Caturthi - Reading Update

4 years, 8 months ago by sugopiradha in Special Category B

Hare Krishna, guru maharaja. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.


Recently, I have been reading about Jung's student years. This section broadly sheds light on the "dreams" aspect in the title "memories, dreams, and reflections." Specifically, Jung discusses his first deep reflection on life after death when his father passed away. Following his father's death, Jung focuses on his quest to determine a profession for himself.


An important thread in the major life events that Jung discussed is his reliance on dreams. After his father's passing, Jung claimed that he saw his father in a few dreams. Within the dreams, Jung's father said that he would return home. As a result of the dream, Jung felt "ashamed" for occupying his father's room and for thinking that his father no longer existed. Yet another time, when in doubt about what he should make his career, Jung dreamed of investigating intriguing creatures and digging in the wild. Through such dreams, it became clear to Jung that he should study science.


Generally, I've seen that individuals take dreams to be some sort of imagination or fantasy. However, it remains interesting to see how Jung took his dreams so seriously, to the extent that he remembered them even in his old age. He believed that they had a direct bearing on his immediate reality in the world. Consequently, he allowed his life to be shaped by them.


When I was reading Jung's book, I was trying to recollect our KC perspective on dreams. I remembered how Srila Prabhupada explained that when one sees gold and mountains in real life, those two elements amalgamate and appear as imaginary golden mountains in dreams. I have also heard from you, guru maharaja, that Krishna, showing mercy to His devotees, helps them burn their Karma by experiencing bad dreams rather than painful situations in real life. Lastly, I also remembered how various devotees mention that dreams regarding Krishna and the spiritual master should not be understood as imaginary and should be considered real.


Thank you so much for patiently tolerating me, guru maharaja. I pray for your mercy and blessings.


your insignificant servant,


Sugopi Radha Devi dasi


HpS - Yes, it is in one purport that Srila Prabhupada comments that sometimes we have inauspicious dreams so that we can pass through certain animalistic, insect, desires without having to take another birth, also, that dreams of Krsna and the Spiritual Master at not ORDINARY.

Other dreams are like experiencing the gross world. Thoughts come according to the laws of psychic nature and cities, trees, parks according to the laws of gross nature.

How do we interpret gross nature.??? Hmmm?

So interpreting dreams may be subject to the same standard.

More!

Next year seminars at the Campus.


Caturthi - Reading Update

4 years, 8 months ago by sugopiradha in Special Category B

Hare Krishna, guru maharaja. Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.


I have continued my reading. I read about Jung's first few trips, his reactions to the so called freedom that awaits one as one grows older in terms of being able to consume intoxicants, associate with the opposite sex, etc. He also explains his struggle in deciding what his profession would be, since he had a deep interest in both the sciences and the humanities.


What interested me the most, however, was this statement of his: "[Plants] were living beings which had meaning only so long as they were growing and flowering - a hidden, secret meaning, one of God's thoughts. They were to be regarded with awe and contemplated with philosophical wonderment" (83). Here, I feel that knowledge of the Virat Rupa would be very beneficial for Jung to deepen his "wonderment," looking at Krishna's beautiful creation. I remembered how you often say, guru maharaja, that flowers are Krishna's smile, grass is Krishna's hair, etc.


This is what has stood out to me this time, guru maharaja. I will continue reading.


Your insignificant servant,

Sugopi Radha Devi dasi


HpS - Super. I hope Prof. Harsh can collect these in ASA[e]. Yes, we feel that possible Jung's Bhava was above virat rupa and below paramatma, maybe hiranya garbha. Very high! Hope always we find a Jungian who wants to learn SB, NOD....




Caturthi - Update on reading

4 years, 8 months ago by sugopiradha in Special Category B

Hare Krishna, respected Guru Maharaja!

Please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.


I am continuing my reading of Jung. Since I wrote to you last, the theme that struck me the most was Jung's reluctance and dislike of accepting religion blindly.

He was willing to think through the difficult questions of life and wanted to find religious solutions for them, but hardly anyone in his environment wanted to engage in a critical inquiry on religious matters, especially his fathe.

Though being a religious leader in their local church, due to having serious doubts himself, Jung's father did not wish to engage in deep religious discussions with Jung.

Instead, Jung's father preferred to take the route of "blind faith," to which Jung had a strong aversion (73).


HpS - Which Jung says later caused him to die an early death from emotional exhaustion, no?


When reading this, I was reminded of a quote by SP that you often cite, guru maharaja. In his purport to BG 4.34, SP says, "...blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned." Here, SP authorizes Jung's instinct not to take up faith blindly.

Ultimately, Jung's genuine (rather than absurd) theological questions and his striving to engage in religion with critical thought demonstrated to me his great qualification to be put in conversation with Srila Prabhupada, as you propose in several of your classes.


HpS - Through Prabhupada with Rupa Goswami and very especially with Srila Bh. Siddhanta. Jung was one year younger (Junger ??) than BhS!


Thank you, guru maharaja, for your constant mercy and guidance.


Your insignificant servant,

Sugopi Radha Devi dasi


HpS - ASA - Hope other can enter these discussions. Seems like part of our DTC - UT.