Letters to the editor

Respected Guru Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I am very sorry I did not attend Saturday's SB class by phone. Actually, at that time Gopal's wife was delivering her baby in the Logan hospital, with my wife at her side.

HpS - Well, O.K.      I guess we can excuse her and you all, but if they are recorded then we can all listen later. Our respects to the Mother and family.

Gopal was frantically driving from Boise to Logan, rushing to make it in time for the 9:30am C-section operation. I was coordinating between Gopal, his wife, and my wife---trying to keep everyone calm---while also looking after the kids at home. The baby was finally born around 9:30am. In the pandemonium, I totally forgot about class.

I am so sorry you have had to go through so much pain just to have a weekly Bhagavatam class in Boise. This is actually for our benefit, and yet you are taking all the trouble. Please, Gurudeva, I really want to make this my last life in the cycle of birth and death.

HpS - Come on!   What could be more ecstatic than coming on the scene being pulled screaming and crying form the belly of your poor mother cut open with a sharp instrument?

Help!!     I need these classes as much as our while ISKCON.

I promise that in the future I will call on Saturday mornings if it is in any way possible and attend Bhagavatam class. Please forgive me.

your unworthy servant,

Radhika Ramana dasa

HpS - Thank you so much. We are unworthy to be anyone's servant in New Bihar van.

We also noticed a Yahoo letter from your esteemed father ARD. We will look at it with Rama-giridhari Das and post it here also!

Tato jayam uddhirayet.

Dear Maharaja,

PAMHO AGTSP

Australia is ready and enlivened to receive you on evening of 12^th October, Melbourne.

HpS - Well, AGTSP, Paoho, Mate!   We are enlivended to be going so soon!

While holding my newborn, Sarasvati, and chanting Japa a proof came to me. “Nothing can come into existence that didn’t already exist in potential.” I nearly fell over laughing. It is beautiful. This applies to the universe and also consciousness. I have spent the last few days trying to defeat it. One cannot defeat it; they can only choose to ignore it.

HpS - "And then from the void light appeared (by chance)!"

One could say “Well what about flying unicorns? Do they therefore exist?”, to which I would reply “Yes, in your imagination. Now lets discuss where imagination comes from…”

A day later I came across Gödel’s “Incompleteness Theorem” which is same logic. The Supersoul talks no? It is also obvious why I have never heard of it before. From here one can move on to discussing the nature of the absolute truth. I will spend some time putting this proof on paper. With your blessings I will be able to please Krishna somehow.

HpS - I mentioned Godel'd Theorem to Sadaputa Das and he said that it is only true up to Second Level Calculus, which I don't know what it means, an arkane language.

Srila Prabhupada and Srimad Bhagavatam say “No philosophy is complete unless it can indicate the absolute truth.”

Below is a poster and description of our University of Queensland evening.

Ys

Dhruvananda

HpS - Interesting palaver, Mate. Think I'll tie up my old horse by the door and go in for a listen. Something strong to drink?

Respected Maharaja

Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

ASA - HpS - Paoho at your feet and all the assembled Vaisnavas. AGTSP!!

I am responding to your letter at http://hps-d6.monkeywarrior.com/node/8474 Thank you for your efforts, patience, and perseverance to start a weekly Bhagavatam study of Boise ISKCON devotees inside the temple. This is the third attempt you made in the recent past. Initially, almost all the time, I was the only one sitting in the temple on feeble phone connection from my home, broadcasting our online session. After many many weeks, I found it discouraging and eventually discontinued it when there was audio being played on the altar at the time of the class!

HpS - Yes, I think Ananta-rupa Das told me that they could not listen to the class so they were playing Bhajans while they dressed Sri Sri Banki bihari.

Then again by your efforts, we started a session just for local devotees and we were gathering before Sunday feast program to discuss weekly content. I was helping as much as possible with scheduling and other things. There was very good turnout and the response was positive and encouraging. Then all of a sudden the Temple President canceled it without soliciting any feedback from participants or a progression plan in place.

HpS - Could he have consulted but your good self just didn't know about it?

Now for the third time, you started it again. . .

HpS - Actually we had been doing a lot of discussion about the situation with ARD and Prof. Radhika ramana Das and that is how it got started to my knowledge.

. . .and this time, in my mind, I had no active role other than a participant in a program that the Temple President is promoting in accordance with the instructions from ISKCON Ministry of Education.  . .

HpS - Actually, we are right in the middle of the MOE meetings here in Ujjjain. It is INTENSE works and we are discussing all these things and of course remembering that administration is very dangerous because one can commit Hati-mata, offenses amongst the Vaisnavas, so easily. The MOE is just trying to apply Srila Prabhupada's instruction, even GBC instructions, always have a class in every morning in every ISKCON Temple. 

I was excited to participate but things didn't go well and as you summarized the class was canceled again.

HpS - Has it been canceled??   I just thought a couple of participants walked out of that one. They could apologize exchange gifts of money and non-alcoholic beer and try again next week.

Of course, the above three instances were most recent ones but you have been trying this for more than a decade and several ISKCON devotees from Boise and other places have been attending online and taking advantage of the scripture and your association.

HpS - All others.

At least, I would have been in a pretty bad situation, if it were not to the teachings you have been imparting in these weekly gatherings! Over the last decade, you made countless requests to Boise temple administration to get involved but it didn't work out.

HpS - Not countless. Just several and they may have their difficulties.

I agree with what you said: "No one in Boise, or even in the material world, has much claim to be perfect and not admit mistakes and offer obeisances to initiated ISKCON devotees and work out practical management problems in organizing Daily SB class." Please forgive me for losing my patience due to historical reasons, maybe I could have responded better! I am willing to attend, as a participant at the same time that you decided (6:30 am Saturday) so as to make it suitable for Anantarupa Prabhu to attend. I cannot promise to be the first person coming in advance and setting things up. If needed I can do it for a couple of weeks till devotees learn how to get online themselves. In fact, almost everyone knows and have logged into start meeting many times before. The presenters need to get their own laptops or the temple should provide one since some carry business laptops and cannot use it for public purposes other than in rare scenarios. I also feel the temple administration should give the projector so devotees can see the presentations instead of peeking into the tiny laptop.

Your insignificant servant

Srinivasacarya dasa

HpS - Thank you so much for communicating your perspective on the elephant. Let us see what others have to say.

So far the discussion is 0.K. (Zero Kill. Nobody dead).

Your suggestion about getting the Boise classes out to the community through tele-conferencing seem practical to me, but other may have more information to present. If nothing else someone could call in on a telephone and then broadcast and record through their phone. Of course, the visual is very nice!

Hare Krsna.

AGTSP Paoho

Here we are in Room 105 in the Guest House, ISKCON Ujjain.

It is 2.30AM and we have seven rounds done.

Our focus is the Daily Srimad Bhagavatam Class in our ISKCON Boise temple.

After bleeding through our stomach to help to get the Saturday morning class, weekly review class, going, we had the experience that it was one of the most delightful times in our life.

Then, by Krsna's, arrangement we took off for six weeks of travel with very difficult contact with ISKCON Boise.  We were amused to see what was going to happen.

Personally we had been in airplane, auto, airport from 5.30AM Tuesday until the present, and we were not maintaining our Morning Srimad Bhagavatam class perfectly, because "morning" kept changing hour to hour, but we did do daily reading first. With our feet halfway on the ground we were strong in going to the local class.

Thus we heard Vaisesika Das' class. Bhadri-narayana Swami's class and today we give the morning class with Badri and Bhakti-caru Swami et al present.

Srinivasa Das took advantage of our efforts to communicate and made his own struggle and got our India phone number and then we had a conversation. In 99% good humor he gave his impression of the class last Saturday.

We tried to text, but it failed, and then sent by Skype greetings to Ananta-rupa, Radhika-Raman and Balabhadra Das', asking for their impressions about the class.

We discussed the situation in our Temple in Boise with Vaisesika Das, Badri-Narayana Swami and taking those discussions into mind here is our perspective now. Please respond.

No one in Boise, or even in the material world, has much claim to be perfect and not admit mistakes and offer obeisances to intiated ISKCON devotees and work out practical management problems in organizing Daily SB class.

Big issue was that Srinivasa Das had not "set up" tele-conferencing facility even though Ananta-rupa Das told HpS that Srinivasa should take full charge of organizing the class.

ARD did tell us that in the course of our discussions, once in passing, but we failed to work it out with SND in the rush of leaving for travel. Please forgive our mistake.

ARD got angry and walked out of the class. SND got angry and walked out of the class. Murari Das just watched them get angry and then went home.

Upendra Das wasn't there because he had gone to India. He should have let the Temple President know that and the Temple President could have told SND, organizer, and everyone.

Gopal wasn't there because he went with his new baby to Logan to see Radhika, but they both could have come online to attend their Temple class and when the class didn't come on line they could have phoned the Temple President and he could have referred them to the Weekly Review Class Organizer, SND etc.

Ha! Ha! Ha!     Get's complicated when you go to administrative level.

Did Balabhadra Das and Kama-gayatri Devi Dasi try to log on? Has the Weekly Daily Srimad Bhagavatam Review Class been announced to the congregation and have they been encouraged to join the program?

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ho. Ho. He. He.

Our general impression is that unless we get this WDSBRC going we are all going to birth in ISKCON life after life until we solve this problem.

Make it work!

Get it recorded on Startmeeting. com and we will listen to the classes and send our comments.

[Whine!  Growl! Complaint!]

Puff and nonsense!

We are all PhDs, CEOs, Earthly Gods. If anyone of us can't get us (HpS, Monkey, Piggy et al) a recording of a WDSBRC then we curse you to have more more opulence than Indra, to be more beautiful the Miss America, and take birth again in ISKCON life after life. 

Of course, our curses are probably useless, but we really have no other aspiration than to hear recordings of the WDSBRCs.

Thank you all for your kind attention.

We wait to hear the opinions of others and will post them here.

Jaya!   Srila Prabhupada!

Agtt Assembled Devotees!

Hare Krsna.

Our equipment is working very well. We have an India chip for this phone with some Internet access. Our eyes are failing. Our right hip aches. Our respiration tends to shallow. Badri-Narayana Swami is in room 4. We are in room 3. He may have to have his right foot amputated.

"We're all gonna die. It's how you live that counts", Conan the Barbarian.

Delhi-Braja visit has been 97.776% complete success. We saw Govinda Deva temple in Brndavana and initiated Rakta Das' nephew as Sita-pati Das. He has been doing very well. Met with Vaisesika Das!

We had long talk with Dr. Kalyan Kumar and excellent Professor-Dean from Harsh's university.

Harsh, Sri hari Das, m. Shyama-sakhi DD, Indradyumna Das, Tungavidya Devi Dasi Vraja basi, Delhi and Vrndavana devotees, Yuddhisthira Govinda Das, Jagamohana have all been of incredible help.

O.K. more Japa and fly to Ujjain for Ministry of Education meetings.

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja

All Glories to A.C. Prabhupada, Sripada Maharaja

All Glories to Gouranga Mahaprabhu and Goura Bhakta Vrnda Ki Jay!

Dandavat Pranam,

Please accept my humble obeisances unto Guruji Maharaja's padmacharan that due to failler of internet in our office, I could not open my mails. Today only I could see Guruji's letter. Dr. Darda D. D. went to Radhakunda to participate Tirobhav programme of Sripada Maharaja (Dr. T.D. Singh) some days ago from Imphal and Dr. Nanda Suta Das also went Radhakunda via Delhi with his wife to participate the same programme. 

We  had decided the Sanmelan with book distribution both the books on the 3rd Nov.  and the number  will be 150 or so with prasadam. Dr. Sarda have a strong desire to stay  Guruji at Imphal ISKCON on the 2nd and 3rd Nov. so in our programme there will be a slight change. Guruji will leave Thoubal on the evening of the 2nd Nov. after prasadam with the Thoubal bhaktas. After the RIMS programme, Guruji will reach Imphal ISCON and on the 3rd the sanmelan and in the morning of 4th leaving Imphal ISKCON for airport.

If any suggeston, please advice us.

Yours fallen servant,

Yamunesvara Das

HpS - Hare Krsna. We are just finishing Delhi - Braja visit. All very successful. We are dying for the right purpose.

Thank you for the news. We joined the Tiro-bhava festival in Vrnadvana temple, the day before the Radha-kinda festival.

Schedule change seems fine.

Also, thank you for your text message to your cellular. We will be out of India, Australia, from 11th - 25th.