doubt regarding offence -from canto 4

11 years, 5 months ago by harsh_horse in Hot Topics

Hare krsna Maharaj, PAMHO, AGTSP
this question should have been either in chapter class or module review class, in BHVAI canto 4.

This is regarding offence of Surici against Dhruv Maharaj.

http://vedabase.com/en/sb/4/9/23 says "When Suruci insulted Dhruva Mahārāja, he was just a child. She of course did not know that Dhruva was a great recognized Vaiṣṇava, and so her offense was committed unknowingly. When one serves a Vaiṣṇava unknowingly, one still gets the good result, and if one unknowingly insults a Vaiṣṇava, one suffers the bad result."

But Surici offended him when Dhruv ji was not a vaisnava. What was the fault of Uttama, he was younger than Dhruv Maharaj, he did not even insult him.

we are asking this because every one is potential vaisnava. but he follow Ksatriya rules it is ok to insult opponent as a sport. so is it that all insult we have done to people would be treated as vaisnava apradh. 

trying to run with small steps
dwarf

    HpS - ASA -  AGTSP    paoho.   Hmmmm!     We guess that Dhruva Maharaja was a "vaisnava" right from the very beginning. As soon as he had information that the best way to solve his problems was to go to Visnu he accepted the offering with full determination. He could have thought, "No, that's to hard!  I will do it myself. I am more than the almighty God. I will corrupt my brother by starting with offering him chocolates. Haw!   Haw!   Hawww....".   So he took to Visnu worship, and he didn't know about love God as an option, no?   Did Narada Prabhu give him that option?

          Yes, it seems that maybe we should not go to the Temple because there we might commit some unconscious offense to some one and if we stay in hell then we won't commit any Vaisnava aparada.  Ha!  Ha!  Hare!!!!                Guess, this is just the way it is.  What we want is at the Temple so we HAVE to go, but....  we have to be careful!           Then Uttam, brother.  Maybe he was guilty because he didn't protest the treatment of his brother.   Laksman, Bharata, they didn't tolerate the mistreatment of their Brother...   Hmmmm

news from Montreal

11 years, 5 months ago by Raulmontreal in Hot Topics

AGTSP !!

Please accept our humble obeisances

Dear Maharaja

It's been a while since I sent news, so here it goes (the abridged form to take as little of your precious time as possible)     We are chanting, reading SB, BTG, Iso, etc  got the Miracle on Second Ave. book also and finished in a week or so, pure nectar.

We also got the Radha-Damodara Vilasa II, Vishnujana Swami's lilas...just the first few pages got us pondering and tasting the nectar for weeks so that one will be finished in much longer time I beleive...began reading the CC Adi-lila also, well, that one will take a lifetime..

                HpS - ASA - Jaya!!!   Adi-lila starts off with a lot of very Ontological descriptions of Lord Caitanya and is very concentrated intellectually. So, don't be discouraged to move ahead in CC.  Other parts you might find super, super essential with more pastimes to illustrate the philosophy.

We went to Toronto Temple for a week to coincide with Vaisesika prabhu's seminar, SB morning clases,  bhajan, etc etc.. very extatic.  we miss Toronto Temple, so much enthusiasm and warm hearts there..felt like home.

 Krishna's mercy though has brough Bhakti Raghava Swami to a farm a couple of hours from Montreal so we are going whenever we get a lift...Nouvelle Vraja Bhumi, ahhh..   Krishna has once more saved us from certain spiritual death in Montreal...

Peru (Feb-March) was very nice also, summer, old pals and final farewells to Karmi passed there, etc.

Stayed close to the Chosica temple that we love and cherish very much (it was the first vedic architecture temple we ever saw and the first time we met Krishna back in 1990) chanted a lot of rounds there during our visit in March.

Now we are just hoping to stay for a few weeks or a month in Nouvelle Vraja Bhumi,  before our yearly visit to the states (Wash DC) to see mother and after that just run from here to Toronto in the winter so our bhakti lives and thrives.

We are thinking on moving to Toronto or Nouvelle Vraja Bhumi the only places around where we can survive as a devotee. Please we need your blessings, your mercy pulled us from inertia into fighting for saddhana.  

you most fallen and humble servant

bhakta Raul

                   HpS - ASA - Jaya!   AgtSP!!!!    Thank you so much for the news.  Very enlivening...    Of course, the best way to keep association is to do service with devotees.  That does not require physical presence.  Try to increase that. One thing we do is to study with devotees even at a great distance!

Candra-mukhi DD - Pandava-ekadasi, Shelter for Ladies.

11 years, 5 months ago by candra108_mukhi in Personal Sadhana Reports, Hot Topics
 
Hare Krsna, Beloved Gurudeva ¡¡¡
A G T S P ¡ ¡ ¡
PAOHO
 
I hope this meets U in really good health ¡¡¡
 
 
Thanks for your association and inspiration. Our Sadhana has improved a lot. Japa joe at 1:30 am has helped us a lot.. Mangal artik is nice.. service is better now. Our sole Bhakti Sastri student Radha govinda dd is young and she is very nice. Her association is helping us a lot.
 
 
I am focusing as U advised me on my BELOVED GAURA NITAY They are so merciful and kind ¡¡ They are helping us a lot ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ We are under Nityananda's lotus feet shelter.
 
Bhakti vaibhava study is extremely nice for us ¡¡¡¡¡ I have realized that Srimad Bhagavatam is our very means of conquest in this age ¡¡¡¡¡
 
Association with  good devotees like Madhumanjari dd, Palika dd, Sundari Radhika dd ¡¡¡ extraordinary ladies ¡¡¡ helped us A LOT¡¡¡¡¡¡
 
I am pretty busy so Maya can not get in ¡¡¡ I have to finish my Doctor Thesis in education THIS YEAR, also a lot of work in my university and in the temple ¡¡¡ It is nice, helps to keep our heart clean and our conscious up ¡¡¡
 
NEWS: The whole set of Srimad Bhagavatam IN ENGLISH has arrived at our home ¡¡¡ mercy from Palika dd I am paying it in parts I am so happy Krsna Himself as His literary encarnation is at home JAYA 
 
Nevertheless on the other hand I have one concern.    U said one thing to me in your last email ¡¡ 3 ladies alone unprotected ¡¡ Just one nice dog ¡¡¡ 
 
My mother, sister and me .. U are a sanyasi You can protect me with your instruction and mercy BUT here in Peru where can we take shelter??    Who can be take care of us here ?? 
 
Also next on June 19th it will be Pandava nirjala Ekadasi any specific instruction for me for this Bhima ekadasi?? that can help me ?
 
Thank U all so much
Trying always to be your disciple
Candramonkey dd
 
               HpS - ASA - Jaya!   AGTSP....   paoho.  Sorry has taken eight days to answer this.  Too much work.  We have to surrender more to get power to do more service!  Jaya.   From our experience there was no emphasis on Bhima-ekadasi while Srila Prabhupada was here, at least not in San Francisco Temple. It started after he left.   Recently Guru-prasada Swami, Guna-grahi Swami and Bhanu Swami among others investigated this and the conclusion was something like, there is no specific scriptural injunction nor instruction from Srila Prabhupada to do Nirjala ekadasi on this ekadasi.  Of course, every Ekadasi can be nirjala ekadasi as we can do it and must at minimum be a fast from beans and grains, all with the purpose of increasing devotional service, especially hearing and chanting about Govinda. Read the Krsna book with someone else on Ekadasi!
 
I don't know who specifically you can take as social-psychological-practical shelter now that your father is not present, but the basic principle is super important and if you pray to Krsna I think he will give you help. For example you have  a relation with Pallika Devi Dasi. O.K.   She and her good husband may be natural people.    Another practical thing would be to sell or rent your house and buy a house near to the Temple in Chosika or something like that.  There are so many ways to start heading in the right direction, and ultimately because it is Kali-yuga and Varna-ashrama-dharma is so weak, Krsna, Himself, is inclined to become father, brother...   but  better to look for the physical representative he is sending.   Please let us all know your progress in this regard. It is very important.  Temple President should help.

Opinión sobre blog HPS

11 years, 5 months ago by jayanta in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports, Hot Topics

Querido Gurudev: Pamho. TgSP y seguidores fieles.

Gracias por sus consejos. Los brahmanas siempre dan buenos consejos para el bien general.

Su español es mucho mejor que mi inglés. Gracias por comunicarse en español!

Mi opinión sobre el blog es que debe ser para "animar" a los devotos, para aumentar "utsaha" (esfuerzo con inteligencia) con buenas noticias, propuestas de mejora (objetivos) individuales y colectivas, etc. La critica (opiniones negativas) deberia ser muy estricta y ajustarse a algunas reglas. Hay un dicho que dice:

"Dios me libre de juzgar a un hermano sin haber calzado durante un mes sus zapatos"

Creo que antes de publicar una critica en un foro público como internet:

Hay que estar seguro de que lo que se publica es verdad.

El que hace la critica debe aportar soluciones y debe estar muy comprometido con la solución.

Hay que analizar bien si la critica va a mejorar  a los devotos o proyectos. No olvidemos que cuando criticamos un proyecto estamos criticando a los devotos que lo estan llevando. (de la misma manera que cuando criticamos  un edificio estamos criticando al arquitecto que lo diseñó).

etc.........

            HpS - ASA -  TLGASP.  pfanrh.  Si, todo es un hecho.  We tried.. Esforze seguir y predicar esta norma como antes pero somos Buck White, Tom Brown y Tio Gismo aqui con ayuda de HpSwami y nuestro Castellano NO es bien.  Entonces todo el mundo tiene que entender que para nosotros leer las cartas con inteligencia es como Vd leyendo una carta en Portugues.   Ooof.        Tratamos mejorar.  No deja ayudar nosotros.    Esperamos no solamente nosotros pero todos leyen esta carta y mejorar cosas!

En cuanto al Yatra español, creo que vamos en buena dirección y la velocidad ira aumentando cuando el camino se vaya haciendo mas ancho. Mi visión es que los proyectos deben funcionar administrativamente independiente y luego todos los devotos de todos los proyectos debemos reunirnos (mínimo una vez al año) para sravanam, kirtanam, tomar prasadam, preguntar confidencialmente, abrazarnos, hablar con devotos afines de nuestros de nuestros retos, problemas, etc. En definitiva hacer algunos Festivales en común. En Agosto tenemos todos los lideres una reunión con GBC y otros devotos importantes para trazar un recorrido de encuentro y ver que cosas podemos hacer en común.

            HpS - ASA -  Muy bien....  Muy bien.  Pero yo pienso el Consejo Rectorial tiene que tener reuniones como cada dos meces al minimo con los devotos, no?   Y cosas importantes escritos como todos puede trabajar con un vision juntos  y   fijando cosas, proyectos para un templo fijado.  ... "This is our goal until Janmastami and then we will review it all".   Yes.... Vaisnava relacions before Administrative relations.  Administrative, Varna-ashrama relacions based upon Vaisnava relacions. Jaya.  Being DRAWN into this discussion by twenty devotees.  Sentimos que el sendero es muy adelantado como antes progressar y si dejamos ententar no vamos a encontrar mejor situacion en ninguna otro sitio en ISKCON!

Gracias por su servicio a Srila Prabhupada y a ISKCON y a toda la comunidad de devotos. Pienso que usted se comporta como un sadhu; aunque el titulo oficial de sadhu, pienso que no debe darse hasta que no se deja el cuerpo.

Sin mas se despide

su sirviente

Jayanta das

               HpS - ASA -  Jaya.  Oink!  Oinnk!   Whoop!  Whoop!   Mas!!

Ur Lotus Feet / Reading Alone

11 years, 5 months ago by Gopal C Biswas in Personal Sadhana Reports, Hot Topics

Hare Krsna Respected Guru Maharaj,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.

             HpS - ASA   -   Apple Blossom Feet (maybe)

    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

               HpS - ASA - Jaya!
    All glories to Guru parampara.

    This letter is answer to your earlier letter.

    Guru Dev, Your feet is always lotus. There is no doubt. You present Sri Sri Radha-
    Kunjabihari to all of us so we don't have any doubt.

           HpS - We sleep like 8-hours in a day often. Srila Prabhupada slept 4-5 usually. Often when we are tired we watch bio-graphys and documentaries rather than read the Krsna book.  This is symptom of Madhyama-adhikari. No spontaneous attraction, 100%.  Apple blossom feet, by the mercy of Srila Prabhupada.  No "Maya" that breaks four principles. Relating bio-graphys to KC. Material desires under control and diminishing, but if we try to imitate Srila Prabhupada's position we won't advance. 


    No, there is no study partner. We Read alone. During reading, We collect/write lots of   questions and doubts and go to temple and then discuss with Temple Bramachari,
   (whom i report at the local temple).

         HpS - Aaaah!   So that is not reading alone.  You are with him in Vani. Perfect!  Who is this B'cari?


    Your words always give me strength, Like, When you speak with the convection that
    we have Beadd-bag and Prabhupada's book so no need to worry, even if we go to hell. We
   should not worry.

    I live with your words and will live with your Words.

    You speak about Sri Radha-Krsna with such a convection, which i never find anywhere.

    As you advised, We will surely search your lectures in the ISKCON Juhu, website.

    Actually, we were looking for your lecture & question/answer session on BG 9.22.

    Thank you, Guru Dev.

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

                HpS - Jaya!  AgtSP.  All glories to your ISKCON Temple!      Sorry little late to answer... one week.  We are doing better.  Recovering from so much service AND pushing not to do too much now!         O.K.  Join us for the rest of today's letters!

CC Nectar

11 years, 5 months ago by Gadai in Hot Topics

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada!!!!!

Todas las Glorias a Sri Caitanya Maha Prabhu!!!!!

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaj, reciba mis afectuosas reverencias, espero  tener  la misericordia de poder escribirle siempre, aunque algunas veces el tema del internet  falla.

Lo que pude leer en el Caitanya Caritamrita “Adi Lila – Cap. 11, texto 13” es que Abhirama Thakura  fue anteriormente Sridama Thakura.  Por orden de Sri Nityananda Prabhu, Abhirama Thakura llegó a ser un gran Acarya y predicador  del  servicio devocional. Por el poder recibido de Sri Nityananda Prabhu, estaba siempre en éxtasis, y era sumamente bondadoso con todas las almas caídas.  Se dice que si ofrecía reverencias a cualquier piedra que no fuera una Salagrama-sila, inmediatamente se rompía en pedazos.  También tenía un látigo  y a cualquiera que tocase con él, se volvía inmediatamente un elevado devoto de Krsna.

Es lo que encontré sobre Abhirama Thakura , lo más probable es que en capítulos posteriores encuentre más comentarios  sobre  Abhirama Thakura.  ¿Qué grandes almas estarán por aquí?

También pude encontrar este texto muy importante en el “Adi Lila, Cap. 10, texto 158” Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami,  se dice que era experto en cocinar, todo lo que cocinaba sabia a néctar. Sri Caitanya Maha Prabhu  Se sentía muy complacido de aceptar los alimentos que preparaba Raghunatha Bhatta Goswami.  El Señor Caitanya le ordeno que fuera a Vrindavana para reunirse con Srila Rupa Gosvami, también le dijo que no se casara, que siguiera siendo Brahmacari, y también le ordeno que leyera el Srimad Bhagavatan constantemente. Así es que fue a Vrindavana y allí se dedicó a recitar el Srimad Bhagavatan para Srila Rupa Gosvami.

Se dice que Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami nunca hablaba tonterías ó temas mundanos, solo oía hablar de Krsna las veinticuatro horas del día “Krsna Katha”. Nunca se interezó en escuchar  cuando se blasfemaba contra un devoto.  Hasta cuando había algo que criticar, solía decir que, como todos los vaisnavas estaban ocupados en servir al Señor, a él no le importaban sus faltas. Se dice que en el pasado fue la Gopi llamada Raga – manjari. 

Interezante, No criticar, No blasfemar, No ofender, seguir cuatro principios regulativos, 16 buenas rondas,  Mangal Artik, leer los sastras  y no nos iremos al infierno!!!  Quizás solo un instante.

En lo personal estas enseñanzas nos han quedado bien claras, no ofender a nadie, es muy importante para el avance espiritual, de lo contrario nos caeremos por nuestras ofensas, solo debemos seguir las enseñanzas del  Guru, Sadhu y Sastras. Todo servicio es muy importante, siempre le estaré muy agradecido por sus consejos Guru Maharaj.

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaj, un Abrazo.  Nos vemos en las calles!!!

Gadai Gauranga Das

HpS - ASA -  Super Gracias!!!    TlgaSP!!    Pfanrh.      Mas....  Caitanya caritamrta es nectar.   Busca para personas en Sankirtan quien puede comprar un set completo, no?    Espero advanza muy rapido en su servicio!!!!!!!