Reflexiones desde la perspectiva Administrativa

11 years, 11 months ago by jayanta in Sankirtana / Temple Activity Reports

Querido Gurudev: Pamho. TgSP y anugas.

Sí, ésta conversación puede ser interesante para muchos devotos. Llevo casi 14 años en administración España (Nacional y Local). Pienso que tenemos buenas normas (democracia).

Todos los devotos pueden participar en las decisiones si reúnen estos requisitos:

.- 16 rondas hare Krisna hare rama

.- 4 principios regulativos ( no carne, no pescado, no juegos, no drogas, etc)

.- Aceptar autoridad GBC

.- Leer los libros de Bhaktivedanta Swami

.- Hacer algún servicio en armonía con autoridades locales (Templo) o tener un Centro de Predica propio.

Todos los devotos que hagan esto pueden elegir y ser elegidos cargos. (Los cargos se renuevan a los 4 años normalmente). Así que todos pueden participar de la dirección del Yatra. No hay ningún tipo de exclusión.

Los devotos que no se  ajustan a esto pueden participar con sus opiniones pero no pueden decidir (votar). Pienso que es un sistema bueno, aunque también puede mejorar.

Estoy de acuerdo con usted que primero son las relaciones vaisnavas y después  los arreglos administrativos. Para tener relaciones vaisnavas buenas tenemos que volvernos buenos vaisnavas (no es tan fácil): Buen Japa, 4 principios estrictos, mucha lectura vedas (libros de Prabhupada), mucho sacrificio, mucha obediencia  a devotos expertos ( gurus o prabhus), etiqueta vaisnava, etc.

Los maha-bhagavatas tienen relaciones muy amorosas y entre ellos  ( con lagrimas y muchas emociones), y relaciones muy misericordiosas con los demás; los devotos buenos (madhyama) tienen relaciones muy buenas entre ellos, son muy correctos y ayudan mucho a las personas y devotos sinceros, y a los envidiosos procuran evitarlos ( a veces echarlos). Los devotos neófitos no sabemos relacionarnos bien ni entre nosotros ni con los demás, no podemos distinguir quien es devoto y quien no lo es y vemos muchos errores en todo.

Los arreglos administrativos nos pueden ayudar a situarnos en un sistema social para que vayamos progresando en nuestro desarrollo vaisnava, forzándonos a permanecer en nuestra posición natural y circunstancial. Nuestro bhajan ( rondas, principios, etc) define nuestro compromiso con Prabhupada  y su Misión Misericordiosa (ISKCON). Si nuestro bhajan es de mucha calidad lo normal es que nuestro compromiso sea muy fuerte, porque nos volvemos mas humildes, mas agradecidos y también mas misericordiosos.

Esta es mi propia experiencia (no es absoluta) en los años que llevo practicando y haciendo servicio administrativo en iskcon.

No quiero hacer las cartas muy largas. Dejo esta reflexión aquí. En la próxima hablaré del amor desde la perspectiva administrativa (que también la hay). Cuando considere que mis intervenciones son muy largas o muy continuas  me lo dice y rectifico.

Gracias Gurudev por la ayuda que nos presta inspirándonos, desde su posición, a tomarnos en serio este maravilloso proceso.

Ss

Jayanta das

              HpS - ASA -  Jaya!    La presencia de Srila Prabhupada como persona en ISKCON es algo que podemos sentir personalmente, no?       Pienso su carta es muy informativa para los leyentes.    Que pasa con du salud, columna dorsal!!!??

Taking my degree in Education

11 years, 11 months ago by Patrak das in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare krsna Dear Gurudeva...

all glories to Srila Prabhupada and U!!!   _______'o__    PAMHO

here we are again... how are U???  

we are ok.. my doctor told me i might be a special case cause all tests are ok despite all the pills i am taking for so many years...

we read DTC everyday and translate it into spanish for others and share it on a facebook group....

16R, 4P, MA, reading SB and BG are going well. we are more strict on that now. our service to deities in temple and at home are helping a lot... association with devotees very essential for us...

Work is ok... just 4 hours a day... cooking while listening classes or kirtan... prasadam for a pious family...

we found a very good university where we can get a degree in education in just 3 years...  we just have to go 2 days a week... it is a extension program....  the degree they give is recognized in all pontificia universities in the world....next month we have an interview with them... hope they accept us....

i still want to do something with nimsar... so if we can get this degree is ok.....

thanks a lot for all your support... it helps a lot

your servant

Patrakito Das Monkey Warrior!!!!   <img alt="" src="http://hps.monkeywarrior.com/sites/all/libraries/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/38.gif" title="" />

              HpS ---------->>>>>.  Jaya!!!!!!!!                       Srila Prabhupada is so happy with such efforts, no?   Thousands of devotees staying pure and then Krsna can use them as he wants to use them.  Think the realy thing is to see who will actually be your teachers.  It is the person that gives the education not the system, no?      Let us know how it goes?   Are LOB's available from the BBT Peru????

From Valparaiso, Chile

11 years, 11 months ago by Ignacio González in Personal Sadhana Reports

All Glories to Sri Sri Gouranga Nityananda
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada
All Glories to H.H. Hanumatpresaka Swami

Please accept my most humble obeisance

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja! I hope that this letter find you with a good health and as comfortable as it could be. My name is Ignacio González, I ´m from Valparaiso and it has been a long time that I haven´t write to you.

         HpS - ASA -  AGTSP!!!    !!     Is so nice to hear from you Ignacio.  We remember so many things about you!!

I apologize for that but I have been working as a biology teacher, doing my thesis on nature of science, working on the professional practice, doing the programs at the new nama hatta in Valparaiso, arranging things for the conferences for October and also arranging things for my marriage, all of that without counting that I´m a father of a one year boy.

          ASA - Ignacio el Super- Hero!

A lot! That’s the kuruksetra for this semester!! The Bhagavad-Gita has been a good book, sometimes I really want to quit but I know that we have to solve this discontinuities of time.  We have been lucky because a lot of good devotees are interested and try to help us, and we really need their help.

I have been following the four principles, chanting 16 rounds per day and worshiping the deities every Sunday. The thing is that it´s all on an intellectual level, I know that this is the path and that I my efforts have to be done to achieve this… but how can I be more attach to Krsna? I really don´t know. I have been trying to do acts of trust and have been working a little bit.

Other thing, I have been willing to be your formal disciple for some time now. I have been following the 4 principles for six months, chanting 16 rounds for maybe 3 years and doing continues service for a year. Would you accept me as your formal disciple?

           HpS - Jaya!       I am just an instrument of Srila Prabhupada who is just a ....     If you are following everything for 6-months they you can be a  ----  FORMAL ASPIRANT --- !    Jaya!        SIx months more and if you are ready to following the life of Yoga forever then  ---- HARINAMA DIKSA  ---                               In the beginning we don't get much taste.  Just relief from suffering, slavery to drugs etc, and our life starts to become auspicious in every way.   Yes, by the mercy of Lord Caitanya we do get some causeless mercy, but mostly is intellectual like you say and the real, practical aspect is that we really can follow the four principles etc.                  You need a letter of recomendation from Amara-gauranga Das.

How is your morning worship, program.  It is a Requirement set by Srila Prabhupada. Without morning program our Japa is like 15% effective!!!

It sounds like you will have great success as you get this basis to your efforts.  It sounds like you have a Karma of 50 story tall building but until you get a solid basis under it it can, will, collapse to zero.

16-4- 4AM, Kirtana, Deity, SB.           Can be simple.   Early to bed, early to rise.   Next letter.  Of course, these all have content for everyone!!                Thank you so much for your years of austerity. You must have been doing this for lifetimes.....

It´s not much that I can offer you, but I will do my best to satisfy you.

Your lousy servant…

Ignacio

16-4 vrata - July 4th 2014

11 years, 11 months ago by Bhakta Reilly in Other

Hare Krishna Hanumat Presaka Swami Maharaja,

Please accept my humble obeisances to your apple blossom feet.

            HpS - ASA -  Jaya!   AgtSP.  Please accept our obeisances at your temporary but actual Dhama vasi feet!

All glory to Srila Prabhupada.

Alright maharaja, sounds like a good deal; the best deal actually. I'll do 16-4 to July 4th, 2014 next year. (I certainly hope you dont mean Independance Day this year maharaj! I definitely don't think I'm ready yet...) When It becomes tempting to eat those 'vegeterian' fajita wraps with questionable egg content at the grocery store because I haven't eaten anything at all in day(s); I'll remember your words and my vow. As well as brahmacarya. Not sure if it will last too long though, cause in the age of Kali people make vows and break them soon afterward. I'll keep sending letters to update more often! (over 365 inches to crawl..)

           HpS - ASA - AGTSP.   Yesssssss....  We starten with little steps, Bobba.   Monkey and Piggy have a real tendency to Sherlock Holmes movies, so we are going to just see if they can keep there nose out of that stuff until JULY 4th 2013.       So, all we askin is that you be their (our) partner in austerities until then.  After that we can consider more vows.   Maybe to Janmastami!!!!!!!!      This is tough.   Facing little, practical obstacles and knocking them down by Balarama's grace and with a clear recollection of what is our ultimate goal.   I just hope to be an eternal asociate of Srila Prabhupada in his Sankirtana and not be a burden to him and learn from Jayananda, Hansadutta, B. S. Damodara Swami et al.....

I should have started my vow the moment I got your reply, but my mind is too much of a "We'll start Tommorow!" sort of convincing arguer. My mind + senses have held the reign in my body like republics + democrats!

Visiting Life in Sridham Mayapur was very nice those few months. It's the ideal vedic city in the works! (by some great mercy) We got an apartment house on the inside Grhastha-housing, everyday nice vegetables, ghee, raw milk to serve to our Deitys. Prabhupada Ghat at the Ganga was a 5 minute walk away. My little brother Ryan became enthralled in Service at the Radha-Madhav mandir with the Pujari's many times (he's actally the real ideal devotee, maharaja). He brought back 3 Radha-Krsna deitys, 2 ladoo-gopals, 2 more JBS sets, Panca-Tattva deitys, Another Goura-Nitai + Nrsimhadeva. I was/am a bit worried. I think we definitely don't fit the Standard for RK deity's, or all these forms of the lord at all. But my little brother + sister are so attached to them, dressing, some bathing, Arati, Puja + kirtan. So.. what to do about offenses? lol. The cows there are so intelligent, it's like they're spiritual. All the Dham-vasi's actually, -- yes, a lot of the Villagers are descendants of Lord Chaitanya's dear friend Chand-Kazi, so I personally saw no pig residents-- they were probably there somewhere though! I made many new devotee friends, I got to help distribute Prasadam to residents in Navadwhip, it was Koob-Sundar (very beautiful). As well, I was going to say hare krsna to you when you came to Mayapur, but you seemed really busy; so I didn't want to disturb!

               HpS -   AGTSP.   We saw you I think.  We very very impressed with your intensity.  You should have grabbed us and said, "Hare Krsna Majaraja!"

Actually right now on such sudden very-short-notice me, my brother + sister had to come back to Boise in the US. 20 hours of plane flights. Luckily we find theres a lot of devotee's in disguise when we travel. We had to leave a lot of books + deity's behind in Mayapur to rest. My JBS deity's are always showering mercy on us, even if I neglect them sometimes. Jagganath is often revealing he's always aware in his form to me + my brother Ryan with his mercy towards our seva. Yet as soon as someone asks whats the sikha on the back of our heads, we become chocked up with nervousness about what they think!

           HpS - "Oh, its very interesting.  We are just coming from India.  Our parents have been Yogis forever and we just get involved with them with all the rituals and things. They cut the hair like this like a girl in the West wears a wedding ring or something. It means like we are unmarried boys."

I think we'll be in Boise for a long time, still so much unfinished things in Mayapur with our cows, dogs + items.. my mother is in Europe right now as well. Now I'm battling with my sister over not allowing her to keep Eggs to fry in the house while I have the deity's here. Trying to keep cooking items pure and get some Kirtan going again. 

        HpS - Tell her that if she steals eggs from the hens, cannibals will come and eat her babies when she gets married!    Haw!   Ha!      Hur Ray!

your fallen servant,

Reilly M. Grindle

               HpS - Jaya.   So we <o   >>====>    See you in about two weeks!  3rd of July!

Monkey    -    >>>>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9vL5IVj1PI 

                HpS -  No!!!!!     Evil!!!     Bad Karma!!!!         Will take you to the jungles of Africa in your next birth!    Better...   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-ODN9tkgY    !!!!    Good Monkey!

bhaktin Atenea, Cuerámaro

11 years, 11 months ago by atenea bhaktin in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna querido Hanumatpresaka Swami!
Todas las glorias eternamente sean a Srila Prabhupada!!
Todas las glorias al gran Movimeinto de Sankirtana!
Todas las glorias a Sri Caitanya y Nityananda Prabhu!!
Por favor acepte nuestras humildes y respetuosas reverencias una y otra vez a sus hermosos y cálidos pies de loto.

          ASA - HpS - TlgaSP.    Pfanrh.  No, tenemos pies de loto, aun.  Somos en progresso. Posible somos 87% purificados.  Mas adelante....   87.3%  >    87.47%   >>  .....!

Uuff..por fin pude, había tenido problemas para escribir en el blog (donde va el cuerpo de la carta me aparecía gris y no podía escribir) pero gracias a Krsna, ya pude...

            ASA - Uncle Gismo - Si, Senorita, aveces pasa con nosotros tambien y estamos cambiando de Explorer a otro Browser como Mozilla y funciona.   Tambien posible si toca el "button" abajo que dicen "Disable Rich-text" puede escribir tambien!

Le informo los resultados de la distribución de libros en la maratón de Gurus, en el grupo eramos 6 devotas, gracias a su misericordia éstos fueron:
5 492 libros pequeños
502 libros medianos 
344 libros grandes
84 BG
Total = 6422 libros distribuídos

                 ASA -        !! !     $% !    INCREIBLE!!   !

Ahora reporte de sadhana:
Levantandonos 3:00 am diariamente, tomando curso de Padapadma en Cuerámaro, Gurudeva es un néctar leer el Srmad Bhagavatam, me siento muy feliz, vamos en el canto 1 capítulo 14.-La desaparición de Krsna. Los domingos tenemos festival con los devotos grihasthas de aquí, y los lunes son de descanso y recreación (: Practicamente todo el día estamos en la finca desde 4:45 am- 8:30 pm (humm..a veces un poco pesado, pero recordamos Su esfuerzo y ejemplo y eso nos da ánimos para seguir entusiastamente). Cantando 18 rondas diarias procurando que sean por la mañana. Leyendo Prabhupada construyó una casa en donde el mundo entero puede vivir.
Queremos tomar serio refugio de Prabhupada a través de sus libros y también de Usted, querido y santo Gurudeva. Escuchando algunas pocas clases que tengo suyas.
Guru Maharaja estamos realizando que la convivencia es todo un arte y la mayor austeridad... ha ha ! Viendo como poco a poco van saliendo anarthas que no conocíamos en nosotros mismos.. puaj !..pero hay que seguir limpiando el corazón.
En otros temas, tenemos una pregunta:

Son los mismos pasatiempos en Goloka que en Gokula ?!

             ASA - En Gokula, tierra, las Gopis tienen esposos y hay demonios, pero en Goloka, cielo, solamente piensa que tiene esposos y solamente hay rumoures de demonios.

Por último, rogando nos dé el preciado refugio de Sus Pies de loto  [Lodo terapeutico]
Por favor disculpenos todas las ofensas que pudimos haber cometido, orando ya no hacerlo más.
La aspirante a la devoción más neófita de todas, bhaktin Atenea.

               ASA - HpS -  Bien oir de Vd.  Es casi cierto estuve Vd un Vaisnava en su vida anterior.  Posible un miembro de ISKCON  ....   Adelante.  Adelante!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaj

11 years, 11 months ago by Gopal C Biswas in Other

Hare Krsna Respected Guru Maharaj,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.

                 ASA - Oink!    AGTSP....   

    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    All glories to Guru parampara.

    This letter is answer to your earlier letter. Where you wanted to know with whom, we
    report/interact in the Local temple.

    While in Pune Temple - we report H. G. Balaram Hari Das. And on phone we
    report/communicate to H. G. Gopendra Das, ISKCON, Vrandavan.

    We discuss with both of them, H. G. Gopendra Das, ISKCON, Vrandavan is very senior.
    We call him as per queries.

    Some time, we discuss with other senior B'chari in local temple. But Mainly we
    communicate with H. G. Gopendra Das, ISKCON, Vrandavan on phone and H. G.
    Balaram Hari Das ISKCON, Pune.

    Thank you, Guru Dev.

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

                HpS - ASA - Jaya.   Gopendra Das is many years in Vrndavana???   I probably know him by sight if he is.    Where is he from?   How did he meet Prabhupada and become a devotee????