"Pada Padma" [KDh-FMP-PC] - Second Initiation Part 3

Hare Krsna guru maharaja. Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. 


Thank you so much for your reply to my last letter. Pyari Mohan Prabhu said that various spiritual masters will be awarding initiation to devotees in Connecticut in a few months. He said that I can sit in the Yajna when those devotees receive initiation but receive the Mantras from you virtually whenever it is possible. Please let me know if this plan is okay, guru maharaja.


Your insignificant servant,

Sugopi Radha Devi dasi


HpS - Jaya!! AgtSP. Paoho. Is the regular arrangement now. Very practical and hope that this practical formality is the next step in your return to your dearmost friend.

We see that there are dangers all along the way.

Yuddhisthira fell victim to a game of dice.

Kumari Kunti fell victim to a celestial visit from the demigods.

Asvatthama to desire for revenge for his hurt feelings when the Pandavas used tricks to kill his father.

Become a great heroine!



"Pada- Padma" [KDh-FMP-PC]: Sri Vyasa Puja Part 2

Hare Krsna Beloved Gurudeva:

AGTSP, PAMHO

It is always very enlightening joining the FMP, that charge our batteries in order to face the day. [With great enthusiasm]


Regarding to your observation in my last letter :

Personally I am going to be involved [or not involved?] actively in the organization if you allow me due to I will be travelling the last week of december to the States I have a family commitment and I will return the same day of your Sri Vyasa puja


CMDD: I did not express myself properly,sorry. I am going to be actively involved in the organization of the VP until December 24th, because on December 25th until January 3rd in the morning I will be in the States. I arrive early in the morning (January 3rd) then I will go straight from the airport to Sta Eulalia.


HpS-ASA: AgtSP!! Thank you, now is clear. Short trip to USA!


The next step is :

With your observations we will have a meeting with Palika, Artd, etc and then start to prepare the program, then write you back for your approval. We are in communication with Sriman Radhika Raman Prabhu, he is very resourceful.


  1. Who are you?? CmDD... what do you want from the program?
  2. Who are we? Just CmDD, Palika Devi Dasi and Art Das are the team to make The Plan? Have PDD and ArtD answered question above? What is there answer? Seems need a few more people in the committee who have answered question one, no?


Our Ekadasi is really purifying

Please send our respects to all the devotees that are with You

Trying to be your disciple

CMDD


HpS - ASA - For us it was great Ekadasi also. Yugala k. D. and MvDD go to work in the Ladies ashrama in Chosika for two weeks! Wonderful. We go on Friday. See you soon. Respects to your Big Sister.

"Pada-padma" [KDh PC] Kaliya esperanzador

3 years, 9 months ago by Cruz Santa in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja 

Todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada 

Todas las Glorias a Usted y a todos los devotos sinceros que forman parte del ejercito de Srila Prabhupada! 


Por favor acepte mis rendidas reverencias. 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

Deseo su salud y energía se encuentren muy bien, muchas gracias por permitirnos acompañarles online, somos felices por estar virtualmente ahí. 


Reflexionando un poco sobre las oraciones de Kaliya y Sus esposas... 


Pienso que Kaliya no es completamente malo, pero estaba siendo arrastrado por su naturaleza venenosa como serpiente. Así, se lastimó a sí mismo y a otros. 


Yo me identifico un poco con él... Porque debido a múltiples factores, soy una persona muy áspera y sin quererlo lastimo a las personas cercanas a mi. (Nunca lo he hecho intencionalmente, pero así resulta) 🦔


Por mucho tiempo intenté liberarme de esa naturaleza, pero fue imposible... Hasta hace casi 2 años, que pude ver con claridad lo mucho que lastimaba a mi Leal compañero, entonces decidí apartarme de él y trabajar sinceramente sobre eso (aunque no sabía cómo hacerlo)... 


—Teniendo el deseo sincero de cambiar y por la misericordia sin causa de nuestro Señor— He pasado años muy difíciles, ha sido como ser pateada una y otra vez a causa de mis errores y palabras... me arrepentí de ellos, pero también aprendí y me rendí implorando perdón. Creo que eso me ha servido para abandonar una buena parte de mi orgullo y arrogancia. Y me ha situado en una nueva posición, parece que ahora me conozco desde una perspectiva más profunda. 


Tal como usted comentó en la clase matutina "yo creía que era una Kshatriya, pero hasta ahora entiendo que soy una mujer"...


Es increíble y vergonzoso que no haya podido ver realidades tan evidentes. Estuve "temporalmente loca". Pero por la misericordia sin causa de Nuestro Señor y Sus devotos siento que poco a poco estoy "volviendo en mi". 


(Ahora ruego para poder reconstruir la relación con mi noble compañero, esperando que él pueda perdonar ese período de locura.) 


Meditando en las oraciones de las Nagapatnis me pregunto... 


Aún cuando actuamos confundidos o arrastrados por la naturaleza material. ¿La misericordia de los vaisnavas puede salvarnos y colocarnos bajo la protección de Sri Krsna? ¿Cómo podemos ser dignos de esas oraciones? Y ¿cuál es la manera en que nosotros debemos rogar por otros? 


[Gurudeva, durante FMP usted canta el Santo Nombre por cada uno de los asistentes y sugiere a los presentes hacer lo mismo. Creo que esas oraciones son las que me han rescatado de la locura en la que estuve por mucho tiempo. Muchas muchas muchas gracias.] 


Por otra parte... Kaliya continuó siendo una serpiente pero ya no estaba contaminado por el veneno y la ira. Entonces, después de abandonar la locura ¿Es posible que pueda liberarme de las malas cualidades (ira, arrogancia, aspereza) aún cuando mantenga la naturaleza adquirida para este cuerpo? 


Guru Maharaja, por favor discúlpeme por ocupar su tiempo con estos detalles, este pasatiempo me brinda esperanza. Muchas gracias por sus misericordiosas instrucciones, guía y protección. 


Su aspirante a discípula 

Karuna-Sakti Devi Dasi 


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Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja


All Glories to Srila Prabhupada


All Glories to you and all sincere devotees who are part of Srila Prabhupada's army!




Please accept my bowed obeisances. 🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️


I wish your health and energy are very well, thank you very much for allowing us to accompany you online, we are happy to be virtually there.

Reflecting a bit on Kaliya's prayers and his wife ...

I think Kaliya is not completely bad, but he was being carried away by his poisonous snake-like nature. Thus, he hurt himself and others.

I identify a bit with him ... Because due to multiple factors, I am a very harsh person and unintentionally I hurt people close to me. (I've never done it intentionally, but that's how it turns out) 🦔

For a long time I tried to free myself from that nature, but it was impossible ... Until almost 2 years ago, when I could see clearly how much I hurt my Loyal companion, then I decided to withdraw from him and sincerely work on that (although I did not know how do it)...

—Having the sincere desire to change and by the causeless mercy of our Lord— I have had very difficult years, it has been like being kicked over and over again because of my mistakes and words ... I regretted them, but I also learned And I gave up begging for forgiveness I think that has helped me to abandon a good part of my pride and arrogance. And it has placed me in a new position, it seems that now I know myself from a deeper perspective.

As you commented in the morning class "I thought I was a Kshatriya, but until now I understand that I am a woman" ...

It is incredible and shameful that I have not been able to see such obvious realities. I was "temporarily insane". But because of the causeless mercy of Our Lord and his devotees, I feel that little by little I am "coming back to myself."

(Now I pray that I can rebuild the relationship with my noble companion, hoping that he can forgive that period of madness.)

Meditating on the prayers of the Nagapatnis I wonder ...

Even when we act confused or carried away by material nature. Can the mercy of the Vaisnavas save us and place us under the protection of Sri Krsna? How can we be worthy of those prayers? And what is the way in which we should pray for others?

[Gurudeva, during FMP you chant the Holy Name for each of the attendees and suggest that those present do the same. I think those prayers are what have rescued me from the madness I was in for a long time. Thank you so so so much.]

On the other hand ... Kaliya continued to be a snake but was no longer tainted by poison and anger. So, after giving up madness, is it possible that I can free myself from bad qualities (anger, arrogance, harshness) even while maintaining the acquired nature for this body?

Guru Maharaja, please excuse me for occupying your time with these details, this pastime gives me hope. Thank you very much for your merciful instructions, guidance, and protection.

Your would-be disciple,

Karuna-Sakti Devi Dasi


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AgtSP!!! Paoho. So, so, many stories in the Bhagavatam: Vidura, Dhrta rastra, Kaliya, Daksa... As we go on reading we can see the ones that give us special advice.

NoI 6 describes Uttama adhikari still has these externally bodily and psychological faults, but if we look internally he and his externally situation are perfect. We can connect our faults to Krsna. Arjuna was a passionate man, but he was able to connect it all with Krsna. Otherwise the characteristics may remain but they become so superficial that they bother no one. They just act as a welcome reminder that we have to finish our term in prison completely and get out of this strange prison dress.

O.K?

Thank you for you continuous effort and now your next efforts. Draupadi, Kunti, they were no less heroes than Arjuna or Bhisma, no?

[URGENT] Would love to get access to NOD Zoom class

3 years, 9 months ago by pnd in Hot Topics

Hare Krishna Dear Gurumaharaja,


Just seen your tweet about zoom class, so sending info:

x x x


Please add me to the group if possible.


Your servant Prahlad Nrsimha das



HpS - He says that they agreed with the students to keep them private but he will send a copy. 😐


HpS - We were dragged into Damodara astaka and didn't hit the send key for this!! Here it is.

Raganuga Bhakti and Manipuri Vaisnavism

All glories to Srila A.C. Prabhupada, Bhakti Svarupa Sripad Maharaja and Goura Bhakta Vrinda.

 

Hare Krsna,

HpS Guru Maharaja! Dandavat Pranam.

 

Please accept my humble obeisanses unto the Padmacharan of Guruji Maharja that the following is the comments of Prabhu Partha Sarathi Das on Manipuri Goudiya system of Shakhi-Manijari forwarded today.

 

 

“All Glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gouranga,

 

H. H. Respected Swamijee,

        Please accept my humble pranam, Sriman Yamunesvara Prabhu has shown to me the comment of Sriman Haridas Gosvami on the Guru-Param-Para of the Manipuri Vaisnavism, which seems to be quite remote from the subject under discussion. I have nothing to comment on the remarks given by a sannyasi on his own accord. However, as I belong to the old traditional devout Manipuri Vaisnava family, I feel it obliged to say a few words he has not mentioned at all in his remarks, for the pleasure of my Spiritual Master and other vaisnavas.   

 

        To my mind, instead of giving his personal observation on the Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism, it would have been more appropriate for him to have focused on the principles of Manipuri Vaisnavism as enunciated in the scriptures, which have been followed by each and every vaisnava under the strict supervision of their respective Spiritual Masters coming down through disciplic succession right from the days of Rajarsi Bhagyachandra (1776) till this day. Their presiding deity is Lord Sri Govinda currently being enshrined (worshiped) in the Mani Mandir of the palace of Manipur, Imphal.

 

        Though I have very little knowledge about his background of Manipur Vaisnavism, I regard Sriman Haaridas Goswami as a simple and humble sannyasi. So far as I know, he is a Manipuri devotee born in Assam and brought up there. I never expect such a remark on Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism, which may hurt the sentiment of Srila Prabhupada and Sri B.S. Damodara Swami, who were the great exponents of Manipuri Vaisnavism. Srila Prabhupada spoke highly of the Manipuri Vaisnavism and commented that Manipur was a great Vaisnava Kingdom and its vaisnava culture needs to be revived for the welfare of the humanity, as revealed in the purport of the Bhgagavatam (9.22.32). In view of this, the remarks on the Guru-Param-Para of Manipuri Vaisnavism is quite irrelevant and uncalled for, from a sannyasi like him who belongs in the ISKCON family, which is to be treated as a great aparadha (sin) to his Spiritual Master, B.S. Damodara Swami as well as Srila Prabhupada. However, may all the merciful Lord Sri Govinda always protect him for his innocence and ignorance.

 

        

As desired, for information of Swamijee, I am sending details of the Spiritual Masters coming down through disciplic succession, they are - Lord Sri Krishna - Sri Krishna Caitanya – Sri Gadhadhara Pandit – Sri Loka Natha Swami – Sri Narottama Das Thakur – Sri Ganganarayan Chakravarti – Sri Nidhirama Chakravarti – Sri Kunjabihari Das – Sri Ram Gopal Vairagi – Sri Rupa Pramananda Goswami – Sri Rajarsi Bhagyachandara – and his successive disciple so on and so forth, which are in the records of the history of Manipuri Vaisnavism and its Guruparampara, compiled by great Manipuri writer Late Sri Koijam Brajabihari Singh of Thangmeiband.

 

        One special and unique feature of the Manipuri Vaisnavism, as distinct from others, is that, our approach is indirectly direct, that is, no vaisnava devotee of Manipur is allowed to approach Lord Sri Krishna, direct but through His consort, all merciful Radharani. Radharani is non-different from Krishna. Krishna is the origin of Radharani. Because of this, another name of Radharani is known as Krishna Swarupini. Radharani is the origin of all the Lakshmis including 16,108 Maharanis of Dwarika and Gopis of Vrindavana. So Radharani is known as the Swarva Laksmi Mayi Angsini. As such Gopies are non different from Radharani. Therefore, under the Manipuri Vaisnavism, vaisnaava devotees are allowed to approach Krishna through Radharani, Radharani through Sakhis, Sakhis through Manjari. Shakhis and Manjaris are all Gopis. Under the Manipuri Vaisnavism, at the time of initiation of one devotee, the Spiritual Master should explain the significant of the Spiritual Master and necessity for approaching Krishna through one of the Shakhi or Manjari. And accordingly, the Spiritual Master, on the day of the initiation of a devotee, he should give the name of the Sakhi or Manjari along with his initiated name, through whom he should chant Hare Krishna Mahamantra on the japas at least 5 rounds of chanting, three times a day (tri-sandhya) in the morning, in the noon, and in the evening, without fail. Under this strict system of Manipuri Vaisnavism, I was given initiation by my Spiritual Master (Purohit) of my clan in the late forties when I was thirteen years old. I was also made known the name of the Sakhi through whom I pray to and worship Lord Sri Krishna, along with my initiated name. All these should be kept strictly confidential.


        One more important thing to be noted about Rajarsi Bhagyachandra is that he is illiterate; he can neither read nor write. But with the blessings of Lord Sri Govinda, he is endowed with the gifted in-born talent of intelligence and memory, like Maharisi Veda Vyas, son of Parasara Muni. Vyasdeva could learn all the Vedas from his father Parasara only by hearing once for all. Once he hears, it never goes out of his memory. Likewise, though illiterate, Rajarsi Bhagyachandra, whatever he hears from his Spiritual Master Rupa Paramanand Goswami, it never goes out of his memory. Rupa Paramand Goswami narrated all the contents of all the 90 chapters of the 10th Canto, with special emphasis on the Rasa Panchadhaya. King Bhagyachandra was fully motivated and specially attracted to the transcendental beauty of the Rasa Lila of the Gopis with Sri Krishna and could relish the nectarean divine rasa (taste) to his heart’s content. As a result of it, he could produce the world famous Maharas which was staged on the full moon night of the month of Kartika (Nov-Dec) 1779 and Nata-Sankirtana describing the nectarean pastimes of Sri Krishna in the Vraja-Vrindavan.

 

        King Bhagyachandra choreographed the Maharasa, the great circular Rasadance (Raslila) of Lord Sri Krishna along with Gopies, based on the Rasa Panchadhyayas of Srimad Bhagavatam 10th Canto (from 29th to the 33rd Chapters) showing highest devotional touch ever shown by the Gopies to the lotus feet of Lord Sri Krishna. He further designed the newest form of classical Sankirtana (congregational chanting of the Harinama Mahamantra depicting the Vraja Kahani, the nectarean pastimes of Lord Krishna in Vrindavan, performed by a group of singers through their graceful body movement. This type of congregational chanting is known as Nata-Sankirtan. Nata means actors who depicts Vraja Kahani (pastimes of Lord Krishna in Vrindavana through their melodious voice and acting with gradual and graceful body movement.

This is the world famous devotional classical Sankirtana form available till this day in the world. Maharasa and the Nata Sankirtana are the two greatest contributions of Rajarsi Bhagyachandra in the Vaisnava Culture of Manipur.

 

        I have made this letter a bit long unnecessarily which may give Swamiji a little trouble to read.

 

        Hare Krishna,

To                                                               In the service of Lord Sri Krishna

Srila Hanumat Presaka Swami Maharaja             Your fallen servant,

 

Partha Sarathi Das  


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Hanumatpresaka Swami,

Please accept my humble respects. You know that I love Manipur and Manipuri Vaisnava culture. You presentation was very concise and very nice. I have read some other books on the history of Manipuri culture, one was by a former Member of Parliament whom was a little famous. Maybe you know of whom I am talking.

I would have to know a lot more detail about the Parampara of Manipur to make any comments about the detailed practices. I did not see Haridas Swami's letter, so I do not know what his comments were.

Since ISKCON and Manipuri Vaisnavas, as you have so nicely described, are both in Parampara from Narottama Das Thakura then there should be points of agreement on his teachings in both of our traditions.

Specifically we are coming Param para from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaura kishora Das Babaji and Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta tradition.

Of course, we also approach Krsna though Radha but also through Balarama in some cases. Then we also approach Radha through the Sakhis, specifically though Lalita whom we understand has incarnated in Gaura lila as Srila Svarupa Damodara, the personal secretary of Lord Caitanya. Lalita we approach though Rupa and Rati Manjaris et al, whom we understand to have incarnated in Gaura-lila as Rupa, Sanatana, Raghunatha Das Goswami et al.

So, in general Rupa Manjari can be accepted by someone such as Yamunesvara as their Manjari leader.

As established by Srila Bhakti siddhanta Sarasvati and then Srila Prabhupada, this internal connection and cultivation in Manjari Raga anuga is only something that is practically comprehensible when one on a liberated platform.


Adau sraddha, sadhu sanga, bhajana kriya, anartha nivritt, ruci... (BG As It Is 40.10 purport).


Of course, with second initiation in ISKCON we can consider that one is liberate to the level of Brahman realization ie. There IS a spiritual, eternal, all pervasive reality. Then with Sannyasa or Goswami initiation we expect that the devotee is realizing the deity in His paramatma feature, the Lord of the heart, present in everyone giving specific instruction.


So, in our Parampara we do not give Raganuga initiation until the student has come to this platform of Sannyasa. In the Nectar of Devotion Srila Prabhuapada specifically deprecates, following Srila Bhakti siddhanta Saravati the Siddha pranali initiation which makes this Manjari Raganuga Bhakti initiation while the student is in a very neophyte stage which can cause severe damage to their spiritual progress.


It is as you mention something confidential and Srila Prabhupada can give it being physically present or not. One has to be on the platform above bodily consideration, in complete accord with his Diksa guru and the Parampara.


Is this O.K.?


One does not have to take Sannyasa to be a Goswami. It is a meaningful formality but ladies, Grhasthas all can and eventually must come to the level of Goswamis informally before considering Raganuga Bhakti.


Rupa Goswami gives great details of all these things in Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu and Srila Prabhupada gives us perfect access through Nectar of Devotion, and in turn all of the teachings of Narottama Das Thakura come through the BRS.


Nectar of Instruction, Upadesamrta, give an expert summary, and in turn some esteemed devotee such as ourselves of Yamunesvara Das can read even the first text and evaluate his level of development toward Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan, Krsna and Manjaris.


Is O.K? We can make practical progress! ? Hope to get to Manipur for Kartika next year.

Thank you so much. Is very, very satisfy to communicate with you. Hope we can do it eternally with the guidance of H. H. B. S. Damodara Swami.


Pankanjaña NOD CLASS

3 years, 9 months ago by candra108_mukhi in Calendar Development

Hare Krishna Beloved Gurudeva:

AGTSP PAMHO 🙏

I just saw your tweet.

Please send me the link of the zoom class for NOD


Thanks in advance

CMDD


HpS - He says that they agreed with the students to keep them private but he will send a copy.