Free Will and Silchar (?)

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaj

Dandavat Pranam unto your lotus feet.

HpS - AGTSP!!   Our lettuce feet. We are still in the process of purification also.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada and Sri Gouranga Mahaprabhu.

Dear Guru Maharaj,

On behalf of my father your disciple Krsna Swaroop Das, I beg for apology for his not being able to communicate with you frequently through this blog as he is not comfortable in handling techy stuff. He remembers you and prays unto your lotus feet everyday.

HpS - We are so happy to hear about him and youer Ashrama and community. Maybe he could write a few words about his Sadhana and Sankirtan and you could pass them.

Guru Maharaj I pray and beg to seek some answer for a question which has been a topic of confusion. As it is well known to everyone that Krsna, the Supreme Lord is omniscient and we as tiny fragments of Him have a freewill; a minute independence to choose. So does Krsna know "EXACTLY" what our choice will be???(say for example what I am going to eat in the morning 10 years from now on Jan 1st,2027). To me, it feels that the way Krsna "knows" is that He doesnot necessarily know all the details but as He knows our nature so chipping in a way He can narrow down to the most likely choice. i.e He does not know in the way 2+2 gives 4. But some devotees they argue that Krsna knows EXACTLY (all details with no room for other possibilities) what my choice will be everytime. This idea of theirs seems to me that it makes us like robots with no freewill at all. I feel there should be some (at least a tiny little) uncertainty (probabilistic way) associated with God's way of knowing things as we are also individuals with a separate identity and a freedom to choose. Some devotees even argue that the answer to this question is subjective i.e the answer depends on the individual's level of understanding. To me it seems like an excuse to avoid being caught wrong.

Please be merciful to me to explain and clarify this subject matter and let me know if I am wrong and kindly correct me. 

Dandavat pranam unto your lotus feet.

Hope it meets you in good health.

Expecting your merciful association.

Your fallen servant

Bishal

HpS - ASA -- Hare Krsna!   Very ancient, very contemporary and very important question. After our summary of our thoughts there is a list of references. I think you can find them all at www.jayarama.us/archives/abc-ndx.docx. We will post this answer in the Archives in our asa-encyclopdeia.

The soul is sat-cit-ananda, so it has free-will. It can do fun, interesting, things that even Krsna doesn't expect. The Gopis are full of unpredictable, intense, emotional states that even they can't predict, nor Krsna, but happy surprises.

Krsna, Krsna's Devotee and Devotional Service (Purnamasi Devi?) all come together and dance and no one can quite figure out who is in control.

We are growing. We can grow faster or slower. That is our choice. Krsna, us, no one knows our potential.

In the material world in the mode of ignorance we are forced to act. Our actions are predictable. Of course, one might be in the mode of goodness in his senses and mind and be in the mode of ignorance in his intellignce, heart, like a Buddhist, Mayavadi monk who is clean, honest, generous, but at heart is fixed in the conception that he will become the supreme, original, transcendental being, God. This is really stupid.

In the mode of passion there are some choices but the impulse act in a certain way is very strong.

In the mode of goodness we can actually make choices. Of course, they are being given by Mayadevi under the order of Krsna, so they may be material options, smoke the cigarette, don't smoke it. Then we set in motion ignorant, passionate or good reactions.

Maharaja Nrga, 10th canto, Krsna book, did lots of materially pious activities and he surmises that that led him to transcendental thought. Why not?  God creates this world so that by dealing with matter, plastic dolls, correctly we can come to deal with real babies.

Of course, Krsna has His free-will also. If we act submissively, friendly, under the modes of nature then He can give us transcendental choices or not.

O.K?

As far a the concepts of "chance, random events" occur in science, we find that the concepts are not clear. We heard that Bertram Russell, the Nobel Laureate, said that the concept of Chance is the most important concept in the 20th Century, because no one has he slightest idea what it means.
What is the etymology of the word?
A chance event is one whose cause can Absolutely not be Known, no?   Does such an event exist?   We have to have Blind Faith (see purport to BG 4.34) in this Axiom, Postulate.

If we accept this Godly entity, Chance, then the result is a philosophy of "neti-neti", no Not this, not this.  What is the Absolute Truth? It is not this, not this, not this; Absoute Ignorace, a Saiva, Nihilist or Mayavadi conclusion.

O.K?    Big topic.

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www.jayarama.us/archives/abc-ndx.docx
Free-will:
   allows chance to understand one’s relationship with God, SB 4.25.26 p
   allows one to change guna and karma in present life, SB 5.1.14 p
   in human life provides opportunity to get out of repeated birth and death, SB 1.16.9 p
   in material existence, SB 2.9.2
   of liberated souls, SB 1.6.37
   So even in the material nature there is a chance of an independent choice by the living entity, and according to his choice the material energy offers him different varieties of material bodies, SB 2.9.2,
   “The living entities are given freedom to make their choice…”, SB 2.7.49

Got TLC in Spanish and brief news

Hare Krishna Dear Guru Maharaja,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I received file of TLC in Spanish from BBT.  Once it will be ready imported I will put in online and let you know.

Still working on new version of vedabase.com, currently finishing importing of all SP letters. And today preparing slideshow presentation for one devotee who will use it on following Sunday feast program in Turkey.

Also today we will have meeting with manager of BBT Turkey who seems to be enthusiast about having Turkish books available on vedabase.com.

New version for public will launch on day of Guru (Vyasa) Purnima / Srila Sanatana Gosvami (8th July 2017).

HpS - ASA -- Incredible!!!   Is there a good 'Hello' page for people on different levels who may know nothing about Srila Prabhupada's books and a way to buy them?

[Btw, it will be birthday of vedabase.com as it was also launch on Guru/Vyasapurnima.]

Your servant Prahlad Nrsimha das

ASA - Happy birthday Vedabase.com,    Happy birthday Veabase.com, Happy birthday Veabase.com, Happy birthday to you! !!!   !      How many candles will there be on the cake. We can have a cyber-cake competition. Cyber gifts.

[One question [little confidential [Is vedabase.com a Ghrhasta, Sannyasi, B'cari or Vanaprastha?   Is it s B'cari or a B'carini. Should we offer Saris or Dhoti's for it's birthday.  Hmmmm.]]

Dandavats!!     Any suggestions for our travel in India?????

What do you think of the Vanipedia?

[URGENT]? - Nanuk is spam bot, may I block him?

8 years ago by pnd in Hot Topics

Hare Krishna Dear Guru Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

After reading few letter from Nanuk, I have to say it seems like text generated by spam bots.

Those bots download all text from website, analyse what words or connection of words are used mosts (PAMHO, Maharaja, Hare Krishna, ....), then generate article from Wikipedia or other sites on what he things will be relevant to this page and add most used words from this site (PAMHO, ...).

May I block Nanuk user?  There is possible danger that he will insert some link to virus soon or later.

Your servant Prahlad Nrsimha das

HpS - AGTSP paoho... What about asking him a questions that a Spam-bot could not answer?   This is exciting, like Terminator Seven our something.

Are you a Spambot Nanuk?

Prahlada Nrsmha Das, do you have any other tests?  I guess he could have himself sniffed by dogs?

In any case, you are the boss, if there is danger to the Blog then we all respect your decisions!!

From Jambavati dd urgent

HpS - ASA - Hare Krsna!!!    AGTSP paoho.   I thought we had already answered this nice letter.  Here we go again.

NitayGoura Premanande, querido y siempre recordado Guru Maharaja,

por favor acepte mis humildes reverencias!

todas las glorias a Patita Pavana "Srila Prabhupada"

                                                   estos últimos meses, se presentaron algunas complicaciones tanto en la salud como en la vivienda, desalojaron la casa donde vivíamos un grupo de devotos, estuve buscando un lugar para rentar sin éxito , decidí encargar mis cosas con unas amigas y dedicarme al Sankirtan viajero (mucha austeridad para un cuerpo enfermo).......pero, siempre los devotos misericordiosos me reciben contentos en sus casas.... 

                                                    La semana pasada en la ciudad de Uruapan recibimos la Santa Asociacion de S,S. Bhakti Sundara Maharaja,....M, Jagannatha Lila a Donado una casa  en esa ciudad para que sea un Centro de Predica  y Maharaja gustoso dio una clase de inauguración.....también se organizó una conferencia en la Casa de la cultura en el centro de la ciudad con muchos asistentes allí Maharaja dio una Conferencia sobre " La Ciencia del Alma", yo instale una mesa con libros y los discipulados de maharaja distribuyeron prasada, fue todo un éxito.

                                                   A comienzos de año invite a varias devotas externas al programa " Las osas también pueden bailar" a lo que aceptaron con mucho entusiasmo, el programa consiste que el lapso de dos meses se mantengan haciendo sadhana una vez a la semana en sus casa o en el templo y que distribuyan un libro de Prabhupada al día o 7 a la semana, las devotas que terminen el programa con éxito, recibirán los regalos que usted bondadosamente me dejo. de las 7 madres que entusiastamente aceptaron, ninguna de ellas lo concluyo, me dijeron que se les presentaron muchos inconvenientes pero que van a tratar de reanudarlo. 

                                                    Ahora me encuentro en la Cd. de Morelia en casa de madre Araceli y su esposo, ellos también muy entusiastas dicen que lo van hacer....... ella es catedrática e La Universidad Michoacana y su esposo es asesor de un partido político, la madre ayer vino muy entusiasta y me dijo que había distribuido 4 libros a sus alumnos, y su esposo distribuyo dos libros, este sábado les daré una pequeña orientación de como hacer un sadhana y también les orientare para que instalen un altarcito en su casa, tengo la corazonada de que ellos si van a cumplir con el reto de " Las osas también pueden bailar".

                                                    A mi padre también se le presentaron varias complicaciones tanto en su salud como en su vivienda, pero siempre orando a krishna para que lo cuide y lo proteja..... mi padre dentro de todas las pruebas que el esta pasando, no lo olvida  y siempre me pregunta por usted y me dice, que cuando usted valla a Perú el quiere ser el primero en ir a recibirlo, siempre tiene la foto que usted le regalo con él y también su Bhagavad Gita.

                                                    en estos próximos meses estaré en el norte del país en la CD. de Monterrey y otras ciudades mas en Sankirtan, para reunir el Laxmi para comprar el boleto para ir a Lima.

                                                    Muchas gracias querido Gurudev, por que por sus oraciones Krishna no me abandona y siempre me encuentro protegida bajo la asociación de los devotos, eternamente agradecida a su inmensa compasión de ocuparme en servicio.                                                                                                              Radhe, Radhe, Radhe.........

Su inútil y torpe sirvienta  

M. Jambavati d.d.

HpS - ASA -- Hare Krsna!   Mataji. Did you see the photos of Vrnda-kunda? We will try to attach them here.
Thank you so much for the news.   There are so many things happening that the only way to keep our position in the movement is to chant our rounds well and follow four principles strictly.  .  .  Sankirtan!

Will we see you in the 21st?  We will be in Mexico city for about six hours.  Then we go to Peru.  You will go on the same flight?

Always work to make book distributors rather than to just distribute books, no?

Hare Krsna.
Be as kind as you can to us and send more news like this. It gives us strength.
Can your father get a room in Callao near Abhirama Das?

Urgente _ Nuevo NIMSAR.

HK PAOHO

Dear guru Maharaja, we look forward to your early arrival and more communication like Monday, to discuss issues of education, for work we would just be on another schedule, perhaps in the afternoon from 5 AM [PM?], or on Monday night , Or another day, maybe Saturday morning or any time ? So we could participate.

HpS - ASA -- Certainly, but you and CMDD have to work it out with Laksmana when is a good time. Mornings are the best. It was a very nice meeting for us.

Finally we have the complete equipment [team], these are very good and active devotees who wish to do service in this new NIMSAR, as branch of ASA, we send the proposals to all the authorities, following their instructions, we see a lot of enthusiasm on the part of the authorities.

We tried from the beginning to unify, to integrate in the proposal the previous members of NIMSAR, but there was no positive answer, except for Mother Isvari who mentioned that she would be a collaborator, this week we tried to include them after the meeting on Monday, as we see that her Proposal is similar, and we have not had an answer so far.

ASA - O.K. but The Supreme Absolute Indifferenciated Commando of ASA has not seen the proposals!  Should not make any formal presenations without posting them here first, no?

I am surprised that they mention me in their group, because they have not communicated with me at all, that generates ambiguity, should be consulted. Although I spoke with LAD this Sunday, he did not mention anything about it. With whom if we maintain communication is with mother Rohini (ex member of NIMSAR).

I was surprised to hear the name of ASA, you asked us requirements for NIMSAR to be part of ASA, and the proposal of the other group, uses its name, I do not understand, now I am confused?

ASA - Same as above. We have not had any Formal Proposals to be Branch of ASA in Peru, so no one should use ASA name formally. 'O'ink ~

Even so, we are still enthusiastic about the project, the pada yatra (I send you photos of deities this year will come out), cultivate friendship with a new team, with your guide, we are an instrument, you are the boss.

Please give us your blessings to serve with honesty, intelligence, with appropriate attitude, free of pride, petty interests and patience. If that is the plan of Krsna, if that is His will, we can continue to distribute happy books, we have no problems. And always continue to study, teaching BS, VB, learning.

I hope that Krsna will bring it soon and well.
His daughter who adores him:
Yugala Kishora Dasi

ASA - Hare Krsna!   Very nice.  Just working on details.   Very nice Mangala arati this morning at ASA - FMP.   You know word-by-word translations?  It is "sri vigraha ardhana nitya nana...".  "Ardhana is like "Aradhana which becomes "Radha", worship."

Thank you. Please send us formal petitions here.

HK PAOHO

Querido guru Maharaja, esperamos su pronta venida y más comunicación como la del lunes, para tratar temas de educación, por trabajo nos justaría que fuera en otro horario, tal vez en la tarde a partir de las 5 AM, o en la noche del lunes, u otro día, tal vez sábado en la mañana o cualquier hora?, así podríamos participar .

Finalmente tenemos el equipo completo, se trata de devotos muy buenos y activos que desean hacer servicio en este nuevo NIMSAR, como rama de ASA , enviamos las propuestas a todas las autoridades, siguiendo sus instrucciones, vemos mucho entusiasmo por parte de las autoridades.  

Intentamos desde el principio unificar, integrar en nuestra propuesta a los anteriores miembros de NIMSAR, pero no hubo una respuesta positiva, salvo de madre Isvari que menciono que estaría como colaboradora,  esta semana intentamos incluirlos después de la reunión del Lunes, pues vemos que su propuesta es similar,  y no hemos tenido una respuesta hasta el momento.

Me sorprende que me mencionen en su grupo, pues no se han comunicado conmigo en absoluto, eso genera ambigüedad, se debe consultar. A pesar que hablé con LAD este domingo, no mencionó nada al respecto. Con quien si mantenemos comunicación es con madre Rohini (ex miembro de  NIMSAR).

Me sorprendió escuchar el nombre de ASA, Ud. nos pidió unos requisitos para que NIMSAR fuera parte de ASA, y la propuesta del otro grupo, usa su nombre, no entiendo, ahora estoy confundida?. 

Aun así, continuamos entusiastas en el proyecto, el pada yatra (Le envio fotos de deidades que este año saldrán), cultivar amistad con nuevo equipo, con  su guía, somos un instrumento, Ud. es el jefe.

Por favor, denos sus bendiciones  para servir con honestidad, inteligencia, con la actitud apropiada, libres de orgullo, intereses mezquinos y paciencia. Si ese es el plan de Krsna, si esa es su voluntad, por último podemos seguir distribuyendo libros felices, no tenemos problemas. y siempre seguir estudiando, enseñando BS, VB, aprendiendo.

Espero que Krsna lo traiga pronto y con bien.

Su hija que lo adora:

Yugala Kishora Dasi

Vedic Cosmology

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To: Hanumat Preshaka Swami
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:32 AM
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Dear Hanumat Preshaka Swami

Please accept my humble obeisances All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!! 

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Hare Krsna, Prabhu,

AGTSP. Paoho.   Ekanatha gaura Das from Peru, no?  Who made this PPTX?    It is very concentrated. For whom is it meant?

To detailed for us to examine all the details.

We are always brought to the consideration that this is happening on different levels of consciousness. It was spoken at the end of Dvapara yuga. People and the universe were much finer then.

The yojana is a multiple of a finger width. Whose finger? What age?

For example, the earth is spinning on its axis at 1,000 miles per hour. Thus it covers 24,000 miles in 24-hours. It is like a top, but like a spinning top it also has a a precessional rotation with reference to the stars. This takes about 26,000 years.

Life of Brahma is 100 years x 360 days/year x 2000 divya-yugas/day x 4,320,000 earth-years/ divya-yuga = 31.104 x 10*12 earth-years.

Life of Brahma 31.104 x 10*12 earth-years / Life You-me 100 earth-years = 31.104 x 10*12 

If one recessional rotation takes 26 x 10*3 earth-years for us then that would be:

26 x 10*3 / 31.104 x 10*12 brahma years = .836 x 10*-9 brahma-years.

If a movie is changing frames at slower than 24-frames per second (critical flicker frequency) then we begin to see each frame. So if the recessional rotation of the earth's geo-magnetic field is spinning at such high velocity for Brahma loka, it would appear and act as a solid cone shaped mountain with its peak downward, no?

For Indra loka, Kuvera loka, there would be different relative "Critical Flicker Frequencies".

Do you see our perspective?

The analysis we see in the PPTX are all from the viewpoint of Bhu-mandalis like us, no?  We have other insane speculations based upon this different dimensional perspective that match up with the rings of oceans of different substances etc.

We can go to these different "Lokas", locus, locations, by pranyama etc.

Rasa-raja Das said that our cosmology was completely mental. Well, we graduate first place in psychology from the University of California in 1970 so that is our perspective.

For whom is the presentation intended?