about Initiation ( PabloParikrama )

11 years, 1 month ago by PABLOPARIKRAMA in Personal Sadhana Reports, Hot Topics

Agt Guru y Gauranga !

Agt Srila Prabhupada!

Pamho Maharaja!

Hare Krsna. Soy Bhakta Pablo del Parikrama, de españa.

Perdone que le escriba otra vez tan rapido.

About be a formal aspirant, the autorities of Madrid Mandir said that is no problem give the letter. They don´t have any drawback.

Then, now I say; " Please Maharaja, give refuge. I want be Your disciple. I want serve You, and learn from You. Please, be my Gurumahaja and connect me with Srila Prabhupada, Parampara and Sri Radha Krsna. With all my being I request this to You. At your fee. Always Yours and of Prabhupada, of Radha Krsda. Dandavats. "

HpS - AGTSP Have you been following 4 principles and chant 16 nice rounds for six months?

Advice to Romeo and Juliet

11 years, 1 month ago by hps in Special Category B, Hot Topics

We so often hear about men and women who get into an informal, accidental relation and then get abandoned and don't know what to do.

Here are some ideas.

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AGTSP paoho I guess the basic principle is that this is Kali-yuga. We are all alone, but we take some kind of artificial, cheating shelter by political co-operation with others sometimes and feel protected.

When we formally took Sannyasa then the real situation actually hit us. At first I was just staying and working in my little cave in the Berkeley Temple, but I could feel the subtle politics, so we started to travel and stay with different devotees around the Bay Area. This is Kuticak and then Bahudak. The stages of Sannyasa were so natural.

Then even that was not full surrender to Krsna so in ~January 1990 we took off on Parivrajack. We had just enough money to go and no more. It was frightening, but we were pretty convinced that Krsna was there. This was our duty. So we did it and one thing after another worked out and we have been traveling all over the world since then, ~1990, with no money or shelter except from Krsna.

At one point we arrived in New York in the snows of Winter and could stay with Professor Sankar Sastri for a few days but we really had no place to go after that. We did not agree with the way the BI or other Temples were doing things and we refused to compromise our principles. We finally decided that if there was no option we would just go sit behind some hand-ball board in a public park and freeze to death in the snow and let our body be found in the Spring.

Then, we got invitation to come again to Peru and it was not a long-term solution but it was a wholesome thing to do and then we expected that Krsna would arrange another engagement after that, but... the basic principle is that we have to be ready to leave our body if there is no service for us here. 

Read the verses about when the Pandavas leave:

http://vedabase.com/en/sb/1/15

So that is the real principle. Unless you are ready to give up your body for Krsna you will always have to make compromises with the Witch and She is delegated with the task of causing your trouble.

As a Sannyasi, yes, we can't get into all the details of this, but a general principle is that a lady or gentlemand only has intimate relations with their husband or wife. If one has intimate relations with someone he is she is his or her husband or wife.

You can think like that. Then the embecile left you to look for some other associate, O.K. She's an embecile, doesn't understand what a great person you are (Ha! Ha!).

And your attachment, lamentation etc. is natural, but what can you do? What can you do when your mother dies?

Well, you can do a lot... your mother is not dead, your "wife" is not dead. You can try to understand what to do for the welfare of all, not just your self, given the current situation.

O.K?

Don't try to be patient more than enthusiastic. Do something nice for everyone.

Marco from Monterrey - Touching Fire.

Hare Krishna Maharaj, all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

All glories to Lord Caytania and Lord Nytiananda!

All glories to you Maharaj Hanumatpresaka Swami!

Please accept my humble obeisances. I have been trying to write but I am not sure if I did it right. My name is Marco from Monterrey and I have very little in the Hare Krishna Movement (10 months). I am living in the Monterrey Temple and try to chant 16 rounds every day and to follow the 4 principles but Maya is always seducing me with lustful desires, anger and lack of enthusiasm to perform devotional service.

I had the fortune of doing Sankirtan marathon last december in Mexico City. I survived. After that, January was the best month. I was enthusiastic, getting up early, doing extra service, not complaining...I felt great but this eagerness has been diminising little by little. In the last couple weeks I've failed to get up early, finish rounds, etc.

I have to admit my attention is more focused in a mataji I met and I've been making all sorts of plans to be near her. (Move to DF, etc). Maha Sankarsan invited me to work with him at the farm and I asked him if I can do Sankirtan also. We are still adjusting details. 

Please tell me what you think. 

Please excuse my offenses.

Your humble aspirant,

Marco 

HpS - AGTSP paoho. I think it's nice to hear from you. In general, your devitional career is normal, but of course also very individual. We cannot give detailed advice from such a separation in distance etc, but in general we can suggest what Canakhya Pandit says:

Victory comes from good advice, and good advice comes from many counselors.

1. So, keep a collection of good advisors who know you, the local situation, your associates.

2. Chant Hare Krsna to get Krsna's advice.

3. Read, read, read Prabhupada's books for general and even detailed advice!

1, 2, 3 you will be successful.

In general, you will not be able to understand what marriage is until you are at the level of second initiation. That takes three years normally. Before that if you experiment before that you will generally all survive alive with no fatal burns if you are all strict with the four principles.

If you break the four principles you can create a situation that can ruin your entire life.

Keep your romance within the associacion of a broader family.

NIMSAR MARCH 8TH

Hare Krsna Beloved Gurudeva:

AGTSP 

PAMHO

Hope this meets U in really good health ¡¡¡¡

Yesterday we had a very nice meeting with NIMSAR and its directory 

Gaura Gadadhara dasi joined us ¡¡¡ JAYA she is going to give the Deity Worship Course with NIMSAR in MAy and she is also presented the possibility of a Yoga Course ¡¡¡

Isvari dd will take charge of the coordination of the Sanscrit course along with Patraka das... LAD is the link with Goloka Education we will study and see in which way we can develop that ...

B German was selected to be in charge of communication in NIMSAR ¡¡¡¡ he also mentioned a very nice tool for preaching little clips from 3 minutes  for example a clip of 3 minutes explainning Who is Lord Jagannatha ¡¡¡¡ We will ask help from Guruvrata das ¡¡¡ B German has already talk with him today ¡¡¡ 

We are just one week from the openning course from Bhakti Sastri and Bhakti Vaibhava

We are really happy to help a little bit in the eternal Sankirtan of Srila Prabhupada and U

At the end we had a very nice prasadam ¡¡¡ in the meetings we laughed and have a very nice talks...

Thank U Gurudeva for your guidance and inspiration

At your lotus feet always

NIMSAR

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HpS - Jaya! AGTSP. Paoho. Very nice report. We heard that Mother Yugala was traveling on Sankirtan and could not attend and Mother Rohini wants more to do simple administrative work, the testing for Bhakti-sastri.

We answered the Letter to Tutors from LAD.

Seems like NIMSAR is going in the right direction, of course many problems, so we all have to take care of our own spiritual life, sankirtan, individually as well.

1) We are in Jaya-pataka Swami's Zone and he is looking forward to a lot of help in education from us. Ekanatha gaura Das is our link to him. We will meet with Rama-giri-dhari Das in Texas in two days, so we can discuss this, he is Executive Director of Ministry of  Education (MOE) and work on Regional Representative for South America for MOE etc.

2) You are collecting money? In whose name, ASA? What happens to this money? What is the exact detailed agreement? This should be publicly available for comment.

Thank you so much!

"Bg 18.70 — And I declare that he who studies this sacred conversation of ours worships Me by his intelligence."

A Grhastha Perspective

11 years, 1 month ago by hps in Hot Topics

AGTSP
Paoho and best wishes.

Esteemed ABC-XYZ Das we have been receiving anxious letters from your good wife about your keeping company with another woman. Of course, the basic principle is to keep our sexual relations simple, Krsna conscious. We only relate to the opposite sex for Krsna's service.

"Kandarpa is the sex desire for presenting good sons; therefore Kandarpa is the representative of Kṛṣṇa. Sometimes sex is engaged in only for sense gratification; such sex does not represent Kṛṣṇa. But sex for the generation of good children is called Kandarpa and represents Kṛṣṇa."

http://vedabase.com/en/bg/10/28

What's happening? ?

We don't see any Annual Report from your good self. Are you fixed in your Japa and the four principles? What can we do for you? Do you want us to act as Diksa or Siksa guru for you?

For us as a Sannyasi of course we cannot go into great details but we can give great general advice, direct you to where to get detailed advice. These discussions should be pubished in a general sense on the Blog.

We are not going Back to Godhead if we don't solve these problems, become members of a sane Vaisnava society. Instead we will become animals again like so many people who have had a chance to engage in religious life, even be Indra or Candra but failed.

I am surely fighting with this and the best thing seems to help each other as our strength permits.

Relación entre vaisnavas

11 years, 2 months ago by purnamasidevidasi in Hot Topics

Querido Gurudeva:
Por favor, acepte mis humildes reverencias.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Espero se encuentre bien cuando reciba este mensaje.

Le escribo esta carta para pedirle su ayuda y consejo. Después de las cosas tan desagradables que han sucedido y siguen sucediendo en el Templo de Madrid me surgen muchas dudas. Estoy un poco confundida después de sentir que todo este cambio ha sido forzado sin seguir los principios básicos de las relaciones entre vaisnavas con engaños, traiciones, ocultismo, etc. 
Algunos devotos han elaborado un plan master sectario evitando informar al consejo rector (al que incluso uno de ellos pertenecía) e ignorando también a otros miembros activos de la congregación que no pensamos como ellos para conseguir algo (el control del Templo) que podrían haber conseguido simplemente presentándolo bien y honestamente al consejo rector.
Con todo esto me surgen unas dudas acerca de cómo actuar a partir de ahora. ¿Debo olvidarlo todo de forma artificial y actuar como si no hubiera pasado nada o debo explicarles, con educación, lo que pienso y siento? ¿Qué es lo correcto? ¿Qué es lo que complace a Krsna?¿Cómo puedo continuar mi relación con ellos sin fracturas?  

Sé que, por mi inmadurez y mi gran ego falso, me he identificado con el Templo y sus devotos y todo esto me ha resultado y me sigue resultando muy desagradable. Por ello, le pido con humildad su misericordia y que me resuelva las dudas y me dé consejos para superar esta "prueba" y seguir avanzando bajo su guía.
Su aspirante a humilde sirvienta,
Purnamasi devi dasi

               HpS - ASA - AGTSP.   paoho. When Krsna was personally present in Vrndavan demons came and caused so much disturbance that the girls had miscarriages.

Madrid temple is not Vrndavan.

Krsna is not personally present.

Things aren't so bad that we hear of miscarriages.

So, we expect there to be problems. This is the material world. If we stay in proper consciousness we can see Krsna is adjusting everything for His purpose. He let Draupadi be attacked.

First thing is to adjust your participation in the situation before trying to understand anyone else. Then try to understand devotees from NOI 5. On that basis, with a few clear relations you can be involved in Plans, admnistration, work in the Temple.

Don't give up on Srila Prabhupada or his Temple but understand how to relate to it properly.

We hear from Yadu Swami and some others, and the mess in Madrid is not much worse or better than so many places in the world, ISKCON. Karmis are nice, sometimes because they get what they want. Other times they are terrible.

Canto Seven describes fights between cousins who will become King of heaven etc.