Letters to the editor

Querido Gurudev: Pamho. TgSP y sus seguidores fieles.

Espero que se encuentre bien cuando reciba este mensaje y que su entusiasmo por Krisna vaya en aumento.

Sadhana estable y tranquilo. Por el Templo hace tiempo que no vamos, desde la Asamblea General donde fuimos desterrados al bosque de Navalakunda.  No nos sentimos queridos en el Templo y tampoco nos sentimos bienvenidos. Tampoco nos sentimos escuchados. Las autoridades ni tan siquiera se molestan en contestar las cartas o sugerencias.

Desde mi perspectiva, los que no compartimos los puntos de vista de los administradores actuales somos vistos como enemigos y parece que prefieren que no vayamos. Avesa Rupa y Adi Ras  ya no son miembros de ISKCON Madrid y Purnamasi y yo somos miembros no-activos y, de momento, tambien miembros no presentes; Jagamohan tomará una decision cuando vuelva de India. La congregación a quedado mas dividida que antes y yo, despues de 17 años de servicio al Templo me siento como un extraño en el mismo. Todo es por la misericordia de Krisna  aunque puede que eso no signifique que sea el principal deseo de Krisna.

En lo personal estoy mas tranquilo y estoy contento con mi nuevo estatus social.

Sin mas y esperando pase un buen Goura-Purnima se despide

 su aspirante a buen-sirviente

Jayanta das

GOOGLE TRANSLATE:

Dear Gurudev : Pamho . TGSP and his faithful followers.

I hope you are well when you receive this message and enthusiasm for Krishna is rising.

Sadhana stable and quiet . At the Temple you have not come, from the General Assembly where we were banished to the forest Navalakunda . We do not feel loved at the Temple and we are not welcome. Nor do we feel heard. The authorities did not even bother to answer letters or suggestions.

From my perspective , those who do not share the views of the current directors are seen as enemies and seem to prefer not to go . Rupa avesa Ras Adi and are no longer members of ISKCON Madrid and Purnamasi and I are non- active members and , so far, also members not present ; Jagamohan make a decision when I return from India. The congregation to become more divided than before and , after 17 years of service to Temple I feel like a stranger in it. Everything is by the mercy of Krishna but that may not mean that is the main desire of Krishna.

Personally I'm more relaxed and I 'm happy with my new social status.

No more waiting and pass a good Gaura - Purnima goodbye

 Your aspiring servant good -

Jayanta das

HpS - ASA - Jaya. AGTSP. paoho. Honestly I don't know the details of the situation in Madrid. I am not there, but the basic principle is like you say, just work on your own spiritual life 100% and then you will naturally see how to relate to others.
Ultimately it is Krsna, Prabhupada's Temple, so we try to deal with things but we also stay in touch with devotees and the situation in every part of ISKCON in a general sense. When I have problems like this, and I do, then I always remember that Prabhupada says a devotee does not become his enemies enemy. I try to think what I can do to help the situation. If I am right then, I am right and others are just confused. How can I try to help them. That's all I can do.

In even an extreme situation Krsna wanted Draupadi to go through all these problems. He did not try to solve the problem, but he had His plan in the long term.

Reality distinguished from illusion for the welfare of all!

<big>Dear Gurumaharaja,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! All glories to your grace.</big>

<big>In my meditation on gita chapter 12 i ran into a difficulty. Mother Urmila's explanation of the bhakti path in 12.8 - 9 - 10 is that in 10 the focus is on working for Krishna to attain peace, in 9 it is trying to fix the peaceful mind on Krishna (abhyasa-yoga) in order to get the desire for Krishna, and 8 is raganuga (as mentioned by Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur). </big>

<big>If i'm not being karma-yoga-oriented, i find myself on level 10. The idea is that i should work for Krishna. Krishna is my boss. He is the proprietor. My difficulty lies in how i feel towards property. When i worked in the office, i had a computer, which was for me, but not mine. That i could feel as not mine. I had a different relationship with that computer as with household stuff that i have bought with earned money. That does feel like it is mine. Or at least, there is a different relationship. Now my inquiry is this. How can i work in the mood of not being the proprietor if i actually do feel like that? To put it in another way, how do i get to the point of feeling things aren't mine, but Krishna's property. Perhaps i'm overcomplicating simple matters, and all these things can be solved by prayer and Krishna's mercy. </big>

<big>AGTSP - By regular Deity worship. Have Deity of Krsna in your house or Temple and then connect everything with Him. When you buy new clothes put them in front of the Deity and say, "We have these new clothes for your servants, are they correct?".</big>

<big>And He will say, "Little fancy aren't they??"</big>

<big>And you will say, "Yes, its a fact", and take them back and get something a little more appropriate.</big>

<big>The regular process of Diety worship is essential in the neophte and grhastha stages and it works!!</big>

<big>I hope you are doing well, both physically and spiritually.</big>

<big>Your servant,
Raghava-pandita dasa</big>

We so often hear about men and women who get into an informal, accidental relation and then get abandoned and don't know what to do.

Here are some ideas.

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AGTSP paoho I guess the basic principle is that this is Kali-yuga. We are all alone, but we take some kind of artificial, cheating shelter by political co-operation with others sometimes and feel protected.

When we formally took Sannyasa then the real situation actually hit us. At first I was just staying and working in my little cave in the Berkeley Temple, but I could feel the subtle politics, so we started to travel and stay with different devotees around the Bay Area. This is Kuticak and then Bahudak. The stages of Sannyasa were so natural.

Then even that was not full surrender to Krsna so in ~January 1990 we took off on Parivrajack. We had just enough money to go and no more. It was frightening, but we were pretty convinced that Krsna was there. This was our duty. So we did it and one thing after another worked out and we have been traveling all over the world since then, ~1990, with no money or shelter except from Krsna.

At one point we arrived in New York in the snows of Winter and could stay with Professor Sankar Sastri for a few days but we really had no place to go after that. We did not agree with the way the BI or other Temples were doing things and we refused to compromise our principles. We finally decided that if there was no option we would just go sit behind some hand-ball board in a public park and freeze to death in the snow and let our body be found in the Spring.

Then, we got invitation to come again to Peru and it was not a long-term solution but it was a wholesome thing to do and then we expected that Krsna would arrange another engagement after that, but... the basic principle is that we have to be ready to leave our body if there is no service for us here. 

Read the verses about when the Pandavas leave:

http://vedabase.com/en/sb/1/15

So that is the real principle. Unless you are ready to give up your body for Krsna you will always have to make compromises with the Witch and She is delegated with the task of causing your trouble.

As a Sannyasi, yes, we can't get into all the details of this, but a general principle is that a lady or gentlemand only has intimate relations with their husband or wife. If one has intimate relations with someone he is she is his or her husband or wife.

You can think like that. Then the embecile left you to look for some other associate, O.K. She's an embecile, doesn't understand what a great person you are (Ha! Ha!).

And your attachment, lamentation etc. is natural, but what can you do? What can you do when your mother dies?

Well, you can do a lot... your mother is not dead, your "wife" is not dead. You can try to understand what to do for the welfare of all, not just your self, given the current situation.

O.K?

Don't try to be patient more than enthusiastic. Do something nice for everyone.

todas las glorias a srila prabhupada!!

todas las glorias a sri sri guru y gauranga!!

Mi querido guru maharaja hicimos un gran viaje de Buenos Aires a Campina Grande! llegamos sanos y salvos! hoy es un gran dia la aparicion de Nityananda y vamos a tener una fiesta con los devotos! Maharaja Dhanvantari esta muy feliz que este por aqui nuevamente, Devakinandana Prabhu tambien esta por aqui! estamos haciendo un lindo programa matutino. eso es todo ! acepte mis reverencias!

su eterno sirviente Shyamananda Pandit das 

                 HpS - ASA - !!! ! ! ! !              muy, muy bien!            puede ver nuestras noticias del DTC, todo!!! Reverencias a Maharaja! ! ! ! !

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<big>Dear Gurumaharaja,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!</big>

<big>It's been rather quiet here on the letterforum, and i suppose digital stacks piled up during your recent travels. </big>

              ASA (Brown) - AGTSP!!!!   paoho & bw. Yeah, we took a break. It was great. No internet for three weeks. We will probably be like that more and more. Spend more time writing books for you and everyone else. We got 60-pages written of TPP Step one so far.

<big>I was happy to learn about 'radio silence' during parts of your travels, allowing space for internal travels. Seen some nice pictures of yours truly, but i often feel like missing out. No money to travel these days.</big>

<big>Things are going slowly, surely. I am studying two seminars on Bg ch 12, given by mother Urmila, and these reflections helped me a lot in gradually learning the differences between karma-yoga and bhakti yoga practically in my life. It is a introspection into my motives and attitudes, and i realized my lack of peace of mind, the goal of the first stage on the bhakti path, as outlined in 12.10. It also shows my faith is not very strong. It is a low level actually, but i'm very happy to finally get a grasp of where i stand. By grace of devotees i was asked to give class for a monthly program, and in two weeks i may speak on Sundayfeast in Amsterdam temple. Topic is this ch 12. It is a big topic actually, and i seek your blessings Gurumaharaja. </big>

<big>I have had quite a bit of temple time. Some seminars, usually dinner club and bhajanevening on friday, or / and sundayfeast with the family. Generally, once a week at least. Practical service if family situation allows. Received inspiration since beginning of the year to pick up SB, continued in Canto 4. Still quite some timewasting, but it has been worse, so it's not all bad. </big>

<big>Sankirtan and maintaining KC during cabby work positively acts on several levels, although i sometimes wish for more sattvic surroundings. Ofcourse, Krishna is arranging my medicin, so i have to play the game. Often with a hint of enthusiasm even. (12.10, working with Krishna as the maintainer works as a powerful meditation.) Getting up early often doesn't work, usually 9 at the latest, and i sometimes chant late in the evening, or even during driving, but all in all i manage, by grace, and i feel happy having Krishna with me. </big>

<big>Looking forward to the blog. I wish you ample and useful preaching engagements, and may your body cooperate nicely.

Jaya Gurudeva!
Your servant,
Raghava-pandita dasa.</big>

<big>              HpS -ASA --- What does Krsna want? That's the only question, right? Taxi, club, family, give it all to Krsna. Do it like you scratch your nose while doing your real work. What does Krsna really want?</big>

<big>Honk!  Honk!    Caw!   Caw!</big>

    AGTSP 

    PAMHO

   Espero se encuentre bien de salud. Hare Krishna!!!!!!!!!!!

  Perdone por no escribirle antes asi como por mis multiples ofensas, soy peor que un burro. Tendré que aceptar el pagar por ello.

 4 principios burdos ok. 17 rondas minimo. Todos los dias programa de la mañana, (menos un dia).

   Despues de los ultimos acontecimientos, estoy como miembro colaborador en el Templo de Madrid asi no tengo obligación de asistir a reuniones.

  Sigo ocupandome de cuidar a Sus Señorias Sri Sri Gaura Nitai, aunque creo que no estoy capacitado para hacerlo. Estoy planteandome dejar el puesto de Head Pujari, (seguir siendo un simple pujari)  pero solo es un planteamiento. Estos tres-cuatro meses han ido muy bien. Pero maya cuando pega pega fuerte. Algun puñetazo recibido, mente, vista.

Aunque mi deseo es seguir peleando. Creo que no hay otra opción

                 ASA - Si. No hay otro opcion, luchar para marijuana o luchar para satisfaccion de Krsna.

...hasta que salga de maya siempre estaré sufriendo. Aunque ahora puedo predicar un 0,0000000000000001 %

             ASA - Despues de salga de Maya vamos a sufrir tambien, Mire M. Yasoda y Radharani!

  Estoy empezando a tener dudas si es bueno seguir realizando la Adoración de esta manera, sin instalar las Deidades. Los ministros de Adoracion Pankajani Das? respondieron a Maha Laksmi DD que habria que Instalarlas, que asi es como adorar a semi dioses y uno puede ser atacado por fantasmas. Tambien creo que no estoy capacitado para hacerlo, aunque también es un hecho que no puedo vivir sin realizar servicio para Sus Señorias; o si puedo vivir pero con un sentimiento de separación muy grande.

    Algo flojo en la lectura debido a los cambios, a maya etc. Leidos: Sri Nityananda Caritamrita, y ahora leyendo Sri Caytanya Bhagavat, En busca del objetivo Supemo de la vida?, El libro de Krishna, SB.

    Imposible levantarme a las 3,   3,15 demasiado ruido en el Asrama. Preparo el desayuno de las Deidades, devotos con lo cual no puedo cantar las 16 rondas en Brahma Muhurta.

    Mis relacciones con los devotos nuevos de la directiva van mejorando pero no hay el mismo entendimiento que con los anteriores. Puede ser bueno para muchas cosas, ahora y en el futuro. Para mi ha sido una sorpresa, y creo que me alegro de que lo haya sido y asi no ser participe de eso. Pero tambien es cierto que ha sido desagradable y la conciencia de Krishna ha sido afectada, lo cual me da una idea mejor de mi posicion tan caida.

     Le he propuesto a Yasodanandana Prabhu hacer un grupo de musica, y va a comprar una guitarra y espero en breve empecemos a ensayar.

     ¿Puede Hablarme un poco de la iniciación de Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura? Y de los motivos a los que llegó para reestableceer la iniciación brahminica. Caitanya Mahaprabhu recibio esa iniciación. ¿?  ¿los seis Goswamis la recibierón?.

      Su caido intento de sirviente  Jharikhanda-gaura Das. (creo que soy totalmente inutil y muchas veces no puedo comprender lo que me estan diciendo) Deme por favor la misericordia de poder aplicar Su Misericordia Infinita para poder seguir sus instrucciones. Gracias por todo  Gurudeva.

                    ASA - Oooof!  Una carta muy larga! Recibo como 5-6 cada dia y 20 horas mas de otro servicio, pero basicamente puede entender que Vd es un Brahmana. No, Sannyasi o Goswami pero adelantando en esta dirrecccion. Adm. , servicio va a cambiar. Eso es realidad. Solamente certificar que el cambiar es advanza. No va a ser LA ULTIMA CAMBIO. La ADM. perfecto, pero cambio bueno para todos.
Puede tomar su papel de Pujari como su trabajo principal y su papel de Jefe de Pujaris como secndario esperando un Jefe de Pujaris mejor. Busca Satyaraja Khan en Upadesamrta y entonces sigue la enlace de CC para detalles de iniciacion. Gracias.  Super su servicio!!!!