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Jay Gurumaharaja, we have already booked a house 20 mins away. With 3 bedrooms and full kitchen we can organize a small program there also , we may cook some pizza for you as well as anything else, we were wishing to be calm and close to you mainly, so I think it worked out perfect. Thank you
HpS/ASA
Very nice. Srila Prabhupada mercy.
What is the location?
How do you find Krsna Consciousness?
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asa[e] - ISKCON; Stay away! ISKCON Will Break Your Heart
WhatsApp from Carudesna Das (Name Changed to Protect the Innocent):
Hare Krishna, Maharaja, please kindly accept my most humble obeisances; all glories to Srila Prabhupada. I hope that all is going well for you in your devotional service. 🙏
I feel very embarrassed and afraid to share with you the following information. There was some kind of discussion that took place with the GBC and the leaders of this community. As a result of that discussion, I was so hurt by what our GBC shared with me that I have decided to stay away from the temple indefinitely.
I only know what the GBC shared with me in our drive back to the airport and nothing more. I don't wish to burden you with my grief, but because you have always been so kind and merciful to me in the past, I have this great responsibility to let you know well in advance what has transpired and why I will be absent during your visit.
Our GBC and I are good friends. I hold no blame, no ill thoughts or feelings towards him for anything. By Krishna's grace I have been spared such foolish tendencies.🙏🏻
He actually gave a genuinely warm and compassionate hug when I dropped him off at the airport. So, I feel very confident of his support. 🙏🏻
Please forgive me for my offenses. You are still a siksha guru in my life. 🙏🏻😞🙏🏻
HpS/ASA - AgtSP! AgtSP's ISKCON. We have discussed so many times that there are three ISKCON"s. The institution. The circle of friends and finally our individual, directly experienced relationship with Srila Prabhupada FAOI.
Jaya.
I have hellish, HELLISH, H-E-L-L-I-S-H experiences in ISKCON, usually in management relations eg. Temple Presidents, GBC. B. S. Damodara Swami expressed the same to me. Three other GBCs I know express the hell of being involved with the situation.
Even today, I wrote we write notes in our Diary of how to deal with these things:
Devotees in the institution who are causing intense pain to others may be doing it because of the hell they personally, confidentially, are experiencing. They torment others, even to such a degree that they hope others will react with physical violence and kill them. (Direct admission of the tormenters revealed to us).
O.K, we have to avoid, mentally, socially, physically this problem and keep ourselves in a situation where we can give as much help to them as possible.
Of course, this may be Hanuman "helping" the Raksasa army that Ravana sent to the Asokavan when he was talking to Sita. He snuffed them all. (To help them 👍) but he left Ravana for Rama to chastise!
In general, in our association with your self, we never see that you act in such a way as to cause anything other than a desire for your association! We want it!
Maybe... some misunderstanding??
Maybe GBC miscommunicated something??? Possible??? Go to the source and ask them politely if this is true.
asa[e] - yoga ladder; mangala-arati attendance
Hare Krsna Gurudev
AGTSP, PAMHO
this is regarding integration of many verses like
https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/9/22/ ananyāś cintayanto
https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/8/7/ tasmāt sarveṣu
bg 12.8-12.12
now one verse is focusing on internal contemplation, and another verse is focusing on simultenous action of external activities and internal contemplation.
i know you have many times told us 16-4-4, FMP, FEP. i know these external activities are good starting point to develop internal contemplation [cintan for Krsna].
we have seen in ourself that, if we commit to these activities, we develop an obsession for these activities [and justify ourself by saying --only excuse to miss Mangal Arti is "inability to crawl"].
in that obsession, any one who opposes us (for whatever reason ) faces our wrath. 😠
We act like a neophyte, and ultimately its bad for the movement, we push people away from Krsna, ISKCON and devotees.
So at our stage should we attempt for verse 9.22 /8.7. I think this is stage BG 12.8 [https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/12/8/]
and we are being advised to follow bg 12.9 . But we are very Tamasic, then Rajasic and very small Sattva.
should we increase our hearing sb 1.2.17 to develop the sattva.
we are actually confused, at this stage
what should be done externally ?
simulateneously what should be thought internally?
harsh pradhan trying to be Hayagriva Avatar Das
HpS/ASA - AgtSP! Paoho.
First we will give a very, very, advanced perspective. We may not be able to act on this platform yet, but we might take some of the aspects even now and use it as a lighthouse for navigation from our current situation:
Then for neophytes we have NoI:
https://vedabase.io/en/library/noi/2/#bb5839
We should realize FM/ES, 16/4 etc. with enthusiasm.
We should cultivate knowledge of the purpose of these things and the best way to do them.
Don't try to smash obstacles presented by the demons and demonic, avoid the obstacles.
Also, in Noi:
Of course, this means avoiding the demonic half of our fellow ISKCON Madhyama adhikaris also.
CONCLUSION:
Go to Mangala arati but don't wake up the neighbors.
asa[e] - Yoga Ladder: detachment from subtle body
Hare Krsna Gurudeva
AGTSP, PAMHO,
During this surgery, and post experience, we are constantly able to remind ourself that we are not this gross body. Even we see our childhood photos, We are reminded ourself of verse- "dehino asmi yath dehe".
On the other hand when somebody say Harsh, you are fool/idiot/ wrong /impractical, our veins enlarge, immediately come to defend us. I don't know why so much attachment to subtle body.
How can we start getting detached to subtle body also ?
harsh trying to become hayagriva avatar das
HpS/ASA - Thank you. Sure everyone reading this has similar reactions.
There is jJyAna and vijJyana (Harvard Kyoto transliteration 😃 - https://www.learnsanskrit.cc/), theoretical and realized knowledge.
We know we are not the body, but not deeply.
We know how to drive a car from reading a book, but driving in the Grand Prix is different matter.
The whole SB, CC, NOD is aimed at answering your question in full.
What does the NoI say?
Verse 1 says that the mind is controlled by chanting 'HK/HR'. So when persona is attacked, call "HK/HR". Live in Vraja! In Vraja only Krsna and Balarama kill demons, no?
Everyone else chants, "HK/HR".
Of course, we may have to, will have to, chant like Draupadi when Dusasana was trying to desnude her in front of all the elite men and women of the world.
Cry 'HK/HR' like little children.
This may be a challenge if we are trying to keep our reputation as big, big intellectuals, but give our name and fame and gain into Krsna's hands.
NoI one also says that the subtle body is defeated by making plans.
This is second class method.
First class is chant 'Hare Krsna', but we may be on second class level.
Our ego is attacked when our plans, ambitions, are attacked.
So, just change you plan to avoid the attack, or include the attack in your plans.
"Better to have a wise man for an enemy, than a fool for a friends", Socrates, Canakhya Pandita.
Listen to the criticisms of wise enemies and use it to correct your plans/attitude.
O.K.?
So many citations in NoI. NoI 6 especially seems to have the ultimate answer.
Pamho
TLgSP
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Thank you so much 🙏.
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Hare Krishna. I pray every day that you are in good health.
First of all, sorry for the delay... My computer stopped working, so I had to get a new one.
TB 🐵 👍
I had my appointment last Tuesday and my doctor told me I doing well but I have to be aware.
My family is doing ok. My sister is working as an English teacher 3 times a week and as a dentist on weekends. My brother is planning to change job and move to Spain with all his family.
TB - Does sister work in a clinic or at home?
HpS - Is it an open ended service or fixed for a certain time, and then everyone stops and looks at the situation?
Ptrk - They asked me for a fixed service, but I asked them 3 years only and then we can evaluate.
TB - Very nice, for everyone!
HpS - ...You are Waldorf not Montessori, no?
Ptrk - Yes! Waldorf
TB - Posted this to our cell phone!
We thanks a lot all you support and patience.
Your aspirant servants
EDT (Patrak das & Antuanette)
TB/BW - How is Jivatma in baby body?