pysch as science- useful for sankhya lecture

12 years, 1 month ago by harsh_horse in Hot Topics

The idea is there that, sure, we live in this world where everything around us is perceived as physical, as material, but we are something else.

We have a spiritual element to us that makes us distinct. Now, this distinction is really relevant in the scientific context for the following reason.

Things that are physical, things that are material, we assume that the
interactions, the behaviors those things show must follow what we call natural
laws. And in fact, science is the pursuit of those natural laws.

The idea that through careful observation and systematic manipulation, we can
figure out what those laws are. Things like gravity, you know, and, and
various other laws. and that in so doing, we'll gain a really good understanding of this physical world around us.

And so, we studied Physics, we studied Chemistry, we studied Biology Astronomy, etc. all of those are studies of the physical world around us.
But, of course, if we do not perceive ourselves as physical beings, if we
perceive ourselves as spiritual beings, then what we're implying there is that
our behavior does not follow such constrained natural laws.

And if it doesn't, well then, it doesn't makes sense to study it scientifically.

So really, psychology would never be born unless we started to think of ourselves
in different ways and that process really began with Rene Descartes and here's a
story of Rene Descartes that I really like. the idea is that he was walking through a park in, in, in France, and as a typical French park, it had statues and it had
flowers.

Up ahead he saw a statue of, of Diana, goddess of the hunt, beautiful statue.
So, he started to approach to get a better look at her, but as he came closer
out from behind the bushes came Neptune, barring a trident and blocking his path.
A statue of Neptune, I should say, and that's what was, you know, really so
impressive, the statue moved as if with intention. Now, how did it move?
Well, this was the time when hydraulics was just being understood and used.
And so, literally, Rene Descartes had stepped on a pressure plate which forced
some sort of liquid through a tube and ultimately that force was used to move
the statue on some relatively, relatively frictionless set of, you know, rails or
something like that. That's how the motion actually happened.
But in Rene's mind, it was a really profound experience for the following
reason. He knew that statue was inanimate, he knew it was made of material, you know, physical material, and yet it behaved as  though it was alive.
That is, it was animate and had intentions.
It looked like the statue was trying to block his path.
So, Rene suddenly started looking at other things, like animals and humans,
and asking whether maybe their behavior was analogous to that statue.
Maybe they you really were physical beings as well and may be their behavior
did reflect something like hydro, hydraulics, some physical process that
made them look animate.
Ultimately, Rene concluded that that was the case for animals, he felt they were
fully machine-like, fully mechanical. But humans, he thought were a little
different. Humans, he thought, had a dual nature. And we now call this notion, Cartesian Dualism.
So, he thought, yes, humans are partly machine.

                HpS - AGTSP   paoho.   We had to do some editing to make the article inteligible  and even still there is re-redundancy of certain words.  Why is that???  Yet, is very interesting.  Thank you, very interesting!   We will look for Descartes biography on Britannica.  More!

Hare Krsna Guru Dev

12 years, 1 month ago by Gopal C Biswas in Other

Hare Krsna Respected Guru Maharaj,
    Please accept my humble obeisances at your lotus feet.

HpS - ASA -   AGTSP.  paoho.  We don't have lotus feet yet.


    All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
    All glories to Guru parampara.

    Guru Dev, How close you are to Lord (Kisor & Kisori). It shows in your words.It gives us beautiful feeling about you, that, how much love you have for Kisor & Kisori.

    How can, we have that kind of love for Kisor & Kisori.

your fallen servant,
Girivaradhari-Gopal Das

              HpS -  Oooof!    When They inspire us we become enlivened. Usually we don't give full respect to There mercy.  We are trying.  Maybe we are on the level of Nistha...

LATIN AMERICA TOUR-THEME

12 years, 2 months ago by hps in Calendar Development

      Si no habla-bla Ingles traduzca lo en: http://translate.google.com/

AGTSP!

paoho

With the co-operation of Brother Ass, Asta-sakhi Devi Dasi, Aristasena Das, Abhirama Thakura, Miguel Polo, Rodrigo and Arjuna, Rati-manjari and Ambarisa Das et al, et al (We erased the names of three of the most important Dudes from the list), let us suggest the following Theme for the Proposed, "NIOS  --  Latin American   (October to December Tour)":

Cultivation of the Human Spirit
NATURE, ETHICS AND ECSTACY
     Light of the Bhagavata
         1. Sankhya
         2. The Song of Songs and Srila Rupa Goswami

What can you or other scholars and poets contribute?

Preaching Is The essence

12 years, 2 months ago by bhaktanicasio in Personal Sadhana Reports

Haré Krisna, Pamho, agtSP, esteemed gurudeva, hére we are in usa, vacations with family 16 rondas ok, Krisna is so mercyful upon us.

This Ass phylosophy is coming to an end for us, at least is what we Desire.

what is The Right attitude?

KC is The only real thing.   Where is god in Disney world?    SP Struggled so much, You are doing The same.   SaDhus.   I want to Join.      The suicidal crue no moré soul cáncer. I feel ashamed. please Help me.

I know preaching gives life. With all respects, at your Lotus feet, bhakta Nicasio.

         HpS - Jaya!       We are so happy to hear from you.           Honestly if we are little sincere we can adjust all these things: 4-principles, 16-rounds, little service of Krsna's Diety, family responsibilities and and and   infecting the whole world with and addiction to hear newer and newer Krsna Katha.     Where in USA have you gone?     Micky Mouse in Disney land looks very much like Lord Jagannatha!   Other than that it is the most air-headed plastic place on earth. Disney corporation bought Ken and Barbi to perform on their big stage:

   Barbie:  Oooo!    Aaaah!   Are we having fun yet, Ken?

   Ken:  Oooo!   Yes, yes, Barbie, fun, fun!            News of your observations of USA culture!!

hare krsna

12 years, 2 months ago by miguel valenzuela in Personal Sadhana Reports

reciva mis mas respetuosas reverencias

todos las glorias a sirla prahupad

hare krisna maharaj creo que no como utilizar muy bien esto estoy cantando las 16 rondas y en ocaciones canto algunas mas asi como anidduha me presto el libro el nectar de la isntruccion por que yo solo tenia el seminario en video que usted hizo en su visita a mexico, voy a entrar a hacer una obra de teatro en ratra yatra  aqui en guadalajara y vamos a ir algunos devotos al de mexico

                 HpS - ASA - TlgaSP!   Gracias su carta.... Cuando es Rathyatra en Guad. y que es el teatro???

Priya Sakhi Devi Dasi, Santiago, Chile 2013

12 years, 2 months ago by sarahii in Personal Sadhana Reports

Hare Krishna Guru Maharaja.

Por favor acepte mis respetuosas reverencias.

Todas las glorias sean para Srila Prabhupada!

Mi reporte es el siguiente.

Al fin puedo cantar mis 16 rondas diarias.

Es dificil el papel de madre o nodriza!. Siempre recuerdo a Ud. diciendo:"Puede casar, pero un hijo y no más!!!"

              HpS - ASA - TlgaSP.    !    We said that???  Nos dijo eso???  Increible.  Pero es linea de Devahuti. Uno hijo pero 6- hermosas hijas.

Estoy ayudando como co-facilitadora en curso Bhakti Sastri, una vez por mes, pero mi servicio de tiempo completo es de madre y esposa.

Le adjunto otra foto del cambio de cuerpo de Sukadeva....

Esperando que Su salud esté bien.

Quedo en calidad de una futura discipula bien disciplinada!

Quien lo aprecia y recuerda siempre.

Priya Sakhi Devi Dasi

                 HpS - ASA   -  Bien on desoranizado es bueno oir de Vd.  Claro, cuando duerme su bebe es momento super para Japa!              TODO mejorar mas que cantamos nuestras 16-rondas entusiastas.             Krsna mismo ayudar nosotros cumplir nuestra contrato!   Tab pequeno su bebe!!!