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Camila, 19 años, Trabajo Social, Chile.
4 principles. 16 rounds. 

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I put what you wrote me, with a different color response.
Just as you do, I think it is easier to understand, read what we got, and what we put.

HPS: This seems to be a common test that Krsna gives people. Almost the same thing happened to me when I went to the Temple in San Francisco the first time. So I went back out to my car and took shelter of Srila Prabhupada's KRSNA book and practically the first thing I read was, "One should not be discouraged if there are obstacles in the path of devotional service in the beginning. One should go ahead with enthusiasm and everything will be successful."

That's was I thought when I've internalized the situation, Krsna is giving me some test to verify my sincerity...So, we're trying to be more enthusiastic about spiritual life, we want sooo bad be a better devotee of Krishna; the supreme gold. 
 

(Thank you for telling us what happened, inspires us even more. First of all Srila Prabhupada.)
 

HPS:
So I went back to the Temple and tried again and was great experience.
When the list of Candidates for being Aspirants and Initiation was made up there was not proper evaluation by the ISKCON standard. I can't remember the details but I think it was communicated to us that although you were doing very well, you had not been chanting sixteen rounds a day and following full program for six months.

Is that a fact?

I told you in the past letter, that the president of the temple Prabhu Amara Gouranga Das, told me that he with P.Omkesavaya Das recommended me to take Refugee, so, if is that true, they knew that I was chanting my 16 rounds, and following the 4 principles.
 In September, I spoke with P. Om kesavaya Das, and I told him, that sometimes was dificult to me chant 16 rounds, but I still chanting them, I did'nt finished the rounds at 7.00 am, sometimes I had to finished them like 19.00 pm. So, I can't understand what happened in there...

               HpS - ASA  - AGTSP  30 December. From what he said to me I think the communication got distorted that you weren't yet able to keep 16 rounds.  As far as I am concerned, if you have been chanting 16-nice rounds, and fillowing  four principles strictly (mangala arati, SB class, Sankirtana) for 6 months then you can be an Aspirant. Talk with the Om K Das y get it straight.  One year of following you can be initiated>

About the full program, I have to tell you, that almost everyday of University I slept like 3:00 am, because I have to do works with other people who do stuff for University at this time, so is very harsh for me wake up early, sleeping 1 or 4 hours. But, if I can sleep more, I try to wake up early in my home, or stay in the temple. Because I know that sadhana is such a very important think in ISKCON, to improve our spiritual life.
              ASA -  Hmmm..   This is the problem  Have to resolve this problem.  Srila Prabhupada con nosotros.   Krsna con las Gopas..  MUST have Mangala arati.

I've been like almost 3 years in the movement,  since like 8 months I regulary chant my rounds, with all the things in University(read, read, read, read and read. Works in group ..ufff) , they aren't so goood, but with the time we're learning how to chant properly, with attention, we aren't the best devotee, I have so much anarthas, but I want to try, I really want to be a better devotee for Krishna, for Lord Caitanya, for Srila Prabhupada, for you... I was doing the service of 12 Hour Kirtan, helping with the transmission and sound equipment, since six months.  

That is my answer to you, I really appreciate your interest Maharaj, please accept my humble humble humble obeisances at to your lotus "monkey" feet,. <img alt="" src="http://hps-d6.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/a38.gif" title="" />His holiness gives me soooo enthusiasm, please let me serve you in any kind of way.
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HARIBOL! THANKS YOU SO MUCH!

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HpS - O.K.  talk to the Om Das Personally and tell us what he says.   Work on your morning program.  Convince other University people to go to bed early and get up early.  They are scholars not drunkards!

Le escribo primero para contarle que haberlo tenido acá en Chile, y haber podido escuchar sus clases e instrucciones, fue para mi una gran fuente de inspiración y me permitió acercarme mucho más a las enseñanzas de nuestro querido Srila Prabhupada.

Y también le escribo porque, leyendo el libro "La luz del Bhagavata", me surgió una duda y necesitaba consultarle su opinión ¿Antes de venir al plano material estuvimos en contacto directo con Krsna? o nunca hemos tenido ningún contacto directo con Krsna anteriormente?

    HpS - ASA -  TlgaSP...  Pfanrh.   No hay tiempo como entendimos en esta nivel.  Antes, despues... todo es aqui, ya...   Hmmm.   Todos dicen es imposible entender la causa de nuestra caida sin advanzar mas a la plataforma donde pasa.   Pero como yo entiendo, si antes estuvimos en contacto con Krsna personalmente y utlizimos nuestra voluntud para relacionar con El por medio de Su energia exterior.  Siempre tenemos miedo.  Es cuasa de miedo. "Soy responsible para mis acctiones !!!".  Pero es hecho, entonces tenemos derecho sentir orgulloso de nuestra servicio.  No mal, pero bueno. I did something nice for Krsna.

También he estado leyendo algunos textos de Bhakti Tirtha Swami (Spiritual Warrior) en donde habla acerca de entidades que son capaces de entrar en los cuerpos de las personas, con el fin de poder disfrutar de las cosas materiales a través de los cuerpos de las personas que poseen. Mi pregunta es ¿Cómo puedo saber o identificar si una entidad ha entrado en el cuerpo de alguien? y ¿Existe alguna manera desde la perspectiva védica de expulsar esas entidades?

   HpS  -  COmo puede entender si hay otro persona en su casa?  Es la misma.  Puede ver que estas deseos no son de Vd.   Claro, tiene que ser alerta, no dormiendo en la casa ni tampoco la mente.  Y eso es la conciencia de Krsna!   Japa, arati, servicio, entonces es claro yo y otro.     Si, hay sistemas de exorcismo y unos devotos conocen, pero basicamente tomamos refugio de Krsna y bhakti yoga y estos mal espiritus se fue!

Espero se hayan entendido mis preguntas.

Además le cuento que he seguido cantando mis rondas firmemente, y me encargo todos los días de leer aunque sea un par de páginas de algún libro de Srila Prabhupada, tal y como usted me aconsejó.

Espero que se encuentre muy bien.

Hare Krsna!

Atte.

Pablo Gallardo

                 HpS -  Moooo!    Chas gracias para el foto.  Ya puedo recordar a Vd.   Vd es psicologo, no?

HARE KRISHNA , Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada y a usted Su santidad

Soy yemila de argentina , me dio refugio en chile , la ultima vez lo recuerda?

Bueno agradezco sus clases y caminatas , Me llego mucho la de las granjas ya que sinto un compromiso por esa predica que me parece fundamental. ..Como dijo que america latina era para eso,,(en otras palabras,no). Por eso me ayudo mucho este encuentro , ya que pude ver un poco  mas como  es la idea de que funcione, por eso pense que era bueno que estudie , para que haya intelectuales en ellas tambien y se abarquen mas aspectos..

Sueño con que america latina sea un gran abastecedor mundial  de prassadam jeje, sueño alto para el Gran Krishna ..Srila Prabhupada muestra eso no, en su biogafia..??..Bueno Gurudev , entonces para hacer bein las cosas , voy a empezar a estudiar cine , como le habia contado , que es algo que se puede utilizar bein para estas practicas. Y tambein pensaba hacer el bakty yastri con Patrak das por internet ,Usted que opina??

ASA -  Jaya!  TlgaSP!!   Pienso es bueno pero tiene que hacer con la asociacion de devotos locales. Y si hay un programa local es mejor participar en esta programa formalmente y asociacar con devotos como nosotros y Patrak Das inforlmalmente en sus estudios.

O es mejor que me vaya a algun templo a instruirme primero antes de empezar a estudiar ?

ASA - No se los detalles, posible uno o otro!   Canta Hare Krsna, pregunta de unos buenos devotos y toma un decision!

Tambein por favor gurudev si hay algun sistema planteado por iskom sobre las granjas me gustaria tomar mas informacion no solo para mi..hay entrenamientos practicos al respecto?

ASA - La unica que yo conozco es Mar de Plata y los devotos alla en Argentina!

Y Por favor si entendi algo mal digamelo, y si esto no es lo que debo hacer tambein ...no deseo mal interpretarlo.

Espero que este bein de salud Gurudev..Syamasundara!!!

ASA - Bhaktin Yamila Ki Jai!                  Mas noticias de sus investigaciones.      Cuales una numero de contacto?  La hija de nuestra amigo, Oscar Natars, GRAN cinematagrfo, es en Argentina, bueno si puede hablar de Vd. acerca de cine y todo!

PAMHO     AGTSP...     Dear GM, In Chapter 15 of NOD about Spontaneous Devotional Service, I am wondering if there is another synonym for 'attractive' because I am not clear about how envious and fearful beings can be considered attracted to their object of envy and fear. Is the message in these paragraphs that being envious or fearful can be considered spontaneous attraction, however, they cannot be considered devotion, bhakti?

  Jaya!  -  AGTSP   paoho... Why is this so small?   Robot!    Yes, we are envious of Krsna because He gets all the best food first erc.     So we are attracted in envy.  Duryodhana got all the Ksatriyas together in one place at one time to hurt the Pandavas, Krsna's devotees, Krsna. He was empowered to do this "krsna anu silanam", empowered service to Krsna. He got them all in one place at one time so Krsna could finish off His mission of incarnation quicky, but it wasn't "anukulyena", it was "pratikulyena". First means with a CONSCIOUS intention to please Krsna, the second means wih CONSCIOUS desire to hurt Krsna.  This is "anyabhilasita sunyayam.." NOD 1.1.11.
It's cited in NOI.

The essential verse of the BRS (NOD)

Danurdhara Swami's "Waves of Devotion" gives so much detail with grafics to help understand the NOD, Sceicne of Devotion.

So these are not types of raganuga bhakti?

    HpS - No, this is like Karma-yoga.  Linking your passion to Krsna.

"The gopīs may be considered to be examples of spontaneous love in sensual attraction. The gopīs are young girls, and Kṛṣṇa is a young boy. Superficially it seems that the gopīs are attracted to Kṛṣṇa on grounds of sex. Similarly, King Kaṁsa was attracted to Kṛṣṇa because of fearfulness. Kaṁsa was always fearful of Kṛṣṇa because it had been foretold that his sister's son, Kṛṣṇa, would kill him. Śiśupāla was also always envious of Kṛṣṇa. And the descendants of King Yadu, due to their family relationship with Kṛṣṇa, are always thinking of Him as one of their members. All of these different kinds of devotees have a spontaneous attraction for Kṛṣṇa, in different categories, and they achieve the same desired goal of life. The attraction of the gopīs for Kṛṣṇa and the affection of the members of the Yadu dynasty are both accepted as spontaneous, or rāgānugā. The attraction of Kaṁsa to Kṛṣṇa in fearfulness and the attraction of Śiśupāla in enviousness are not accepted as devotional service, however, because their attitudes are not favorable. Devotional service should be executed only in a favorable frame of mind." YHS tcsd

         HpS - See...  the Gopis and Yadus are distinguished.  Kubja is attracted to Krsna in conjugal love to enjoy with Krsna.  LIke somebody who wants to gratify their lust with Prasadam, but will only take Praletsadam. Prabhupada says that we have to be careful because Krsna associates with this Shakti only some times, but with the service attitude conjugal Sakti, Laksmi, all the time.
But someone like Kubja who is attracted to Krsna as the Supreme candy will advance if She doesn't commit offenses.

Take Prasadam for lust and eventually you will think about Krsna and want to take Prasadam like the Cowherd boys have lunch with Krsna!
 

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada

Todas las glorias a Sri Sri Gouranga y Nityananda

Todas las glorias a usted Gurudeva

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Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja !!!!! las rondas van bien , se me complica terminarlas  pero al final del dia termino con las 16 rondas y cada dia trato de seguir mas estrictamente los 4 principios, perdone mis  ofensas por favor. <img alt="" src="http://www.hps.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/02.gif" title="" />

Amado gurudeva  estos dias he estado orando a sri krsna para que esta humilde sirviente suya algun dia pueda complacerlo a usted, rogando para tener siempre apego a sus pies de loto y apego a sus instrucciones, mi unico deceo es complacerlo.<img alt="" src="http://www.hps.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/51.gif" title="" />

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su eterna sirviente apsara gopi devi dasi

              ASA - Jaya!            TlgaSP...    Si es un hecho...    Esforzamos con todo abilidad y tomamos refugio de Krsna para ser exitoso en nuestra esfuerza!     Mas importante que el contendio es el professor.   Busca buen profesors.