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AgtSP!

paoho... Brown and White here. The first day of the Jungian congress was INCREDIBLE. About 600-attended - seventy percent ladies (21-81 years old). The level of scholarship and artistry was amazing. Jung was amazing. Shonu Shyamdasani was like a giant mountain surrounded by other giant mountains. We felt like a little rat at the foot of the Himalayas.

Beverley Zabrieskii also presented and when it broke for lunch we saluted her and had a short but nice discussion.

So many people have made the connection between Jung's work and their work. Jung and Caitanya-vaisnavism would be one more effort (but the best!).

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We do all this in the middle of a war zone. [BANG! BANG!]

1. We are still on an Indian time mode so in the after-noon we tend to crash and then wake up like now - 7.40PM-11.40PM.
2. Our host, Giridari-priya Das (John Patel) is a super, second generation ISKCON devotee, hero, but he is event-organizer for big people in a large retirement community, so he has his schedule and we have to walk softly not to be a burden on him.
3. Getting around is a challenge. We are a 71-year old ass behind the wheel. The GPS map on our Windows Phone is pretty good, but finding Lot 22 on the U.C. Santa Barbara Campus is a little challenging for it. Fortunately they sent us maps and we can remember them and found the parking garage. The event was programmed into the automated parking system but still we lost $5 on the first round with the robot parking attendant.
4. We learned a lot about Jung's timeline. We chatted with a few people but no intense connections so far. People ask who we are, dressed as Sannyasis. We say Bengali Vaisnavas.
5. During the intense Plenary Session in the morning we listened to, contemplated, Prof. Shamdasani and Beverley's presentations but still it does not arouse our heart intensely. Japaiya sada harih. We were chanting on beads the whole time.

Our other ASA and MOE work is greatly reduced. We are trying to find our place in Srila A. C. Bhakti-vedanta Swami's orchestra.

O.K. . . . 12.06AM. Lettuce chant on beads. Vidya-vadu-jivanam. Plans will come from the Name. Bhava, perspective, will come from the Name.

HARE KRSNA. HARE RAMA. JAYA SRI VRNDAVANA DHAMA.

12.30AM

We just finished a three page long DTC. Pushed the wrong key and erased the whole thing! Here it is again (Niscayad - NOI 3). Got to Santa Barbara after a long, hard trip. We are Tom Brown and Buck White, riding Brother Ass.

Every day in Houston was filled with Temple and MOE work, two to three hours, etc.

On the trip here we met Omir from Pakistan, a flight attendant, university graduate, who dreamed of becoming a Monk last night. To our Trained Ear (AGTSP!!!!) his story was so natural, so we told him our story (SB 1.6) and HAD A LOB IN OUR CMDD's BRIEF-CASE and gave it to him with the Web-page address and changed planes. "Write to our Blog!"

In transit between airplanes we got on The Last Great Window's Phone (LGWF) and booked a car ($243 for four days!) and then met Prof. Angelo and Christina Novokovitch in the Boarding Line. They were also going to the Jung Congress. She was Young, Beautiful, Intelligent, Intuitive (Battle Stations, Battle Stations, Alarms, Alarms, Kingon Cruiser 3,000 meters!). Taking our seat we noticed that all the women on the Executive Jet to St. Barbara were Young, Beautiful, Intelligent and dressed in black! Prof. Angelo came back our seat and ofered us some raisins and nuts from a newly opened bag.

At the luggage pick-up we met Prof. again and he walked us to the Rental Car Counter and hung out with us. We didn't have to say anything: Welcome to the family (Awwwk! Alarms!)

Into the rental car with a 71-year old Ass behind the wheel. Almost ran over three other donkeys on the way to Giri-vara-dhari-priyas Das' home.

He is very, very, very nice Gurjurati body devotee, disciple of Bh. Caru Swami.

Back in the car. Off to the Bank. Almost ran over six other donkeys: Can't send wire transfers to Peru after 1.00PM. Awwwk! The Congress is daily starting tomorrow.

Back to our Campsite: Fruit, nuts, raisins, 1955-historical documentary on YouTube. Crash (As usual, one week later, we still have Jet-lag!) and up at 11.01 PM to bashfully greet GPD going to bed (like a sane man).

12.43PM - Rewrote this DTC. Saved it to PND's Blog three times, mot just the clip board.

We feel guilty that we are not great devotees. Guess we are neither great nor gruesome devotees. Just devotees. We push when the modes are light with our Satsvarupa Goswami like character. AGTSP, we are all becoming great devotees.

CALENDAR - !! Today is Amavasya here, not in Delhi. Kapi-dhvaja goes out today with Viplavha, $$$ etc. etc. Will be time to wire money on Friday. Leave the conference.

Now let us find water. Sri Visnu. Sip it and chant five rounds, review ART Das "Art and the Sacred" video, M. Champaka-lata Devi Dasi's "Gurukula Standards" proposal, nap and FMP.

Hare Krsna. Rewrite. 1.00AM

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, please accept my humble obeisances

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

All Glories to Hanumatpresaka Swami!!

1.      By the Mercy of Nitay-Gaura we have resumed relations with the Embassy of India for, the sending to Calcutta, of the DIPLOMA OF HONOR and CHARTER OF RECOGNITION of the Faculty of Letters and Human Sciences of the University of San Marcos to the Dr. Samaresh Bandyopadhyay, this could be achieved by showing the ambassador, with photos and documents, how the Embassy of India has always participated in our events (this favors its prestige and the bi-national relations between Peru and India).

HpS - Thank you for this effort! It is so valuable to all of us. Please send our regards to His Excellency and tell him that we are at his service and hope to meet him in June.

2.      On Tuesday, March 26, we had a very good meeting in the rectory, specifically, we are fine-tuning the FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT the National University of San Marcos and NIOS. There is an important difference between the previous agreement, which was a SPECIFIC AGREEMENT between the School of Arts of San Marcos and NIOS, however, this, FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT, is with the University of San Marcos represented by the Rector and NIOS (that is, with this Framework Agreement, NIOS can carry out academic and cultural events not only with the Faculty of Arts but with the more than 60 faculties that San Marcos has), Thank you to Krishna Tuesday April 9 (day of the Apparition of Ramanuja acarya) we will be signing the Convention .

HpS - Again, thank you, Miguel, everyone. With one signature so many weeks of hard work is finished. Of course, with this agreement we can proudly approach so many other institutions.

3.      JAYAM No 3 we could not present it in Gaura-purnima (two articles were missing) for his mercy we hope to make it as an offering for Lord Ramacandra in Ramanavami.

Next, the content of JAYAM No 3:

1. GRADUATE STUDIES IN KRISHNA BHAKTI GROWING. By SG Garuda p. (USA)

2. SASTRICOS STUDIES AND HIGHER EDUCATION. By Karunya Nitai (Ecuador)

3. A BHAGAVATA PHILOSOPHY OF EDUCATION. By Radhika-Ramana (USA-India)

4. IS UNIVERSITY EDUCAITON A SIN. By HpS (USA)

5. THREE SCENARIOS OF THE SASTRICA EDUCATION. By Gopi-Radha d., Govinda Pramodini d. and Lalita-gopi d. (Mexico)

6. HOW OTHERS TEACH. By Patraka d. (Peru)

7. EMPIRICAL REALITY IN SĀŃKHYA PHILOSOPHY. By Ṛṣirāja d. (India)

 HpS - Tapan misra Das, President of Executive Committee of MOE is in touch with Gandharva Das now, who is Regional Representative of MOE in Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia.

News of the MOE

8. REPORT OF THE INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION SYMPOSIUM, February 26 and 27, MAYAPUR-INDIA. By Mathuresa d. (Bolivia)

9. REPRESENTATION OF THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION IN ECUADOR, BOLIVIA AND PERU. By Gandharva d. (Perú)

To finish this report, we spoke with Miguel Polo and the Rector's adviser about which date is best for you to come to Lima, to do the preliminary events to the International Symposium THE EDUCATION AND THE SACRED (to be held the last week of October or the first week of November) and our suggestion is that you come from the first fortnight June, is it ok?

HpS - Then June 1st to 15th for Peru and end of the month for Bolivia, then.... Argentina in July.

 Hare Krishna GURUDEVA, your insignificant servant, Abhirama Thakura dasa.

2do. informe LA EDUCACIÓN Y LO SAGRADO

1.      Por la Misericordia de Nitay-Gaura hemos retomado las relaciones con la embajada de la India para el envío a Calcuta de la DIPLOMA DE HONOR y CARTA DE RECONOCIMIENTO de la Facultad de Letras y Ciencias Humanas de la Universidad de San Marcos al Dr. Samaresh Bandyopadhyay, esto se pudo lograr mostrando, al embajador, con fotos y documentos, como la embajada de la India siempre ha participado de nuestros eventos (esto favorece a su prestigio y a las relaciones binacionales entre Perú y La India).

2.      El martes 26 de marzo tuvimos una muy buena reunión en el rectorado, específicamente, estamos afinando el CONVENIO MARCO entre la Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos y NIOS. Hay una diferencia importante entre el anterior convenio, que era un CONVENIO ESPECÍFICO entre la Facultad de Letras de San Marcos y NIOS, en cambio, este CONVENIO MARCO es con la Universidad de San Marcos representada por él Rector y NIOS (es decir, con este Convenio Marco, NIOS puede realizar eventos académicos y culturales no solo con la Facultad de Letras sino con las más de 60 facultades que tiene San Marcos), Krishna mediante el martes 9 de abril (día de la Aparición de Ramanuja acarya) estaremos firmando el Convenio.

3.      JAYAM No 3 no la pudimos presentar en Gaura-purnima (faltaron entregar dos artículos) por su misericordia esperamos hacerlo como una ofrenda para el Señor Ramacandra en Ramanavami.

A continuación, el contenido de JAYAM No 3:

1.      CRECIMIENTO DE LOS ESTUDIOS DE POSGRADO EN KRISHNA BHAKTI. Por SG Garuda p. (USA)

2.      ESTUDIOS SASTRICOS Y EDUCACIÓN SUPERIOR. Por Karunya Nitai (Ecuador)

3.      LA FILOSOFÍA BHAGAVATA DE LA EDUCACIÓN. Por Radhika-Ramana (USA-India)

4.      ES LA EDUCACIÓN UNIVERSITARIA UN PECADO. Por HpS (USA)

5.      TRES ESCENARIOS DE LA EDUCACIÓN SASTRICA. Por Gopi-Radha d., Govinda Pramodini d. y Lalita-gopi d. (México)

6.      CÓMO LOS OTROS ENSEÑAN. Por Patraka d. (Perú)

7.      REALIDAD EMPIRICA EN LA FILOSOFIA SĀŃKHYA. Por Ṛṣirāja d. (India)

Noticias d

el MOE

8.      REPORTE DEL SIMPOSIO INTERNACIONAL DE EDUCACIÓN / 26 y 27 de febrero / MAYAPUR-INDIA. Por Mathuresa d. (Bolivia)

9.      REPRESENTACIÓN DEL MINISTERIO DE EDUCACIÓN EN ECUADOR, BOLIVIA Y PERÚ. Por Gandharva d. (Perú)

Para terminar es

te informe, conversamos con Miguel Polo y la asesora del Rector acerca de que fecha es mejor para que usted venga a Lima, para hacer los eventos preliminares al Simposio Internacional LA EDUCACION Y LO SAGRADO (a realizarse la última semana de octubre o la primera semana de noviembre) y nuestra sugerencia es que Usted venga la primera quincena Junio, ¿está bien? ¿Es posible?

Muchas

graci

as GURUDEVA, su insignificante sirviente, Abhirama Thakura dasa.

HpS - NGD, what do you think of the following Expenses and Budget. I think that it is very, very minimal and NIOS should certainly pay these, but also hope we can get our accounting more organized so that we can contribute even more in the future!!

On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 11:18:40 AM CDT, Alejandro Salazar Rodríguez wrote:

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, please accept my humble obeisances

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!

All glories to Hanumatpresaka Swami!!

This is the budget up to the stage of signing the Agreement between San Marcos and NIOS and the contribution of NIOS to the publication of JAYAM No 3:

1. US 300 for the editing and finishing the video of THE ART AND THE SACRED Bilingual.

2. US 600 secretary, stationery, transportation and communications (this covers 4 months: January, February, March and April 2019).

3. US 150 contribution of NIOS for JAYAM No. 3

TOTAL: 300   600   150 = 1050

Hare Krishna Gurudeva, your insignificant servant, Abhirama Thakura das.

Hare Krishna Beloved Gurudeva:

AGTSP, PAMHO

Finally U are back to the USA soon yeee, JAY

Well, the thing is, this for me it is really funny, because nowadays I am more mature and with all the things that I had to pass in this life of being a Hare Krsna, for me this is ridiculuos.

The thing is that I just shared on facebook one notification that says: ISKCON Abhisekas en el templo - ISKCON Ministerio de Adoración de Deidades

The article I am going to post here in another letter, but the main thing is that the notification said that just a few qualified Brahmanas must do the abhisekas, and the devotee XX das felt insulted because in Wilson the Abhishekas are in charge of him and he was allowing that non vegetarian people bathe the deities, but I just shared the notification I did not insult or attack him, but he to say that who am I? (well yes I am nothing, I was just sharing one post from the Minister of worship in ISKCON), that I wasn't keeping my initiation vows for some time in the past and bla bla bla , so I was just smiling.

I just want you to inform that, because now they have started again to talk about my past, etc.

HpS - If you have been honest about not being able to keep four principles and chant 16-nice rounds daily for some time in the past, then that is more than many people, disciples, do. They are unable to follow strictly at some time but never communicate it to the proper authorities and then it is questionable if they have purified themselves of the reaction. Vyasadeva was in a fallen condition when his Guru Narada arrived and then he asked how to become purified - Ajamila, Daksa, Diti. We should not fall down, but if we do we should apologize and get up. Not that we publicly broadcast these problems, NIO-5, but communicate them with the proper devotees. Jaya!

Well if I see something that is not good I am not going to be an accomplice, well if people do not like me in Wilson Ramanavami is coming I will go there. Gaura Nitai is also there.

HpS - In many temples general public is allowed to bathe the Deities of Gaura Nitai and even Jagannatha. I don't know what standard the Ministry is presenting. Certainly we adjust according to their instructions.

My mom is much better it seems to be a miracle, the power of prayers. JAYA RAMA!

HpS - Better! Haw! Haw! Only better is when we give up this body, no?

Hope to see U soon

Trying to be your disciple

Candramukhi dd

HpS - Thank you for this letter. We know that it is tough in Kali yuga for girls, boys, cows and old men but . . . because of that Krsna personally takes care of them! Jaya!

Maharaj Dude,

Joking about the dude part but I thought it was quite funny when you mentioned it last letter. :) Probably inappropriate on my part.

HpS - We appreciate it from a sincere person!

PAMHO

AGTSP

HK

I hope your health is well and you are in good spirit.

HpS - We are dying of old age. It started about 71-years ago. We are in good spirits because we hope to have a better body for Sankirtan in Srila Prabhupada's Sankirtan in the future.

Currently I am 2 months following Hari nam initiation requirements. Waking at 3:30am, Mangala Arati, Kirtan, 16 rounds as nice as we can in the morning, SB class (Srila Prabhupada lecture), 4 regs. Finishing up reading YEW. Listening to Amala Bhakta Swami's Krsna book narration and in the 51st chapter. I have read now the SB intro of Lord Caitanya and NOI. Next either Science of Self Realization or LOB . Trying to get in at least 1 hour of reading in each day, goal of 2 hours daily. Trying to please Nitai-Guaranga and Srila Prabhupada (photo attached).

We are currently going to Iskcon Hillsboro (Suburb of Portland) every Sunday. The Temple President there is JaiSacinandan Prabhu and he is very nice. We come an hour early, start Kirtan with the family and encourage other devotees to come. Alicia is doing Sunday School very nicely and kids really enjoy her as a teacher. JaiSacinandan Prabhu is engaging us in helping with events. Right now I am helping find a venue for a youth Kirtan seminar where Bada Hari Prabhu and Amala Harinam Prabhu will be attending in June. Its a simple task but we hope to do it nicely, maybe Krsna will give us more service. Inspired by your book distribution we talked to JaiSacinandan about starting book distribution where we encourage devotees to take a BG and distribute it any way they are inspired to. Then each week we encourage them to get another at the temple and distribute it. The books are already sponsored or the temple will pay for them, so no pressure on the devotees to sale but just try to be inspired to get Srila Prabhupada's books out. Then we can try to find ways to inspire devotees to see more books being distributed if it goes well.

The whole family we are visiting Boise March 27-April 1st. Alicia and I are discussing moving back to Boise or to a community. Something with some more association for her and the kids. Where we are now in Salem we are about a hour and 20 mins from the temple and there is 1 devotee family anywhere close. She thinks it will help her KC and the kids. I believe my position is support our wife and kids in their KC so I am just trying to be encouraging, engage them in KC activites and not stick my foot in my mouth (which I do a lot, a lot lot). Trying to learn to control the tongue. Mostly trying to get out of Krsna's way so he can do his thing and we can make advancement doing our things for him.

Then during your visit there I will likely come for a 4-5 days with just myself if it is alright.

HpS - Sounds great.

I would like if it isnt trouble to attend with you any programs that allow, or anytime that allows. For instance lunch home visits to devotees and such. I wont be a bother,

HpS - Seems fine.

O. K. I will do my very best not to be a bother, but I would like to be there in your company if possible. I can even sit out side the door or where ever I can be within ear distance I hope. Or whatever way I can be in service please. Your assoiciation is very inspiring for us in desiring to be apart of Srila Prabhupada's mission.

Thank you for your association Maharaj and please forgive me for my offenses.

Your aspiring servant,

Bhakta Big Foot (Nathen)

ASA - Dear Mr. Big foot. What was your father like? Like you? Mother's Grandfather. Your activities in Portland sound very, very nice. Make a program you can maintain for a planned time eg. readering standard for one month, two weeks.

What is your phone number. We will not publish it.

Do you own a weed whipper? Respects to your family. Did you see the article on Sunday School teachers in the Viplavah mentioned in the last Kapi Dhvaja?