Amistad en conciencia de Krsna

asa[e] friensdship


Querido Gurumaharaja

Por favor acepte nuestras respetuosas reverencias.

¡Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!

Muchas gracias por su constante asociación a través de los diferentes espacios tecnológicos, también agradecerle por aceptar invitaciones como Mayapur tv español que nos permiten más oportunidades de clases con usted y muchas gracias por sus noticias en el twitter. 

Estamos agradecidos por su visita pasada a México, también reflexionando sobre algunos puntos para poder entenderlos.


Porsupuesto entusiastas por cantar nuestras rondas, observar las regulaciones prohibitivas e incrementar las positivas como el sravanan y kirtana, también tratamos de seguir algunos programas regulares online del templo.

Con mi esposo continuamos sirviendo a la Deidad en el templo, realmente es una gran fortuna mantener la mente, sentidos ocupados con las Deidades, al inicio mi esposo no tenía mucha habilidad estética pero posteriormente se esfuerza con delicadeza y paciencia al intentar peinar a Goura y Nitay. Sino tenemos hijos podemos volcar nuestros sentidos en la forma Supremamenre bella de una manera formal. 


Por otro lado, he estado reflexionando en algo que usted ha mencionado en algunas clases acerca de saber desarrollar amistad con las personas que tenemos problemas, incluso si tenemos diferencias administrativas pero que no debemos dejar que toque la amistad. ¿Cómo lograr esto ? Suena tan elegante y civilizado que nos gustaría alcanzarlo sin una postura diplomática disforzada.

Usualmente nuestros amigos son los que aprueban nuestros pensamientos y modo de trabajo, y sino piensas o actúas igual es su enemigo y trata de destruirle si es posible o intenta desacreditarlo, he podido ver grandes amigos y luego grandes enemigos tratando de destruirse y faltandose el respeto, el que humilla más es el mejor, esto es muy contrario a la conciencia de Krsna. 


Pienso que una palabra clave es el respeto, pero hoy en día se cuestiona mucho si tal devoto merece o no respeto, esto es interesante, con seguridad en las Escrituras podemos encontrar la respuesta.

Talves podría dar el ejemplo de una pareja de esposos, hay una línea tan delgada para perderse el respeto por cualquier situación, sin embargo, si se cultiva la apreciación como vaisnavas, como personas, con la educación que nos dieron nuestros padres y los consejos de Conciencia de Krsna, por lo menos podemos naufragar como enemigos respetuosos y honestos, pero como pasar a otro nivel de una amistad real en medio de las diferencias ? 


Muchas gracias por su gentil atención.

Por favor disculpe nuestras limitaciones.

Que el Señor Nrisimhadeva proteja su sankirtana y energía para el placer de Śrīla Prabhupāda.


Vuestra eterna aspirante a sirviente.

Asta Sakhi dd 


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Dear Gurumaharaja,

Please accept our respectful obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!


Thank you very much for your constant association through the different technological spaces, also thank you for accepting invitations such as Mayapur tv español that allow us more class opportunities with you and thank you very much for your news on twitter.


HpS/ASA - Ooof! We hope these are of some benefit. Yet all of us, you, me, everyone, in the ultimate issue, just have to speak on behalf of Guru and Krsna! If we can see them smiling and patting us on the head then it is wholly satisfying.

Of course, how does that pat come if not from the comments of God brothers, Godsisters...


We are grateful for your past visit to Mexico, also reflecting on some points in order to understand them.


Of course, enthusiastic about chanting our rounds, observing prohibitive regulations and increasing positive ones like sravanan and kirtana, we also try to follow some regular online temple programs.


With my husband we continue to serve the Deity in the temple, it is really a great fortune to keep the mind, senses occupied with the Deities, at the beginning my husband did not have much aesthetic ability bu]t later he strives with delicacy and patience when trying to comb Goura and Nitay. If we don't have children we can pour our senses into the supremely beautiful way in a formal way.


On the other hand, I have been reflecting on something that you have mentioned in some classes about knowing how to develop friendships with people who have problems, even if we have administrative differences, but that we should not let friendship touch. How to achieve this? It sounds so elegant and civilized that we'd like to achieve it without a fancy diplomatic stance.


Usually our friends are the ones who approve our thoughts and way of working, and if you don't think or act the same, it is your enemy and try to destroy it if possible or try to discredit it, I have been able to see great friends and then great enemies trying to destroy each other and disrespecting each other , the one who humiliates the most is the best, this is very contrary to Krsna consciousness.


I think that a key word is respect, but today there are many questions about whether such a devotee deserves respect or not, this is interesting, surely in the Scriptures we can find the answer.


Maybe I could give the example of a married couple, there is such a fine line to lose respect for any situation, however, if appreciation is cultivated as Vaisnavas, as people, with the education that our parents gave us and the advice of Krsna consciousness, at least we can shipwreck as respectful and honest enemies, but how to go to another level of real friendship in the midst of differences?


Thank you very much for your kind attention.

Please excuse our limitations.

May Lord Nrisimhadeva protect his sankirtana and energy for the pleasure of Śrīla Prabhupāda.

She your eternal servant aspirant.


asta sakhi dd.


HpS - Of course NoI 5 tells us that a symptom of friendship is to:

  • give gifts,
  • give auspicious eatables, and especially,
  • to talk confidentially.

This is in the Madhyama adhikari level and of course applys in any VAD circumstance. It applys in family relations, administrative relations etc.


Madhyama adhikari goes from Diksa to Bhava, no? So many levels of making these exchanges. Yet in all of them there is still some impersonalism. We should be able to feel that. It should make us hungry, but not frustrated [!], to move to the Uttama adhikary level, NoI 6 of making friendships.


Of course, all these friendships are in relationship to our Only Friend, that dark complexioned youth who is just waiting around the corner for you too walk up to Him by accident one day.

😲


"Ho, Asta-sakhi Devi Dasi, what's up?"


Of course, at that point we fall in the ground in complete shock and what happens after that I don't know.


Having friends who help us be a friend to our Best Friend.


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Do you think Radha and Candravali want each other dead? 🙂


Of course, not. They love each other like anything! They only hope that all their competition inspires the other even greater service in their mood.

[They are cousins]


In Europe one big monotheist died, and his biggest opponent, gigantic atheist, was seen by atheists friends to be crying copious tears, in great convulsions.

His friends and students asked:

Sir, why are you crying, lamenting. He was your greatest enemy and now he is dead!


The atheist looked at them in deep, deep grief and said, "Yes, yes, yes, that is true, but do you not understand! Now with whom will I argue all these points? Toward whom will I direct all my anger and rage?"


Is of some help, perspective:

At the end of the day we chant and dance together. Apologize if we were a little to rough in the fight, but understand that we have different jobs, positions, to represent.


https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/4/12/3/ ???


My Anartha - Sayuja Mukti

asa[e] - sayuja mukti


Hare Krishna, Gurudeva,

Please accept my hopeful obeisances.

All Glories To Srila Prabhupada,


HpS/ASA - AgtSP! Thank you for your Blog post! We were talking with some Senior ISKCON devotee a few days ago and a thought was that 'AgtSP' should come before anything else. 'Ekaki amara, nahi paya bala, harinama sankirtane', (Ohe, Vaisvana Thakura).

Without SP we cannot chant, follow principles, respect each other... .

AgtSP!

Is correct?


We had detail conversation with HG Partha Pratim Prabhu about our own desire and Anarthas.

It came out, we never wanted to serve Krsna, we want Sayuja Mukti (merging with Krsna Body).


Moreover in this world we want Opulence of Fame of Krsna, but we wanted to famous as Renunciant, so that every other famous person ( beautiful, powerful, rich, knowledgeable) will bow down in front of us.


ASA - Even Arnold Schwarzenegger? 😲


We have accepted that we can not become Krsna, so we will try to become as close to him as we can, by even merging in him.

HG said that only good quality /hope is our attachement to you.


We did not know that we envy Krsna so much, that we are ready to eternal Spiritual suicide.


Can you kindly elaborate more in on desire of Sayuja Mukti? Can you add more of your expert comments as Guru ( finding fault with disciple for Disciple's benefit).


Who in scripture was also suffering from this disease? What steps we can take be cured from this disease?


rarest of the offender

Harsh Pradhan


HpS/ASA - Thank you for this question!

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/1/2/5/


This has been in the back of our mind forever.

We hear about this desire.

SP writes about it a lot, no??!


Yet, he also says that Mayavada, Sunyavada, philosophy is 'incomprehensible'.

We first read this long before initiation or living in SF temple. We were trying to understand Buddhist philosophy.

Eg. God is a circle with its center everywhere and no circumference. We were going mad trying to 'comprehend' it. Then we read Prabhupada's above comment, and 🙂 aaaah. It all made sense.


What does it feel like to merge with Krsna's body or become Sunya, zero?


It seem like a completely silly question.


It is like, "What does it feel like to be dead"? 😄 😄😄


I have heard that SP said the closest we can come to understanding Sayujya mukti is to imagine what it would be like to wake up in the morning and there was no one else in the world except for you.


Hare Krsna!


Very interesting, no?

Would all the bakeries still be working?


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I can only understand wanting unobstructed fame, power etc.

Even that I'm seeing I have childish ideas of what these are. It is like a three year old child thinking that unlimited power would be to eat as many cookies as you wanted whenever you wanted etc.


Now that we are inspired in this meditation, and we have been informed how really great God really is we can start to imagine really big power.

Eg. Benediction of Vrkasura.


Ooof. Scary. Empty. We just want to be servants of Krsna, in so many indirect ways, always at the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada (with you?).


Of course, our personal power, ability, beauty, can continually develop in service in ways that not even Krsna can predict.


That is our realization.


We've seen at moments how deeply rooted these desires for fame are. I suspect that you, me, HG Partha Pratim Das, are doing everything, EVERYTHING, 99.999% for selfish desire.


Only hope is that Radha is more powerful than Durga.

Mercy is the essence of justice, not truth.


O.K.?


Respects to Prabhu.

Science and the Vedas (Rama's Bow)

1 year, 10 months ago by hps in Special Category B

Hayagriva Avatara writes in Whatsapp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgyy4hVnOKY

Rama's Bow


Uncle Gismo - Bachelor T. Browne responds:

Thaaaaank you! I stumbled into PraveenMohan's channel yesterday and looked at some of his work. I watched the Rama's Bow to 4.18. It is interesting, but he seems to be stuck in the perspective of trying to analyze everything in terms of Kali yuga atmosphere.

Like a cockroach in New York in the Winter, trying to understand how things we in the Fall.


Even from our little application of this Yoga we can see that just by learning to purify the body by chanting and dancing to Srila Prabhupada's tune, we start to develop such internal strengths.

Eg. Maybe we can grow piezoelectric crystals in our pineal glands.

Then you could . . .

😃

😃

. . . 😃

Lost a Job!

1 year, 10 months ago by hps in Personal Sadhana Reports, Special Category B

Whatsapp:

Hare Krishna, Maharaj ji !

Right now I am in problem, my company fired me, I am jobless now, this time is very difficult, I have wife and one small daughter in my family, I am trying to solve this problem.

If possible kindly pray for us.


Your Servant

Yadu-vara Das


ASA - Krsna is kind. He is never cruel to anyone. If He sends Tapasya it is something practical that they can handle. It is only for purification and elevation.

If He needs a new Svayambhuva Manu and Satarupa in heaven, He may starve an advanced devotee couple so that they can leave their bodies in peace and happiness in the Holy Dhama chanting Holy Names and go to Svarga. This is rare, but possible.


Putin may start a nuclear war and we may all starve to death. It IS possible.


Chanakhya Pt. says that poverty cannot stay where there is constant endeavor, ignorance cannot stay where there is constant recitation of the Vedas (SB) and sinful reaction cannot stay where there is constant chanting of Hari-nama.


Get to work!

Look for a job for Krsna's service.

Priya-Prasna

asa(e), vad, sannyasa, stri dharma, conversations



🌴

Bhaktin Priya Texted HpSwami:

"I would like to tell you about my experience today going to an ISKCON temple in which there was an attempt to seriously extort me - arranged by a devotee calling me “Maraji” but misrepresenting the cost of fuel x10. You can give me a call."


ASA 🐵:

Thank you for your text message. Bhakta T. Brown here. We are HpSwami, Anjana Suta Academy (ASA), Secretary. He said to explain that someone in Sannyasa Ashrama, like himself, has got these rules to follow.

I guess it is like your good self. You have to follow rules as a lawyer.

He said that he tried to explain this before but guess he missed the mark.


Very nice explanation of ths Sannyasa Dharma, Rules, is in Srila Prabhupada's BG. Starts at the following link and then especially goes through the next two paragraphs.


Is it clear? ?? 😕


Someone like yourself can do so, so much needed service in ISKCON.


https://vedabase.io/en/library/bg/16/1-3/#bb3635


". . . .forbidden to have any intimate relationship with a woman."


It goes on to explain this as even having conversations in a "secluded place". Of course, this also means individual telephone calls in a rigorous sense.


It is not to just avoid the tricks of Maya in causing gross fall downs. It is also to avoid becoming habitualed to an informal ambience in our dealings with the opposite sex.


Is O.K.?


If you like we can put you in touch with very nice Grhasta family in Houston who can answer a lot of these questions, and give practical help in catching Con Artists.


Please answer in this Blog 🐸. At least five more people will find this dialog personally useful.


Thank you.


Go ahead. Go back home, back to Godhead.

Guidance from a Swami

asa[e] - VAD, Sannyasa Dharma, Advisor


Dear Maharaj,

PAMHO AGTSP!


I wanted to write to you to ask your guidance on where to go from here. Next year I can pursue college as you expressed. Until then I can pursue martial arts as you guided. But before I start martial arts, I need to wrap up previous projects. I wanted to ask your guidance on an alternative place to stay? People where my parents stay ask awkward questions to which we don’t have answers to yet.

YAS,

YS


HpS/ASA - AgtSP! paoho.... We are relating to the physical and mental world through a 75-year old California body. At 30-years old the physical energy in the body starts to diminish. At fifty the mental. We can only relate to specific planning, mental plans, by writing stuff down. We can write this kind of letter because we can write and re-write it. Focus on one "local" plan.


Very funny, very fascinating.


Same will happen to you, everyone.


As your body doesn't jump and hop, mind the same, you begin to realize that you are not body or mind.


Then, "Who am I"? Because we have spiritual resources we can, and are gratefully pushed, to realize our intellectual (Buddhi) nature.


Hmmm. How is my intelligence? What is my attitude to life? Bhava? Most people never really ask this question. They just accept the attitude to life that their culture, Disney, Netfixs, gives them.


If we get the Bhava, perspective, that BG gives us, then we can reawaken our spiritual nature and go to dance in Goloka.


Cha! Cha! Cha! ....


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So, often people ask us for specific advise. We can give general suggestions and focus on a few specific situations, but without knowing the specific details, we cannot give detailed advice, Eg. In which city to live, what career to take.


It just bewilders us.


We feel like a buffalo looking at a person sitting in front of us on a motorized lawn mower, honking their horn and waving at us to move.


""Hu????"


We wrote about this topic two days ago: https://monkeywarrior.com/detail/14018/, please read that post, it should help.


We get this question often and try to explain our limits. As Mangala-ananda Das told us, "After seven or so years as your disciple, I have figured out that you are my guru, not my psychologist".


We feel bad because we would like to study every situation and help, but it is just not possible. We are not the supreme enjoyer, proprietor or FRIEND. The last mistake got Maharaja Bharata and Adam, husband of Eve.


We were pushed into Sannyasa by many intelligent people. O.K. Then we realized that it meant going beyond Kuticaka, living in a Temple cave near the Temple and just taking food from that Temple and giving advice. The administrators had some expectation that you would give advice that would be comfortable to their administrative ambitions. Oooof!


So, we took to Parivrajacacary.


We had stayed in Kolkatta helping our esteemed Sannyasa guru and Sankirtan leader, H. H. B. S. Damodara Swami, develop the Second World Congress for a Synthesis of Science and Religion for over a year. It had been my first summer in India and the hottest one in Kolkatta in 35-years. We lost 20-pounds, were so weak we had to be careful walking that we did not fall down. Yet, we still went out on Indian buses to do Sankirtan! Jay!!


Severe austerities for the B.I.


We had promised to stay for three months.

We did.

Maharaja asked to stay another three months.

.. . . . ... We DID.


Then he asked for another three months and

. . . . We D I D ! !


Then... yes, he asked again (each time by phone), please stay just a little longer. 'Don't always run away'!


Oooof!!!

We stayed and worked.

Then Maharaja, my Sankirtan leader, came to India, and the Congress was scheduled to start etc.

He was critical of how many contacts that we had been able make etc. etc.


We were very hurt. Whine. Whine. Whine. We had gone way beyond what he had asked. We had tried our, agree limited, best, and then he was criticizing us.


Ooof.


After about one-hour he came out of his room smiling and said, "Come here". I went into his room and he showed me some documents in his suitcase that he was unpacking. From the Kolkatta weather they had gotten so damp, they were sticking together, and one Brahmacari was very carefully pulling them apart so that they were not destroyed.


He laughed and said that he had to make a very serious apology to me, that he had forgotten (he was a graduate student in Kolkatta for many years) what it was like in Kolkata.


I was happy.


Often ISKCON leaders would be overly critical of us and never apologize. Between myself and Maharaja I feel a very intimate friendship. We hope to see him soon!


Yet, he is not God. He made mistakes. He could not give perfect advice.

If you want perfect career advice, you must talk with God. Srila Prabhupada, and They may say, that even they don't know.


The Jiva's have free will, and because of that they can do delightful never before dreamed of things that charm Radha and Krsna. We are all special. Unique, of inestimable value.


I could go on with this theme.


It describes how we scrounged a ticket back to USA. To leave Kolkata we had to duck under Maharaja's radar as more and more and more people were coming to organize this Congress etc. We arrived in New York in the middle of Winter and two feet of snow. No place to stay but on the street.

We just would not compromise with any of the Temples we knew to get a place to stay in exchange for being an "accommodating" Sanyasis.


We called Shankar Shastri and he was happy for us to stay for a few days, but beyond that it would interrupt his life style.


In the end we were determined, as must be you, and anyone seeking to become a Goswami and then a pure devotee, that we would rather die than lie to people about the truth.


Eg. "Prabhu, I know that you are Temple President, GBC Secretary, rich man, but I have to say that on this point you are wrong. You are being to arrogant with the devotees in this situation".


So, I was thinking that I would just go and sit behind a tennis back-board in a school athletic yard and freeze to death with honor and be found in the Spring thaw.


Then, little by little, Krsna revealed a plan for preaching and traveling for the next three months.


O.K. That's all we had, but that's enough.


!!!! Chant good rounds. Read Prabhupada's books. Talk with six good devotees who know you and then see if Krsna wants you here or in Goloka. If He wants you here, maybe the best he can do is give you a plan that will take you up: O.K. He has not given me an ultimate plan, but He has given me a career move that will have some immediate results and put me in a better position to take advantage of opportunities in the future. !!


You see we have taken a lot of time to answer your question.


Before this Blog we would have had to write this letter seven times each year!


Now we feel that we have done the best for many other devotees, because we can answer your excellent question, but for many other also!


O.K.???


We are facing exactly the same challenges as you right now.

We are trying to clarify what is going to happen with NIOS etc.


We are doing our work. We visited all of our work stations for six months. Now we are back in Kishkindha and we are trying to understand Krsna's next plan of work. Really, it is very possible that Krsna wants us to abandon this body and mind and go to work in another planet.


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As we understand many devotees, including us, had the same question wen Tamal Krsna Swami died in the car accident, "Oh, Prabhupada, how could you let this happen"?


"I need him for other work here. I let him stay with you for as long as possible. If you did not take advantage of him that is your fault, not mine".


Unless we accept that Sankirtan may kill us, Maya will always have us under her control.


Visnu priya was just as good a Goswami as Lord Caitanya.


Tell us the opinion of others about your situation, the insights from your chanting. Citations from your readings of SP's books that related to your decision making.


O.K. We look at a few more letters.

The go rake leaves!


Thank you!!


Expect to hear great results from your war on Maya!


JHpS - ASA