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9 years, 7 months ago by hps in DTC

AGTSP!    Paoho....  Oink!   Oink!        Whoop!    WHoooPP!

Monkey / Piggy here.

It is getting dark outside.  Traffic on Medical Center Parkway is decreasing.   All the people, rats, in their homes, clubs.  Mode of ignorance starting.

We go to NGD's home a little later tonight because he has some emergency psychotherapy.

7.30PM is our BG class.​

In the Kapi Dhvaja we said we would make a daily report (Guru tattva) of our daily activities this fortnight:

TUESDAY = FMP; Chat with Partha-sarathi Das; Kapi Dhavja; Nap; Gayatri, File Purge; Rama-giri-dhari Das (Harsh); Dr. Samaresh; Daniel (our guest Bhakta); Lunch G-2; Santiago, Argentina Ticket; Blog; WCL (World Classical Literature (We are looking at the fantasy bookshelp in gutenberg.org)); accounting; NGD (Nitai gaurasunara das, evening walk, Radha-Natabara darshan, Lilamrta G-3); home; WCL rest.

WEDNESDAY = Up at 1.30 (Japa writing, reading); FMP; B'fast (lots of yogurt, and home made bread and milk); reading "Good to Great" - Lilamrta' G-1; Nap; Post ASA $$$ to Blog; BG 13-14 (for this evening); Cut Grass; bicycle to Good Will store and Krsna krip, a $65, roller-bag brief case, overnight bag for only $7 with a zipper missing on front pocket!); Hawaii class with Hrd Goswami; Bath; lunch offering (Apple juice and pnut butter and prunes); WCL; Nap; Bath; Blog!

Hare Krsna.   Lot more work to do, but now G-3, Kirtan for Lord Nrs and head to NGD home.  See you at the class.

Thank you so much for all the very nice letters.  It gets very lonely without your association.  We are trying to join the Sankirtan movement!!!

hare krishna hare rama

9 years, 7 months ago by Bhakta Jorge España in Personal Sadhana Reports

hare krishna Maharaj pamho agtsp.

Maharaj thank you very much for all your support, it is very important to me.
I'm ashamed to say; but really I do not want to force me to make a vow. what else can I say. just please be merciful with me; so I can understand how you are engaged in devotional service.

I read the verses; I really understand that all my misfortune is the material attachment. attachment to my mother and my sister. but it's like a reflection of my desire to enjoy. I'm really suffering but with her there is nothing to do; one thing Harer Nama.
but I'm like a cloud just hope not disappear.

I think I should go to India and forget all this material world; no matter die by starvation in a forest. actually that would be the goal. but then what about the sankirtan ISKCON. it seems that everyone has a way. either way I think the best is the sankirtan. This blog is a therapy.

well I'll keep resisting somehow; and perhaps to-morrow the sun shine with such force that mowed my materialistic vision. Here's hoping.  

Now my days in Scandinavia almost ending for now. I hope to travel to Barcelona in two or three weeks.

Maharaj thank you

HpS -  Jaya!   No force! ​ Just suggestion, from Rupa Goswami in Bhakti rasamrta sindhu.  In the beginning it is Vaidhi bhakti.  By rules and regulations.     So, if we can make some standard for our selves, that we know is good.  That we know we can do, then we can defeat the crazy mind.   Can be to chant one round every Sunday no matter what.  What is good for us.   One round every Sunday for one month.  Then exam the results.

Of course, maybe the Karma is still to strong for that, then yes, try to chant as much as possible whenever you can. Read SB (to others (Krsna)), make You Tube movies for Krsna.

Hope you have a lot of devotee friends.

Hope for lots of news from you when you get to Barcelona.  Nimai and Gundica never write to us!!!!

Yasoda Lima Perú

9 years, 7 months ago by Yasoda in Personal Sadhana Reports

Todas las glorias a su divina gracia A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada

​Hare Krishna Muy querido y siempre siempre recordado maestro espiritual

Gurudeva!   Hariboooool.     Le escribo muy feliz! Porque acabo de salir de atender a la deidad del templo de Wilson Gauranitay!!!!

 
HpS - ASA -- In, In, Increible.  Radha-prati-jalpa, Yugala, Yasoda. Tres Bhaktinas locas, hemosas, super!

Como esta el gran protegedor de los pobres, su Papa?  Tia de hielo?

Dejé. De ir a Isev porque entendí que es mejor estar en donde me formaron. No sé si cometi una ofensa al decir que no era de Iskcon....  perdone si es así.pero siempre dije q usted es mi maestro espiritual. Ahora mis rondas con mejor canto sadhana y usando sari.

ASA - Bueno!   Prabhupada dijo que la chica comun no va ser satisfecha sin al minimo 24-36 Saris.

Siento que vuelvo a nacer como el hijo pródigo.

​tengo que contarle algo...en diciembre Jesús, el chico con el que salía terminó la relación conmigo y fue lo mejor para ambos. ambos estamos tranquilos y yo me estoy acercando más a Krishna. Ahora estoy trabajando en el colegio de isev en una zona de muy bajos recursos con niños en riesgo de delincuencia. es una misericordia que ellos tomen prasadam y vean a la deidad.

​Gurumaharaja.....mmmm.....hay un devoto que se llama hari gobinda que fue brahmachari por 6 años y presidente de dos templos de isev. Pero ahora el decoro ha decidido abandonar la institución isev. se formó cuatro años en iskcon y siente que irse a isev no fue la mejor decisión. Y....él quiere escribirle algo sobre mi....porque....mmmm el prabhu Hari Govinda tiene intenciones de asociarse conmigo y desea escribirle a usted....

HpS - Es bueno escribir al Blog. Somos amigos aqui. Somos (todo los blogarenos) muy celoso de nuestra hija (Yasoda Devi Dasi), quieremos que el tiene buen intenciones para ella.
 

​Hare Krishna Maharaj Reverencias todas las Glorias a Srila Prabhupada. Como ya le escribió la Madre Yasoda me llamo Hari Govinda das.

ASA - HpS -  Wow!  Pronto, nuestra deseos realizados!  Hola, Hari!!

Le escribo a su digna persona para expresar mi admiración y respeto que tengo hacia madre Yasoda y pedir su consentimiento para poder asociarme con la madre. Estamos en una etapa de conocernos. Pido a usted sus Bendiciones. Hare Krishna.

HpS - ASA -- Claro es una tema muy amplio.  Pienso es super si todo es en la asociacion de ambos de sus familias, los autoridades religiosos como el Yamunesvara Das en Wilson, entonces va a pasara muy bien.

En nuestra cultural el matrimonio no es entre dos personas, es entre dos "familias".   Ahhh!  Entonces es muy pacifico, dulce, productiva.   Buena suerte.    Cual es su trabajo???

Bg 17.28 Inquiry

Dear Gurumaharaja,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

First of all i wish to thank you for your reply to my previous letter. Temple news is that Krishna Ksetra Maharaja visits this weekend for classes. Mother Kishori from France visited the other week, and the place got opened with Radhastami and was baptised 'Gaura Dham.'

My reason for writing is that i seek more understanding about a certain point which i hope you can clarify. It is about the contents of this verse:
http://www.vedabase.com/en/bg/17/28

Hrdayananda Goswami reasoned in a class that chanting Mahamantra in the streets is not very effective to most hearers because of the point of this verse. There would be ajnata sukriti, but that is not so potent as to make people come forward and really take up the chanting. For people who have past life experiences, the chanting would wake them up to their previous position and they would continue. The same goes for reading Srila Prabhupada's books. The argument he used based on this verse, is that if an action is not purposefully done out of  good intention, the result would not be very potent. After all, the verse prior to this one mentions the criterium as to please the Lord.

Now this shook me up a bit, because of what i sort of picked up in our ISKCON, that the chanting is so potent that everybody will benefit. Of course, Maharaja did not deny that explicitly, nor did he dissuade from doing Harinam in any way, but it was a bit of a letdown, because his point made sense to me. On the other hand, Srila Prabhupada says that even chanting as a joke or mockingly has effect. How do i understand this apparent contradiction? And is ajnata sukriti really not that potent, and does it have to add up in order to be of some influence?

There was another class in Berlin from September, which became a topic of discussion on the internet, where Maharaja said that the prophesy of Lord Caitanya can lead devotees in Harinam parties sometimes to be in a bubble of 'saving the world,' while in actuality they are not connecting to the people around them. To me, these episode strenghten in me the notion that to speak to one person a day, in a good conversation with mutual respect, and to impress upon them the glories and benefit of chanting, and inspiring them in that way, is a glorious thing. Of course i would be interested in understanding your ideas on the 9% that you disagree with in Maharaja, to see more balance, but i can understand could be beyond the scope of this forum. Anyway, i look forward to hearing your thoughts.

With kind regards,
Your aspiring servant,
Raghava Pandit das

 
HpS - ASA --- Thank you, on our behalf and all the frogs here in the Bog, so much for your association. Yes, it seems beyond the scope of this Blog.  In general you have said it.  There is Ajnata sukrti for new people and stimualtion of their Vasanas, Samskaras, Ajnanata-sukrtis, from previous lives for those people. It has immediate and lasting benefit, but yes, it does build up.
 
Yes, there is different potency in how it is done.

We remember that Prabhupada said that in his mother's kitchen all the pots were free of even a black spot from carbon. One black spot and back to the serving girl for cleaning. She would always clean while cooking, so when the offering was done, it was just two stroke to clean the kitchen. Prabhupada said that if you take Prasadam prepared in a Kitchen like that, then immediately you feeled refreshed, happy.
 
So, yes, if we are chanting like Kanthistha adhikaris, only see God in the procees, our process, then it is not as potent as Madhyama adhikaris who 1. Avoid the demons in the audience, 2. Preach (connect) to the innocent, 3. Worship God by the Chanting, and 4. Make friendship with the devotees (eg. Samskara guys).    O.K?     Always go chanting with flags.  In Russia, always go with good accordion music etc.

O.K?   Some little idea?
 
 
 
 

NIMSAR EKADASI REPORT

Hare Krishna Maharaja Please, accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I'll be in charge of NIMSAR communication from now on. After 2 meetings the following was agreed:

1.-To have a protocol for meetings.

2. It was agreed that members of NIMSAR receive training seminars in skills and introspective (psychological)areas.

3. Areas were developed by committees and all is related as a body

HpS - ASA ----  AGTSP!  Excellent Letter, but.... we don't understand this point???  ​

 

4.- An executive and educational model was presented, we will go looking for results at future meetings.

Communications (under the direction of the secretariat) will be developed in 3 stages: The 1st stage (from October to February 2016) we will develop a colaborationa plan for ISKCON temples Agreements: We will take the workshop by Mr Palomino. Sunday School will be developed by Priya Sakhi and Yugala dd SS Isvari dd

 
ASA (Monkey/Piggy) --- Very nice.

1. Where is our Word Document, summary of the Regional Encounter. It has been two months since the event and no Document. We are beginning to look like fools in front of our Members and Directors: HpSwami, what did your people do with the $1,000!

Also, we are supposed to see a clip on YouTube of the event.   Hmmm, Ambo-Vrsa, say they are working on it, but you must check with them. We are going to save the whole world with NIMSAR, no??

2. We will be in Peru 4-6 January and 1-3 February. Dates are here in the Blog. Just set the filter for Calendar Development and you will find them. We hope, hope, hope we can get a lot for association with NIMSAR during these days.
3.Thank you so, so much for your years of austerities in your service to Srila Prabhupada and Krsna.
 

Machiavelli di Santiago

9 years, 7 months ago by Bhakta Luciano in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna,

Please accept my humble obeisance’s.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

From Bhakta Luciano Macchiavelo Chile

I think this is the second time I send a message to the Blog, your nicknamed me Bhakta Lucifer (whick I find so funny). Luciano + Macchiavello =Lucifer 

 
HpS - Yes, I remember you very well!     "Politics and evil must mix", Macchiavelli.

A lot has passed since I asked to be your disciple like 4 years ago and formally asked for refugee a little under 2 years back. But I am slowly advancing as a devotee, maybe to slowly but I do feel at heart that I am advance. But I have kept going regularly to the temple.

At this moment I have no formal service, but I do a few things:

1: help in harinam.

2: Community Data Base.  Me and another Bhakta under the guidance of the temple president will be building a database of ALL Iskcon devotes in Chile.

3: Milk products for temple Deities. This service sprang  out of nowhere…  I buy countryside milk products for temple deities and deliver it to the Deity kitchen.  I collect money from devotes, but I end up financing most of this service from my own pocket.

ASA -   Excellent. Krsna loves you!

2 months ago I started working for a  USA company called Troll and Toad  which area  of business is collectable games, my job is basically buy collectable cards in Chile and send them to the company in USA, and help them in events in America Latina, I am traveling each weekend and in November I go to Puerto Alegre brazil fro an international Magic Game event.

Its strange that Krisna is pushing me to administrating Money, for my company (they sent me us$6000 last month), for the Milk for the Temple  Deities and a devotee that I will not mention has a family member deposit money in my account, I keep that money safe and when he needs me to from abroad he sends me a message to hand it over to another devotee.

ASA - -  Karma, karma, karma - Men, money, women.

The temple President Prabhu Amara Gouranga has been giving me space to sit in at his new administration meetings, he is in dire need of devotes who can and want to administrate and he is slowly giving me space to try and see where I can be useful.

Also  I do informal service of administrating 3 Facebook groups:

1: Lacto vegetarians in Chile 460 members

2: harinam Saknirtan Iskcon Chile

3 Congregacion Iskcon Chile. This has been very nice it started off with no members and I started adding devotees and Bhaktas, under the permision of the temple Presidente. It now hs 266 memebrs.  It’s a closed group so it’s a online space where devotes can post stuff more internal issues and share devote stuff for Chile. I see a lot of potential here. It has been conflict free upto now. I have a bit of a reputation as a heavy facebook argumentor… so the trouble makers avoid me ( I was participating a lot on vegan vegetarian  facegroups and gave the Vegans that offended devotes a hard time and gained the respect of a few of their leaders always a gentle man).

My relationship with the devotees has not been easy. I am a gentle man but very critical, not in an offensive way but because I want to help develop a strong community for preaching. Thus my neophyte stage always clashes with a few devotes. But I feel I have gained the respect of many due to my sincerity.

Today I went to temple and gave my respects top Srila Prabhupada and he looked at me grave, too serious, almost angry. My first thought was “Guru” You.  I need to develop a relationship with Guru.

“ 3weeks ago I was given Goura Nitay Dieties from the Chilean Brhamchari called Hari Das Chaitanya (personal assistant of Jayapataka Swami), he brought them from Mayapur.

I should have then asked you permsion to worship them but never got around to doing it.

My Sadhana is below par.

I have problem with my rounds, for that I am trying to get up very early to do at leastt 4 rounds around 5:30. A.m. and during the day fill in the rest.

I have no attraction for meat  and have not eaten meat/eggs etc for more than 10 years

I have no attraction for alcohol and not drank for more than 10 years

I have never done drugs.

I once smoked for 2 weeks (to try and fit in but that was stupid of me)

I do not gamble and the lst time I played a lottery ticket was like 3 years ago.

I tend to have a regular fall down in illicit sex, every few months someone appears to seem like the perfect wife… but not work….

Please guide and advise me.

With  your permission can I worship Guora Nitay?

Is there anything I can do for you?

Your aspiring servant

Bhakta Luciano

Trying to be the servant of the servant

My respects

HpS - ASA -- It is so, nice to hear from you!    We walked in talking circles in the pavillion back of the Temple, no?  All of your activities seem very nice.   Of course, the essence is to bath your self in the Holy Names.

Get up early and get your rounds done!

We still get impelled by material desires, and the above phrase has helped us so much.  Do you get the Kapi Dhvaja?   We have a lot of advice there.
 
Honestly, from what little I know of your life and the very good letter, it seems like you are on the right path. Yes, keep Gaura and Nitya-ananda in your house. Ask devotees about a simple standard. 1) Love, 2) Clean, 3)Punctual, 4) Rituals.
Read Caitanya-caritamrta for Them every day.  It is very nice They have come to you.

Your marriage relationship will not manifest until you have been celibate in religious mysticism for 3-probably, 4-years.

Send us more news as you can.