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Hare Krishna Guru Maharaja Encontre esta carta de Srila Prabhupada en un libro de Mahanidi Swami, Pienso Usted me puede Ayudar.Y depues puse un texto completo de Srimad Bhagavatam
Los Angeles
4 December, 1968
68-12-04
My Dear Sivananda,
Please accept my blessings. I have received your most recent letter (undated) and have noted the contents. I am so happy that by next week you will move into our new temple site and that you and Krishna das shall both be working so there will be no difficulty in financing. It is all Krishna's Grace.
So far as Acyutananda and Jaya Govinda, yes one of you may write to invite them to your temple in Hamburg. In this connection I have already dispatched one letter to them and I am still awaiting their reply.
Regarding your first question, is it offensive to think of Krishna's Pastimes while chanting, I think you should know that it is not offensive, but rather it is required. One must try for the point when he simply hears Krishna and immediately all of Krishna, His Pastimes, His Form, His Quality, are in his thoughts. So to always be immersed in thoughts of Krishna this is our process. When we are full in Krishna then where there can be any chance for maya in us? So this is our duty to remember Krishna's Pastimes. One who cannot remember Krishna, let him always hear Hare Krishna and then when he has perfected this art, then always he will remember Krishna, His Activities, His Qualities, etc.
It is progressive... (NOI 7 & 8).. During Japa make the chanting first. Nama.. rupa... If we chant sincerely the Name will BRING the Form and that will BRING the Qualities, Pastimes. That is our experience, understanding.
The answer to your second question is that when one becomes accustomed to inoffensive chanting, then his fruit is that he is promoted to the stage of pure Love of Godhead, or prema. This prema is the perfectional stage of consciousness and the most blissful by very far.
So far as singing of the Christian hymns, if others sing this we have no objection, it is very nice, but in these hymns they have no definite idea of what is God. We are directly approaching and praying to Krishna for the highest benediction of eternal devotional service so we do not require to repeat the Christian hymns. Our point is to always follow the example of the acaryas and this will bring us to the perfectional stages with no doubt. For the Christian hymn you describe, the example may be given of where one person is appreciating that water is very nice and another is tasting water. So when we taste water the appreciation automatically is there and when we have taste for chanting, automatically the appreciation is there for God.
I hope that you are well along with Krishna Das and Uttama Sloka. Please keep me informed of progress with our Hamburg center.
Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
NB: You may write to Jaya Govinda at
Indraprastha Gaudiya Math
Dina Ka Talab,
Malkaganj
Delhi-6
India
Also Acyutananda at Radha Damodara temple Seba-Kunja, P.O. Vrindaban Dist: Mathura India.
Srimad Bhagavatam 2.7.53
The Lord's activities in association with His different energies should be described, appreciated and heard in accordance with the teachings of the Supreme Lord. If this is done regularly with devotion and respect, one is sure to get out of the illusory energy of the Lord.
PURPORT
The science of learning a subject matter seriously is different from the sentiments of fanatics. Fanatics or fools may consider the Lord's activities in relation with the external energy to be useless for them, and they may falsely claim to be higher participants in the internal energy of the Lord, but factually the Lord's activities in relation with the external energy and the internal energy are equally good. On the other hand, those who are not completely free from the clutches of the Lord's external energy should devoutly hear regularly about the activities of the Lord in relation with the external energy. They should not foolishly jump up to the activities of the internal energy, falsely attracted by the Lord's internal potential activities like His räsa-lélä. The cheap reciters of the Bhägavatam are very much enthusiastic about the Lord's internal potential activities, and the pseudodevotees, absorbed in material sense enjoyment, falsely jump to the stage of liberated souls and thus fall down deeply into the clutches of external energy.
Some of them think that to hear about the pastimes of the Lord means to hear about His activities with the gopés or about His pastimes like lifting the Govardhana Hill, and they have nothing to do with the Lord's plenary expansions as the puruñävatäras and Their pastimes of the creation, maintenance or annihilation of the material worlds. But a pure devotee knows that there is no difference between the pastimes of the Lord, either in räsa-lélä or in creation, maintenance or destruction of the material world. Rather, the descriptions of such activities of the Lord as the puruñävatäras are specifically meant for persons who are in the clutches of the external energy. Topics like the räsa-lélä are meant for the liberated souls and not for the conditioned souls. The conditioned souls, therefore, must hear with appreciation and devotion the Lord's pastimes in relationship with the external energy, and such acts are as good as the hearing of räsa-lélä in the liberated stage. A conditioned soul should not imitate the activities of liberated souls. Lord Çré Caitanya never indulged in hearing the räsa-léla with ordinary men.
In the Çrémad-Bhägavatam, the science of God, the first nine cantos prepare the ground for hearing the Tenth Canto. This will be further explained in the last chapter of this canto. In the Third Canto it will be more explicit. A pure devotee of the Lord, therefore, must begin reading or hearing Çrémad-Bhägavatam from the very beginning, and not from the Tenth Canto. We have several times been requested by some so-called devotees to take up the Tenth Canto immediately, but we have refrained from such an action because we wish to present Çrémad-Bhägavatam as the science of Godhead and not as a sensuous understanding for the conditioned souls. This is forbidden by such authorities as Çré Brahmäjé. By reading and hearing Çrémad-Bhägavatam as a scientific presentation, the conditioned souls will gradually be promoted to the higher status of transcendental knowledge after being freed from the illusory energy based on sense enjoyment.
Thus end the Bhaktivedanta purports of the Second Canto, Seventh Chapter, of the Çrémad-Bhägavatam, entitled "Scheduled Incarnations with Specific Functions."
Mi deseo no es ser un sentimentalista o querer adentrarme mas al rasa lila sin la conciencia correcta, aunque se que las grandes almas son sirvientes en ese lugar, mi deseo es comprender mas a Radha y Krishna. Todo esto es por que quiero tener mayor apego mejores rondas y mayor desapego del mundo.
Este topico de meditar en los pasatiempos entre los devotos con los cuales yo estoy es como una desvicion , mas en realidad ninguno sabe muy bien de esto o cuando es esto desviado o como hacer tal practica.
Estas preguntas son relebantes para poder cambiar mi corazon, se que Usted en algun momento se va a IR del mundo y no voy a saber a quien Preguntar, y en un futuro todas estas cosas son con las que vamos a lidiar
Siempre FIel a Sus enseñanzas y a Srila Prabhupada
Su sirviente Adi Yajña Das
ASA - Hare Krsna, Hare Rama! Seguimos los 4-principios buenos y cantamos 16-rondas entusiastas y podemos confiar en nuestra inspiracion y interpretacion de los ensnanzas de SP (libros)... Super alma, Sadhu Sanga. Estamos bien protegidos..! ! ! Adelante con su mision. Va a tomar Sannyasa? How is your English study?
report aug 2012
PAMHO,AGTSP,
Jay Hanuman, hello to TB, BW and UG who help you a lot in your activities.
ASA - AgtSP paoho.... Whoop! Whoop!, Oink! Oink!, e=mc*2
Your glorious self are hard to found
ASA - Because by illusion we are bound,
, even if we spend every pound, vist the world all around, in our life which is time bound.
ASA - To mundane sound..
...you have appeared as sun in our life, otherwise we were living only in strife.
...with our kittens and wife.
you have given so much to this horse, even though it troubled you very coarse.
.. neigh nay..
we pray that your legs get treated finally, but seeing your sadhana level in such state, we find a soldier in you who continues fight even after serious injury. Hail HpS!!!!!!!! Here is our tiny report..
Sadhana
1. Attempting to apply the 130 am formula, and the 8 golden words. But finding practically difficult as horse likes to sleep. but struggle is going to apply this formula. 4 rules intact- we cant beleive it, but some how they are being followed without difficulty for a passionate creature like us.
... we could not get up in the morning early as long as we slept in our bed all comfy. when we moved to a mat on the floor that became the morning time door.
2. We had domestic violence incident from horse's side, after which we went to pyschiatrist. He told us our brain is too taxed. He gave us dopamine and other happpy hormone, he also tried to reduce Adrelanine. by those pills we had heavy sleep demand by body 14-15 hrs a day for a week. in such time our eating was fine, but our chanting & reading was heavily effected, we got back log of around 72 rounds.
To cover them up we have increased rounds to 19 for 24 days [72/3]. I dont know if this would break our commitment for chanting daily 16 rounds. If yes please advise what can be done when we are under medication or surgery.
... think you can find the same result in diet etc.that you get from the homones. but take practice. just chant as much as you can, all the time. chant during domestic violence. should stop it quickly... {:O)-
3. we are not able to chant good rounds in morning, but we can chant good rounds in afternoon. so we have the dilemma [chant rounds early] versus [chant good rounds] , what should be the priority.
... good rounds.
Services:
1. we are thinking of making ppts and offer it to you as you can use them like. some of the titles could be what is time, what is dream, etc.
2. we were thinking to prepare a small write up on your presentation on "philosophy of nature" and present to Former president of India who has worked Indian Defence Research centres. He would appreciate it but for this we need your permission.
3. we eagerly want to serve you btu we are such a quagmire that we can not commit any thing to you. But if there is some thing which is not time bound, please allow this horse to carry that.
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... contact Dr. Samaresh regularly and work with him. working with people is like learning to work with the mind that Krsna has given us. Look for the essential motivation for your PhD work or move to something else... ... adelante!!! Jaya! ... President of India is O.K. Ask Dr. S.
we are reaching death gradually and we would die one day. we hope we can make tangible progress and can atleast serve as he desires, before that. please dont hesitate to use your whip, though we know you are merciful.
aspiring to be discplined by you
Horse>>>>
PS below is pciture of monkey and horse, in feng shui - the chinese system this piece is very auspicious and useful for victory. monkey also has a bowl.
... thank you! Hari Bowl?
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡S.O.S.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HK HR
Sri Guru yo ya casi entendi que es todo un juego, (a veces me rio con Usted! perdone las pabadas que Le dije! ya lo hizo antes, perdonarme, es muy importante para mi)el tema es que me estan prendiendo fuego por todos lados! (y no se rien mucho! anciedad). al unico que tengo hoy para apagar este fuego es a Usted!!!
ASA - HpS - Jaya! Srila Prabhupada. Mukham karoti vacalam... If you get the mercy of Guru, what will you do with it? Will you do the same as Guru does and become Guru?
(como dice la cancion!) (Usted es mi Gurudeva, ahora Krsna me dejo a Su cargo no?)
ASA - HpS - We are repeatedly presenting ourselves as servants of Srila Prabhupada, he is the Acharya, Founder of Iskcon. Yes, we must learn how each person funcions as an Acharya under him.
. . .ayudeme, hago lo que me pida. Que puedo yo hacer por Su pronta recuperacion, y para dar tranquilidad a todo el mundo..??(gracias por creer que soy sincero y que no estoy listo para iniciarme!!). En verdad estoy contento (mucho!) .... . . . .
. . . Awk. Senor David your letter is too lyrical. We cannot understand it so well. Gotta Get Up Early And Get Your Rounds Done. Learn how to follow the four principles strictly ant read NOI and apply it! Jaya! King David!
Pamho.PabloParikrama
Agt Srila Prabhupada!
Agt Sri Caitanya y Sri Nityananda!
Mis reverencias Maharaja.
Hare Krsna.
Soy Bhakta Pablo del Parikrama, de España.
Primero, gracias por sus enseñanzas. Me ayudan muchisimo, y espero que se encuentre muy bien y vaya mejorando su salud.
Tengo algunas dudas Maharaja.
1)-Cuando dice que lo que mas hace falta es vivir como en Vrndavana Dham, a que se refiere exactamente? .
ASA -- AGTSP paoho... No entiendamos??
2)-Que relacion tiene con la deidad cada Ashrama Maharaja?. Segun me parece, el Sannyasi es mejor que adore a Krsna con la mente en el corazon???, entonces, que motivacion tenian grandes devotos como Sri Rupa Goswami al adorar a Krsna en la forma de la deidad??.
ASA - En Kali-yuga the Deity is the Mahamantra... and chanting more and more and more is the Temple. The Ashrama doesn't matter much.
3)-Que consejo daria a un intento de devoto como yo que no consige asociacion de devotos por mi ignorancia y que no es capaz de tener una buena relacion con la parte externa de ISKCON?. Cada vez que estudio otros senderos, estoy mas seguro que no quiero otro sendero, pero soy incapaz de encontrar la asociacion de devotos compatibles conmigo. No digo que alguien tenga la culpa.
ASA - Eso es asociacion... ! Continua de esta manera. Mejorando asociacion con exterior ISKCON. Claro, es diferente para cada uno. Visita Templos etc. para un par de dias...
4)-Si este mundo es un reflejo de el mundo espiritual, tienen el mismo ritmo pero adulterado como la sombra y la persona??
ASA - Si..
o llevan sucesos independientemente???
ASA - Huh?
Perdone por tantas preguntas.
Gracias a Krsna y a Usted que tengo este Blog!!, que pena mas grande que no pueda ahora conectarme al sublime Japa Joe, que recuerdos mas dulces.
Muchisimas gracias por todo.
A Sus pies.
Hare Krsna.
ASA - Estamos detras en todo para Radhastami pero Ella toma carga de la vida espiritual personalmente en estas dias!!!
Ok leve halito de vida(valor) de david de bs. as. a los Pies de Sri Gurudeva (mas que nunca).
Toda Gloria a los Devotos Reunidisimos!! Jaya Prabhupada!! Gurudevaaaa! Jay snif
La espectativa mundana! (la conciencia externa) Me esta haciendo caer Gurudeva!! (el "gran Diablo")
ASA - TlgaSP ...
...y la contagio!! a todo el que cruzo!! Por que??...arrastro esta neciencia(desgraciado ente!!)...... Quiero a mi mama.....quiero verLo y presentar mis postradas reverencias, y a Sus dicipulos (de lejos! a 20 metros?), y a los que Le hacen test a Usted..y a todos: Shanti, reverencias....Yo estoy errado!! (perdonen las ofensas!). Parezco no calzar en ningun rincon del Juego de la Vidaa!! (en general). Parezco la nada (sin Conciencia de Dios). Pero estoy bien, gracias!!
¡Toda Gloria a la Verdad Absoluta Personal!...Toda gloria a las personas!!!...Yo (este pinocho homerizado; este enrredo eterno), cuando no estoy envidiandolas, las admiro y soy feliz....(no mas espectativas frustradas pinochito)...La Vida Toda en Krsna!, es admirable desde aca, "afuera", sin moverme (?¿)...confio plenamente en Su conmiseracion y en la de los demas....perdon esta distancia(ofenza).
¡HARE KRSNA!
un admirador envidioso. (un poco mas humilde creo..)
pd: Sri Guru Su Mirada pesa como el Cosmos y queda aplastado el Demoño este!!! es un flash!!...Mireme!! (por favor, desde Alla, a veces...!! y deje que Los vea...siquiera en sueños? Admirar a los vivos...Gracias Señor mio!) Flash
ASA - El Upadesamrta es ensenanzas para devotos neofitos... ... . . . !