Super Urgente!!!!!!!!!!!!!NIMSAR on suspension

Hare Krishna, dear Gurumaharaj, Pamho, AGTSP!

After many days of meditation I, we, decided to not work as a group (NIMSAR) any longer. Painful decision, but realistic.

It was a good name, we did good things together, gained some reputacion, etc, but continuos desagreements were holding back our development.  

It was too much. I tried, believe me, I tried really hard. But enough is enough.

I've always have your injuctions in my heart regarding this topics. I took all them into consideration. 

However, I'll continue my job as a teacher. We have to work on details, etc. 

If you allow me I can teach with your study guides as member of ASA. I have a nice relatonship with my authorities in Chosica and they agreed to work with me.

My idea is to help Junta Nacional to be again examination center. I'll do my best to work  with authorities in a nice relationship. I think that Krishna wants that, a healthy cooperative work. I was never happy with the idea to work only through NIMSAR cause is a hazel (hassle) working with the administration.

The easy way out is "to hell with all this. I can work in a nice school for at least $1000  or $1,500 a month"

But no, I want to work for Prabhupada as much as I can. Giving all my time possible. Having the chance to manage muy time as I desire.

I don't know. I'm probably wrong.

Well, that's for now.

Please, forgive me.

I couldn't do much about this.

your servant

LAD

ASA - Commando -- Seems cool to us. Let us hear what your determination is and the determination of your partner soon. 

ABC Saturday Morning Workshop. . .

.... has now become a Sunday morning Workshop with the Boise Temple as announced below:

Hare Krishna Prabhus and Matajis:

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Thanks to Hanuman Swami's efforts and desire that New Biharvan devotees associate together and review Srimad Bhagavatam at least once a week, some of us have agreed to meet at 11:15 AM on Sundays to do the same. This will change the Sunday feast schedule slightly and as Hanuman Swami had pointed out it will in fact the feast even more meaningful and joyous. Please see the new schedule below and join us for some nice sangha:

Sunday feast schedule:
    11:00 AM         Srila Prabhupada Guru Puja and kirtan
    11:15 AM        Srimad Bhagavatam review - 30 minutes
    11:45 AM         Sunday Feast class (BG or other topical Krishna Katha)
    12:30 PM          AArti and Nrsimha Prayers
    1:00  PM          Announcements
    1:15  PM          Feast

The plan is to take turns (by initiated devotees) to do Guru Puja, kirtan, SB review and the feast lecture.

Murari Prabhu and Mother Kamagyatri will make sure that Guru Puja aarti plate etc. is ready and will be back up for doing the Guru Puja. Cleanup of the plate after the AArti will be done by whoever is doing the AArti. For Guru Puja, review, kirtan and feast lecture proper devotee attire is required 

For this coming Sunday the 29th, I am proposing:

Srinivas Prabhu to do the Guru Puja

Anantarupa das to do the SB review. I would like to start the review and lead the discussion with SB from the beginning 1.1.1 - thru 1.1.5. 

Mother Acyuta to give the feast lecture.

Krishna is very happy when devotees get together, specially when it is the desire of His dear devotees such as HH Hanuman Swami; please join us. Also feel free to invite others; the invitees can try out but ultimately they should be willing to come regularly. The sangha (until 11:45) is for regular attendance of like minded devotees with desire to taste SB nectar and association of devotees. Please let me know if you plan to attend
YS
Anantarupa das

Please join us

Hare Krishna Temple
1615 Martha St.
Boise, ID 83706
(208) 344-4274
[email protected]

ASA - What percentage of the First Chapter do the first two verses represent?

Preaching urgent

Hare Krsna BELOVED Gurudeva

AGTSP

PAMHO

Hope this meets U with good health!!!

Thank U for posting your activities here. We check this blog after our rounds everyday.

Well regarding NIMSAR. Yes the Lad and the majority of us thought that this was the best decision. We have worked for years trying to get along but it was impossible..  We can face challenges but without working as a team is impossible. I have good communication with Lad he will write to U explaining the details soon.

But now basically I want to take shelter in ASA as U said then if we can not work together we can work with ASA.. So I have 2 students in chile that want to take Bhakti Sastri with me.. So how can I teach to them and bring them support. I mean they will ask for a certification. I do not want to teach in the temple.I prefer just to give Bg and SB classes that's it. Another question may I use your material? I mean your study guides TPP. When I teach I learn more. Please guide me. What should I do. Because the classes may start in February. Please also tell me in which way I may be useful in ASA. I just distribuited one Light of the Bhagavata and one BG in English I am in wilson. Now I am going to the beach to relax. Thank U Your useless servant Candramukhi dd

HpS - ASA -- We are typing on the back of a luggage cart in the Delhi Airport. Little bit of arythmia. Waiting for our luggage.

To give certificate you have to have connection with an authorizied center. ASA is not authorized and really neither is Peru right now.

We can think more about how to go ahead in the near future. We are getting a view of a lot of other centers now.

Nimsar reoort urgent

Hare Krsna Beloved Gurudeva

AGTSP PAMHO

SO sorry for the delay I was a little confused about if I need to send a report or wait that  lad (Lad) does

Well straight to the point !!! Even if we try to work together as a group, still we have another [other] visions, targets and different modes on how we work, etc plus all the pressure from external people..... pfff we are seriously thinking in DISSOLVE NIMSAR and create other institution.

Our desire is to continue working in education, is the only way to learn

Thank U for iur patience and support

This is my last report as secretary. Lad told me to put that.... Personally I think that dissolve is the best option and we will back  from the ashes. With rules that all of us obey we need to work a lot in our ego. 

Trying to be useful

Candramukhi dd

H. P. Swami - ASA -- Hare Krsna. "Last Report" - Does this mean that you are resigning as Secretary? Isvari Devi Dasi was sending the reports each Ekadasi, not the LAD. Seems that NIMSAR is a fine name for an ASA Branch in Peru, but just need to work on the: Who am I, Who are we, phase of things. Then Plans. If plans based upon personal relations require and institution like NIMSAR, if not, then yes, we can put NIMSAR on suspension.

Books are the basis. The heart of any educational institution is its library. What books are your basis?

HPSwami is based upon: NOI, LOB, TLC, Song Book and how these lead to the Bhaktivedanta Library, specifically Pada-padma. Then we are reaching out to C. G. Jung's books and other World Classical Literature.

What books are the basis of your study and teaching and preaching???

URGENT - from Pune on January 25, 2017

8 years, 4 months ago by Gopal C Biswas in Other

Hare Krsna Dear Gurudev,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.
    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    All glories to Guru parampara.

    Gurudev, we had a meeting with Temple authority and Temple authority is re-scheduling all the events (as there
    will be 3 Maharaj during your visit.)

    we will have another meeting on January 27, 2017 then picture will be clear.

    while, we have already conveyed your message about ISKCON Education.
    ( Daivi Varna Ashrama Education as Pre, Primary, Secondary and University education, Philosophy of Education,
      Sastric Education all for the purpose of Sankirtan. Several presentations in the morning,
      workshops in the after noon and cultural presentations in the evening. Light of the Bhagavata Symposium,
      Pschology and the Sacred )

    Once we have a clear picture of your events, then update you.

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

HpS - Very nice. We can hear from and speak to other Sannyasis.

Jung In India

8 years, 4 months ago by hps in Special Category B

Jaya, Radhe!

Esteemed Beverley Zabrieskii et al,

Here it is 2.54 AM in the small town of Thoubal in the remote Indian State of Manipur in the foothills of the Himalaya. It is cold. We are accommodated in a little cottage built for us, and are in the middle of this India tour.

It has been moving so fast that we only now got a chance to read the full newsletter you sent to us. We will contact the Jungian Group in Bombay and try to visit them while we are there.

The newsletter has given us such incredible resources for our work: Bridges between Jung and the traditional wealth of Indian psychology that we have discovered.

We have not heard from Prof. Shamdasani in response to our previous letter and certainly to not want to distract him from his premier work in publication.

BUT, we are sending a copy of this letter to him with a small note that on the 7th-9th of February we will be back in Kolkata and stationed with our very esteemed friend and colleague Professor Dr. Samaresh Bandyopadhyay, former professor and head of the Department of Ancient India History and Culture at the University of Calcutta.

He mentioned that if he had a little more information he might be able to research Jung's visit to and activities at the University of Calcutta.

If this is of any use to the Philemon Foundation then please do not hesitate to text or call us: +91 96 43 43 1330, or email us.

Already we have met with Dr. Kalyana Kumar, Director of the Indian fine arts academy, the Director of the Indian Council on Philosophical Research, presented at a symposium on the Bhagavata Purana sponsored by Madras University and Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies, lectured to 120-students and five professors at Asutosh College in Kolkata adn almost died of a heart attack etc. etc.
We see many avenues of approach open for our efforts.
Thank you so much.

At your service.
Hanumatpresaka Swami
(Prof. H. H. Robinson)

 

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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:19 PM
Subject: Nios and Jung in India
Greetings for the new year.
Forgive my delay in response. Christmas is a time for family chaos and energy.
I am glad to know you are returning to Peru. The Lima event was superb - I hope you are proud of what you produced.
I myself am going to lecture in Buenos Aires in mid July so it would not be possible for me to attend the 2017 Lima event.
I recently received a Jungian organization's - IAAP- newsletter about new Jung ams in India and have pasted it below in case it is of interest to you.
I send this quickly - but will write more soon.
Yours
Beverley

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from Ashok Bedi, CSJA
IAAP Liaison Person for India

 

In 2003, my colleague and mentor, Murray Stein, approached me at the
C.G. Jung Institute of Chicago to undertake the initiatives for developing
the IAAP groups in India. It was a daunting task to establish some ground
in a vast old culture of India with over 1.1 billion citizens and no Jungian
presence. Synchronistically, I was invited to lead the Annual Study
Groups to India under the auspices of the New York Foundation – “In the
Footsteps of Carl Jung in India” and “A Jungian Encounter with the Soul
of India” series to replicate fractals of Jung’s memorable trip to India in
1937-38, which is well recorded by Jung in his various publications. These
study groups as well as my efforts to establish Jungian presence in India is
in its 12th year. While these Annual India Study Groups are not a part of
the IAAP Developing Groups initiative, they have done much to introduce
the Global Jungian audience to the intricacies of the Indian Cultural
Psyche and its contributions to the Collective (
www.pathtothesoul.com).
Taj Mahal
(Photo: N. Kiehl)
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After exploring possibilities in Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore and
Ahmedabad, I found some interest at my Alma Mater – the B.J. Medical
College at the Department of Psychiatry in Ahmedabad with the help of
my colleagues, Dr. Bipul Sinha and Dr. Ganpat Vankar, at the Department
of Psychiatry, with enthusiastic response from the Psychiatric Community.
It began as the India Jung Center at Ahmedabad, the place of Mahatma
Gandhi’s Magnum Opus in his unique struggle to confront the British
Colonial oppression using the timeless principles of Ahimsa (nonviolence)
and peaceful civil disobedience. Over the next several years, I was able to
secure the support from other colleagues and it blossomed into the
establishment of the Jung Center Bangalore under the leadership of
Kusum Dhar Prabhu, the Jung Center Ahmedabad presently under the
leadership of Dr. Minakshi Parikh (Chairperson – Dept. of Psychiatry at
the B.J. Medical College) and the Jung Center Mumbai under the
leadership of Rev. Fr. Joseph Pereira (Managing Director of the largest
NGO in India – Kripa Foundation, inspired by and in collaboration of
Mother Teresa).
The efforts at these three centers were supported by the generous
donations of Jungian Books by my colleagues at the C.G. Jung Institute of
Chicago. Dr. June Singer donated her large collection of personal Jungian
Library and we have the June Singer Library of Jungian Literature at the
Jung Center Ahmedabad. Many other peers at the Chicago Institute have
donated books including Dr. Robert Moore, Dr. Margaret Shanahon, Marti
Atkinson, Mary Dougherty to name a few. With these and other
donations, we now have a collection of Collected Works and other Jungian
literature at all three centers. These efforts were supplemented by visiting
volunteer Jungian Faculty from the global Jungian, Psychiatric and Mental
Health Community including Dr. Boris Matthews, Dr. Dinshah Gagrat,
and Dr. B.J. Jakala, Luke Waldo (Family Support Programs Manager at the
Children’s Hospital in Milwaukee) and Christian Gillard.
I have continued to visit India annually to teach and coordinate the
initiatives at these centers and have been supported generously by these
faculty members in their presentations in India. Other visiting analysts
and faculty members have supported the efforts in Bangalore. A few years
ago, the Bangalore group decided to become an independent group under
the leadership of Kusum Dhar Prabhu. They continue to do excellent work
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to train independent routers, public programs and continuing professional
activities at the Bangalore Center.
Since we only have one Jungian analyst in India at Bangalore, the
India initiative is supported by myself, the visiting faculty and the Dan
Lindley and Lucia Woods Lindley Distance Learning Center at the C.G.
Jung Institute of Chicago, made possible by a generous donation by Dan
Lindley and Lucia Woods Lindley. My gratitude to them for supporting
our efforts in India. We have offered numerous Webinars for the Mumbai
group and are planning a Basic Jung Series for the Jung Center
Ahmedabad. These are supported by my Jungian and Psychiatric peers in
the USA including Dr. Dinshah Gagrat- Chief of Adult Psychiatry and
Eating Disorders Programs at the Aurora Psychiatric Hospital & Dr. Lance
Longo, M.D. – Chief of Addiction Medicine at the Dewey Center in
Milwaukee. The DVDs of these offerings are available in the archives of
these centers for continuing education purposes.
The activities at the Jung Center Ahmedabad recently got a boost
from a synchronistic series of events. Dr. Minakshi Parikh is the new
chairperson of Psychiatry at the B.J. Medical College and her husband, Dr.
Nimesh Parikh, is the chairperson of the competing V.S. Medical College.
Both prestigious Medical Colleges are now collaborating in the Jungian
Studies. The bedroom and the boardroom are now in sync! Additionally,
during my last visit to India, my colleague, Dr. B.J. Jakala from Los Angles
and I did several presentations at the Mumbai and Ahmedabad Centers
including at the GIPS (Gujarat Institute of Psychiatry – the largest private
Psychiatric group in India) under the leadership of their Medical Director
Dr. Himanshu Desai. GIPS mental health professionals seemed keen to
engage the Jungian paradigm in their psychotherapy efforts.
The activities at the Jung Center Mumbai under the leadership of
Rev. Fr. Joe Pereira serves over 70 Kripa centers throughout India and
abroad providing addiction and mental health services to the community
and hence our Jungian efforts there have an exponential impact of all these
centers as all the staff have access to our Webinars and to the annual
presentations in Mumbai center and its affiliates
(
www.kripafoundation.org). Fr. Joe is a close friend and collaborator of
the famous Yoga Late Guruji Shree B.K.S. Iyengar and all the Kripa centers
in India and abroad creatively blend the Eastern Contemplative practices
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with the Allopathic Medicine in their Kripa Model of treatment. Fr. Joe
and I are coauthoring a book on this paradigm: The Spiritual Paradox of
Addiction: the Faith Deficit Syndrome, which is in the prepublication stage.
For the first few years some of the efforts at the India Centers were
partly supported by the IAAP along with my personal funds. In 2007, I
was inspired and supported by my son, Siddhartha, and my wife, Usha, to
establish a Not for Profit Charitable Foundation – the USA India Jung
Foundation 
www.uijf.org. This Foundation has done some fundraising
and other activities to support our India efforts. Our Board Members
include Siddhartha and Usha Bedi, Dr. Dinshah Gagrat, Dr. Ajit Divgi.
Siddhartha Bedi, Usha and Ashok Bedi, Dr. Ajit Divgi, Dr. Dinshah
Gagrat, Dr. Shobha Gagrat and others have made generous donations to
the Foundation.
The India experience has been a paradoxical experience for me.
When, as Jungians, we present the tenets of Analytical Psychology to
Indians, they see it as a very dilute, westernized version of the ancient
Hindu concepts, the tales their grandmothers taught them as children. For
a long time, I struggled with how to sell snow to Alaskans! Then after
much soul searching, it clicked. While Indians have a lot of Archetypal
Gold in their cultural goldmines, they did not have the modern
methodology to mine their own treasures in a clinically usable form. The
paradigm and the clinical methodology of Analytical psychology offers
much to the Indian Psychiatric and Mental Health Community to make
their timeless wisdom available for the purposes of healing the suffering
and harvesting the fuller potential of its patients and culture. This
perspective has been the focus of our work in India.
While the Jung Centers in India have the basic Jung books, I still
need donations of additional copies of the Collected Works and Neo-
Jungian Books that are clinically relevant to amplify the collections so that
more than one student may borrow these. Kindly send your donations of
core Jungian Books only, directly to:
For the Jung Center Mumbai:
Kripa Foundation: Attention - Krishna Iyer; Ph: 022-26405411
81/A Chapel Road, Mt. Carmel Church, Behind Lilavati
hospital, Bandra (west), Mumbai – 400050, Maharashtra,
India.
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For Donations to the Jung Center, Ahmedabad:
Dr. Minakshi Parikh
Department of psychiatry, G3 Ward,
B J Medical College and Civil Hospital,
Asarwa, Ahmedabad -380016, Gujarat, India
The India Developing Groups initiative is an Alchemical Process
with its own rhythm. While maintaining a steady momentum of our
efforts in this vast, fast growing, ancient land, I stay open to the
synchronistic happenings to give us the tail winds of the gods. My
gratitude to the Jungian community and other peers, who have generously
donated their time, resources, expertise and feelings to support this effort.
Attached are some of the images of our India activities.
Ashok Bedi, CSJA
IAAP Liaison Person for India


Father Joe Pereira, Dr. B. J. Jakala and Ashok Bedi at the Jung Center, Mumbai
The Jung Centre Ahmedabad
Kusum Dhar Prabhu
The Jung Centre Bangalore