Question - subtle principles

11 years, 8 months ago by pnd in Hot Topics

Hare Krishna Dear Gurumaharaja,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

In your last report you mentioned:

Four principles gross AND subtle.

I would like to know what person can do to avoid subtle breaking of principles (e.g. lusty thoughts)?

Your servant Prahlad-nrsmha das

              HpS - AGTSP.  paoho.  Is so nice to get your association, Mr. Web-master. Thank you so much for this Blog. We get constant comments that people read the letters and for us it is only possible way to maintain good communication!  Thank you.

".....what person can do to avoid subtle breaking of principles (e.g. lusty thoughts)?" - In some respects NOTHING!

We heard that Kavi-chanda Swami asked Prabhupada when he was a b'cari, how can I avoid thinking about illicit sex, and Srila Prabhupada responded that because of the birth he had taken [we have taken] he [we] will not be able to stop thinking about illicit sex, but if we engage in devotional service we will be able to tolerate the agitation.

So, that is one aspect. We Western dogs will have these thoughts up to the end of our life, but then there is good chance they will be washed away by the rage-ing river of death.

Another aspect is that we can certainly decrease them by Sato-vrtteh (NOI 3), following the Sadhana of the previous Acharyas. During Mangala arati is less likely to think of these things and if we condition our mind with Sattvik devotional practices...  BooP! .. It will think of other things.

The whole process, all verse of SB... are the answer to the question in one sense.

1) Tolerate and go on.  2) Keep good life to reduce.   3) Don't 'entertain' them when they come.
If we have thoughts of having sinful relations with men, women, animals, trees....  then don't entertain the thoughts. "Oh, hello, lusty thought, please sit down in this nice chair. Have a cigar and some brandy. Let me talk with you, See you, Enjoy you, Invite your relations".
Chant loudly, engage in service and the unwanted guest will go away (sooner or later).

O.K.

Guess we see you in India soon!

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[How long it take you to buy Audi?]

Respuesta desde chile

11 years, 8 months ago by Bhaktin Fernanda L. in Personal Sadhana Reports

AGTSP!

               ASA - Jaya!!! Sin el, no KC en Chile, EEUU ...

Hare Krsna querido Gurudev, mis reverencias sinceras ...

               ASA - Nos es igual.

Disculpe por demorar en responder, con respecto a lo que me escribió en la última carta, ....pasatiempos podria escribir algo, pero consejos para mejorar el sankirtan estoy a años luz de darle, pero usted es tan humilde y sencillo, que me dice eso a mi... en realidad lo mismo le iva a pedir yo a usted porque me esta costando jajaja...

...no me suceden cosas muuy misticas o fantásticas.....pero me llamó la atención una vez, en que nadie me paraba....y yo ya me estaba desanimando, y hasta con ganas de irme, pero me intentaba alentar pensando " acuérdate, que estos libros ya tienen dueño, sólo trata de encontrarlos..."trataba de recordar lo que he leído o escuchado de los devotos para poder predicarle a mi mente.....en eso paso un rato, y me paro al fin un joven, entonces le mostre los libros, y el me dijo que era ateo...pero que aun asi le parecian interesantes los libros...y se llevo uno pequeño....antes de irse me dijo textualmente " gracias por encontrarme"....

 tambien otro dia estaba tratando de distribuir libros, y cerca habia un almacen, afuera del almacen estaba un tipo que parecia estar medio borracho pero lo dejaban estar ahi porque ayudaba a limpiar los vidrios del local, derrepente se me acercó, y me pregunto qué estaba haciendo, entonces yo le mostré los libros, y me dijo : " yo ya conozco estos libros....en algun momento los tuve cuando fui mas joven....pero este plano terrenal es demasiado fuerte y no pude con eso...despues glorificó los libros reconociendo su importancia...y me dijo que podia dejar el carrito con libros en el local porque él mismo cuidaria que no los robaran....al final en agradecimiento le regale un librito.

- Gurudev tambien queria aprovechar la instancia de contarle que nos ofrecieron crear una ONG para el festival de sankirtan, con el fin de tener un respaldo y apoyo de parte del gobierno para continuar y mejorar....yo no se mucho acerca de eso (me tengo que informar más) pero queria saber a usted le parece una buena idea? o no ?

 disculpe que esta vez mi carta fue mas larga. 

se despide agradecida su aspirante a sirvienta Fernanda.

                HpS - ASA --- Muchas gracias sus pasatiempos!!     Si estamos desanimado en la Karma-yoga, haciendo Sankirtan por que me gusta, podemos tomar como misericordia de Krsna empujar nosotros en el nivel de Jnana-yoga. Eso es mas estable. En esta nivel estamos trabajando clarificar nuestra inteligencia, "Por que voy a ir en Sankirtan?".

Si no hay buen razon, no va!

Usualment para y leer un poco de los libros y tiene fuerza quedar en Sankirtana. Los libros distribuiron sus mismos. Y por que solo!  Siempre es bueno pastorear las vacas con Krsna y muchos mas Gopas!

Si, una ONG o otro organizacion puede ser bien. ISKCON como religion y otro como organizacion cultural. Necesita como 2-5 mas personas con la misma pasion, vision como Vd. y puede hacer. Si, necesita hablar con quien que conocen que tipo de organizacion es bueno en Chile. Hable mucho de eso con Arjuna y Rodrigo.

Que pasa con su Pareja Divino, novio, esposo.?

Su Papa?    O.K.  Mas cuentas de Sankirtan!!

Hare Krisna

11 years, 8 months ago by purnamasidevidasi in Personal Sadhana Reports, DTC, Other

Querido Gurudeva: Por favor, acepte mis humildes reverencias.

Todas las glorias para Srila Prabhupada.

Cómo está? Se encuentra mejor?

              HpS - Jaya!  AGTSP.  pfanrh.   Muchas gracias su associacion cada manana en taller de Japa! Adelantando juntos guarantizado!!!    Nuestra salud, energia esta bien. Un diente necesita u x-ray, los pies poco hinchados pero mejor de antes. Vamos a morir, pero mantener el instrumento apto para predica del manera mejor hasta la fin, no?

Mi esposo Jayanta está bien. Trabajando aunque sigue teniendo algunos dolores. Gracias a la misericordia de Krisna, cuento en esta vida con su asociación y ejemplo; un ejemplo marcado, sobre todo por su gran fe en el proceso, en Srila Prabhupada, y por su capacidad de ver a Krisna en los momentos menos apacibles. A mí no me resulta tan fácil. El fin de semana pasado estuvimos disfrutando de la asociación de Avesa rupa prabhu y Adi Rasa Prabhu. Realmente me siento muy afortunada de poder asociarme con estos dos devotos. Pasamos tres días con ellos en la casa donde están ahora, en un pueblito de Cáceres, muy cerca del Parque Natural de Monfragüe. Dos ejemplos de sankirtan y servicio, para mi muy importantes. Este domingo iremos a la fiesta del Templo, donde tambien, gracias a Krisna, puedo asociarme con más devotos. Espero que se encuentre mejor cuando reciba este mensaje. Su aspirante a humilde sirvienta, Purnamasi devi dasi

             HpS - Reverencias al Adi y el Avesa!!!!    Y como estan sus hijos?  Cuales son sus cualidades?  Programa para ninos en el templo? Trabajando en escuela Vd? Buscando otro diploma?  -[;D]

Reverencias a Jayanta Das. Pide una carta con sus comprehensiones de Sankirtan ahora!

From Madrid

11 years, 8 months ago by marcos in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare krisna!! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!!

How are you? I hope everything goes well!

I returned from Israel, the trip was an amazing experience. I met very interesting people, and I visited many different places like: el santo sepulcro, monte de los olivos, Nazaret and more!

My plans changed and now im living in the temple of Madrid (this is my second month I started in October, I stayed at temple other times for some days, like three or two days but not to live) , im very happy here! Jivattatva prabhu and Jagamohan prabu thought that for me is better to stay now in Madrid and i think that they are in the correct idea, because I can share much time with different devotees.

Now we live in the temple: Jharikanda, Janardana (devotee from Cuba he is mathematics university professor), Isvara, Balaram (from Nueva Vrajamandala) and me. All are great and live with them is very good and funny.

In a few days we are going to start a course “Iniciación al Bhakti Yoga” this course has a duration of three months and we are going to learn about many different things, I think that its going a very complete program cause some of the students have initiation but they want to do the program to refresh his knowledge.

Im learning to play different instruments (Jagamohan is a great teacher), I read usually the different books of Prabhupada and I help to clean, cook and other activities of the routine.

I feel very happy and comfortable, sometimes my mind disturb me with different topics but when the Japa time at morning arrives all this problems disappear and I can feel good for all the day! I need to trust more in Krisna!!

In these months I have learned that I cant control the future time and I dont know what is going to happen, but I wish to continue here for some months (maybe half year or something more…).

4 regulations good and family and friends ok!!

Some instructions or advices to this new style of life?

Thanks to read the letter!!! HARE KRISNA!!!!

                  HpS - ASA ---  AGTSP!!!    Thank you very much for news. I can't remember you specifically??!!!  Did we talk last time I was in Spain?   Oooof!    Something we can remember, but is nice just to correspond. If you write little often, every couple weeks then we will remember you.

65-years old, Donkey brains (but also meet a LOT of people).

Yes...  we hear so much opportunity for preaching in Israel, but... is there regular morning class in Espiritu Santo!   That is Srila Prabhuapada's REQUIREMENT in ISKCON.

DTC (Th/14) - 5.38PM

11 years, 8 months ago by hps in DTC

A G T S P !

(paoho)))

Is is dark and cold outside. Sunset at 4.30PM. Cars rushing by on 4-lane street out side to go home. Across street is back of a low class shopping mall.

We lost a check for $10,000 today and were attacked by extreme panic. "Aaaaaah!".

We started efforts to compensate for the problem. Went across the other street to our bank, USBank, with Abhiseka, NGD's son. Talked with our Branch Manager, Elizibeth about her cat and farm and wired $10,ooo from NIOS to Goloka Education in Bombay for 150-Sanskrit sets.

The revolution begins.

She put a stop payment on the $10,000 check.

We came back and went through our world of files for the fourth time --and--  finally found the check! We had not even signed it yet as a precaution. It was where it was supposed to be but we thought it was a $200 donation from Dr. Desai and didn't look at the details!

Ooof!

Also did work on our Bhakti Vaibhava, Canto Four Studies. More to do.

We see that we are not "pure devotees" or Rupa goswami. Srila Prabhupada is a pure devotee. We have to make more progress. It is not that we have to work "harder", we have to just work more consciously. It is so simple to just get absorbed in dove-tailing some Karma, typing letters,  in Krsna's service but not stay on the Jnana-yoga or dhyana-yoga, or pure Vaidhi bhakta yoga level.

Ooof.

Old age pushes you to perfection.

Our eyes burn from the screen.

Our breathing is a little congested from old age.

Our feet are a little swollen.

Our neck aches from screen etc.

We have pain in our inguinal ligaments from something.

We have a little indigestion from not honoring Prasadam properly.

Now our right ankle has started to itch.

And it is dark, lonely, and cold here (but the electric heater is making it too hot, but we don't want to get up to go over to adjust it).

And it is 5.48PM... but that is O.K. because now we can go for a quick bath before NGD calls from the Mad House and says he is on the way home. Then we take off in the dark and drive in Rtadvaja Swami's, Mother's car, to NGD home and get a little association with the family and go for our 44-1/2 minute walk. Have two jackets, hat and gloves. We sing Gaura-arati on the drive over. Because of your association we will sing Shayana arati Bhajan on the way back. 12-minute drive.

Except for our little 12' x 12' office the rest of the mobile home is like 50`F. About 10`C. We have another electric heater in the bath room and we turn it on 30-minutes before we go for a bath. It works pretty good.

Floor is still foot burning cold, but water heater is good.

This office is nice because we have our own private cave.
Good internet.

Association of Lord Nrsmha deva and Srila Prabhupada.

Pretty regulated chance to do service. Become more self realized.

We have to learn how to do better Karma yoga. Look for more things that we can dovetail into useful service for Krsna. Won't be the best like Janana--yoga etc. but will be better than sleeping and then we will become more expert and come to more jnana-misra-bhakti yoga!

Jaya!

AGTSP.   paoho and bw!

HARE KRISHNA - Raktaka Das

11 years, 8 months ago by raktak in Other

Respected Guru Maharaj,

Please accept my humble obeisances.  All glories to Srila Prabhupad.

Just came back from the temple after my weekly Friday afternoon cooking, Priya was helping me, we made like 08 items, and plenty.

                  HpS - AGTSP and the Kids? They didn't help!??

After offering, head pujari said that Gaur-Nitai are very happy with the offeringI don't know about that, but whenever I enter the kitchen or do anything important or important, I alway say,"Jay Hanumat Preshak Swami Guru Maharaj, Jai Jagatguru Srila Prabhupad".

             HpS - Mukhan karoti vacalam... !

Yesterday, we had very sweet Prabhupad disappearance day festival, presided over by our local gbc man HH Ramai Swami, he gave a nice class sharing with us Prabhupada's life in a Chronological way.  Your God-brother Abhilash Prabhu came, he said that please apologize from Maharaj on his behalf that he could not come while you were here in Brisbane and then, he gave me a nice flute to give to you.

I am not happy to know that you have been biten by spiders, hope that now you are recovering.  Can you kindly use some kind of mosquito net etc?

             HpS - Hmmmm. We don't know what it was. Is gone now. Basically is like to much pitta and then it pops out some place. We have to  be more and more and more careful of honoring, prasadam, dancing and properly associating as we get older. Old age is a good friend for a devotee, pushes us to become pure devotees. We don't know how much more time we have left. If we don't artificially try to maintain body then it may go quickly, even in a few days! One day!
We have given up.
What Krsna wants, let it happen. We just do our transcendental eternal service to Him.
Who is a Abhilasa Das???  His name sounds so familiar.
This is last letter this evening and then we will write the Kapi dhvaja for you!
Please tell Priya and Kids that they are great heroes for loving you even though you are a Bufalo Headed Punjabi.
Respects to so many devotees in your Yatra. Was so nice to be there
Of course, we go to India 9th Feb - 1st March.

have chanted 12 rounds, still 4 more to go, jai Guruji, HARE KRISHNA.

yours servant,

Raktak Das