Letters to the editor

hare krsna maharaj, Pamho, AGTSP,
this in response to node 7581.
we did prelimnary search on net about name of people mentioned in the letter

u can log on to these websites to get information about people mentioned here
iaap http://iaap.org/resources/academic-resources/links-to-journals/
Dr. ASHOK BEDI wisconsin 414 219-9039.  http://pathtothesoul.com/ 
Dr. b j JAKALA  california (818) 861-9182 http://www.disorders.org/therapist/dr-robert-bj-jakala/  
 

Father Joe Pereira mumbai http://www.kripafoundation.org/Itinerary_Inside_page.html

Dr. kusum dhar prabhu in bangalore  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kusum-dhar-prabhu-462a6121
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-metroplus/Jung-and-the-soul-of-India/article15385492.ece  

dr. minkashi parekh Mobile No: 09825718698
https://www.facebook.com/Dept-of-Psychiatry-BJ-Medical-College-Civil-HospitalAhmedabadIndia-1542920996036828/ 

HpS - Thank you for all this work. Of course, we met after this and then talked with Father Periere, and it was a wonderful conversation. He expressed desire to work together and that he was in contact with Radhanatha Swami often. Build a network of sane people and then we can approach the Rasa lila.

How are you and the Video Game aficionado et al????????

We attached a photo of us with Father Pererie. Our plan is to contact people as soon as we have the formal contract with the Peruvian Library settled. You can also see that Solaris is in development and articles are accepted to 19th April!

Jaya, Radhe!

Esteemed Beverley Zabrieskii et al,

Here it is 2.54 AM in the small town of Thoubal in the remote Indian State of Manipur in the foothills of the Himalaya. It is cold. We are accommodated in a little cottage built for us, and are in the middle of this India tour.

It has been moving so fast that we only now got a chance to read the full newsletter you sent to us. We will contact the Jungian Group in Bombay and try to visit them while we are there.

The newsletter has given us such incredible resources for our work: Bridges between Jung and the traditional wealth of Indian psychology that we have discovered.

We have not heard from Prof. Shamdasani in response to our previous letter and certainly to not want to distract him from his premier work in publication.

BUT, we are sending a copy of this letter to him with a small note that on the 7th-9th of February we will be back in Kolkata and stationed with our very esteemed friend and colleague Professor Dr. Samaresh Bandyopadhyay, former professor and head of the Department of Ancient India History and Culture at the University of Calcutta.

He mentioned that if he had a little more information he might be able to research Jung's visit to and activities at the University of Calcutta.

If this is of any use to the Philemon Foundation then please do not hesitate to text or call us: +91 96 43 43 1330, or email us.

Already we have met with Dr. Kalyana Kumar, Director of the Indian fine arts academy, the Director of the Indian Council on Philosophical Research, presented at a symposium on the Bhagavata Purana sponsored by Madras University and Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies, lectured to 120-students and five professors at Asutosh College in Kolkata adn almost died of a heart attack etc. etc.
We see many avenues of approach open for our efforts.
Thank you so much.

At your service.
Hanumatpresaka Swami
(Prof. H. H. Robinson)

From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:19 PM
Subject: Nios and Jung in India
Greetings for the new year.
Forgive my delay in response. Christmas is a time for family chaos and energy.
I am glad to know you are returning to Peru. The Lima event was superb - I hope you are proud of what you produced.
I myself am going to lecture in Buenos Aires in mid July so it would not be possible for me to attend the 2017 Lima event.
I recently received a Jungian organization's - IAAP- newsletter about new Jung ams in India and have pasted it below in case it is of interest to you.
I send this quickly - but will write more soon.
Yours
Beverley

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from Ashok Bedi, CSJA
IAAP Liaison Person for India

In 2003, my colleague and mentor, Murray Stein, approached me at the
C.G. Jung Institute of Chicago to undertake the initiatives for developing
the IAAP groups in India. It was a daunting task to establish some ground
in a vast old culture of India with over 1.1 billion citizens and no Jungian
presence. Synchronistically, I was invited to lead the Annual Study
Groups to India under the auspices of the New York Foundation – “In the
Footsteps of Carl Jung in India” and “A Jungian Encounter with the Soul
of India” series to replicate fractals of Jung’s memorable trip to India in
1937-38, which is well recorded by Jung in his various publications. These
study groups as well as my efforts to establish Jungian presence in India is
in its 12th year. While these Annual India Study Groups are not a part of
the IAAP Developing Groups initiative, they have done much to introduce
the Global Jungian audience to the intricacies of the Indian Cultural
Psyche and its contributions to the Collective (www.pathtothesoul.com).
Taj Mahal
(Photo: N. Kiehl)
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After exploring possibilities in Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore and
Ahmedabad, I found some interest at my Alma Mater – the B.J. Medical
College at the Department of Psychiatry in Ahmedabad with the help of
my colleagues, Dr. Bipul Sinha and Dr. Ganpat Vankar, at the Department
of Psychiatry, with enthusiastic response from the Psychiatric Community.
It began as the India Jung Center at Ahmedabad, the place of Mahatma
Gandhi’s Magnum Opus in his unique struggle to confront the British
Colonial oppression using the timeless principles of Ahimsa (nonviolence)
and peaceful civil disobedience. Over the next several years, I was able to
secure the support from other colleagues and it blossomed into the
establishment of the Jung Center Bangalore under the leadership of
Kusum Dhar Prabhu, the Jung Center Ahmedabad presently under the
leadership of Dr. Minakshi Parikh (Chairperson – Dept. of Psychiatry at
the B.J. Medical College) and the Jung Center Mumbai under the
leadership of Rev. Fr. Joseph Pereira (Managing Director of the largest
NGO in India – Kripa Foundation, inspired by and in collaboration of
Mother Teresa).
The efforts at these three centers were supported by the generous
donations of Jungian Books by my colleagues at the C.G. Jung Institute of
Chicago. Dr. June Singer donated her large collection of personal Jungian
Library and we have the June Singer Library of Jungian Literature at the
Jung Center Ahmedabad. Many other peers at the Chicago Institute have
donated books including Dr. Robert Moore, Dr. Margaret Shanahon, Marti
Atkinson, Mary Dougherty to name a few. With these and other
donations, we now have a collection of Collected Works and other Jungian
literature at all three centers. These efforts were supplemented by visiting
volunteer Jungian Faculty from the global Jungian, Psychiatric and Mental
Health Community including Dr. Boris Matthews, Dr. Dinshah Gagrat,
and Dr. B.J. Jakala, Luke Waldo (Family Support Programs Manager at the
Children’s Hospital in Milwaukee) and Christian Gillard.
I have continued to visit India annually to teach and coordinate the
initiatives at these centers and have been supported generously by these
faculty members in their presentations in India. Other visiting analysts
and faculty members have supported the efforts in Bangalore. A few years
ago, the Bangalore group decided to become an independent group under
the leadership of Kusum Dhar Prabhu. They continue to do excellent work
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to train independent routers, public programs and continuing professional
activities at the Bangalore Center.
Since we only have one Jungian analyst in India at Bangalore, the
India initiative is supported by myself, the visiting faculty and the Dan
Lindley and Lucia Woods Lindley Distance Learning Center at the C.G.
Jung Institute of Chicago, made possible by a generous donation by Dan
Lindley and Lucia Woods Lindley. My gratitude to them for supporting
our efforts in India. We have offered numerous Webinars for the Mumbai
group and are planning a Basic Jung Series for the Jung Center
Ahmedabad. These are supported by my Jungian and Psychiatric peers in
the USA including Dr. Dinshah Gagrat- Chief of Adult Psychiatry and
Eating Disorders Programs at the Aurora Psychiatric Hospital & Dr. Lance
Longo, M.D. – Chief of Addiction Medicine at the Dewey Center in
Milwaukee. The DVDs of these offerings are available in the archives of
these centers for continuing education purposes.
The activities at the Jung Center Ahmedabad recently got a boost
from a synchronistic series of events. Dr. Minakshi Parikh is the new
chairperson of Psychiatry at the B.J. Medical College and her husband, Dr.
Nimesh Parikh, is the chairperson of the competing V.S. Medical College.
Both prestigious Medical Colleges are now collaborating in the Jungian
Studies. The bedroom and the boardroom are now in sync! Additionally,
during my last visit to India, my colleague, Dr. B.J. Jakala from Los Angles
and I did several presentations at the Mumbai and Ahmedabad Centers
including at the GIPS (Gujarat Institute of Psychiatry – the largest private
Psychiatric group in India) under the leadership of their Medical Director
Dr. Himanshu Desai. GIPS mental health professionals seemed keen to
engage the Jungian paradigm in their psychotherapy efforts.
The activities at the Jung Center Mumbai under the leadership of
Rev. Fr. Joe Pereira serves over 70 Kripa centers throughout India and
abroad providing addiction and mental health services to the community
and hence our Jungian efforts there have an exponential impact of all these
centers as all the staff have access to our Webinars and to the annual
presentations in Mumbai center and its affiliates
(www.kripafoundation.org). Fr. Joe is a close friend and collaborator of
the famous Yoga Late Guruji Shree B.K.S. Iyengar and all the Kripa centers
in India and abroad creatively blend the Eastern Contemplative practices
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with the Allopathic Medicine in their Kripa Model of treatment. Fr. Joe
and I are coauthoring a book on this paradigm: The Spiritual Paradox of
Addiction: the Faith Deficit Syndrome, which is in the prepublication stage.
For the first few years some of the efforts at the India Centers were
partly supported by the IAAP along with my personal funds. In 2007, I
was inspired and supported by my son, Siddhartha, and my wife, Usha, to
establish a Not for Profit Charitable Foundation – the USA India Jung
Foundation www.uijf.org. This Foundation has done some fundraising
and other activities to support our India efforts. Our Board Members
include Siddhartha and Usha Bedi, Dr. Dinshah Gagrat, Dr. Ajit Divgi.
Siddhartha Bedi, Usha and Ashok Bedi, Dr. Ajit Divgi, Dr. Dinshah
Gagrat, Dr. Shobha Gagrat and others have made generous donations to
the Foundation.
The India experience has been a paradoxical experience for me.
When, as Jungians, we present the tenets of Analytical Psychology to
Indians, they see it as a very dilute, westernized version of the ancient
Hindu concepts, the tales their grandmothers taught them as children. For
a long time, I struggled with how to sell snow to Alaskans! Then after
much soul searching, it clicked. While Indians have a lot of Archetypal
Gold in their cultural goldmines, they did not have the modern
methodology to mine their own treasures in a clinically usable form. The
paradigm and the clinical methodology of Analytical psychology offers
much to the Indian Psychiatric and Mental Health Community to make
their timeless wisdom available for the purposes of healing the suffering
and harvesting the fuller potential of its patients and culture. This
perspective has been the focus of our work in India.
While the Jung Centers in India have the basic Jung books, I still
need donations of additional copies of the Collected Works and Neo-
Jungian Books that are clinically relevant to amplify the collections so that
more than one student may borrow these. Kindly send your donations of
core Jungian Books only, directly to:
For the Jung Center Mumbai:
Kripa Foundation: Attention - Krishna Iyer; Ph: 022-26405411
81/A Chapel Road, Mt. Carmel Church, Behind Lilavati
hospital, Bandra (west), Mumbai – 400050, Maharashtra,
India.
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For Donations to the Jung Center, Ahmedabad:
Dr. Minakshi Parikh
Department of psychiatry, G3 Ward,
B J Medical College and Civil Hospital,
Asarwa, Ahmedabad -380016, Gujarat, India
The India Developing Groups initiative is an Alchemical Process
with its own rhythm. While maintaining a steady momentum of our
efforts in this vast, fast growing, ancient land, I stay open to the
synchronistic happenings to give us the tail winds of the gods. My
gratitude to the Jungian community and other peers, who have generously
donated their time, resources, expertise and feelings to support this effort.
Attached are some of the images of our India activities.
Ashok Bedi, CSJA
IAAP Liaison Person for India

Father Joe Pereira, Dr. B. J. Jakala and Ashok Bedi at the Jung Center, Mumbai
The Jung Centre Ahmedabad
Kusum Dhar Prabhu
The Jung Centre Bangalore

Sannyasi, Guru, GBC Sanga

Hare Krsna, Braja-bihari and Anuttama Das et al,

We are in Mexico for five packed days then off to India. We will be presenting at University of Madras, Kolkata, Bombay etc. etc.   We finish with the three days of SGGS in Mayapura. We gave some comments about the Sanga to your good selves but have not been able to follow up. We are planning on developing some thoughts in writing in association with other. This letter will hit our Blog for reactions and advice.

1. The highest truth is reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all.

2. The first year, we attended, and there was one day of break-out sessions where we non-GBC Guru/Sannyasis had a chance to exchange views without GBC devotees presence. I think it was Bhakti-rasamrta-sindu Maharaja who made the statement that in Bhuddhism that the Sangha (Administrative work) is meant to serve the Sanga (association). There was a very broad feeling that the non-administrative Sannyasis needed more time to talk about there individual experiences of the current and fututure GBC-Sannyasis relationship. I know I submitted a request that we have another break out session to do that, but it didn't happen.

3. Within the last two months one Grhastha guru and one Sannyasi both told me when I asked if they were attending the SGGS this year that it really seemed to be inclined toward the 'GBC pushing their agenda' and they weren't planning on going at that time. I was a little shocked to hear this comment, but analyzing why I didn't go last year etc. I realized that that was a part of the reason for myself also. Others included just schedule conflict.

4. Prahladananda Swami is our Minister of Sannyasa services. When I asked him if he was going to present at the Sanga he said, "No", but he hoped to see us there. Shouldn't he be offered an assignment for presenting???

5. I really feel that this movement is strong enough now to run a candidate for President of the United States. If we do then these Socio-political questions will become even more important.

6. These are my opinions, perspectives. One opinion that I hold very strongly is that my opinions are limited or incorrect often enough that I need feedback all the time. tyhank you.

Vrindavana Dhama Mahimamrta - Sataka One - Trans. Kusa Krata Das

45 O, look at Vrndavana, so beautiful with many blissful, splendid groves of kalpa-vrksa trees, with many parrots and other birds intoxicated by singing Vedic hymns glorifying Krsna, with many deers so pleasing to Krsna, with splendid transcendental lakes, ponds and streams, all filled with water sweet as nectar, and with mountains of valuable jewels.

46 Is this the wonder of the Supreme Personality of Godhead’s opulence? Is this the wonderful sweetness of the shoreless nectar ocean of transcendental bliss? Is this the seed of many splendid kalpa-vrksa forests? Is this Vrndavana, the glorious and wonderful transformation of pure love for Krsna?

47 Where do all people automatically and effortlessly obtain pure ecstatic love for Krsna? Where does the Supreme Personality of Godhead manifest His supremely wonderful pastime form? Where is the empire of the bliss of devotional service to Krsna’s lotus feet manifest? O brother, listen I will tell you a secret. All this is present here in Vrndavana.

Dear Guru Maharaja, please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

These days we are doing the renovation of the flat we live in. Specifically, the temple/living room and the hall. For that we have finances. The house is 45 years old and it needs fixing. There was mold on the walls. Air was going through the windows, which is nice in the summer but not in the winter. The restoration will include the windows, walls, floor, electric wiring. For furniture we do not have finances right now.

HpS - ASA -- Very nice! If you die soon it will mean good income for you descendents when you sell it also!

Doing all that work and living and working in the same place takes a lot of energy and good organization, cleaning, etc.

Reading Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakur's commentary on Bhagavad-gita.

ASA - Jaya!! Please share what you read... !

One point is that BG we have to interpret, only rightly so. For example, Krsna says to Arjuna”Fight”. This does not mean that I should go to war and kill people around. It means, do your duty, according to your nature, by following Krsna's plan (which is a good plan for everyone) and [hopefully] for His satisfaction.

I'm in the process of digesting our last exchange.

Next two weekends will spend with devotees doing bhajans.

Health challenge – for years dealing with lack of energy. Few months ago diagnosed with high lactose intolerance. Was doing Bioresonance therapy and it looks the intolerance is normalized. Still, have to take care of intake of milk products. Also, the sciatic pain and general back pain are there. When standing or walking 2 to 4 hours, the spine pain is so strong that I almost cannot think. Trying to do yoga asanas to mitigate, as it looks there are no other things that are there to rejuvenate the “dwindling machine”.

HpS - Do you have Iyengar Yoga studio where you live?

Catching up with your classes on e-sanga and Saturday StartMeetings.

Your servant Namacarya das

HpS - Thank you very, very much for you association.  We are planning on making a strong contribution to the Sannyasi Guru GBC Sanga in Mayapura the 10-13th of February. Is there a collection of instuctions (guess mostly letters) that Prabhupada gave on the topic, especially the instruction that the GBC position could be for life?

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada

Querido Gurudeva

Por favor acepte mis más humildes reverencias

HpS - Hare Krsna, Rodrigo Magno!

Espero que se encuentre muy bien. Acá bhakta Rodrigo de Santiago de Chile. Hace mucho mucho mucho tiempo que yo no escribo a usted, han pasado meses desde mi última carta.

HpS - Si..... .      .                .

Siendo bien honesto, yo no me encuentro muy bien. Desde septiembre hasta ahora me ha tocado vivir con mucha ansiedad, muchos problemas en casa, en mi vida. Muchos problemas.

Ahora me siento muy cansado y triste, con muy poca energía vital. Muy poca energía en mi corazón y mi cuerpo. Estoy pasando por una crisis en todos los aspectos de mi vida. Estoy cantando muy pocas rondas.

HpS - Espera que el momento de la muerte va a ser mejor, o ...  la misma, pero peor? !

Tuve una crisis nerviosa muy fuerte de la cual me estoy recuperando. Ahora en diciembre he tenido que ir 4 veces al médico. Nuestra depresión bipolar está controlada, no es una crisis bipolar, pero sí una crisis nerviosa.

En septiembre mi padre se operó de un ojo porque tenía problemas en su visión. Él tuvo que descansar un mes, pero la operación salió mal y esta semana su médico le dirá si es necesaria una nueva operación.

Entonces nosotros, mi madre, mi hermano y yo, tuvimos que trabajar mucho más tiempo en su antiguo almacén (Neighborhood store). En otra carta me gustaría hablar a usted sobre este negocio familiar.

Mi madre se está haciendo varios exámenes porque hay un problema en su cerebro. Muy pronto el doctor nos dirá si es necesario operar su cerebro. Mi madre es súper súper bipolar. Yo tengo una relación compleja, difícil. Es como “amor y odio”.

Mi madre está muriendo día a día, se está volviendo loca, demencia senil. Ella toma muchos medicamentos para la depresión bipolar. Ella es adicta al cigarrillo y a la coca cola. Todo, todo el día fuma cigarrillos y toma coca cola.

Cambiando de tema:

HpS - Por que!  Es bien interesante. Claro, loco, pero no aburrido. Puede escribir un biografia bueno.

Me gustaría contarle que ahora en noviembre estuvo de visita en Chile SG. Visuddha Sattva prabhu. Él es un gran erudito, un sabio y una persona muy muy muy especial. A nosotros (Dharma Comunicaciones) nos tocó organizar una conferencia.

Prabhu Visuddha-sattva es el traductor de la obra completa del poeta Rene Daumal. Rene Daumal es un poeta francés que vivió en la misma época que los surrealistas europeos (André Breton y amigos).

Nuestra amiga Marisol Vera de la Editorial Cuarto Propio se reunió con Prabhu Visuddha Sattva y a fines del 2017 la Editorial Cuarto Propio espera publicar en Chile las obras completas de Rene Daumal.

Yo he estado pensando mucho en Prabhu Raktak y su ejemplo, también pensando mucho en cómo dejó el cuerpo Prabhu Prahlad Nrisimha dasa y pensando también en Gunagrahi das (Swami).

En mi caso tengo tantos anarthas, tantas contaminanciones. Si yo sigo en Conciencia de Krishna es únicamente gracias a la misericordia de Usted.

Me hace mucha falta estar con usted.

Este año mi terapeuta, la doctora Sofía Vera Peruzzi, me dijo algo muy hermoso:

“Mi corazón y el tuyo nunca se despiden”.

Sofía NO  es mi psiquiatra, es mi terapeuta y una de las mujeres más maravillosas en mi vida. Yo hablo mucho a Sofía de usted.

Su inútil sirviente,

Bhakta Rodrigo

HpS - Hare Krsna.  Su carta es bien interesante.

1. Tenemos que acceptar que podemos morir en cual quiere momento.
O.K? [     ]

2. La energia de la alma, de Krsna, es eterno e ilimitable. Si, el quiere retrasarla del cuerpo y mente vamos a morir. Entonces - tenemos que cerciorarse (ascertain) cuanto energia tenemos. A veces es muy poco. Solamente mueve nuestros labios. O.K. cantando Hare Krsna y bailando como podemos.

Es gran regalo de Krsna. Apreciando nuestra fuente de energia subtil, transcendental y utilizando.

3. NO ESFORZANDO HACER COSAS AFUERA DE LA ENERGIA QUE KRSNA COMPARTA CON NOSOTROS.

Entonces, no hay verguenza. No hay estress. Dejando su cuerpo de esta manera puede ser feliz.

Si puede, escribir otro cartas. Puede guardar esta carta para un libro.

Conozco Visuddha-sattva Das para muchismos anos. Era siguiedor de B. S. Swami muy fuerte y hemos pasado bastante tiempo en relacion intima.

Hare Krsna Dear Maharaja,

PAMHO, All  Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

This month i have meditated in the different steps of devotees development. How we deal with different situations

For mercy of Krsna this year has been a hard battle to keep the enthusiasm and to help others in the same.

Maya is very expert warrior, she knows how camouflage himself very well, I am very amazed of her, and  I must recognize that she to do a good service.

Thanks to her I am understand that I do not have any options more that surrender to Krsna.

I read in SBG  1.15.27, Arjuna mentions that instructions of Krsna alleviate burning heart in all circumstances, kala and space (place). Then SP mentions that Krsna left BG for people who do not have time to review others books.

Then I think about the mission of books distribution, it is achieved they have the books But now it must be ensured they understand the message and this is part of educational job and this mission is so large and deep as to distribute books, in order to provide people that help others to understand this study is necessary more educational offers, at least there should be 3 educational groups.

What do you think?

Very thankfull for your advice.

Your spiritual niece

Ys isvari dd

HpS - ASA --- Thank you very much for your efforts. Unless we go on like you have be doing, it is going to get very dark and cold and Kali yuga will conquer everywhere.

We should have Bh S, Bh Vai etc. Srila Prabhupada designed these, and they should be practical training for Sankirtan, but... there are so many ways to do Sankirtan. Even a dog can take part in this movement and dance in ecstacy, no?  So we need dancing schools for dogs!

Cats!

Rats!

Bats!

We can teach Sankirtan the way we know it and can relate to it from our perspective. Develop YOUR Sankirtan then look for people who can take part of it for their benefit! !