obey

12 years, 9 months ago by harsh_horse in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare krsna Oh Pravijakacharya.

deliverer of the fallen soul.
 

we aspired to get discplined by you, follow you, even though we had such desire we are not able to. our current sadhana is 16/3, once a week mangal arti/one chapter of SB a week. hence we are failing again and again to even become formal aspirant..

We found some thing of related to our condition in SB 1.5.24

Without being self-controlled, without being disciplined and without being fully obedient, no one can become successful in following the instructions of the spiritual master, and without doing so, no one is able to go back to Godhead.

 
To obey spiritual master we need three things [1] self control [2] discipline [3] obedience.. after introspection we understood we have none on practical level , though we have desire to have all ,but again and again we fail. We dont know how much we should depend on the cause less mercy of Guru Parampara.

but is there any way to achieve these three things esp when we are in dark well without any trainer/ authority ? is our understanding correct ?
we are sorry again that we wasted so much of your valuable time , took instruction even though we did not have the 3 mentioned qualities..
 
regards,
harsh
 
        HpS - ASA - We all have superficial and deep attachments. One is attached to sex, another power, another mental speculation, another meat-fish-eggs, another wine,another...   Just keep using your intelligence to expand whatever austerity you are doing... It's that simple - You are on a path where there is no loss or diminuition, but keep making progress in the areas where you are stronger and you will see the other areas diminish, diminish. Make conquering your vices a practical project eg. "I will not eat onion and garlic on Sunday!"

humility lessons

12 years, 9 months ago by harsh_horse in Other

hare krsna maharaj PAMHO, AGTSP,
the background of this letter comes from lessons of Martial book based on biblical teachings recommended by Mother Urmila, Man of Steel and Velvet.

there was lesson of humility- which meant to think ourself as we are..which matches with definition of Jayananda prabhu. We are asking you as we see a very down to earth person in you.. otherewise who will answer trash of letters by  caballo.

We have understood litlle bit effects of presence of humility and absence of humility, but in our present condition in Dark Well , we think first of all we need to understand how does humility applied in practical action

book says---The Savior set a perfect example of humilty. although he was chosen son of god, having no sin and was able to overcome all things. yet he lived among common people and dined with sinners. although his disciples worshipped him, he did not rise above them in attitude of superiority. he demonstrated his humility when he bowed before them and washed their feet.

assuming you know Savior, a Biblical character, how are above actions humility ? if humility means not to think one self low. then how can guru wash feet of disciples .. or sin free man can dine with sinner..

if our understanding is wrong can you, give some highlights/teachings over humility.

regards,
harsh...

            HpS - ASA -  AGTSP   paoh.  Little hard to cross reference from other traditions in detail. Even when we do Hamlet and Arjuna we don't go in great depth and even that takes lots of time and work.  The nectar is in serving Krsna and if we see ourselves as servants of everyone then we get more nectar because we get a chance to help them in their service!

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaj

12 years, 9 months ago by Gopal C Biswas in Other

Hare Krsna Respected Guru Maharaj,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.

              ASA -  Jaya.  4.17AM   running to airport.  On our clean but not yet lotus feet!                 
     All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    All glories to Guru parampara.
                   ASA - AGTSP   paoho.
    Guru Dev, I came back from Vrindhavan.It was nice.

    Visited different different placeses. Done Vrindhavan & Goverdhan Parikrama, attended lectures,
    attended Go-puja, Gopastami ceremony, associated lots of vaishanavas, talked with Vrajavasis,
    purchased some books - Padma Purana etc.

    Visited H H Bhakti Damodhar Maharaj's samadhi in Radha-Kundha. I stayed some time in Radha-
    Kundha.

    I was missing you in Vrindhavan. I had started alone for every thing in Vrindhavan but got
    association of different different Maharaja on the way. Like, I went alone to do Goverdhan
    Parikrama but i got association of H H Indradhumnya Swami Maharaj there, similarly more. but i
    missed you every where.

    I returned with lots of Sankalpa, nothing else.
                   ASA -  All the Ministers follow the King!   :O)
     When you will come back in India after Australia. What will be the dates! I have to book tickets to
     meet you & what will be your schedule then?   

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

               ASA - We are waiting like this week for devotees, Presidents, in Australia to fix the dates there.  Then we know when we will return!   :O)

                          So nice to hear about Vrndavana,      You are sooo lucky to live sooo   close.   O.K.   We write from Peru.  Next.   Was very nice here in Chile also!!

guidance and expectation

12 years, 9 months ago by harsh_horse in Other

Hare Krsna Maharaj, PAMHO, AGTSP

hope your preaching in Chile are going great guns.

          ASA -  AGTSP   4.08AM   Just leaving for airport to Lima!  Was SUPER.

Hope we can find some video/article of your sankirtana development in Chile.

This question again arises from BHVAI studies and your lecture in Mayapur.

We intially take instruction from Scriptures, then we at higher stages we take instruction from good people [the 6 brahmana concept], then we get guidance from super soul and then ultimately direct  bhagavan. the sequnece developes on our development of our chanting...vidya vadu jivanam... please correct if the sequence is improper.

             ASA -  Whoop!     From the beginning we can hear scriptures from the Brahmanas!    That is good start!

...you also said in kaliyuga VAD does not work, so scripture does not work directly therefore its better to contact good people and ask them what to do ? --

          ASA - This is Parasara dharma sastra.   VAD.   Bhakti scriptures work.   VAD works to some degree, more or less.    Parasara gives some injunctions but says too many situations in Kali yuga to cover all, so go to Guru and Vaisnava with the examples he gives and then make decisions!!

How do we judge good people. if scripture [esp VAD ]does not work, what to do we expect from people.  {Like in lecture in Sil Valley you yourself that Sannyas like Narada Muni is not possible in todays world.}

            ASA - Four principles and Japa vrata!  :O)

-- how much of concepts learned in Srila Prabhupada books should be applied directly and how do we come to know the heirarchy of concepts.. .. we know you told us without good morning program these questions are not fruitful.. but we think these principles support our morning program...

            ASA - The books themselves will tell us which principles are more important if we just keep on reading.   If you can keep a healthy morning program, Chanting and little Deity worship by Brahma  muhurta and then books when there is light , then all your day will be very bright!
 

we know you have talked about such topics in JnJ a lot.but we are not able to recollect all answers...

hare ram...
lving being living like tongue lives between sharp teeth

          HpS -  Jaya.  815AM.   ONe more letter..


 

DTC/PP - Tuesday 27

12 years, 9 months ago by hps in DTC

             AGTSP    (((paoho)))        How are you!     We are exhausted.  Hours on internet and 45-minutes intense discussions with Boise about Sankirtana and travel plans yesterday. Then the program at the Cultural Center of the Casa of Monedas. It is the Mint that dates back to the Colonial Era. The Center is multi-storied, underground with shops, theater and exhibitions spaces. It is world class and the sponsored the Bhagavata and Socrates program.

Arjuna, Rodrigo and everyone had all the LOB art on exhibition, a display of Prasadm that looked like th Hilton hotel of the Spiritual World.   Lalita and Juan did world class Sarod and Tabla music.  Then HpSwami was inspired by the gods and did a heavy one hour presentation on all the material we have from Lima, Valparaiso and Nashville - Carl Jung, Sophocles, Camus, Einstein.

The auditorium held 240 but there were about 250. There we Yogis, devotees in ties, invitation was required to enter, big journalists and scientists. The lecture was excellent, questions were excellent, we finally go home and into bed by 10:57!        Brother Ass was shaking.  So much psychological energy to deal with so many intense people.

Well, seems like is healthy fatigue and going a little lightly today we should be O.K.    Seems like this year is ending with a big fire growing and then we have to have the devotees take charge next year.

O.K.   Bing translator and we go to she Dadlani Prabhu's wife who is leaving body with cancer.

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Ooink!    Ooooinnk!

TlgaSP!    pfanrh..  Cómo estás! Estamos agotados. Horas en internet y 45 minutos intensos discusiones con Boise sobre viajes y Sankirtana planes ayer. Entonces el programa en el Centro Cultural de la Casa de Monedas, que se remonta a la época Colonial. El centro es  subterráneo con espacios tiendas, teatro y exposiciones. Es de clase mundial y ellos patrocinado por el programa Bhagavata y Sócrates.
Arjuna, Rodrigo y todos tenían todo el arte LOB en exposición, una muestra de Prasadm que parecía como el Hilton del mundo espiritual. Lalita y Juan hicieron música de Sarod y Tabla de clase mundial. Luego HpSwami fue inspirado por los dioses y se hizo una presentación de una hora basado en todo el material que tenemos desde Lima, Valparaíso y Nashville - Carl Jung, Sófocles, Camus, Einstein.
El Auditorio acomodo 240 pero hubo casi 250. Yoguis, devotos en corbatas, invitación había requerido para entrar, científicos y grandes periodistas. La Conferencia fue excelente, preguntas fueron excelentes, finalmente fuimos y en la cama por 10:57! Hermano burro temblaba. Tanta energía psicológica para tratar con tanta gente intensa.
Parece bien, como es la fatiga saludable y va un poco ligeramente hoy deberíamos estar bien, parece que este año termina con un gran fuego en crecimiento y, a continuación, tenemos que tener los devotos hacerse cargo el año próximo.
O.K. nos van a esposa de Dadlani Prabhu que está dejando el cuerpo con cáncer.

Y arregla todo para viaje a Lima manana!

   Vamanos!

Your Respnse to My Last Post dtd 10/23/2012

12 years, 9 months ago by saranga-das in Hot Topics

 HpS - ASA -- AGTSP paoho. It's interesting to hear your words. But we lack the general background to put too much action juice into them. If I told you that we have to meet with Laksmana agra Ja in about 45 minutes you wouldn't know if Laksmana was a man or a women, if it was in Lima or Chosika and what the topic was.
See what I mean? Your investigation is honestly very interesting and your reports of conversations with Sri-kara Das interesting! There are non-ISKCON Hindu panditas who also calculate the Adhik mas, no?
For example, we are now celebrating Vijaya-dasami, tommorrow. So I guess we could all agree that it is Dasami, but your conclusion is that this is a different month of the lunar calendar, no????

Dear Maharaj:

Pamho, AgtSP!

1. Sorry it has taken me so long to respond to your comments which I greatly appreciate. I have been adjusting to completing the year long medication regime which was so far successful but I won't know for sure until 12 months have past. Nonetheless, I was not up to par for awhile.

2. Regarding your comment about 10/24/2012 and celebrating Ramacandra Vijayotsava. As of 10/15/2012, the GBC calendar was back in sync with the proper stars and this holiday was correct.

3. Regarding your question about non-Iskcon Hindu pandits calculating Adhik mas. This is precisely the where the problem appears to lay. The common method is derived from Bhaskara II in the 12th century which uses the idea of lunar months and solar transits.

          HpS -  AGTSP     Hope your drugs help your service!   What is a Solar Transit?

This method uses the tropical signs of the zodiac and does not address problems with proper alignment of the vedic lunar months with their respective nakshatras. This is my whole point.

               HpS - What is a tropical sign?    What are Nakshatras?

4. I realize that I need to develop this material into an easy to visualize series of pictures which I will soon do. Sorry, I understand this is a difficult subject for a non-astronomer/astrologer. Hope this does it for now.

Yhs, Saranga Thakura das

            HpS - Does what for us now?    Ha!     Ha!     Ha(re)!           It is just like talking French to a Chinaman for us common folk!!!      Honestly.    You have to define the terms assuming you are starting with people who have a simple newspaper level of astronomical understanding.   Did you know that a 12AU7 was a dual pentode vacum tube?               -{:O)           More News!!!