Vedabase - Communication about categorization with Srinivasacarya Prabhu

7 years, 8 months ago by pnd in Special Category B

Resending email to Srinivasacarya Prabhu about categorization as you may found it interesting or have some comment for it:

Hare Krishna Dear Srinivasacarya Prabhu,

OK, I thought I would be able to add categories on my own if you enable permissions. It seems you need pre-defined categories that I could then associate a topic to.

Yes. As suggesting paragraph into categorization can be done by any user we need to have good category tree already created. Otherwise users will create duplicate categories or categories which doesn't give sense.

That categorization will be usable for all, possible to use as filter in search. And once proposed categorization of paragraph/s is accepted by moderator it will be applied in all languages. So person who speaks only Telugu will be able to categorize in Telugu, but it will automatically categories same text in English, Spanish, Russian, Hindi, even in language we don't have yet (as when we will add new content we connect it)

I have plan to add feature which will enable you to do your personal categorization (personal folders) where you will have full freedom to create any categories you want. Although that would be available only for users who did some service for project (e.g. importing books, categorization, moderators) and donors.

I can discuss with Maharaj and come up with some categories but for now if you need some sample categories below are some that I use in my own indexing:

1.       Varṇāśrama-dharma
    a.       Strī-dharma
    b.       Rāja-dharma
    c.       Pati-dharma

2.       Guru-tattva
    a.       Qualities of a guru
    b.       Qualities of a disciple

3.       Philosophical classification
    a.       Epistemology
    b.       Ontology
    c.       Cosmology
    d.       Praxeology

4.       Sāṅkhya
5.       Aṣṭāṅga
6.       Glory of Bhagavatam
7.       Glory of Holy name

Most probably I will add now (in close future) only 2. Guru-tattva (a, b), 6. Glory of SB and 7. Glory of Holy name. As those should be clear for 95% users and most likely should be somewhere in final category tree. Although in final category tree they may not be in top/root level, but as children of top level or some other category..

I realize that creating of category tree will be tremendous task. It may need we create some group of devotees who will plan the tree and slowly transform it into 'final' version. And most probably it will be practical to make 2 trees, One for simple devotees and another one for scholars. Some of categories from both three could be considered as aliases. So for example: paragraph in category Varnasrama :: Raja-dharma would be mirrored in something like Leadership :: Quality of the leader.

And I am aware of my inability of correct word expression of my thoughts and ideas, so most times it is hard or impossible for people to understand what I want to say. But I would try my best to clarify or answer if you have any questions.

Brief summary of categorization:

- categorization of texts is accessible for anybody (possible to use for narrowing down search results)
- any user (except those who has very bad reject rate from moderators) can suggest paragraph into any category from category tree
- any suggestions from any language, will be automatically applied in all languages (as we have connected paragraphs through languages)

ASA - This requires that the Catetegory Label be translated into the othe languages. Also a challenge. 
- any suggestions will be moderated to assure quality
- users cannot create categories, they can only tag category to the text (there will be way to suggest categories, but will be careful process as we don't want to end with 100,000 categories like other project with categories like 'Eggplant', 'Hitler', 'Therefore', etc.. which are not in fact suppose to be categories, but are more like search terms what user write in search page)
- category tree will have ideally as few top-level items as possible (with common sense children, grand-children, ... e.g. subcategory 'quality of guru' you would search under 'guru-tattva', thus easy for people to find wanted category)
- categories will have ability to have defined synonyms (user could search 'arca vigraha', it will suggest him category 'Deity Worship')
- while suggesting categories user will see also his last few recently used categories (so it is faster to select those categories without need of going down through whole tree)

[I think think topic may be interesting for Guru Maharaja, I may copy this email into blog].

HpS - ASA - Yes, very much interesting to us. We are German. We want everything to fit into a Category. Seems like what you are generating is an Index. Our current index of BBT books is in our Archives as asa-ndx.docx.  We have worked on the Index Topics, Categories, for some time and there are some there that might interest you.

I would definitely include Varna-ashrama-dharma (VAD) as one Topic and then the natural Sub-Topics become: Brahman-dharma, Ksatriya-dharma, Vaisya-dharma, Sudra-dharma, Brahmacari-dharma, Grhastha-dharma, Vana-prastha-dharma, Sannyasa-dharma and Stri-dharma.

It is a big area and would require a team, no? BBT books already have indexes for the paper volumes.

Seems you need a Vedabase.io Index Committee. 

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Es un placer para mí enviarle esta carta de recomendación para refugio formal de Bhaktin María de los Ángeles

su aspirante a sirviente 

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HpS - Muchas gracias Prabhu!    We hope to get lots of communication from her and then after six months she can take first initiation!!   Thank you!!

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Visiting Braja

7 years, 8 months ago by sarita108 in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Maharaj!

Pamho! AgtSP!

Thank you for your response on the last letter. I’m engaging in war with my mind every day to get some discipline established. Its tough but doable [to some degree.] Trying to not eat at night so I can wake up in the mornings. Morning programs are nice (best on the rainy days). Will also try to make more FEPS (the notifications are so short notice!)

Somehow managed to get accommodations in Vraja—close to ISKCON temple. I will be splitting the room with another nice girl from the UK.  Krishna is kind. Any recommendations of things to do that aren’t mainstream (of course govardhan, Parikrama, offering ghee lamps, etc…but anything off the beaten path …that Brajvasis do?)

ASA - When you get their just look for new friends at the Temple. When two thieves meet upon the road they need no introduction, they know each other by sight.

Go to the English Gita class in the evenings.

Get some one to take you to the "Old" Radha Govinda Temple. It is the one Rupa Goswami built.  Just sit in a corner and chant and try to imagine what is was like at Janmaastami 500-years ago.
Chant Hare Krsna and wander around with a girl friend. You might meet a Gopi. You might not come back.

Get vdm.docx from our ASA Archives. It is worth $25,000,000. Read it slowly while you are in Vraja.

You asked about father’s spiritual purification. I’m not sure if you’ve known, but my dad’s a Shiva devotee… he still worships Krishna and Vishnu and everything…and he’s encouraging about my spiritual practice but often sees it as a ‘diluted’ version as compared to traditional Hinduism (then again he doesn’t read  so I can’t hold his opinions in high regard) …and he also has been chewing tobacco since his days in the air force and it’s a habit he’s tried to quit so many times but now just accepted it and basically justifies it saying Shiva does it so it’s okay (which is total hogwash in my opinion). He also fasts on Ekadasis and Mondays (yet still chews the tobacco so I doubt there’s progress there…)

So I can’t really gauge his spiritual trajectory. But it is because of him that I had an ‘inkling’ of spiritual practice from a young age. He’d encourage my sister and I to fast and participate in aarti  early mornings and make offerings to the Lord. The tobacco issue is something we’ve beaten to a pulp. No change. I honestly don’t have any expectations either. I just need to be grateful for what’s been provided to me by them. I have friends whose families are very discouraging about Krishna consciousness and am fortunate not to be on that boat.

I doubt I willl cross paths with you in India, but I do wish you the smoothest journey, free of complications.

Please keep shining your grace and mercy Gurudev.

Thank you for your mercy.

Your struggling servant,

Sugopi dd

(P.S. Purnima darshan attached!) 

HpS - Well, get an India SIM card after you arrive and maybe we will see each other. Best preaching is example.

ASA-Encyclopedia, MOE EC member

ND: I downloaded the file, updated it with your 3 new articles, updated the names and uploaded it. Please, can you check it. I left the old file 170810 there in case I messed something up.

Another thing... Did you and devotee from MOE thought to publish/share the Journal online? Websites like Dandavats, https://news.iskcon.org, GBC website are possible good places.

HpS - Thank you very much. Would you like to become a Member of the Executive Committee of the Ministry of Education?

ND: I would like although I am not sure I fit in there . What is the job description?

HpS - Have to like teaching and learning the Srimad Bhagavatam et al.

Urgent once again - From Pune

7 years, 8 months ago by Gopal C Biswas in Calendar Development

Hare Krsna Dear Gurudev,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.
    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    All glories to Guru parampara.

    Thank you so much Gurudev for your call.

    As of, below would be your schedule for Pune.

    Arrival on October 05, 2017 (Thursday) around 05:00 PM (Evening).

HpS - Got the ticket. AGTSP!!  Paoho at your lotus feet (though little dirty like ours, no?). Jet flight arrives 3.15PM from Indoor.

So we can do a program that evening.
Light of the Bhagavata is nice. Got it in quantity?

    October 06, 2017 (Friday) - In Pune
    October 07, 2017 (Saturday) - In Pune
    October 08, 2017 (Sunday) - Will be decide on runtime.

HpS - Rama-giri-dhari Das asks we leave for Mumbai after breakfast Sunday. morning. 

    I would inform temple authority with the above information.

    Thank you so much Gurudev.

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

ASA - Hare Krsna. Oink! We promise to let you keep the key this time.

CCD - Urgent

7 years, 8 months ago by Caitanya candrodaya das in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krsna Dear Gurudeva, AGTSP paoho.

You can call us at +1 209-505-3219. what time i should call you ? where are you now ?

Have you learned from your slip? Yes i have learned and i want to keep doing devotional service , preaching and kirtan forever. 

Will you adjust you life to have the strength to do the Nama and Gayatri Japa?  Yes i will. I feel so bless and fortune to have good association, family and i feel so bless to have you as my Guru. All of you give me the strength to continute in this procces of devotional service and i wish to serve Guru and Gouranga. I know what to do but lamentably sometimes i have to learn by the worst way. i´m sorry Gurudeva, i´m so stupit and unqualified but i know that the only way to get purified is by practicing  Bhakti YOGA. 

Vanca kalpa.

Y/s CCD.

HpS - Try calling anytime except 6-8pm. FE Program then. Thank you so many.