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5 years, 8 months ago by hps in Special Category A

AGTSP paoho! Is O.K?

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NIOS MEETS NANTES

The door opened and out came a very congenial scholar. We had some trepidation because before we’ve met some powerful Jungian scholars but some have been chain smokers and others angry and arrogant. . .

Ooof!

Quite a relief. Then Professor Nantes took us across the Baroque lobby into his office, which was lined with books and beautiful artifacts to the ceiling. The fresh morning air of Buenos Aires came in through the window, cars hummed by as they went to work. There were ourselves, Hp Swami and three young students.

“Have you heard of E. T. Hall?”

“Have you read Jung in India?”

We have been trying to meet Dr. Bernardo Nantes, the founder of Fundacion Vocacion Humano, Dean of Universidad del Salvador, translator of C. G. Jung’s Redbook for three years ( and Shonu Shyamdasani of the University of London, co-founder of the Philemon Foundation, for at least seven years).

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In Dialectical Spiritualism, Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, Prabhupada, offers commentaries, on summaries, of the ideas of many, many Western philosophers. These summaries were presented by two of his educated students. The very last philosopher presented was Dr. C. G. Jung:

Prof. Howard Wheeler: That ends our session on Jung.

Srila Prabhupada: So far, he seems the most sensible!

If we take our NIOS work as building bridges between the classical worlds of the Orient and Occident, then Prabhupada’s comment along with Jung’s that follows is simply compelling.

“... if you go to other races, to India or China, for example, you discover that these people are conscious of things for which the psychoanalyst in our countries has to dig for months.”

“We Europeans are not the only people on the earth. We are just a peninsula of Asia, and on that continent there are old civilizations where people have trained their minds in introspective psychology for thousands of years, whereas we began with our psychology not even yesterday but only this morning. These people have an insight that is simply fabulous...”

Jung, C. G.; Analytical Psychology, Its Theory & Practice; Vintage Books, 1970, pages 48 & 74

Please join this work. If you are like us you had some little contact with Carl Jung during your undergraduate university studies. It is enough to pique interest but seemingly superficially presented. If you continue to be like us then you read the above quote in Dialectical Spiritualism and you are motivated but don’t know how to approach Prof. Jung and his followers in more depth. Of course books are the basis, so here is a suggested reading list. It’s interesting that everyone who I know who has read the books has also found them challenging for their personal spiritual development and mental hygiene. They can all be found at Amazon:

·      The Tavistock Lectures,

·      Memories, Dreams and Reflections (Auto-Biography),

·      The Kundalini Lectures.

·      Carl Jung and the Making of Modern Psychology – The Dream of a Science (Take it slowly. It is a look at the development of all of Western thought on psychology during Jung’s lifetime),

·      Introduction to the Redbook by Prof. Shonu Shamdasani (Buy the text only version of the Redbook)

·      . . .and now we are reading Jung in India.

Besides the books there are the people: Beverley Zabrieskii, Paticia Llosa, Maximilian Peralta. We have been able to meet so many, and then we attended a three day symposium on Art and the Creative Intelligence at U.C. Santa Barbara and were swimming in an ocean of youth, old age, various nations, intense scholarship, social awareness and compassion, artistic creativity, money.

Maybe you are not like us. Maybe you are coming from the other side of The Bridge. Our preferred lecture title has been: Science, Psyche and Spirituality, the Encounter of Prof. C. G. Jung with the Mysticism of Ancient India. As soon as you start talking about the mysticism, philosophy, religion, Yoga of ancient India you are diving into an ocean of traditions, practices, living examples.

If you want good food, go to Italy; romance, France; machines, Germany; but if you want Philosophy, India.

Sanskrit

George L. Harte, University of California

A Rapid Sanskrit Method

Motilal Banarsidass, Dehli, 1989

Preface

“It [sanskrita]is, like Chinese, Arabic, Greek and Latin, one of the few languages which has been a carrier of a culture over a long period of time. 

Thus, the variety of writings in it, and the quantity of those writings are staggering. An incomplete list of subjects treated in Sanskrit, usually with great prolixity, is as follows:

·      The four Vedas

·      The Brahmanas and Aranyakas

·      The Upanisads

·      Grammar

·      Epic, puranic, literature - Including 18 major puranas, 18 minor puranas, and hundred of sthalapuranas.

·      Works on Medicine

·      Logic

·      Astronomy & Astrology

·      Mathematics

·      Lawbooks

·      Architecture

·      Music…

On most of these subjects, there is an immense literature still extant. Indeed, a rough estimate of the works which will be listed in The New Catalogus Catalogorum yields a total of about 160,000 works… many so difficult that it would take years of study to properly understand them.…Sanskrit does have its share of great writers: Kalidasa ranks with the greatest poets, Panini is without question the greatest pre-modern grammarian, the Mahabharata ranks with the Iliad and the Odyssey, and the Bhagavata-purana is among the finest works of devotion every written, being equaled in my opinion only by other works in Indian languages.”

Of course, the Britannica article is a good place to start if you have no experience with India philosophy and mysticism (which I doubt): https://www.britannica.com/topic/Indian-philosophy.

Then if you have a little preliminary faith and can accept our advice we would recommend our own tradition of Bengali or Chaitanya Vaisnavism. It is centered around the above mentioned Bhagavata-purana and is based in tradition upon Srila Rupa Goswami’s 16th century Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu of which Professor David Haberman, Indiana University, has produced an excellent translation. The Introduction to his translation is worth a million dollars, tracing the entire tradition from Bharata Muni, before Christ, on up to even modern times. At Amazon.com it clocks in at around $101 but maybe you can find it in your research library of even try to contact us. It is 752-pages so if you want a simpler path we would suggest:

·      Light of the Bhagavata.

·      The Nectar of Instruction,

·      The Teachings of Lord Caitanya.

These are all on line at www.vedabase.com and can be purchased in hard-copy at www.Krishna.com .

Are you interested in crossing the Bridge to buy and sell?  Are you interested in waking up.

An Englishman saw three people doing the same thing. He asked the first one:

“What are doing?”

The fellow answered, “Can’t you see, you damn fool! I’m laying bricks. Leave me alone”.

“Sorry, please forgive me.”

Then he asked the second man, who was doing the same thing:

“What are you doing?”

The man paused and replied, “I’m making money, take care of my family”.

English man thanked him and asked the third Johnny, “I say old chap, what are you doing?”, and the man looked up and said, “Oh, it’s very interesting. Today we are putting up the wall that goes behind the altar, and after a couple of days when it is set, the marble masons will come and hang the marble. My children are very small now, but when they are bigger I will bring them here and show them how I helped to build this great Cathedral!”.

DTC Wed 21

5 years, 8 months ago by hps in DTC

Kids will say (AGTSP paoho!), "My Daddy can kill your Daddy"/

Kanistha adhikaris will say, "Allah can kill Jehovah"/

Maybe my Daddy doesn't want to kill your Daddy. Maybe Allah is Jehovah.

Unless we stop smoking cigar-ettes etc. we can never understand our Daddy's nor our God.

KRSNA! KRSNA! , KRSNA! KRSNA!, kRSNA kRSNA, KRSNA He!

= = = = =n=n == b= b= = = =

Just answered several letters. Now must chant more Japa and offer Srila Prabhupada tea and cookies. Then we have our article to write for Viplavah/Solaris. We will post it here for your advice.

Thank you!

We hope your Daddy doesn't want to kill my Daddy.

We hope we see everyone's service as a chance for me to increase my service!!

Mis primeros pasos

5 years, 8 months ago by evergimenez in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna.

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada.

Acepte por favor mis reverencias.

Quiero agradecerle por responder esta carta, y la alegría inmensa que esto provocó en mi, siempre es una inspiricacion y una bendición el poder tener alguna asociación con un ud.


Leí lo q ud me mando, y quería contarle que si hace mas de un año canto todos los días canto mis 16 rondas, no puedo negar que tengo una mente inquieta que lucha contra esto.


Que sigo los 4 pincipios hace ya un tiempo. 

Tengo la fortuna de poder participar de sus programas del SB a través de Go meeting, dado a no poder hacerlo físicamente con los devotos, por obligaciones de trabajo.

Si poder leer todos los días un poco del conocimiento que nos dejó Srila Prabhupada.

Quiero contarle que no me encuentro en la ciudad de mar del plata.

Y que asisto con regularidad a programas de Krishna West, dados por prabhu Garuda das, quien es encargado aquí en Bs As, y que intentó asistir a las fiestas de domingo en el templo de aquí en Bs As.

Tmb quiero contarle que voy a iniciar este domingo un curso de Introduccion al Bhakti facilitado por  Prabhu Citrak Das.


Espero poder ayudarlo en su misión y que pueda guiarme en este conocimiento.


Su fiel aspirante.

HpS - Muy bien! No puedo recordar Vd. exactamente!!! Conductor de trenes???? Aparece que esta en el sendero correcto. Solamente tiene que incrementar su velocidad. Tooot! Tooot! Haz su regresa a Krsna mas rapido, pero no deja el sendero!! Es un arte.

Su consejo por favor

5 years, 8 months ago by Asta Sakhi Devi Dasi in Other

Querido Gurumaharaja 

Por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias!

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada! 

Oramos para que Sri Nrsimhadeva siempre proteja a Sri Guru. 

Últimamente he tenido algunas experiencias que me llevan a cuestionar algunas cosas.

Recientemente una madre pujari me quito un servicio con mentiras, mentiras que me hicieron poner en dudas la veracidad del jefe de pujari quien parece ser un caballero, así que no sé si mi actitud estuvo peor que la mentira. 

Si bien es cierto todos anhelamos un servicio y tenemos el derecho de luchar por el, pero esto se ve turbio cuando hay falta de veracidad. 

Por otro lado, anteriormente, me tocó asistir a un Istha gosthi en donde tuvimos que presenciar muchos desacuerdos de nuestra comunidad de devotos mayores, todos enfocados a una buena causa, el bienestar del templo, pero habían tantas versiones y cada quien defendía su verdad. 

Como devota menor traté de apegarme a la etiqueta vaisnava y mantener una posición neutral y tratar de entender que hay razones fuertes de nuestros mayores, felizmente tuve otro servicio y pude retirarme más temprano, es triste ver actitudes y escuchar palabras ásperas incluso de menores a mayores o de caballeros o las damas, como Usted nos ha aconsejado "únicamente Krsna y Balarama matan a los demonios en Vrndavana"  

Considerando la gran importancia del fin de estas situaciones, que no se cuestiona y se entiende perfectamente, que tan saludable puede ser para la vida espiritual de un tercero como yo, neófito, que no aporta nada, presenciar estas situaciones? 

Cada verdad es bien fundamentada y siempre hay no menos de 2 versiones, debo creer , debo dudar ? 

Queda refugiarse en Sri Guru, las Escrituras sagradas y los Santos Nombres. 

Recuerdo más o menos una historia que Usted contó:

Había un burro... este burro no sabía decir no a nadie ni nada. Nunca decía que no y todo aceptaba.

Un día alguien se le acercó a la oreja y le dijo algo, de inmediato el burro movió la cabeza y orejas en señal negativa. Todos sorprendidos porque el burro había rechazado una petición.

Cuando preguntaron que se le había dicho para que reaccione con tal determinación, dijeron que le habían preguntado al burro "si podía ser presidente del templo" 

Su torpe pero eterna aspirante a sirviente 

Asta Sakhi dd ( otro burro )

HpS - Hemos pasado dias fuertes en casi la misma conflictos en administracion en Peru. Oooof! Si puede ayudar Krsna y Balarama, muy bien. Si, no, puede tomar refugio abajo de la cama.

Si alguien es ofensiva, codicioso, en su servcio, desea fama, comodo... podemos entender que tiene un apego material, y sus amigos y enimigos son todo an ilusion creado por Maya y su mente.

No preocupamos lo que dice un hombre loco. Es locura. Evitar convertir en enimigo de nuestra enimigos y ver cual es su delusion, apego, y como podemos ayudar ellos, y posible entonces ellos puede ayudar nosotros con nuestras apegos. Muchos ciegos regresando al cielo.

O.K???

Fechas para México

5 years, 8 months ago by Asta Sakhi Devi Dasi in Calendar Development

Querido Gurumaharaja 

Por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias!

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada! 

11 al 18 de Diciembre 2019 parece bien para México , muchas gracias por tanta misericordia. 

Empezaremos a trabajar en la organización. 

A prácticamente una semana del auspicioso y trascendental Sri Vyasa-Puja apelamos por la oportunidad de una celebración previa más íntima al estilo mexicano : ) un picnic! Por favor Gurumaharaja.

Los devotos siempre anhelan verlo, Diciembre es buen mes, tambien el Templo tiene sankirtaneros y en ocasiones se organizan campamentos en el mismo Templo para devotos nuevos. Hablare con las autoridades que se encargan de esas areas para conocer los proyectos.

Su eterna aspirante a sirviente 

Asta Sakhi dd. 

HpS - Si, como participar en El Sankirtan. Es buena fecha para diagolos intra fe tambien por que es Christmas, Hanneka y Ramadan, no?

Tambien hay tres Magos del Oriente llavando regalos a Jesus (BG etc.)

8 sakhis

5 years, 8 months ago by Asta Sakhi Devi Dasi in Special Category A

Querido Gurumaharaja 

Por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias!

Todas las glorias a Srila Prabhupada! 

Recién puedo escribir las preguntas respecto al color de vestido de Lalita Sakhi y las otras 7 grandes maestras .

Es verdad que el color azul del sari de Srimati Radharani no existe en el mundo material? 

HpS - No se. Claro su saree es una persona, no?

Sucede lo mismo con los colores de saris de las 8 grandes maestras? 

HpS - Pienso que si. Es como un reflejo de algo en una espejo. Hay distortion. Sus sarees son consiente, no?

Gracias por sus enseñanzas Gurumaharaja. 

Su eterna aspirante a sirviente 

Asta Sakhi dd 

HpS - Sri Radha, Sri Hari, Asta-sakhi, Yamuna!