.


We remember when you also expressed your feelings about your congregation. We recall you saying that you disagreed with the politics of the temples and didn't want to get involved, and that you were determined to sleep on a park bench and freeze to death chanting Hare Krishna. Then your invitation to go to Peru arrived, and there your perspective changed.


HpS - It was not exactly the Congregation. They were a little irrelevant to the issue. It was the administrators who demanded that if we were going to domicile under their Temple roof that then we should use our preaching position to support their political agendas. Oooof! Other Sannyasis in ISKCON report the same pressure. Think Sannyasis in any religion will report the same thing. It is natural.

The other side is that Sannyasis should!! cooperate with the administration. Respect there role. Several times with Srngi and Parasurama it is pointed out that in certain aspects killing the king is worse than killing a Brahmana.

When we got the invitation from Peru it did not change our attitude, it just allowed us to go on in ISKCON institution, because we encountered a President who didn't want political subservience from us.

Thank you.


Our realization is that when we felt frustrated with the congregation, it was due to one of two reasons: the first, due to "overdelivery," meaning, overexerting ourself. When you do more than you can, you expect more than you should. If we make an artificial renunciation and push ourselves more than we are able, naturally, our expectation is greater.


HpS/ASA - NoI 2 ? Niyama agraha.


The other factor is that we want to control things somehow. Sometimes we believe we know or understand what is best for the congregation, to be the "best friend."


However, sometimes, by the mercy of Krishna and even Prabhupada, everything is under the supervision of the internal potency. The analogy you give, that Maya is like swimming in the ocean, is very clear. Sometimes the waves knock us down and carry us away, and sometimes they bring us closer to the shore. We have noticed the same in our own spiritual life. Sometimes we swim very hard, but then we rest and realize that only the Lord's mercy can help us. Then, one stops swimming, lets go, but then the waves of Maya start dragging us away again. It's a balance between controlling and exerting ourselves, and then allowing Krishna's mercy to act.

When one finds this point of balance—which we could also call humility—we understand our position, what our contribution is, what the devotees need, and how we can best serve the mission. When the congregation gives us something back that is uncomfortable, the response must be to look inward and see if we are not incurring these faults: doing more than we can (with an incorrect expectation) or controlling too much.


HpS - Same in the marriage and family community, no?


We have noticed that when devotees leave due to this pattern, their Krishna consciousness does not improve. We cannot kill our soul. Bhagavad Gita 5.15 is very clear in this regard. (And the Supreme Lord does not assume responsibility for anyone's sinful or pious activities. However, the embodied beings are bewildered because of the ignorance covering their true knowledge). We believe that ISKCON is one of the best hospitals for the soul, to get rid of our material consciousness and enter into our spiritual consciousness.

We felt like we were in a tsunami, wallowing in suffering, until we met Srila Prabhupada. The synthesis of his message is: chant Hare Krishna as much as you can, never stop chanting. That is like a boat with oars that will take you in the right direction.

Our recommendation, both for ourself and for the devotee in Idaho, is that when we feel hostility from our congregation, we can withdraw, dance, share a kirtan and prasadam with the devotees. In that way, it is very easy to enter into the internal potency. Afterwards, we can simply withdraw and do our personal service at home, relating to the congregation in that way.

This is better than wanting to cut ties with the congregation, because this is the world of duality: the congregation is not all good or all bad, it's a mix of both. We have to learn to take the good and tolerate the bad for our own purification. And if we purify ourselves, the congregation will too.


Gurudev, these are our reflections. I would like to hear your comment and your opinion on the matter. Do you think they are correct, or are they just our own speculations?

Your foolish servant,

Nikunja Bihari das.


HpS - Seems like 90% what we would say, and I think 90% of what Bala bhadra Das would agree, and I think that you me and he all kind of smile and say that it is easier to understand the basic philosophy than to apply it sometimes. 😃

Also, of course, there are details. You know that First Aid is great, but being trained as a full Medical Doctor allows you to relate to so many strange combinations of the diseases.

Thank you!

More of this later!!!!!




Hare Krishna, Amado Gurudeva,

Por favor, acepte nuestras humildes reverencias.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Querido Gurudeva,

Muchas Gracias por su Asociación!! El solo hecho de tener la posibilidad de este sanga los domingos ya hace que ISKCON valga la pena, aun si todo lo demás en la organización estuviera mal. Solo con esta posibilidad, vale la pena estar en ISKCON.

En referencia al festival de Panihati que discutimos un domingo, vimos uno de los principios que se enseñan en este pasatiempo: no podemos hacer nada sin la misericordia de la suprema personalidad de la divinidad. Ragunath Das Goswami no pudo deshacerse de sus lazos familiares sin la misericordia del Señor Chaitanya. Esto me trae a la mente y quería aprovechar a comentar sobre la clase, y también sobre la carta de Balabhadra Prabhu en Boise, Idaho, que estaba enojado con su congregación y quería irse a otro lugar. https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/15617/

No conozco los detalles, pero en un sentido, puede que esté bien que se vaya a otra congregación, aunque me gustaría compartir un poco mi experiencia personal, porque yo también he tenido los mismos sentimientos.

Recordé cuando usted también manifestó su sentir respecto a su congregación. Recuerdo que usted decía que no estaba de acuerdo con la política de los templos y no quería comprometerse, y que estaba decidido a dormir en el banco de una plaza y morir congelado cantando Hare Krishna. Luego llegó su invitación para ir a Perú, y ahí su perspectiva cambió.

Mi realización es que cuando me sentí frustrado con la congregación, se debió a una de estas dos razones: la primera, por un "overdelivery", es decir, por esforzarme de más. Cuando uno hace más de lo que puede, espera más de lo que debe. Si hacemos una renuncia artificial y nos esforzamos más de lo que podemos, naturalmente, nuestra expectativa es mayor. El otro factor es que queremos controlar de alguna manera. A veces creemos que sabemos o entendemos qué es lo mejor para la congregación. Ser el “mejor amigo”.

Sin embargo, a veces, por la misericordia de Krishna e incluso de Prabhupada, todo está bajo la supervisión de la potencia interna. La analogía que usted da, de que Maya es como estar nadando en el océano, es muy clara. A veces las olas nos tumban, nos llevan, y a veces nos acercan más a la orilla. He notado lo mismo en mi propia vida espiritual. A veces nado muy fuerte, pero luego descanso y me doy cuenta de que solo la misericordia del Señor puede ayudarme. Entonces, uno deja de nadar, se suelta, pero luego las olas de Maya lo empiezan a arrastrar de nuevo. Es un balance entre controlarnos y esforzarnos, y después permitir que la misericordia de Krishna actúe.

Cuando uno encuentra este punto de equilibrio —que también podríamos llamar humildad—, entiende su posición, cuál es su aporte, qué necesitan los devotos y cómo puede servir mejor a la misión. Cuando la congregación me devuelve algo que es incómodo, la respuesta es mirar hacia adentro y observar si yo no estoy incurriendo en estas faltas: hacer más de lo que puedo (con una expectativa incorrecta) o controlar demasiado.

He notado que cuando los devotos se alejan por este patrón, su conciencia de Krishna no mejora. No podemos matar nuestra alma. El Bhagavad Gita 5.15 es muy claro en este sentido. ( Y el Señor Supremo tampoco asume la responsabilidad de las actividades pecaminosas o piadosas de nadie. Sin embargo, los seres encarnados están confundidos a causa de la ignorancia que cubre su verdadero conocimiento). Creo que ISKCON es uno de los mejores hospitales para el alma, para deshacernos de nuestra conciencia material y entrar en nuestra conciencia espiritual.

Yo me sentía en un tsunami, revolcándome en el sufrimiento, hasta que conocí a Srila Prabhupada. La síntesis de su mensaje es: canta Hare Krishna todo el tiempo que puedas, nunca dejes de cantar. Eso es como un bote con remos que te llevará en la dirección correcta.

Mi recomendación, tanto para mí como para el devoto de Idaho, es que cuando sintamos hostilidad por parte de nuestra congregación, podemos retirarnos, bailar, compartir un kirtan y prasadam con los devotos. De esa manera, es muy fácil entrar en la potencia interna. Después, simplemente podemos retirarnos y hacer nuestro servicio personal en casa, relacionándonos con la congregación de esa manera.

Esto es mejor que querer cortar con la congregación, porque este es el mundo de la dualidad: la congregación no es toda buena ni toda mala, es una mezcla de las dos. Tenemos que aprender a tomar lo bueno y tolerar lo malo para nuestra propia purificación. Y si nosotros nos purificamos, la congregación también lo hará.

Gurudev, estas son mis reflexiones. Me gustaría escuchar su comentario y su opinión al respecto. ¿Le parecen correctas o son solo especulaciones mías?

Su tonto sirviente,

Nikunja Bihari das.