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  Querido Gurudev: PAMHO, AGTSP !

¿Como se encuentra? Por aca estamos ansiosos por su llegada! 

Respondiendo a su pregunta:

 HpS - ASA --- TlgaSP !    Super. Otra vez, que tipo de Prasadam. Estoy recordando algo de hamburgezas vegitarianos!  Donde?

Con mi esposa GopikaPriya dasi, hace casi 4 años que trabajamos juntos y desde nuestra casa con la distribucion de Krsna-Prasadam vegano, es decir que no  cocinamos con lacteos o derivados animales, por el hecho de la explotacion de la industria lechera. Las preparaciones son ofrecidas a Goura Nitay, nuestras deidades, y con hojas frescas de Tulasi.

Le comento que acabo de recibirme de asesor nutricional, lo cual es una herramienta muy importante para nuestro emprendimiento. Usted pregunta que tipo de prasadam? muchas cosas: hamburguesas, pizzas, quesos veganos, tortas, panes integrales, viandas.

Seria maravilloso poder cocinarle alguna vez, espero poder hacerlo en enero!

Donde? Nosotros vivimos en Rosario, provincia de Santa Fe. Ubicado a 400 kilometros de Buenos Aires, es decir a unas 4 horas de viaje.

Me despido y espero poder obtener su misericordia para seguir cantando el santo nombre. 

Sinceramente deseando servirlo, 

bhakta Esteban Perez.

    HpS - ASA - Jaya! Gracias las respuesta, somos felices recordar que su negocio es Prasadam. Estamos visitando a Rosario como tres veces antes. Si, en el calendar de Kapi Dhvaja son las fechas para la visita a Argentina. Dos noches en Mar de Plata.

Hare Krsna Guru Maharaja!

Accepte mis respetuosas reverencias.

Todas las Glorias sean para Srila Prabhupada!

Luego de nuestra ceremonia de matrimonio, nos mudamos a media cuadra del templo. Visitamos a diario a los devotos, para asociación y servicio.

                  HpS - ASA -- Wow!  INcreiblE !!!

Finalizamos el curso de discípulos. Muy bueno para comprender todo los errores que hemos cometido hasta ahora como miembros de ISKCON.

Continuamos el próximo año con más cursos.

Mi hermana menor asiste a Bhakti Vrksa, canta una ronda y es casi completamente vegetariana.

                HpS - Estudiando? Trabajando, Ella?

En "Nuevo Templo", es una construcción que se está haciendo en el patio de la casa actual. Un salón de templo más grande, donde ya se han realizado varias fiestas.

Muchas gracias por la torta vegetariana y por las hermosas deidades para sukadeva :)

Estamos esperando Su visita para enero.

Hariiiboooll!!!

                 HpS - Si, pero ya estamos juntos.  Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna.  Hasta esta punto ha pasado una vida muy interesante "valuable". Que pasa en el futuro. Espero sentir mas cerca con Vds!!!

Best wishes, Prabhu.

Srila Prabhupada ki jaya!

For diksha, the standard of following is 6 months only, not one year, so you qualify - unless I read what you wrote wrong. Thus there doesn't seem to be a problem. Even if it was a year, I think you should be initiated anyway, even though it is not my decision to make, because of your unique situation. 
Your wellwisher, Gunagrahi das Goswami

HpS - ASA - AGTSP. paoho. As I experiences and even saw letters from Prabhupada the standard for Hari-nama Diksa was six monthe duing Srila Prabhupada's physical presence. When Prabhupada and the Vedas say "One Year".  That seems for sure to be second initiation. Of course, we should follow long enough to be sure that we can do what we are promising to do. If after 2-years we honestly are still not sure that we can follow the principles for our whole life (barring unexpected tricks from Maya devi) then we should wait.

"I promise I will pull you out of the water if you fall in. I won't let you drown". This is serious promise, but practically speaking if we see that we have done it and we simply expect we can do, it then, yes, make the commitment.

Here at the ASA we also think Bh. Nicasio should take 1st initiation if he feels ready.

Title: opinion about open secret in ISKCON Hare Krisna!!!

Please accept my humble obeisances, All glories to Srila Prabhupada,

Esteemed Gunagrahi das Goswami,

Recently i finished the disciples course which is now a requisite to take initiation within our institution. i felt very satisfied taking the course, and i think everybody should take it. it is a very nice opportunity for an intense and funny sadhu sanga while learning about guru tattva and the standards in ISKCON. I really appreciate how ISKCON as an institution is working hard to make everything more clear and establishing clear rules and procedures in order to protect the position and teachings of the Founder Acarya Srila Prabhupada. We are maturing. Gives confidence.

Although the course is very clear and it covers many subjects that you can say it is much more than a mere disciples course, there is something that still it is not clear to me. when it comes to selecting a guru the course defines the steps to take and it says: one should engage in favourable devotional service, follow the four principles STRICTLY, chanting sixteen rounds, and a full morning program. During this period one should focus in SRila PRabhupada as prominent siksa guru. after six months of following the above one can select an authorized diksa guru and take shelter. after a minimum of six months of having taken shelter one can accept vaisnava diksa and it says that the guru is not obliged to iniciate de candidate.

So this is pretty clear, in theory. but in the practice i can notice that there is different deffinitions of following STRICTLY, and specifically regarding about sex life. It is an open secret that there are two different standards about illicit sex within ISKCON. a few months ago you sent an article regarding this topic, "Family Matters" by Matsya-avatar Prabhu. The lower standard is having regulated sex life within marriage and the higher is having sex life only after garbadhana samskara.

Then there are some gurus within ISKCON that give initiation to devotees that are following the lower standard, and there are other gurus that only give initiation to those devotees who follow the higher standard. So in our yatra we have a devotee which is very involved and commited to the mission, actually he is one of the leaders of the yatra. He is chanting sixteen rounds, having morning program, involved in favourable devotional service, and following the lower standard for seven years now. In the present time this devotee is following everything strictly according to the higher standard for six months and will be eight months of following when his gurumaharaj visit the yatra. he is asking to be initiated to give strength to his spiritual life. he has the benediction to be initiated by the local yatra leader mahajan prabhu, maha hari prabhu, president of ISKCON argentina and even by yourself.

His gurumaharaj initiates devotees who follow the higher standard only. what do you think maharaj? should this devotee be initiated as a special mercy to him or he must wait until he follows everything for one year? please comment on this topic.

your humble servant.

Bhakta Nicasio.

Hare Krsna Gurudeva

tgpSP

pamho

....con relacion a mi vida familiar para el proximo 20 de marzo tendre cambios y es buena idea que los devotos conozcan acerca de nuestras vidas por lo que mas adelante ire contando como se desarrollan los acontecimientos y las probables causas de ellos 

.... con relacion a la carta de Saranagati DD decirla que en españa desde primavera a otoño funciona en nuestra granja agricola de la Nueva Vrajamandala el Instituto  Bhaktivedanta por (si le puede interesar algun devoto ) que lo dirige SS Yadunandana Sw. si alguien esta interesado pueden escribirbe a [email protected] y le facilitare los correos o en lo que  pueda ayudar

...recordar a los Vaisnavas que NO desperdicien la impagable e inmericida asociacion de escuchar y asociarnos con Gurudeva en Japa Joe  

vuestro sirviente

murari das

todas las glorias a sri sri guru y gauranga 

todas las glorias a srila prabhupada

Estamos aqui en Belo Horizonte (Brasil) haciendo la marathon de libros de srila prabhupada, (la verdad que esta un poco duro pues estoy haciendo sankirtana solo...):

              HpS - ASA -  TlgaSP. pfanrh.  Muy duro!  Tu eres un gran santo!!

....bueno mis planes cambiaron un poco voy para buenos aires para el 1º de enero. nos vemos alla.

                 ASA - Oink!  Oink!!

Maharaja Dhamvantari puede comunicarse con P. Mahahari y asi tener nuestra carta de recomendacion para primera iniciacion (:

mis reverencias

su eterno sirviente

bhakta tortuga

                 HpS - O.K. Nos vemos en BsAs. Y podemos confrontar los hechos de los formalidades, pero la realidad es Krsna es a lado con Vd. en Sankirtan.

El tortuga con la leonesa!!!